Predator vs Predator Hypotheticals.

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Predator vs Predator Hypotheticals.

Unread post by Searcher » Sun May 31, 2020 2:58 pm

Maybe the pandemic lockdown has been wearing thin… or perhaps it’s just those regular predator vs predator shows on Foxtel have got me thinking.

Some time ago, I remember reading about some people fishing not far from the shore on a lake in North America. A large Grizzly came into sight in the nearby treeline. They watched it for a while before it suddenly took off at full speed. Moments later… you guessed it… they watched as a huge Squatch appeared and stood where the bear was before moving off. It seems the ol’ Grizzly knows his place in the forest and doesn’t want to mess with a Bigfoot!

So what could possibly challenge a Yowie or Bigfoot? On the local scene, a 20 foot or 6 metre saltwater crocodile can weigh as much as 1500-2000 kilos so I reckon even a 10 foot tall Yowie would be in a bit of strife against one of those prehistoric monsters. I think Yowies would have to take a lot of care when drinking from some North Queensland rivers. The Skunk Ape is Florida's Bigfoot and shares it's dangerous territory with Alligators and enormous man eating Burmese Pythons in the Everglades. The young ones particularly would need to stay on their toes as the pythons are nearing plague proportions.

If Yowies went to swim in the ocean (assuming they can swim), they would have little defence against the massive jaws of a Great White or Tiger Shark. Could that be why the population is stuck on Fraser Island? Or maybe they just like it there… you know, the holiday atmosphere and all that.

How would a something like a ferocious Lion or Tiger fare against a creature as large as a Yowie? Depending on the size of the Yowie it could be an interesting battle. If the battle were in a forest, the Yowie would have the distinct advantage of being able to uproot a nearby tree and use it as a club. That would surely give the Yowie the upper hand. :D

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Unread post by Shazzoir » Sun May 31, 2020 9:05 pm

Hey Searcher :)

I'm definitely in agreement with your suspicions that an Aussie croc would be the only thing to fear in this country, unless there is still the odd Thylacoleo getting about...

I'd not heard of any Yowies on Fraser, it's a finite place with lots of tourists, fishermen and campers day and night.... Have there been reports I'm not aware of, do you think?

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Re: Predator vs Predator Hypotheticals.

Unread post by Tuckeroo » Sun May 31, 2020 9:15 pm

Hi Searcher, Going by how adept Yowie's are on land you can’t help think they’d be good swimmers.
Kind of a sideways breast stroke I imagine, going by their spider gait description, leaving a vee wake
as they power towards the mangroves.

There are some places in the straights west of Fraser where the Yowie may have to only negotiate a few kays
of open water between sandbars. Does seem possible.
A smaller Yowie may come out second best to a shark attack, just like on land with a lion or tiger.
The larger ones we hear about with their speed and agility could overcome anything.
Even a pack of ravenous Hyenas with their group strategy.

Apart from their size and strength their best defence could be the odour they emit,
gagging any would-be attacker before there's any drama.
For all we know a Yowie's only problem might be the very small, things like ticks, fleas and other parasites.

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Sun May 31, 2020 10:33 pm

Tuckeroo that is a hilarious vision with the side breast stroke and spider gate and vee wake.:lol:

A full grown Bull Elephant vs 14 ft Yowie would be interesting. The battle of the infra-sound!

A Great White or a Massive Croc would surely take out a yowie in a fair fight? Fair fight meaning no levitation, shape shifting, lazer eyes etc

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Re: Predator vs Predator Hypotheticals.

Unread post by Muser » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:48 am

Yowie vs inland taipan??

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Unread post by Searcher » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:57 am

Hi Shazz,

We were discussing Yowie bait's scary sighting last week on the "I was chased by a yowie (interview)" thread on the Main Forum.
You must have missed it!
It happened on Fraser Island. Yes, it surprised me too there are Yowies there. :shock: I thought the dingo was the only threat.
Read the thread or listen to YB's graphic description of a close up encounter here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

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Unread post by sensesonfire » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:17 pm

If anyone has seen two massive male grizzly bears fighting well most have on TV at least the ferocity is unbelievable so you would think that these bears could more than defend themselves against Bigfoot but they don't they run in terror and it's not because they can't it's a case of being terrified of the unknown it's a creature they just don't understand.
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Unread post by sensesonfire » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:59 pm

Searcher wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:57 am
Hi Shazz,

We were discussing Yowie bait's scary sighting last week on the "I was chased by a yowie (interview)" thread on the Main Forum.
You must have missed it!
It happened on Fraser Island. Yes, it surprised me too there are Yowies there. :shock: I thought the dingo was the only threat.
Read the thread or listen to YB's graphic description of a close up encounter here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

Cheers!
This is definitely a contradiction in terms but I believe Yowie bait was chased by a Yowie on Fraser Island but I don't accept that they inhabit Fraser Island. An island 120 kilometres long 15 kilometres wide with thousands of tourists yet no one has ever encountered one, not even the dingoes apparently but as I said I do conclude Yowie bait's encounter occurred.
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Unread post by Searcher » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:20 pm

Muser wrote:
Yowie vs inland taipan??
G'day Muser,

Thought about that one too. The Inland Taipan is known as the world's most venomous land snake. It's estimated that one bite can inject enough venom to kill 100 men! The very dangerous Eastern Brown is considered the planet's second most venomous and is much more widespread across eastern Australia.

However, my guess is that Yowies are very aware of the potential danger and with their acute perception, would instinctively give these deadly snakes a wide berth.

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Re: Predator vs Predator Hypotheticals.

Unread post by Yowie bait » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:31 am

sensesonfire wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:59 pm
Searcher wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:57 am
Hi Shazz,

We were discussing Yowie bait's scary sighting last week on the "I was chased by a yowie (interview)" thread on the Main Forum.
You must have missed it!
It happened on Fraser Island. Yes, it surprised me too there are Yowies there. :shock: I thought the dingo was the only threat.
Read the thread or listen to YB's graphic description of a close up encounter here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

Cheers!
This is definitely a contradiction in terms but I believe Yowie bait was chased by a Yowie on Fraser Island but I don't accept that they inhabit Fraser Island. An island 120 kilometres long 15 kilometres wide with thousands of tourists yet no one has ever encountered one, not even the dingoes apparently but as I said I do conclude Yowie bait's encounter occurred.
Ha Senses I know what your thinkin and im pretty sure you dont mean the mainland! Seems likely a resident family unit to me but who knows. I can only report it.

Theres only one forum member ive shared the whole story with and he hasnt heard every little bit either but i think im on his " foes list" now anyway.
but thats all good. :lol:

Anyway they had good reason to chase us. Let us off easy. And hey im on THEIR side now. (taz) (love)
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Unread post by Shazzoir » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:15 pm

Wow, Searcher, thanks for the link!
Yowiebait, is this how you came to get your moniker? :D

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:50 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:15 pm
Wow, Searcher, thanks for the link!
Yowiebait, is this how you came to get your moniker? :D

Cheers!
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Hi Shazz. I thought it was a fitting name. Ive since seen theres a yowie bait fishing lure as well.
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Unread post by Shazzoir » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:55 am

Haha, really? :D

Seriously though, that big fella was escorting you off the premises in no uncertain terms! I was captivated by your story/report and that's saying something, as I'm rarely not doing two things at once, but I simply sat here at my computer, listening with rapt attention to your interview. Dustin also has a great interview style, and it was clear he too was rivetted.

Buck hadn't heard it either, so I sent him the link just now, so he can be blown away too. Glad you didn't end up as 'got', but you must admit, as 'bait' to attract the Yowie's attention, you and your mate did a sterling job!

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:59 pm

Shazzoir wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:55 am
Haha, really? :D

Seriously though, that big fella was escorting you off the premises in no uncertain terms! I was captivated by your story/report and that's saying something, as I'm rarely not doing two things at once, but I simply sat here at my computer, listening with rapt attention to your interview. Dustin also has a great interview style, and it was clear he too was rivetted.

Buck hadn't heard it either, so I sent him the link just now, so he can be blown away too. Glad you didn't end up as 'got', but you must admit, as 'bait' to attract the Yowie's attention, you and your mate did a sterling job!

Cheers
Shazz
Thanks Shazz.Glad you enjoyed listening to it! Dustin is very cool. I enjoyed talking to him. I only wish i had taken my time and told it better when he gave me the chance. Hopefully Buck finds it interesting!

We were perfect yowie bait alright. Behaiving badly and being noisy which i suppose could have been perceived as aggressive behaviour. And far away from where people were camping.

One of the things i remember but didnt mention was that we heard footsteps mirroring ours in the treeline prior to the incident and called out to see if someone was there. Why we didnt take off then or freak out about that or associate it with the encounter i dont know?

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Unread post by GECKO » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:39 pm

I reckon a yowie could take down a croc, if a human with the know how can do it then a yowie could do it with ease, 1 finger can hold a crocs mouth shut and a yowie like us has arms and hands, every other animal has paws or hooves and cant grab and hold. a python wouldn't try to take a yowie down because when a python moves on you it can feel your strength, once it knows your stronger it wont try, inland tiapan is the worlds most venomous but because its extremely shy and lives in remote outback it doesn't come across many people so the eastern brown takes the lead for most deadliest, it lives in our back yards and is very common. If anything will take a yowie down it will be something small, a tic or ant, jumping jacks are the most deadliest in Australia and bullant is second but both ants need to sting a human atleast 7 times to be fatal, thats only to some people though. Yowies have probably built up a good immune system to stings though. I know the question was fight not sting or infect so ill say the big hairy man would be the heavy weight champ. Shark would win in the ocean though, a hairy animal would become heavy in water where it cant reach the ground, it would tire out fast I'd imagine. Good question though, something to think about i guess

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Unread post by gregvalentine » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 pm

GECKO wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:39 pm
. . . 1 finger can hold a crocs mouth shut . . .
Personally, I'd also employ an opposable thumb (and probably more fingers just to be sure!) . . .

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Unread post by GECKO » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:21 pm

gregvalentine wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 pm
GECKO wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:39 pm
. . . 1 finger can hold a crocs mouth shut . . .
Personally, I'd also employ an opposable thumb (and probably more fingers just to be sure!) . . .
Haha yeah and some rope might be good.

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Unread post by Yowiechow » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:09 am

The only predator that I think would be a threat to a Yowie is a saltwater crocodile. Large Nile Crocodiles have been known to kill adult rhinos and Giraffe's and while those attacks are very rare it wouldn't be too out of the realm of possibility that a saltie could take on an animal as large as a yowie. However a yowie would probably be a dangerous prospect even for a 20 foot croc and like most predators chances are that in areas where they may co-exist both species do their best to avoid conflicts with one another

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