This image... Real? or Hoax?

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This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Wolf » Sun May 10, 2020 11:55 pm

This one has always intrigued me, though I do consider the shoulders perhaps too narrow?
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One Researcher, Robert Lindsay, postulated; "There are new high definition blow up pictures of the Melissa Hovey Bigfoot pic. They show excellent detail that seems to beyond what any costume designer would think up.

I can see the white bumps in the photo. This looks like some sort of skin condition. Perhaps someone with dermatological knowledge can chime in.

At first I thought I could see the tick, but now I can’t. Perhaps someone can point it out for me.

I saw the bloody looking sores/scrapes at first, and now I am seeing even more of them. I have heard that a lot of the older Bigfoots are pretty beat up looking. That stands to reason, I assume.

I do think that is an ear on the right. This looks a lot like the Harley Hoffman Bigfoot video. About the Bigfoots’ ears: they look rather small compared to human ears, but this stands to reason if they evolved in the north. Humans from the north have smaller ears than humans from near the equator. The smaller ears are to protect them from the cold. Some witnesses have also noted what they called pointy, elf-shaped ears on the Bigfoot they saw. I have seen these elf ears before, possibly in the Hoffman video.

The question about the photo being too high quality for a gamecam has been resolved. This was a homemade gamecam set up with a 35mm camera set with a zoom lens. These homemade setups were pretty popular a few years back. The photo quality makes good sense for a 35mm camera with a zoom lens.

The tree is a loquat tree. They are common in Florida, Texas and southern California. Hovey is a Texas researcher. It stands to reason that as she was chosen as the person to release the photo to, the photo may have been shot in Texas. Loquats have fruits that wild animals love to eat. Perhaps the Bigfoot was eating off the loquat tree. Perhaps since the Bigfoot was often seen eating off the loquat tree, a camera trap was set up to snap a photo of it while it was doing so.

There has been much speculation that this is the same costume that was used in a Bigfoot movie shot a while back called Clawed. However, I have seen the Clawed costume, and it looks nothing like this photo. I have also seen other costumes that this photo is said to resemble, and it looks like none of them."
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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Searcher » Mon May 11, 2020 10:48 am

Thanks for posting, Wolf. Yeah, I've come across this image before.

If it's a hoax, it's a clever one. There is always an "if only" with all these photos. With this one, it's if only the subject was facing the camera instead of having its back turned. We would certainly know so much more if there was a close facial shot.

The fact that the photographer Melissa Hovey-Larsen is President of the American Bigfoot Society, hosts her on radio show and regularly appears on TV shows perhaps raises some questions about the veracity of the image. It's highly convenient to personally have a controversial image to attempt by argument to justify her position as a believer.

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by yowiedan » Mon May 11, 2020 11:26 am

Is there only one picture? if it's a game camera wouldn't there be more pictures. Maybe video available.

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Bluedog » Mon May 11, 2020 1:08 pm

its a great pic and one that ive come across before. As searcher said if its a fake its a good one. one does wonder why someone would go to the trouble to fake a photo ,as we have seen before it doesnt matter how good a photo or a piece of footage is it will never be accepted as evidence ,it is just to easy to fake ,photos are either to good or not good enough and any image taken by a bigfoot researcher ,"well that must be a fake".
I for one believe that there is some really good photo and film evidence out there that people refuse to share because of the way they get treated by the media and scientific community in general (just ask Bob Gimlan)
Its a great photo and i believe it could quite well be legit.
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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by thehairyone » Tue May 12, 2020 11:41 am

Gday Dan ,
It depends on the camera and what settings it has , I know mine can take a pic then a video of varying lengths from 10 sec up to a minute , or it can take a pic only , I often get mine set off then only 1 set of pic and video with no further interaction recorded
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Unread post by Wolf » Tue May 12, 2020 11:56 am

Posted it on BookFace and boy has it stirred up a sh!tstorm... some involved in film that have even worked on Bigfoot movies have commented that it is NOT faked/a costume/etc.

Here is the suit from the movie many claim it to be from:
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No way is that the same 'suit'... musculature pathetic, head too big, etc.
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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by moetunes » Tue May 12, 2020 11:59 am

Here's a vid of M. K. Davis running the picture through some processing routines.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTwO6ApUao[\url]

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Unread post by moetunes » Tue May 12, 2020 12:20 pm

Another vid where he looks at the scratch.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp03Lqbevk0[\url]

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by yowiedan » Tue May 12, 2020 7:41 pm

It does look good, but anyone can fake the back and not the front. As I can't say it's fake I'm on the fence.

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Jim » Tue May 12, 2020 11:49 pm

The clearest photo of a hairy one, possibly ever. And s/he is facing in the opposite direction. Personally, that alone make me think hoaxsville.

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Wolf » Wed May 13, 2020 10:15 am

Jim wrote:
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The clearest photo of a hairy one, possibly ever. And s/he is facing in the opposite direction. Personally, that alone make me think hoaxsville.

This one is facing the front...
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Unread post by yowiedan » Wed May 13, 2020 12:51 pm

Looks like John Rambo.

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Unread post by AustralopithecineOz » Wed May 13, 2020 1:46 pm

I'm a fence sitter too. I think I feel this way about this image is because of the 'bigfootery' going on around the time of its release. From memory it was around the time of Rick Dyer's hoax and I was very dubious of anything being posted by the researchers of the time who all seemed to be attacking each other's research anyway. Maybe this prejudice caused it to be overlooked. I do however have a few questions.. I'm presuming this is a trail camera capture or claimed to be. 1. Why has the image had the time date stamp cropped out and how the subject got to be in position on what is claimed as the only capture? Apart from that who knows.

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Unread post by bassplyr » Wed May 13, 2020 2:14 pm

Hey wolf. Everyone I've shown those window peeper photos to thinks it looks absolutely real and not a costume. Those eyes are hard to fake in my opinion.

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Kinash » Thu May 14, 2020 6:53 pm

Searcher wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:48 am


The fact that the photographer Melissa Hovey-Larsen is President of the American Bigfoot Society, hosts her on radio show and regularly appears on TV shows
does that correlate with having greater knowledge of the best place to place a camera to get a result?

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Thecreeper » Thu May 14, 2020 10:23 pm

Id be building a house with no windows if i ever seen that peeping in
Im not sure about that one lol alot of people around the net are saying its a bear but if it wasnt a hoax it would be 150% bigfoot over a bear for me haha

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Re: This image... Real? or Hoax?

Unread post by Searcher » Thu May 14, 2020 10:55 pm

Searcher wrote:
The fact that the photographer Melissa Hovey-Larsen is President of the American Bigfoot Society, hosts her own radio show and regularly appears on TV shows

Kinash wrote:
does that correlate with having greater knowledge of the best place to place a camera to get a result?
If we could be positive the photo is 100% real, there would be no need to speculate on the possible advantages of perpetrating a hoax. Unfortunately, at this point in time, there is no definitive way to confirm beyond reasonable doubt this highly controversial image is genuine.

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Unread post by bassplyr » Fri May 15, 2020 4:42 am

Thecreeper wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:23 pm
Id be building a house with no windows if i ever seen that peeping in
Im not sure about that one lol alot of people around the net are saying its a bear but if it wasnt a hoax it would be 150% bigfoot over a bear for me haha

Awww i think it has gentle looking face. He looks bored and almost childlike in demeanor

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Unread post by AL Pitman » Mon May 18, 2020 8:13 am

Exactly bassplyr
And you can't easily fake that natural emotion !
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