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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by bassplyr » Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am

hi Dion,

I may start up a new thread regarding it. describing it in detail with location etc. but below is a short account of what happened along with a brief comment about if I've heard a similar recording before.

I did hear a supposed sasquatch call from a video that sounded very much like it and it was also in central California. I've tried searching for it but haven't been able to find it. the footage it was on had a couple of guys standing around in mid day or afternoon in some forest while a repetitive roar is heard in the distance.

in my instance it sounded very much like a gorilla roar but also insistant and repetative like when a chimp works its self up going "hoo! Hoo! HOo!! HOOO!!!!" getting progressively louder by the third and fourth syllable. but this was bassier, came from an obviously much larger or immense animal and had a growl or a "nghaaa!!" type agitated sound to it. its hard to describe but it repeated in a rythem similar to a woodcutter steadily working his saw back and forth through wood. would go for about 6 or so seconds then stop. im afraid I'm embarrassing myself with my attempt at describing it but it was definitly primate and not a elk or bear, the only other animals in the area that could make calls with that much air displacement.

it started a half hour after we got to the pond and were setting up. the calls at about a distance of a kilometer echoing off the tall granite peaks that formed the alpine valley this trout pond was in. then again fifteen minutes later about half a kilometer away working its way closer and getting louder. at thhgggat point we went from "what was that?!?" and curiosity to concern and anxiety. whatever it was was heading our way and making it known that it was. it sounded angry. eventually it sounded off again, but very close from within the shadows of the tree line across the pond maybe 75 yards away where the creek fed into the pond. we grabbed our stuff in semi panic and bolted back to the truck. we heard it make its call one last time halfway down the trail to our truck as if it was escorting us out. but whatever it was definitly was a bend or two back behind us on the trail in casual persuit.

the location is in the southern sierras at high altitude (9,000 foot) which was unusual for reports. also the vegetation was sparse following mostly the creek like a ribbon as it linked a series of ponds sorta laid out like a string of pearls. the rest of the area offered no concealment as it was barren with shards or crumbled granite boulders, fallen from the peak walls, strewn about the valley. it was March and early spring, frosts were gone. we figured it was using this alpine valley with its troop to migrate from one state park Kings Canyon to the Seqouia state park on the opposite side. the pond being the only source of food during that part of the journey. like i said we didnt see it, but we are pretty sure what we heard was one of them.

sorry for the slight thread derailing, superfluously long post and spotty grammar. but I sympathize for anyone who has had a disconcerting experience with yowie or sasquatch. these days I don't live in California anymore having just recently moved. I spend half the year in south Carolina and the other half with my fiance in the south Burnett region of Queensland. maybe one day I'll hear or see sign of yowie in qld. under better circumstances I wouldn't be opposed to it.

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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by Dion » Thu May 31, 2018 10:19 am

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hi Dion,

I may start up a new thread regarding it. describing it in detail with location etc. but below is a short account of what happened along with a brief comment about if I've heard a similar recording before.

I did hear a supposed sasquatch call from a video that sounded very much like it and it was also in central California. I've tried searching for it but haven't been able to find it. the footage it was on had a couple of guys standing around in mid day or afternoon in some forest while a repetitive roar is heard in the distance.

in my instance it sounded very much like a gorilla roar but also insistant and repetative like when a chimp works its self up going "hoo! Hoo! HOo!! HOOO!!!!" getting progressively louder by the third and fourth syllable. but this was bassier, came from an obviously much larger or immense animal and had a growl or a "nghaaa!!" type agitated sound to it. its hard to describe but it repeated in a rythem similar to a woodcutter steadily working his saw back and forth through wood. would go for about 6 or so seconds then stop. im afraid I'm embarrassing myself with my attempt at describing it but it was definitly primate and not a elk or bear, the only other animals in the area that could make calls with that much air displacement.

it started a half hour after we got to the pond and were setting up. the calls at about a distance of a kilometer echoing off the tall granite peaks that formed the alpine valley this trout pond was in. then again fifteen minutes later about half a kilometer away working its way closer and getting louder. at thhgggat point we went from "what was that?!?" and curiosity to concern and anxiety. whatever it was was heading our way and making it known that it was. it sounded angry. eventually it sounded off again, but very close from within the shadows of the tree line across the pond maybe 75 yards away where the creek fed into the pond. we grabbed our stuff in semi panic and bolted back to the truck. we heard it make its call one last time halfway down the trail to our truck as if it was escorting us out. but whatever it was definitly was a bend or two back behind us on the trail in casual persuit.

the location is in the southern sierras at high altitude (9,000 foot) which was unusual for reports. also the vegetation was sparse following mostly the creek like a ribbon as it linked a series of ponds sorta laid out like a string of pearls. the rest of the area offered no concealment as it was barren with shards or crumbled granite boulders, fallen from the peak walls, strewn about the valley. it was March and early spring, frosts were gone. we figured it was using this alpine valley with its troop to migrate from one state park Kings Canyon to the Seqouia state park on the opposite side. the pond being the only source of food during that part of the journey. like i said we didnt see it, but we are pretty sure what we heard was one of them.

sorry for the slight thread derailing, superfluously long post and spotty grammar. but I sympathize for anyone who has had a disconcerting experience with yowie or sasquatch. these days I don't live in California anymore having just recently moved. I spend half the year in south Carolina and the other half with my fiance in the south Burnett region of Queensland. maybe one day I'll hear or see sign of yowie in qld. under better circumstances I wouldn't be opposed to it.
HI there bassplyr

Thanks for such a detailed report, I can only imagine the frightened state you must have been in once it got reasonably close.

Here is a link from the BFRO site its very very similar howl to what me and my old man heard in the Blue Mountains but of course on the other side of the world. It may be similar to what you heard?

https://www.bfro.net/AVEVID/MJM/Howl.mp3

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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by bassplyr » Thu May 31, 2018 10:50 am

it was frightening. and my friend and I were regulars with the outdoors. we never heard anything like it and it was menacing sounding.

the link you supplied doesn't sound like what I hward. however i think i just found the video I was talking about.



it sounded exactly like this but instead of the howls/screams being so long it was like four of them in the space of one of these howls and it made the same repetative calls over and over like in the video.

the volume you hear the screams were about the same volume as when it was about halfway to us or a half kilometer away. echoed just like thhgggat too if not more so. when it reached the pond and made the same calls it jolted ne with its loudness and the spike of fear that erupted in me because of it.

when it did it the last time following us on the trail the feeling was more like "please no. I just want you to leave me alone and let me escape." it made me think this might be it. there was a sense of doom, hopelessness and dread.

it was very effective in driving us off its claimed area. and we did not want to see it or find out what it was.

we drove down that mountain peak so determinedly that my friend forgot to put the truck in lower hear, rode the breaks the entire time without realising it. we had to pull over for 45 minutes at about 4000 pot elevation to let the breaks cool as they were smoldering, visibly glowing a little bit and we had little stopping power. we were shooken up and spent the rest of our fishing weekend down by Owens lake off the 395 highway fishing next to a dozen other people with no intention of going back up that mountain. didn't return till the following year. the weird thing is this area and the nearby campground doesnt have any sasquatch reports that i know of. hence why we think this sasquatch and or troop were passing through.

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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by bassplyr » Thu May 31, 2018 10:52 am

also, any way I can edit my posts to clean up the horrible autocorrect errors spelling wise? if not ill be more careful in future postings.

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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by Dion » Thu May 31, 2018 11:12 am

bassplyr wrote:
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it sounded exactly like this but instead of the howls/screams being so long it was like four of them in the space of one of these howls and it made the same repetative calls over and over like in the video.
Ahh Yes I remember watching that video quite some time ago, years ago in fact, I agree that those howls in the video do have a lot more of a violent/scream type tone to them and would be a lot more frightening than the link I gave of the howl.

In regards to editing you can edit for a short amount of time before you can no longer, if you log off that post is there for good, its the little pencil symbol next to the quote button. We had to have a time limit on the edit button because we had a few members that came back months or years later and deleted every post they had ever made which made that threads a little hard to follow and read.

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by adventurer » Thu May 31, 2018 11:36 am

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Have you guys been back to that area?
Hi, i cancelled as we had 3 days of rain coming, but at last minutes notice we went out anyway for a look, not expecting anything at all because of the rain. Past visits in the rain has proven they have never been about.
Good to go have a look though, heaps of poteroos and only 2 very small rock stacks. Creeks were flowing, a mess with the rain and found no footprints. We will wait for it to dry up out there and head back out so will keep it posted. Dee

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Thu May 31, 2018 4:33 pm

Thanks Dee, I guess better luck next time with drier weather might give you some contact.

Bassplr, thank you also for your detailed posts, and you've described some features of Yowie contact quite accurately with your story, by the way. The 'nameless dread' and feelings of 'I gotta get out of here NOW!' are things others have reported many a time, and that goes partway to explaining my beliefs the Hairy Folk are all from a similar tribe/species, no matter which continent they are on, and are possibly immeasurably old.

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Unread post by bassplyr » Thu May 31, 2018 5:11 pm

hi shazz.

the sheer volume and recognizable hostility to its howl/scream would have made just about anybody panic. universally around the world they're very good at inducing fear. makes you wonder if it's instinctively impressed upon us humans as if our ancestors had a long adversarial relationship with these creatures in the long past.

one thing is i dont believe they're always hostile and can run the range of emotions and behaviours. from curious, communicative to agitated and occasionally hostile. but that they almost always err on the side of cautious.

I'm not convinced this thing was intending to attack me and my friend. in hind sight I think it was trying to just intimidate us away from its claimed pond to protect a temporary food source. like a bluff in the form of a intense vocal display. and it worked.

I think it's more or less the same animal across the globe. with subspecies depending on the geographic location. for instance in the USA there seem to be two distinct types (some say 4) the northern mountain and forest sasquatch that gets colossal but is of more temperate disposition and the southern lowland bush and thicket versions which are smaller and more easily agitated and aggressive. I wonder if the yowie in Australia have similar subspecies. I'm not referring to yowie vs the 3foot tall version but different type of yowie like low land vs highland. tropical forest vs subtropical or temperate. etc. if so, are there differences in mass, temperament or behaviour like the ones in north america?

my next question is how'd they get to Australia in the first place. I suppose they came across from south America but there are no real sasquatch sightings in south america. giant sloth like things but not much approximating sasquatch. so I guess they came across the Wallace line somehow.

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Unread post by Simon M » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:55 am

I agree that they've definitely crossed the Wallace line at some point in the distant past. Whether there were chains of islands they migrated across, a land bridge they walked across or something else...who knows? Maybe they're just much better swimmers than we give them credit for? :wink:

There's so much we don't know that we're in the realm of pure guesswork. All we know for sure is that they're widespread and that they must have travelled to the areas where sightings occur in the present day at some point during prehistory.

Perhaps they were once much more numerous and widespread? There's some evidence that suggests they're migratory, so perhaps it's not surprising that they exist in so many places? We have no way of knowing for sure. I think we can reasonably assume that their presence in some parts of the world predates the arrival of early humans. Again, I'm assuming/guessing, but it seems like a reasonable assumption.

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Unread post by adventurer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:33 pm

Hi, well its been a while. Finally went back out. Arrived to a exceptional dead quiet night-i mean u could literally here a pin drop. Awesome we thought. But to no avail, nothing, no stone throw at the carpark, did the rounds, bugger all, walked the creek beds-nothing.Not even a solitary rock stack. My mind went into overdrive--why-why? Its a perfect night, i looked at Ron, even he thought it was odd. The only thing i could come up with is " There Busy" but holidays were over so no campers either.Where were they, they must be somewhere, there must be people out here somewhere for them to be with?
Gave up, past has shown me if there not there, they wont come. There either there or there not. So we left, so disappointing. Does my head in.

Ron had bought out a couple of mates so we dropped in to show them the Gantry. Well well, in the distance (opposite of where we were before) we heard a bunch of girls loudly talking/ yelling ( maybe drunk) but way in the distance. BANG.

Walking to the far bush at the back of the gantry, we panicked, we ACTUALLY took 1 by surprise, well if it was one.
The thing bolted past us in such a rush, like it had been caught out. It was so loud, knocked through every tree in its path, the boys ran in ( not me, i stayed on the tree line edge), all went quiet, the bush stopped smashing. Then i heard the boys saying "There" its there, they all viewed a eye, like it turned back sideways to look at them. To bloody scarey for me thanks. But the noise of it-wow, it was definitely on its own--maybe a watcher? I asked what colour eyes, they said WHITE ! The trees were bent down at the bottom of the trunks. No smell either.
How could we have scared it, i mean they can smell, hear people a mile away.
It wasnt even quiet at the gantry, there were wallabies about too, jumping out of the bush where this thing ran from.
Whatever it was did not bolt till we were nearly on top of it, it did not run away from us but ran across ways, we were in a line next to each other so it actually bolted across past each of us, it was in the trees, we were right on the tree line. Sounded way bigger then a cow.
Encounters at the gantry are rare for us. What do you think of it. I mean i wasnt in the bush, maybe ron could elaborate?
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Unread post by ronstar2 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:43 pm

Yes Dee it certainly was very annoyed, I think we disturbed it from hunting maybe, it was just smashing through the bush.
We need to get back out there and survey the damage. Also the eye shine was quite large it reminded me of the one we saw at Bellthorpe.

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Unread post by Wolf » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:37 pm

Please go back and take pictures of the tree damage. I for one would love to see it.
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Unread post by Yowie bait » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:35 am

Hi Dee and Ron . That does sound like them. I think the charging through the forest thing is part of the shock and awe display to scare you off or distract. It really does sound like a bull charging through the bush doesnt it?!. How something can stomp like that while crashing through the bush is amazing. No one in their right mind( except yowie hunters of course!) Would follow that!

Shame you didnt get a good look to gauge size or if it was on two or four legs. Photos of this destruction would be cool to see! (thumb)
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Unread post by ripperton » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:03 am

I think he saw or heard you from a ways off but deployed his stand still tactics and took a gamble that you would walk past him and not see him at all, but as it turns out you walked directly towards him and he had to just do a runner at the last second. He would have been pissed off that his cover was blown.

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Unread post by inthedark » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:20 pm

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I'm sure the men in this video were surprised (and perhaps terrified) by that sound, but it's either coyote or fox. Very clear 'wild dog' canine tones, pattern, and volume.

Anyone familiar with wild canine behavior/vocalisations would recognise it instantly. I guess these guys aren't familiar.

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Unread post by inthedark » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:29 pm

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Here is a link from the BFRO site its very very similar howl to what me and my old man heard in the Blue Mountains but of course on the other side of the world. It may be similar to what you heard?

https://www.bfro.net/AVEVID/MJM/Howl.mp3

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I have a friend who owns a large male Alaskan Malamute .. who sounds exactly like that when he howls. And he howls a LOT (scared).

Meantime, can I ask where you were in the Blue Mountains when you heard this? I'm always curious about sightings/hearings from NSW, because the vast amount of trackless forest in the State seems the most likely habitat.

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Unread post by Searcher » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:51 pm

Wild dogs...? Naaaah. That was definitely Bobo! :lol:

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Yes Dee it certainly was very annoyed, I think we disturbed it from hunting maybe, it was just smashing through the bush.
We need to get back out there and survey the damage. Also the eye shine was quite large it reminded me of the one we saw at Bellthorpe.
Agreed Ron, the eyes were quite large and intensely bright but the thing that got me was with our 3 or 4 torches trained on it there was still no silhouette or any other definition just a bright white eye staring us down. The ground did slope down away from us gently and it was no more than 15-20m from us. The crashing was violent and was far more than I could have hoped for on my second night investigation ever.
I only saw both eyes at as it moved away to the right and lower into more dense foliage. It was like it’s head was angled to us trying to not have both eyes affected by our torch light?

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Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:29 pm
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Thu May 31, 2018 10:19 am

Here is a link from the BFRO site its very very similar howl to what me and my old man heard in the Blue Mountains but of course on the other side of the world. It may be similar to what you heard?

https://www.bfro.net/AVEVID/MJM/Howl.mp3

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I have a friend who owns a large male Alaskan Malamute .. who sounds exactly like that when he howls. And he howls a LOT (scared).

Meantime, can I ask where you were in the Blue Mountains when you heard this? I'm always curious about sightings/hearings from NSW, because the vast amount of trackless forest in the State seems the most likely habitat.
Hey inthedark

We were at Evans Lookout in Blackheath the sound of the howl was coming from in the valley below but at some distance away, towards roughly the East to North East.

It was also getting quite late in the afternoon and had just started to rain, it was loud considering the noise of rain and also the distance the howl travelled from, everyone had left the lookout/carpark except me and my old man.

We didnt speak of it at the time it was only after and later on that day I asked my old man about it and he said he heard it too.
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Hey inthedark

We were at Evans Lookout in Blackheath the sound of the howl was coming from in the valley below but at some distance away, towards roughly the East to North East.

It was also getting quite late in the afternoon and had just started to rain, it was loud considering the noise of rain and also the distance the howl travelled from, everyone had left the lookout/carpark except me and my old man.

We didnt speak of it at the time it was only after and later on that day I asked my old man about it and he said he heard it too.
Very interesting! Well, definitely no Alaskan Malamutes out there! Could be dingo, but sounds too bass and low for such a small dog. We hear dingo sometimes here where we live, and their range is higher up - vocally speaking.
Incidentally, some of those deep valleys north of the highway - which run up into Wollemi country, can be basically inaccessible to humans. Surrounded by escarpments, and no way in short of a long rope. I'm sure you know all of this, but whenever I suffer the usual doubts ... I'm reminded of the aforementioned Wollemi Pine. Living in secrecy for millions of years, so close to us.

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Very interesting! Well, definitely no Alaskan Malamutes out there! Could be dingo, but sounds too bass and low for such a small dog. We hear dingo sometimes here where we live, and their range is higher up - vocally speaking.
Incidentally, some of those deep valleys north of the highway - which run up into Wollemi country, can be basically inaccessible to humans. Surrounded by escarpments, and no way in short of a long rope. I'm sure you know all of this, but whenever I suffer the usual doubts ... I'm reminded of the aforementioned Wollemi Pine. Living in secrecy for millions of years, so close to us.
I didnt get the sense that it was dog, like I say where the Howl came from its a fair distance away and it was loud, besides I had thought about it since and if it was dog most likely they would of howled in a pack which didnt happen. It was just one solitary long drawn out howl.

On a side note the howl came from (to my ears anyway) the bottom of one of the escarpments where I dare say many outcrops and possible caves would be found.
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Very interesting! Well, definitely no Alaskan Malamutes out there! Could be dingo, but sounds too bass and low for such a small dog. We hear dingo sometimes here where we live, and their range is higher up - vocally speaking.
Incidentally, some of those deep valleys north of the highway - which run up into Wollemi country, can be basically inaccessible to humans. Surrounded by escarpments, and no way in short of a long rope. I'm sure you know all of this, but whenever I suffer the usual doubts ... I'm reminded of the aforementioned Wollemi Pine. Living in secrecy for millions of years, so close to us.
I didnt get the sense that it was dog, like I say where the Howl came from its a fair distance away and it was loud, besides I had thought about it since and if it was dog most likely they would of howled in a pack which didnt happen. It was just one solitary long drawn out howl.

On a side note the howl came from (to my ears anyway) the bottom of one of the escarpments where I dare say many outcrops and possible caves would be found.
Hi Dion. How long do you think the howl went for?
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Hi Dion. How long do you think the howl went for?
Hey Yowie bait

I honestly cant remember as it goes back probably 10 years now but it was very similar the the BFRO howl provided in the link a few posts above, long and drawn out.
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Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:09 pm
Hi Dion. How long do you think the howl went for?
Hey Yowie bait

I honestly cant remember as it goes back probably 10 years now but it was very similar the the BFRO howl provided in the link a few posts above, long and drawn out.
Yes that audio you linked is very creepy! Sounds powerful too.
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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by inthedark » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:17 pm

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I didnt get the sense that it was dog, like I say where the Howl came from its a fair distance away and it was loud, besides I had thought about it since and if it was dog most likely they would of howled in a pack which didnt happen. It was just one solitary long drawn out howl.

On a side note the howl came from (to my ears anyway) the bottom of one of the escarpments where I dare say many outcrops and possible caves would be found.
Too low for dingo, I think. And unlikely to be a random stray Arctic breed down there - the only dogs of sufficient inclination and size to produce a low howl. Definitely not Emu grunting, either. Quite the mystery! Have you since had the sound checked by a National Park ranger? The similar sound, that is? Those guys (and girls) are pretty savvy when it comes the range of animal sounds in their given area of work.

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Re: Went bushwalking--never again--whats out there?

Unread post by Dion » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:02 pm

inthedark wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:17 pm
.....Have you since had the sound checked by a National Park ranger? The similar sound, that is? Those guys (and girls) are pretty savvy when it comes the range of animal sounds in their given area of work.
Hey inthedark

No I have not, the similar sound that I posted comes from the BFRO an American Bigfoot site and was recorded in 1994 in Columbiana County, Ohio, near the Ohio River. Although the sounds are similar almost identical in fact I dont think I would get much of a response, other than we have no known animals that make that sound other than it was most probably dog.... as an answer.

I am sure the 1994 Ohio Howl would have been put through the hoops in the states by certain industries and peers, but I cant find much info on it online thats been scientifically analysed.
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