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Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Wolf » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:02 am

I have decided to maintain 100% creative control over my novel (Innocence Lost, renamed to 'A Violent World')

I would appreciate any advice and opinions on the name change and which cover art you guys prefer...
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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Dion » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:11 am

Hey Wolf

The 4th or 5th one down I like the best not a fan of that fluorescent red in the others, just my opinion.

Good luck with it.
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Unread post by Wolf » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:22 am

Thanks Dion, I agree with those sentiments... currently leaning towards those two myself, I'm unsure of the gold font...
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Unread post by Gavin » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:29 pm

Go with the gold font.

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Unread post by Tuckeroo » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:17 pm

Hi Wolf, a great looking Sasquatch cover you’ve got there, I wondered
why you didn’t make the canines a bit longer, the top lip has the right shape.
Without canines, if I understand your intention, makes it appear less
simian, less carnivore and more human like, does that make sense ?

I like number 4. 5’s ok but maybe a bit dark.
To my eye no.4, but make the WRW gold and reduce the font by 1.
The gold will still make it standout rather than its size and it will
contrast well with the red sasquatch sagas at the top……looks good.

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Unread post by Simon M » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:19 pm

Fourth one down from the top is my favourite.

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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Wolf » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:19 pm

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

I tried with longer canines but it simply looked less realistic somehow, so I settled for odd sized ones, which made it more lifelike... and yes, more human-like. I will try version 4 with gold font for the author name. (cheers)
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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Shazzoir » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:26 am

I like the last two - the last one most. :)
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Unread post by Bluedog » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:44 am

The last one, I think it's the best.

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Unread post by Wolf » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:10 am

Here is version 4 with Tuckeroo's suggestions...

(I added a large white border because most sites it will appear on have white backgrounds)
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Unread post by Tuckeroo » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:24 am

Looks good Wolf, I like that bit of yellow with the red.

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Unread post by yowiedan » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:50 pm

The One with the Yellow Writing. (rad)

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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Shazzoir » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:40 am

Yep - the gold font really works, rather than more white.
Top shelf. :)

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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by iwanttobelieve » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:07 pm

Go the gold (5th down).

Hard to comment on the title without an understanding of the premise.

Maybe supply a brief synopsis?

Or just get rid of the "A" and go with Violent World.

Savage World maybe?

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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by gregvalentine » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:13 pm

Wolf wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:22 am
Thanks Dion, I agree with those sentiments... currently leaning towards those two myself, I'm unsure of the gold font...
Yeah 4 or 5, and definitely title rather than author at the top.
Do you have your mother-in-law's permission to use her image, though?

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Unread post by Wolf » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:54 pm

gregvalentine wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:13 pm
Wolf wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:22 am
Thanks Dion, I agree with those sentiments... currently leaning towards those two myself, I'm unsure of the gold font...
Yeah 4 or 5, and definitely title rather than author at the top.
Do you have your mother-in-law's permission to use her image, though?
How the hell did you know that's how I did it?

This is likely the final version...
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And the back cover (just lacking some reviews at the bottom... Simon, YowieBait, feel like writing some for me as you guys have both read it?)

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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Yowie bait » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:02 pm

Sure Wolf ill try. Its a great novel. The likely final version looks excellent. Front cover is very scary and realistic!
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Unread post by Simon M » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:16 pm

What about...

"An intriguing story, written in a unique voice, that portrays a complex world; one that's completely unlike our own, but instantly recognisable"

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Unread post by Wolf » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:41 am

That sounds good, thanks Simon. (cheers)
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Re: Advice/Opinions please?

Unread post by Shazzoir » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:41 pm

Can I ask why the lower case 'i' in 'Violent', when every other letter is a capital? Sorry, but this is a pet hate of mine, I see it in business names along with lower case 'e's from time to time, and I detest it. It's not cute, or memorable, just annoying. I'm going to assume it's accidental, but please, if not, reconsider? Other than that, it looks fine. :)

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Unread post by Tuckeroo » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:21 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:41 pm
Can I ask why the lower case 'i' in 'Violent', when every other letter is a capital? Sorry, but this is a pet hate of mine, I see it in business names along with lower case 'e's from time to time, and I detest it. It's not cute, or memorable, just annoying. I'm going to assume it's accidental, but please, if not, reconsider? Other than that, it looks fine. :)

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Hi Shazzoir. I didn’t notice that i until you pointed it out.
Such is my perceived eagle eye for detail.
You must get annoyed at the i tourist signs, or is that a different context.

Good on you for defending the caps, there’s a few things that annoy me as well.
i is a good signifier, works well in this three word heading. Seen as an individual
against the world……if I had noticed. Looks like art to me.

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:01 pm

Haha, Tuckeroo, I DETEST some of those roadside signs, OMG.

There's one on the Warrego Highway as you head from Bris to Toowoomba, that is the property of a family that I assume is named Berger. They have a cafe or petrol station that sells hot food presumably (I've never turned off to find out), but the irritant that is their home-made advertising signage, painted on blackboard reads BERGERS ARE US which is cringeworthy enough with the fool Americanised R US inclusion, but made even worse with the addition of TASTY BERGERS or whatever it is that is the follow-up on the second sign.

I'm afraid my tendencies all turn to the grammar nazi type, so no noble intent here, but I'm a writer too, and while mistakes are just that, mistakes, I can't bear intentional mis-spelling and crappy grammar, particularly from that subset of the advertising population who love the twee effect they think it has.
(pure_evil)

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Unread post by Tuckeroo » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:47 pm

So I guess you won’t be buying any Weet-Bix, Kleenex tissues or Vegemite from Bi-Lo.

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:19 am

(lol) (lol) (lol)
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Unread post by gregvalentine » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:41 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:01 pm
Haha, Tuckeroo, I DETEST some of those roadside signs, OMG.

There's one on the Warrego Highway as you head from Bris to Toowoomba, that is the property of a family that I assume is named Berger. They have a cafe or petrol station that sells hot food presumably (I've never turned off to find out), but the irritant that is their home-made advertising signage, painted on blackboard reads BERGERS ARE US which is cringeworthy enough with the fool Americanised R US inclusion, but made even worse with the addition of TASTY BERGERS or whatever it is that is the follow-up on the second sign.

I'm afraid my tendencies all turn to the grammar nazi type, so no noble intent here, but I'm a writer too, and while mistakes are just that, mistakes, I can't bear intentional mis-spelling and crappy grammar, particularly from that subset of the advertising population who love the twee effect they think it has.
(pure_evil)

Shazz
It's only a family's roadside advertising, for goodness sake, meant to be brief and humourous to catch the eye of potential customers. I edit for a walking club journal and crack down on lousy grammar, punctuation etc., but under these circumstances you're coming over as being altogether too precious . . .

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Shazz wrote:
I'm afraid my tendencies all turn to the grammar nazi type, so no noble intent here, but I'm a writer too, and while mistakes are just that, mistakes, I can't bear intentional mis-spelling and crappy grammar, particularly from that subset of the advertising population who love the twee effect they think it has.
Have to agree with Greg V’s response. Was exactly what I was thinking. It’s simply called ‘creative licence’ when writing advertising copy. If it can draw attention to the cause and get the cash registers ringing, then it can justify any play on words.

How do I know this? Well, since we are detailing our writing credentials, I have written many 1000’s of successful TV commercials and lots of corporate documentaries. Guess what Shazz… you remembered the product and were talking about it here. That's generally the aim. :D

And just for the record Wolf, I like your ‘likely final version’ and also Simon’s words for the completion of the back cover synopsis. The lower case 'i' in the title has me a little conflicted, although it does make the word stand out. Perhaps it’s just a font style?

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:20 pm

Maybe so, but I can't stand the mangling of the English language, that's my choice, and if others don't share it, that's fine by me. All power to you, folks.
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Unread post by gregvalentine » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:40 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Maybe so, but I can't stand the mangling of the English language, that's my choice, and if others don't share it, that's fine by me. All power to you, folks.
So, your basically sayin': "uP with this i shall not pUt!"?

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Unread post by Dion » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:54 pm

gregvalentine wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:40 pm
Shazzoir wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Maybe so, but I can't stand the mangling of the English language, that's my choice, and if others don't share it, that's fine by me. All power to you, folks.
So, your basically sayin': "uP with this i shall not pUt!"?
A bit like.............

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:52 pm

Hahahahaha! Nice Greg :D you too, Dion, LOL
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