A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Black » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:33 am

Paul, are you working with Rusty on this production? :wink:

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:40 am

Dion wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am
Paul a few more questions regarding you video below, why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.

Tell me what sort of Yowie is going to be standing there right in front of you like a branch [cough] just so you can film it in broad daylight? None!

Please explain?



Explanation of images:


1.jpg

2.jpg
Witch hunting Dion?
Here is the full time stamped breakdown of when and what is seen.

Time stamp 00:50
1) Screen capture from footage (obtained from the for this reply) No enhancements.
Time stamp 01:13
2) Still frame ( a screen capture from footage as above) No enhancements.
Time stamp 01:30
3) Still frame cropped and enlarged
Time stamp 01:43
4) Cropped, with two enhanced layers. Histogram adjustment layer
and a color seperation layer. As noted on the video.
Time stamp 01:51
5) Enlargement of (4)
Time stamp 01:59
6) Cropped enlargement of (4)

And no branches were harmed during the filming of this video (pun)

I don't follow your annotations concerning the branch on the right? That's just a tree knot or an old snap point that has barked over....nothing to do with me.

If you are insinuating that I somehow altered the footage? I have no how to do that beyond contrast adjustments and zooming.
Images I can and do adjust however I list the changes in the videos.

Anyway here are the images from the video numbered to match the text.
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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:48 am

Witch hunting season!

Duck hunting season!

Wabbit hunting season!

Joking...

Cheers

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:52 am

What Id like to know is, what is that object hanging off the branch higher up on the right?
Looks like a skull? Although its probably pareidolia.

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Dion » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:01 am

Again
Dion wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am
..... why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.
Images 1,2,3 are pictures of branches why have you highlighted part of one of the branches in pictures 4,5,6?
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

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Dion wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:01 am
Again
Dion wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am
..... why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.
Images 1,2,3 are pictures of branches why have you highlighted part of one of the branches in pictures 4,5,6?
Q) "In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the
tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree.

A) Mate paint dot net is an IMAGE program it is incompatible with video footage (you might mean Photoshop which I've never used
and don't have.

Q) "You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.
A) Yes I have....the enhancements ! I stated clearly that they are enhancement, I then list the individual techniques used

Q) "...why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?"
A) Did you actually watch the video? Its called "Tree damage in the Thicket at Chuwar"
I will state here that I believe the thing in the tree is possibly a Yowie. However I never state that in the video...anywhere. And
I did that specifically because of advice from this forum concerning making overstated claims.
Also because Youtube have strict rules about click baiting in order to increase traffic for financial gain.
(My video's are non profit anyway)


A) " Why are you completely incorrect about Paint dot net's function and use? Might I suggest that you have not researched the
IMAGE editing software that you accuse me of using on video footage? Its a free open source application with basic function
much like the Paint program that comes with most Windows versions, but using it is much less hassle than Paint.
If you can get it to work on video files...I will eat a turd.
Ill even supply a link to it for you mate
https://www.getpaint.net/download.html

Dion
I just posted every static image used including the images that I stated were enhanced.
I also added a time stamped screen capture taken today to be used as a control sample.

Beyond that....?

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:15 pm

paulmcleod67 wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:09 am
PHYSICAL REMAINS, OF THE "YOWIE"
HAVE WE OVERLOOKED PLACES OF BURIAL?
BACKGROUND
The prehistory of Australia is the period between the first human habitation of the Australian continent and the colonization of Australia in 1788 which marks the start of consistent documentation of Australia. This period is estimated to have lasted between 40,000 and 60,000 years. This era is referred as prehistory rather than history because there was no consistent written documentation of human events before 1788.

CLUES IN ORAL TRADITION

YOWIES ARE TRADITIONALY ABORIGINAL GHOSTS.

When a man died his yowie or soul (as distinguished from the dowie or dream spirit, which wandered far afield while the owner slept) haunted the place where he died or was buried. A camp was always immediately shifted after a death, for the dead mans ghost was greatly feared and might work harm on the tribe.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic.) Sat 17 Jan 1931

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

THE DOOLIGAHS

One of the Dooligahs watched the children playing, and as he watched his stomach began to rumble, and his mouth began to water. He made a sign of silence to his companions, and soundlessly crept down to where some children were hiding from their friends. The Dooligah grabbed the children, burying their faces in his long hair so that their screams could not be heard, and ran to his cave where he promptly ate the fattest one, and imprisoned the other two so he could fatten them up for later.
Now, in those days, all Kurrajong trees were hollow, and even during the most severedrought, the Kurrajong always bore plenty of seed high in its branches, and the roots always contained plenty of water. The Kuritjahs met with the Dooligahs and told them of the wonderful Kurrajong tree which provided both food and shelter. The Dooligahs followed the little Kuritjahs to the Kurrajongs, where they greedily ate their fill, and drank the water from the roots and fell asleep deep in the hollow of the trunks.

While the Dooligahs slept the little Kuritjahs sealed up the trunks of the trees, leaving only a narrow crack for the Dooligahs to breathe. Their brothers were now safe, they could have all the food and water they would need, and war would be averted. But the Kuritjahs were still worried. What would happen if a strong wind came and blew the trees down? Or if lightning struck the trees and toppled them over? Or maybe, some day, some foolish man would come along and cut the tree down. The Dooligahs would then be able to escape. And they would be very, very angry.

http://www.phansw.org.au/Rohpo/brachychiton.pdf

MYSERIOUS REMAINS FOUND ENTOOMBED IN TREE STUMPS

THURSDAY 19TH JUNE 1906
MYSTERY OF THE BUSH
BRISBANE
WM Loskow a Bundaberg farmer on Bingera estate , while clearing away a hollow tree which had fallen across the track discovered human remains under a quantity of clay in the trunk.The remains consisted of bones, the arms and legs of which had been broken suggested that the body had been mutilated and then passed into the tree through a hole cut about three feet above the ground and the clay had afterwards been through the hole on the remains in order to prevent putrification attracting attention. Apparently they had been in the tree for many years and would have remained undiscovered but that the wind on Monday blew the tree down. The police are investigating the matter.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

The Beaudesert Times Fri 7 May 1909
Human .Remains in a Hollow Stump.

ROMA.

Tuesday At the polic court , yeslerday afternoon Messrs. Saunders and Taudevin J'sP an inquiry was hold into llid discovery of human remains" near Surat. Constable M Donald stated that on April 28 in consequence of information given he and Mr Briggs of Stratton station, and a man named Brown went to a hollow stump about two miles from the head station. There they found the skill and some bones of a human being, and brought them to Romit.
Dr.Pratt who examined them, stated that they included the skull ribs, two shoulder blades, part of a leg and part of an arm. From appearances the skull was that of an adult aboriginal. The inquiry was adjourned to Surat.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser Sat 24 Nov 1866

HUMAN REMAINS FOUND IN A LOG

Information was brought to the police at Murramburrah on Thursday that the remains of a human body had been found in a tree near Spring Creek, on Galong run.
Mr. T. E. Pearce, Police Magistrate, Young, accompanied by constable Haughey, proceeded to the spot, and found it a hollow box tree, which appeared to have been blown down within the last two years, a skull, under jawbone, some arm, thigh, and other bones. In the stump of the tree more small bones were dismembered,which showed that the remains had been placed in the hollow of the tree before it had been blown down.

There were also some oyster shells, opossum and iguana bones found with the remains, which appeared to indicate that the human remains were those of an aboriginal buried according to the rites of his tribe. Dr. Temple certified that from the low narrow fore part of the skull and the thickness of the frontal bone he was of opinion that it was the skull of an aboriginal .

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

IMAGES FROM FORGOTTEN ORIGINS BY STEVEN STRONG

http://forgottenorigin.com/three-plus-o ... e-hominids
That was posted on Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:09 am

Gary Opit had the skull looked at by suitably qualified fellow and the skull are from that aspect confirmed as non human.
Then I remembered an attempted image reconstruction of the West Wyalong Yowie that I made a few years ago...

The first image is from my mapped sightings/missing/deaths, pin map.
I filtered out any sightings (with the exception of my W.W.Y) after 1931.
My original filter was going to be sightings and reports before Rex Gilroy popularized the term "Yowie" (Actually means "ghost" or troubled "spirit" reference included)

I just found it all interesting.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Dion » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:51 pm

Thank you for answering my questions.
paulmcleod67 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:42 am
A) Mate paint dot net is an IMAGE program it is incompatible with video footage (you might mean Photoshop which I've never used
and don't have.
Quite right Paul you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say, the screen capture images out of the video have been altered, enhanced, have they not, you are deliberately altering images to the point where you are leading people to believe they are seeing something in them when they are not.
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Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:42 am
A) Did you actually watch the video? Its called "Tree damage in the Thicket at Chuwar"
I will state here that I believe the thing in the tree is possibly a Yowie. However I never state that in the video...anywhere. And
I did that specifically because of advice from this forum concerning making overstated claims.
Also because Youtube have strict rules about click baiting in order to increase traffic for financial gain.
(My video's are non profit anyway)
Yep watched the video a few times now, you dont state its Yowie in the video but you do imply it is, you cant tell me you honestly believe that its a yowie.

Personally I dont know why I bother sometimes.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Yowie bait » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm

I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.
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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:38 pm

My best examples of eye shine from the past twenty months of night investigations.


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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:47 pm

Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm
I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.
I wouldn't have the first clue how to use Photoshop anyway mate. I use a small open sourced paint program called Paint dot net
no more advanced than the paint program that comes with every lap top or computer that operates on Windows.
My techniques are no more advanced than any run of the mill selfie adjustments.
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Unread post by Rastus » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:56 pm

Paul, with the above video and the images you posted from it, if that was a yowie...how the hell could you not see it at that range at the actual time? It literally looks 10 feet in front of you and the camera and in plain view and you only got a second or so of footage??

Man, I want to believe you are onto something because you do appear to put a lot of time into it and you should be commended for that at the very least, but I and many others are having a very hard time being convinced.

My advice ( not that it means anything) is to stop manipulating ,"enhancing" , drawing lines, making comparison shots with apes etc in your photographic evidence and just present the original unaltered version and people will see what they see. Being lead or coerced into seeing something in an image that may not be there is a subtle form of brainwashing that to some is not really legit way to present evidence.

On another note thanks for clarifying your stacking statment. I did not understand you meant you "stacked" the exact same image, I thought you meant stacked multiple seperate images. By the way, programs such as Lightroom, P/Shop and ACDSee Ultimate or any other pro level photoeditors will let you do all those adjustments on a single image without having to edit and stack the same image multiple times. (thumb up)

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Unread post by Rastus » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:57 pm

sorry i meant the video further up not the plain sight video. I blame my slow typing and you posting another reply before I submitted.

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Yowie bait » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:49 pm

paulmcleod67 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:47 pm
Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm
I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.
I wouldn't have the first clue how to use Photoshop anyway mate. I use a small open sourced paint program called Paint dot net
no more advanced than the paint program that comes with every lap top or computer that operates on Windows.
My techniques are no more advanced than any run of the mill selfie adjustments.
Cheers
Paul I am even less tech savvy than you but i can see what is being pointed out and have commented before on the colourful images.

I think Rastus has explained it well and offered great advice. If there ever is a decent clear pic it will be obvious to all, very raw, confrontational and real!

By the way i may not agree with you about a lot but i totally agree with your idea and others that the yowie is coming in closer to civilization.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:57 pm

Rastus wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:56 pm
Paul, with the above video and the images you posted from it, if that was a yowie...how the hell could you not see it at that range at the actual time? It literally looks 10 feet in front of you and the camera and in plain view and you only got a second or so of footage??

Man, I want to believe you are onto something because you do appear to put a lot of time into it and you should be commended for that at the very least, but I and many others are having a very hard time being convinced.

My advice ( not that it means anything) is to stop manipulating ,"enhancing" , drawing lines, making comparison shots with apes etc in your photographic evidence and just present the original unaltered version and people will see what they see. Being lead or coerced into seeing something in an image that may not be there is a subtle form of brainwashing that to some is not really legit way to present evidence.

On another note thanks for clarifying your stacking statment. I did not understand you meant you "stacked" the exact same image, I thought you meant stacked multiple seperate images. By the way, programs such as Lightroom, P/Shop and ACDSee Ultimate or any other pro level photoeditors will let you do all those adjustments on a single image without having to edit and stack the same image multiple times. (thumb up)
NASA ON IMAGE ENHANCEMENT, WHY ITS DONE AND WHAT SOFTWARE THEY USE

https://spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff2002/ch_6.html

"With the help of new image enhancement technology, the casual photographer can now produce better quality pictures without upgrading to expensive camera equipment. Retinex Imaging Processing, which won NASA’s Space Act Award as one of the Agency’s top inventions for 1999, is commer-cially available through TruView Imaging Company of Hampton, Virginia. With this technology, amateur photographers use their personal computers to improve the brightness, scene contrast, detail, and overall sharpness of images with increased ease. The process was originally developed for remote sensing of the Earth by researchers at NASA’s Langley Research Center and Science and Technology Corporation (STC).

"...The method, called Multi-scale Retinex with Color Restoration, was developed from Edwin Land’s Retinex (retina + cortex) theory of human color vision. An outgrowth of scientific research and its application to NASA’s remote sensing mission, the method automatically enhances a digital image in terms of dynamic range compression, color independence from the spectral distribution of the scene illuminant, and color/lightness rendition. As a result, the enhanced digital image is much closer to the scene perceived by the human eye, under all kinds and levels of lighting variations...

"The realistic beauty and visual impact of photographs can be diminished, damaged, or lost by a variety of possible problems. For example, colors and details can be lost or suppressed in shadows or other low light level zones in a picture. These same scenes, when directly viewed by the human observer, are vivid by comparison to the recorded image. PhotoFlair enables users to adjust their photographs to reflect what they saw with their own eyes, capturing the memory more accurately."

Cheers matey

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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:06 pm

Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm
I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.
Scientific conference paper on image enhancement.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ale_Images

Abstract
Image enhancement techniques are used to emphasize and sharpen image features to obtain a visually more pleasant, more detailed, or less noisy output image. Contrast enhancement can be achieved by linear contrast stretching, histogram equalization and adaptive histogram equalization for gray scale image. Color contrast can be achieved by linear color stretching or applying the histogram equalization on the intensity layer of HSI image. Likewise noise reduction can be achieved by different methods like averaging, median and sigma filter. In this paper image enhancement using these techniques has been discussed. A graphical user interface has made in MATLAB to test and verify proposed results of the above mentioned techniques.

(PDF) The Application of Image Enhancement on.... Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ale_Images [accessed Aug 17 2018].


Which is exactly what I've been saying about my methods.
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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:39 pm

Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm
I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/g ... urces/9389

"In raw imagery, the useful data often populates only a small portion of the available range of digital values (commonly 8 bits or 256 levels). Contrast enhancement involves changing the original values so that more of the available range is used, thereby increasing the contrast between targets and their backgrounds."

What you are suggesting amounts to anti science and enforced censorship .All fine if you live in a Totalitarian or Fascist regime.
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Unread post by Yowie bait » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:08 pm

As someone with an interest in this subject AND one of your subscribers( i find the eyeshine video compilation interesting but not animated enough to be definite of anything) ,what i would like to see is a solid type and remarkable subject that moves from one spot to another or is present in one photo and not the next. That would get my attention and im easy to please.

Not a stationary figure or what could be a tree blowing in the breeze or a rock but a definite figure that moves. I really hope you get that. It could be purple with polka dots for all i care as long as its convincing and the original footage provided. (thumb up)
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paulmcleod67 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:39 pm
Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm
I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/g ... urces/9389

"In raw imagery, the useful data often populates only a small portion of the available range of digital values (commonly 8 bits or 256 levels). Contrast enhancement involves changing the original values so that more of the available range is used, thereby increasing the contrast between targets and their backgrounds."

What you are suggesting amounts to anti science and enforced censorship .All fine if you live in a Totalitarian or Fascist regime.
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Ha i must be an anti science fascist then. You and i both know that they are wrong about one thing thats for sure..
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 pm

Yowie bait wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:08 pm
As someone with an interest in this subject AND one of your subscribers( i find the eyeshine video compilation interesting but not animated enough to be definite of anything) ,what i would like to see is a solid type and remarkable subject that moves from one spot to another or is present in one photo and not the next. That would get my attention and im easy to please.

Not a stationary figure or what could be a tree blowing in the breeze or a rock but a definite figure that moves. I really hope you get that. It could be purple with polka dots for all i care as long as its convincing and the original footage provided. (thumb up)
My greatest hope as well matey and the reason for all the bush walking at silly hours. The day I get that video will be the day I will retire from doing this...mission accomplished. I'm having a go at it, but not holding my breath on it just yet.
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Unread post by hillbilly » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:35 am

I wish you all the best in getting that video.
A thought on image enhancement.. it is fine when it makes a tree stump into a clearer tree stump, or a celestial body into a clearer image, but when it turns a dead tree stump into a gorilla, its going way too far.
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Unread post by Dion » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:55 am

hillbilly wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:35 am
....A thought on image enhancement.. it is fine when it makes a tree stump into a clearer tree stump, or a celestial body into a clearer image, but when it turns a dead tree stump into a gorilla, its going way too far.
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Unread post by Black » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:36 am

Paul,

All the best with your attempts. Just remember that cryptozoology is cryptozoology.

At the moment I have a trail camera set up on a private rural property. The two residents observed what they describe as a 40kg black cat making it's way through, from the closest distance of 25 meters, in broad daylight at 8am.

Mine is a valiant attempt also, but I have to be realistic.

Like the Yowie, nobody has ever obtained a clear photo, in this case where size of it being monstrous, is irrefutable. We all know there are large feral black cats getting around. Like the yowie, nobody can say what territorial range these black cats may prowl, and if flesh and blood, both must be guided by water, food, pressure of humans, and raising their young.

The fact is, neither have ever been photographed properly, and generally, where you have big cat sightings you also get yowie sightings and vice versa. But you still think they're both flesh and blood, yeah?

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Unread post by yowiedan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:18 am

When I post my research findings on Ayr or on Facebook or youtube etc I just post the RAW photos or video. No enhancements or stacking or highlights or any other bullshit manipulations to them. Paul, you sound like you're a hairdresser who is implying their trade to Yowie Researching. You are making us all look bad as a whole and giving the newbies the wrong impression. Wake up to yourself and keep it real or bugger off. Cheers!!!!

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by yowiedan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:10 am

Also, please don't come near my area to research your false c**p and trip over your thongs while walking through the bush. Stay in Qld Please!

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Black » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 am

Jesus, Yowiedan, talk about having your grumpy pants on! Didn't you get any in the early hours of the morning when you decided to plonk your posts up?

Lol, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on Paul, check out any of the fifty videos Rusty has produced, for starters. It's not like this site and forum has rules for posting up research images, is it?

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Rusty2 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:36 pm

Black wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 am
I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on Paul, check out any of the fifty videos Rusty has produced, for starters.
Hey Scarts !

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Yowie bait » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:21 pm

Black wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 am
Jesus, Yowiedan, talk about having your grumpy pants on! Didn't you get any in the early hours of the morning when you decided to plonk your posts up?

Lol, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on Paul, check out any of the fifty videos Rusty has produced, for starters. It's not like this site and forum has rules for posting up research images, is it?
Rustys videos are far from misleading.An excellent documentation on yowie research from beginning to end.

Yes there should be a guide or srandard for presenting evidence on the forum. I doubt most of us would bother if there was.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Black » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:46 pm

Sorry, Rusty ol boy! (devilish)

I think there needs to be a criteria reached before posting up research images. Perhaps a submission from needs to be completed first and/or the images screened first by a moderator before making to the public forum. At present though, anyone can post any research image they like and say whatever they like about said image.

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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

Unread post by Austral » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:27 am

To start screening images before being allowed on the forum is simply censorship ! I think the masses have done the job themselves and to allow one person to say it's in or out would defeat the purpose of a forum. I maybe new to this site but im not new to "our" subjuct, and would be disapointed if we go the censorship path.
I dont think we need to worry about anyones posted images embarrassing the yowie subject to the broader population but the wolves going for the jugular in responce isnt doing us any favours in professionalism.

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