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Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by Slats » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:08 pm

G'day All
I am looking for images of small tree breaks particularly on Acacia trees (Wattles). I was wondering if anyone has any I can use for an article in the Yowie Times pertaining to patterns of evidence. I'm fully aware of the all the possible causes including human, cockatoo's and even crows, which I found interesting.
It's an area of study I want to look further into.
If you do and you're happy for me to use them, could you please include:
Locations (Happy with region alone)
Time of year (estimates of freshness)
Height above ground
Number of breaks in the locale
Proximity to trails, roads, water sources
Any secondary evidence or observations

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Re: Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by TheBlackStump » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:27 pm

Hi Slats

Just a thought re possible secondary evidence that comes to mind.

Parts of wattle/acacia trees seasonally contain psychoactive alkaloids such as DMT , Trypamine etc. Basically these substances give hallucinogenic effect to users. So maybe the hairy people consume parts of the tree to get a tripping/psychodelic type high. Might explain some of their unusual abilities. But who really knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... _alkaloids

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Re: Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by Slats » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:37 pm

TheBlackStump wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:27 pm
Hi Slats

Just a thought re possible secondary evidence that comes to mind.

Parts of wattle/acacia trees seasonally contain psychoactive alkaloids such as DMT , Trypamine etc. Basically these substances give hallucinogenic effect to users. So maybe the hairy people consume parts of the tree to get a tripping/psychodelic type high. Might explain some of their unusual abilities. But who really knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... _alkaloids
Hey Blackstump
Thanks for link, I'll check it out. And yes anything is possible trippin' yowies would be a sight to see!
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Re: Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by Slats » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:46 pm

TheBlackStump wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:27 pm
Hi Slats

Just a thought re possible secondary evidence that comes to mind.

Parts of wattle/acacia trees seasonally contain psychoactive alkaloids such as DMT , Trypamine etc. Basically these substances give hallucinogenic effect to users. So maybe the hairy people consume parts of the tree to get a tripping/psychodelic type high. Might explain some of their unusual abilities. But who really knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... _alkaloids
Hey mate just remembered that there is a type of monkey in India, I believe, that gorge themselves on fallen and fermented fruit. They basically get drunk, but they keep doing it so it wouldn't be a first so to say.
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Re: Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by Dion » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:22 pm

Slats wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:08 pm
I am looking for images of small tree breaks particularly on Acacia trees (Wattles). I was wondering if anyone has any I can use for an article in the Yowie Times pertaining to patterns of evidence. I'm fully aware of the all the possible causes including human, cockatoo's and even crows, which I found interesting.
It's an area of study I want to look further into.

Cheers
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These are some of my own when I used to do research, cant tell you what type of Acacia it was been such a long time, I also cant guarantee they are from Yowie but some of them where very thick and would need a tremendous amount of strength to break. As you will see from the photos there were a number of them.

Location: Noojee, Victoria
Time of year: Cannot remember but they were fresh.
Height above ground: Roughly ranging from 5-7 feet.
Number of breaks: There was a small area of around 6-8 Breaks not all Acacia.
Proximity to trails roads and or water sources: all within 50 metres
Any secondary evidence or observations: It was in a known spot for encounters, there was also long grass at the time where something had walked through with big strides, myself being 6 foot exactly could not make the same strides through the grass? The thickest break being about 12-15cm wide.

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Unread post by Simon M » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:47 pm

I'm impressed by those images, Dion. They show that the tree was snapped in isolation, not as the result of a larger event (storms, etc). They also show - in my opinion - that the trees were broken in that way deliberately. They were chosen, for some reason, and then intentionally snapped. By what...we'll never know. But the deliberateness of their breakage seems clear.

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Unread post by Dion » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:54 pm

Simon M wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:47 pm
I'm impressed by those images, Dion. They show that the tree was snapped in isolation, not as the result of a larger event (storms, etc). They also show - in my opinion - that the trees were broken in that way deliberately. They were chosen, for some reason, and then intentionally snapped. By what...we'll never know. But the deliberateness of their breakage seems clear.
Yes the middle and bottom photos show the main tree was broken like a tooth pick (scared) it was in my opinion isolated event as there was no other areas along that stretch of road that had any breaks, why I do not know? other than something or someone having a brain fade.
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Unread post by Simon M » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:57 pm

There's also the 'how' of it. They've not been cut, but broken, using brute force. That's also weird.

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Unread post by Slats » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:16 pm

Dion wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:22 pm
Slats wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:08 pm
I am looking for images of small tree breaks particularly on Acacia trees (Wattles). I was wondering if anyone has any I can use for an article in the Yowie Times pertaining to patterns of evidence. I'm fully aware of the all the possible causes including human, cockatoo's and even crows, which I found interesting.
It's an area of study I want to look further into.

Cheers
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These are some of my own when I used to do research, cant tell you what type of Acacia it was been such a long time, I also cant guarantee they are from Yowie but some of them where very thick and would need a tremendous amount of strength to break. As you will see from the photos there were a number of them.

Location: Noojee, Victoria
Time of year: Cannot remember but they were fresh.
Height above ground: Roughly ranging from 5-7 feet.
Number of breaks: There was a small area of around 6-8 Breaks not all Acacia.
Proximity to trails roads and or water sources: all within 50 metres
Any secondary evidence or observations: It was in a known spot for encounters, there was also long grass at the time where something had walked through with big strides, myself being 6 foot exactly could not make the same strides through the grass? The thicke st break being about 12-15cm wide.

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Hey Dion
Thanks for sharing, the photos you posted look more like a eucalypt of some description. They none the less excellent photos, and certainly worthy of your documentation.
I'm more after the small tree breaks similar to the attached photo.
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Re: Wattle Tree Breaks

Unread post by Dion » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:25 pm

Slats wrote:
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.... the photos you posted look more like a eucalypt of some description. They none the less excellent photos, and certainly worthy of your documentation.
I'm more after the small tree breaks similar to the attached photo.
Definitely Acacia as I used to work with Parks and Gardens, I just cant tell you what type it was as its been a while.

The small tree breaks you posted (and not knowing the area your referring to) could it not be from an animal? you come across those types of breaks quite often in the Aussie bush?
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Unread post by Slats » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:02 pm

Dion wrote:
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Definitely Acacia as I used to work with Parks and Gardens, I just cant tell you what type it was as its been a while.

The small tree breaks you posted (and not knowing the area your referring to) could it not be from an animal? you come across those types of breaks quite often in the Aussie bush?
Fair enough about the trees.
I'm from WA the breaks were photographed on a side track leading away from a forestry road near Wright's Bridge campsite near Balingup WA. The track narrowed very quickly into a walking size trail and lead down to the creek.
Absolutely they could be from animals. I documented them because they were mostly broken back into the trees and there was about 14 different trees with damage (see YouTube link). I then later in another location found one that had been twisted back into the tree. Then noticed on another researchers YouTube channel some similar breaks. So I've decided to see if there's anyone else who has similar images to work out what the possible causes are. So far I've got info on the cocky's getting into them, crows breaking them during dry spells and human markers. I have a hunch that there's a little more to them and want to look further into it. I'll be happy whatever my investigation turns up it's just sparked my curiosity.

Thanks for your input though much appreciated!


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Slats wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:37 pm
TheBlackStump wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:27 pm
Hi Slats

Just a thought re possible secondary evidence that comes to mind.

Parts of wattle/acacia trees seasonally contain psychoactive alkaloids such as DMT , Trypamine etc. Basically these substances give hallucinogenic effect to users. So maybe the hairy people consume parts of the tree to get a tripping/psychodelic type high. Might explain some of their unusual abilities. But who really knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... _alkaloids
Hey Blackstump
Thanks for link, I'll check it out. And yes anything is possible trippin' yowies would be a sight to see!
Cheers
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Unread post by missm4mi » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:33 am

next time my friend and I go out on the trail will try and get some photos. I see a lot of this. the breaks are usually 1.5 metre's plus above ground level and usually the centre of the tree is hollow due to grubs/insects. the break is usually a clean break and the tree is often separated into two pieces. I haven't taken photographs of this because the trees are small so I thought maybe irrelevant to the yowie topic.
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next time my friend and I go out on the trail will try and get some photos. I see a lot of this. the breaks are usually 1.5 metre's plus above ground level and usually the centre of the tree is hollow due to grubs/insects. the break is usually a clean break and the tree is often separated into two pieces. I haven't taken photographs of this because the trees are small so I thought maybe irrelevant to the yowie topic.

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Hey mate
Thanks, I have a theory that our hairy friends might be using them as a food source, getting the grubs out of them. So I'm on the lookout for them now and trying to establish possible causes etc
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the Jack Black post is hilarious.

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Unread post by thehairyone » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:45 pm

Hi Slats , here are a few I have found , the top pic was nearly 8ft high and fresh , next was only a metre high and old , and the last two
were 7ft 6in high and very fresh .
The area is Gippsland in Vic and the time of year was winter .
There is a track about 100m away which is very rarely used by anything ( in 6 years of going to this location i have only ever seen someone else
a couple of times
There is a large water source nearby and lots of food , wallabies , deer , wombats , feral cats , all the usual suspects
In a km sq radius there are countless breaks and structures and 8 inch trees woven between 3-4 trees .
To the point i dont photograph them anymore unless there is something strange about them
I have also found a small patch of young wattle saplings only 1.5 m high and there were consistent breaks a metre high ( 5 in total ) all pointing in
the same direction , over about 20m
If you want anything else just sing out
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Unread post by thehairyone » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:47 pm

Hi Slats , I also have pics of the structures etc if you want them
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Unread post by Slats » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:42 am

thehairyone wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:45 pm
Hi Slats , here are a few I have found , the top pic was nearly 8ft high and fresh , next was only a metre high and old , and the last two
were 7ft 6in high and very fresh .
The area is Gippsland in Vic and the time of year was winter .
There is a track about 100m away which is very rarely used by anything ( in 6 years of going to this location i have only ever seen someone else
a couple of times
There is a large water source nearby and lots of food , wallabies , deer , wombats , feral cats , all the usual suspects
In a km sq radius there are countless breaks and structures and 8 inch trees woven between 3-4 trees .
To the point i dont photograph them anymore unless there is something strange about them
I have also found a small patch of young wattle saplings only 1.5 m high and there were consistent breaks a metre high ( 5 in total ) all pointing in
the same direction , over about 20m
If you want anything else just sing out
Cheers Greg
Hi Greg
Wow that seems an insanely active area, thanks for the pictures.
I'm particularly interested in the smaller wattles do you have any images of those by chance?
All good if you don't...
With the smaller trees were they broken away from the tree facing down or broken back into the tree facing up?
Was there anything in particular that they may have been facing towards?

Thanks heaps for the info so far!
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Unread post by thehairyone » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:27 pm

Hi Slats ,
Here are some of the small breaks on some wattles , most of the breaks were about a metre off the ground and all the breaks
were pointing in the same direction (roughly NW) , the pics were all taken on the same day in Oct last year ,
and to me it looked like something was walking along and just breaking them as they went
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Unread post by Slats » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:46 pm

thehairyone wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:27 pm
Hi Slats ,
Here are some of the small breaks on some wattles , most of the breaks were about a metre off the ground and all the breaks
were pointing in the same direction (roughly NW) , the pics were all taken on the same day in Oct last year ,
and to me it looked like something was walking along and just breaking them as they went
Cheers Greg
Hey Greg
Thanks for the photos

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