Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

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Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by micathia » Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 am

Hi

Just happened to see this article, might be the reason why Yowie hate dogs? some bad, old memory?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -evolution


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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by Rusty2 » Tue May 22, 2018 4:38 pm

Makes a lot of sense that neanderthals disappeared because of the our alliance with the dog .
Yeah , I wonder if it is a memory or story handed down ? If only we knew .......

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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Tue May 22, 2018 7:31 pm

I can attest to the fact that dogs hate Yowies and vice versa. Have a listen to the normally quiet local dogs in my area. going off their proverbial heads at a disturbance in the bush near bye...


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Unread post by paulmcleod67 » Tue May 22, 2018 7:33 pm

Oh and here is part of the follow up investigation....

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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by Simon M » Wed May 23, 2018 12:04 am

Has Pat Shipman really proven that Neanderthals didn't also have domesticated wolves? Even if they didn't, it doesn't make this current idea correct. Neanderthals weren't 'wiped out' so much as 'absorbed' over thousands of years of interbreeding. This is proven by the presence of Neanderthal DNA in some modern human populations. As for the white sclera of the eyes...Neanderthals had those as well, being part of the genus homo. None of what she's saying seems that convincing in my view (yep, that's me expressing a personal opinion). She and Stringer have never gotten over the fact that their pet theory (early modern humans wiped out and 'replaced' all previous branches of the human family tree) has been blown out of the water by the DNA evidence. They continue to peddle their ideas despite evidence to the contrary. I find it a bit sad.

She and Chris Stringer love theorising, but often have little in the way of evidence for their (many and varied) claims about Neanderthals. I know it sounds more dramatic and exciting for a mainstream audience - the idea of an 'invasion' or clash between various groups of early humans - but there's plenty of evidence that shows Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal populations co-existed in the same areas for thousands of years. That's a pretty slow invasion.

She seems to want human history to read like an Elfquest comic, and I'm not buying into it. She's had some good ideas (the 'cut marks' she's famous for identifying), but she and Chris Stringer both need to get over that fact that their precious 'replacement theory' (aka, 'Out of Africa') doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Even Stringer had to admit (reluctantly) there was cross-breeding among groups of different early humans (the 'modified' replacement theory...aka, the reluctant acknowledgement of fact-based evidence once it became clear they'd been totally wrong for decades). We now know of the Neanderthals and Denisovans, and there may be others.

No one has to take my word for it, either - here are some articles which describe what I'm referring to in more detail than I could hope to go into (and there's more than just one source):

http://more-minerals.blogspot.com.au/20 ... ng-vs.html

http://www.rense.com/general33/doubt.htm

https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wile ... 1.02a00020

https://www.nature.com/scitable/content ... hesis-6391

We also know about Homo floresiensis, the presence of which neatly throws a spanner into the works of the replacement theory. The replacement theory is sanitised, politically correct codswallop (warning - another personal opinion). The multiregional hypothesis is the only one supported by actual fossil and DNA evidence.

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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by Simon M » Wed May 23, 2018 12:23 am

micathia wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 am
Hi

Just happened to see this article, might be the reason why Yowie hate dogs? some bad, old memory?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -evolution


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I wasn't trying to be confrontational, Micathia.

Regarding my opinions in the previous post: this is not to say that Yowies don't hate dogs - just that there's no real evidence that Yowies are descended from Neanderthals (although anyone who has European ancestry partially is).

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/358/6363/655

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/10/huma ... -realised/

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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by micathia » Tue May 29, 2018 11:02 am

Simon M wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 12:23 am
micathia wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 am
Hi

Just happened to see this article, might be the reason why Yowie hate dogs? some bad, old memory?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -evolution


:)
I wasn't trying to be confrontational, Micathia.

Regarding my opinions in the previous post: this is not to say that Yowies don't hate dogs - just that there's no real evidence that Yowies are descended from Neanderthals (although anyone who has European ancestry partially is).

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/358/6363/655

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/10/huma ... -realised/
Hi,

Me too, don't believe Yowie is descendant of Neanderthals either. :) However, one of the witness of yowie describing the head as "cave man looking".

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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by Simon M » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:34 am

I suppose the idea of a 'cave man' is the only thing we have to compare a Yowie to, so that's the comparison some people make in order to get the idea across when they've seen one.

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Re: Neanderthals must hate dogs, probably Yowies too?

Unread post by ripperton » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:15 pm

I think dogs may not be effected by infra sound and the Yowies cant shut them up.
Could be an intrinsic feature of the dogs guard ability.
They keep barking, Yowie gets the shits and crushes the dog.

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