A friend's experience tonight - your help, please?

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Re: A friend's experience tonight - your help, please?

Unread post by thehairyone » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:36 pm

Sorry to hear about your loss Shaz , My sincere condolences
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Re: A friend's experience tonight - your help, please?

Unread post by Black » Tue May 01, 2018 8:54 am

Hi Shaz,

My condolences, I'm sorry to read about your loss.

Any questions to you of your friend, and metal detecting, can wait.

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Unread post by inthedark » Tue May 01, 2018 11:06 am

Condolences to you and yours, Shaz. Hope your dad had a good innings, and travelled on peacefully.

Meantime, I'm having trouble with that location, as linked in your initial posts. I cannot imagine how an 8' tall hairy beast could exist in such a place, unseen. If anyone else can help out with that, I'd love to know more. How it's possible, theoretically.

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Unread post by sensesonfire » Tue May 01, 2018 7:53 pm

inthedark wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 11:06 am
Condolences to you and yours, Shaz. Hope your dad had a good innings, and travelled on peacefully.

Meantime, I'm having trouble with that location, as linked in your initial posts. I cannot imagine how an 8' tall hairy beast could exist in such a place, unseen. If anyone else can help out with that, I'd love to know more. How it's possible, theoretically.

Cheers,
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Hi inthedark, I would also like to offer condolences to Shaz at this sad time.
That location although it does seem somewhat open is actually part of a green belt that skirts through the suburbs and up into the hills. The vegetation is quite thick in places and at night a Yowie could go unnoticed being a camouflage specialist, daytime I doubt it as the biggest obstacle would be crossing some major roads and Highway. Does seem a bit of an obstacle course for a Yowie to follow just to end up at Southernwood Park but it's not impossible.
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Re: A friend's experience tonight - your help, please?

Unread post by inthedark » Tue May 01, 2018 11:11 pm

sensesonfire wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:53 pm


Hi inthedark, I would also like to offer condolences to Shaz at this sad time.
That location although it does seem somewhat open is actually part of a green belt that skirts through the suburbs and up into the hills. The vegetation is quite thick in places and at night a Yowie could go unnoticed being a camouflage specialist, daytime I doubt it as the biggest obstacle would be crossing some major roads and Highway. Does seem a bit of an obstacle course for a Yowie to follow just to end up at Southernwood Park but it's not impossible.
Thanks for the additional info on the location. Green belts can be corridors for wildlife of course, it's just that the belt in question appears to be only about 50 metres wide, at best. At least the portion under tree cover. Further, it's surrounded by suburbia. Just can't imagine why a huge, ultra shy animal would enter such an area. Incredibly dangerous, and no point to it.

I admit I have great difficulty with semi-urban and rural encounters, so I'm working with a bias. I guess I feel that it's so incredibly unlikely, that reasearch energy in such locations is wasted.

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Re: A friend's experience tonight - your help, please?

Unread post by Shazzoir » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:11 pm

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Shaz,

Is metal detecting at night a usual practice? I always pictured that as a daylight activity....

Oh, and what about his experience with his father when he was young?
Finally, I can get back to you on that, Black. Apologies for the delay. I posted it in the Perth WA Yowie thread, but here it is, copied and pasted:

I'm going to relate a friend's experience, or first experience, in the mountains north east of Perth, when he was about 19 or so (He's late 40's now, so that'll give you an idea of the time frame).

He had accompanied his father, to collect firewood from up in the hills, and they had commenced collecting some timber, when they both heard a disturbance in the bush in the valley beside the hills they were on, on the face directly above the hullabaloo. My friend stated they both saw the tree tops starting to thrash about, and whatever was making them do this, was advancing through the bush towards them, because he said they could both see the progression of the tree movement moving as whatever it was got closer. Then they heard a Godalmighty roaring vocalisation that stopped them in their tracks, and his father said "Let's go" and they hurried back to their ute. Perhaps oddly, they never spoke to each other in the car as to what they had heard or seen, but he said they were both fairly rattled, and it took a lot to rattle his father, who was a bushie-type who lived rough for decades out of choice, and who knew every Aussie animal cry, footprint and habitat. It was odd to my friend, but he didn't push the issue and they never spoke of it again.

I also posted another thread some months back about an encounter my friend had with something he can't explain, while metal detecting near a watercourse in the outer suburbs of Perth. I'll try to find it and post it here. He thought it was a person saying "GO!" with an immensely deep and powerful grunted intonation, but thinks now it wasn't an English word that was uttered, and it definitely wasn't a person according to him. As a result, this go-anywhere-any-time-of-day-or-night to detect guy swore off night detecting forever after his experience.

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:29 pm

Irritatingly, for some reason, the URL photo links are no longer working, so I have drawn the screencaps of our original conversation into a .PDF, so you can read through them at your leisure. The last photo is of the actual location of the sighting showing the steepness of the hill falling down to the creek.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5uemslsmq1t69 ... A.pdf?dl=0

Let me know if you have issues seeing the file. Anyone who has the above link is able to access it by pasting into your browser.

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Unread post by ripperton » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:21 am

Wonder what a Yowie or a spirit of a Yowie was doing less than 100m from a residential house claiming his territory
in what is clearly Human territory ?????
I totally believe what "S" says and take his encounter as real.
I would have also been physically overwhelmed by the sheer force of the Yowie's power, BUT I would have said something to it.
And it would have listened or it would have handed my a** to me. Either way it was out of line.

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Unread post by micathia » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:40 pm

ripperton wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:21 am
Wonder what a Yowie or a spirit of a Yowie was doing less than 100m from a residential house claiming his territory
in what is clearly Human territory ?????
I totally believe what "S" says and take his encounter as real.
I would have also been physically overwhelmed by the sheer force of the Yowie's power, BUT I would have said something to it.
And it would have listened or it would have handed my a** to me. Either way it was out of line.
Now I think yowies step in human territories much more often than we think.

They may possess some knowledge of geography, probably know 'from forest A to forest B we have to go across "human territories" at night' etc. They may even hide in bush during the day and keep moving after sun set.

Some of them might also perform "scout duty", going as closer to human as possible to watch us.

Recently I also have an idea that, they may move around even into "human territory" through hill top ridge lines. Since many country towns are built in the valley, we always look up those hills around us. Those hill tops that high enough to be covered in the cloud, few humans will go up there for bush walking I guess especially in winter. I think they might know it and travel frequently by stay on the very top of ridge lines.

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:14 am

I finally found my notes from the night S told me his story over the phone, and so I can relate to you more of the detail S told me about his first experience, in the mountains north east of Perth, when he was about 19 or so (about 20 years ago). The coloured bits are the extra info from my notes:

He had accompanied his father, to collect firewood from up in the hills foothills of Perth (I have 'Tindarra?' in my notes, but don't know if there is a place name like this, it's just as I heard him say it, and they had commenced collecting some timber they were using a chainsaw to cut firewood , when they both heard a disturbance in the bush in the valley beside the hills they were on, on the face directly above the hullabaloo. My friend stated they both saw the tree tops starting to thrash about, and whatever was making them do this, was advancing through the bush towards them, because he said they could both see the progression of the tree movement moving as whatever it was got closer.

Whatever it was stopped behind some scrubby bush and S related how a rank smell he described as "fish and cat piss" became apparent Then they heard a Godalmighty roaring vocalisation that stopped them in their tracks, and a 2m tall tree started to shake dramatically. S described the vocalisations then as a "whoop, whoop, whoop sound, like a monkey" and his father said "Let's go" and they hurried back uphill, empty handed to their ute. Perhaps oddly, they never spoke to each other in the car as to what they had heard or seen, but he said they were both fairly rattled, and it took a lot to rattle his father, who was a bushie-type who lived rough for decades out of choice, and who knew every Aussie animal cry, footprint and habitat. It was odd to my friend, but he didn't push the issue and they never spoke of it again.

Shazz

So here it ends... or does it?

I received a cryptic message text from S last week, in which he said something about a mate of his having a similar experience, so I've asked him to elaborate when he's ready, and will report back.

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Unread post by Slats » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:36 am

Hi Shazz
Do you know if your mate would be interested in talking to a researcher here in Perth. I would love to walk through the sighting location with him. There was the sighting in Roleystone last year where a big guy walk through their backyard and I am wondering if it may be the same one?

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:53 am

Hi Shazz. Thats all very interesting. Have you suggested your freind listen to some audio of Monkey howls for a comparison. The deeper gibbon howls or another type of monkey may be similar to what he heard?
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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:00 pm

Of course Rusty has some great audio available on his site as well! (thumb up)
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Unread post by MW83 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:33 pm

Slats wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:36 am
Hi Shazz
Do you know if your mate would be interested in talking to a researcher here in Perth. I would love to walk through the sighting location with him. There was the sighting in Roleystone last year where a big guy walk through their backyard and I am wondering if it may be the same one?

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Wow, that's not that far from suburbia! Whereabouts in Roleystone was it?

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:07 am

Hey Slats :) I will ask him...I am not sure which way he'll go, but I think he might speak with you. It's shaken him up quite a bit.

Also, Yowie Bait - guess what? S told me just last week, he was watching YouTube vids and said that one of the howls he heard on a Bigfoot vid was almost identical to what he heard.
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I'll ask him if he can tell me which vid it was, share it here, and also tell him about Rusty's page so he can explore that. Thanks for the tip! Awesome as usual :)

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Shazzoir wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:07 am
Hey Slats :) I will ask him...I am not sure which way he'll go, but I think he might speak with you. It's shaken him up quite a bit.

Also, Yowie Bait - guess what? S told me just last week, he was watching YouTube vids and said that one of the howls he heard on a Bigfoot vid was almost identical to what he heard.
Image

I'll ask him if he can tell me which vid it was, share it here, and also tell him about Rusty's page so he can explore that. Thanks for the tip! Awesome as usual :)

Shazz
No worries Shazz! Itll be interesting to hear which vocal it was he found. (thumb up)
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Unread post by Slats » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:15 pm

MW83 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:33 pm

Wow, that's not that far from suburbia! Whereabouts in Roleystone was it?
Im not 100% sure exactly where in Roleystone MW83 but here is the link from the main site.

http://www.yowiehunters.com.au/index.ph ... ralia-2017

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Unread post by Slats » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:18 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:07 am
Hey Slats :) I will ask him...I am not sure which way he'll go, but I think he might speak with you. It's shaken him up quite a bit.

Shazz
Thanks Shazz
That would be great if he is interested he can email me westozyowieresearch@gmail.com

Cheers 😁

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