UFO PUZZLE

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UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by Searcher » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 am

It could be called a conundrum. ET craft that seem capable of travelling within our solar system, possibly across the Milky Way galaxy and maybe even travelling beyond through inter-galactic space in the universe… yet there are dozens of reported crashes worldwide.

How is it possible the space visitors can traverse the stars but not be able to fly without periodically crashing while in Earth’s atmosphere?

In theory, these supposedly super advanced civilizations should have elevated themselves above such things as simple equipment failure. The UFO enigma is full of confusion for us mere humans. There is much we simply don't understand. I cry out for full disclosure of what is actually known by governments about UFOs and their occupants. There is no doubt they know a lot!

I firmly believe the 1947 Roswell crash actually happened. There are over 200 witnesses who were directly involved in some way and have maintained confirmation of this for their entire lives. I never get tired of reading or watching documentaries about Roswell. :)

Perhaps some of these alien craft could have been shot down? Damaged in some way by earthly fire as our aircraft engaged them. That’s foolish at best and I think the least likely. I point to the well documented Iran case, where a jet fighter had it's weapons system shut down by a UFO. New laser beam technology could have the power to destroy UFOs in flight, but to my mind it would be totally naive to engage in a weapons fight with highly advanced beings.

Perhaps it is more plausible they are shooting each other down. This amazing 16th Century report suggests warring ET factions do fight each other in our skies.

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Re: UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by bassplyr » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:44 am

There may be that some of the reported ufos are alien and not human in origen. The Nuremberg incident gives one something to think about.

But its possible most ufos seen in the modern era are not traversing the galaxy and are homebrewed. And, that they are the ones that have crashed.

Perhaps the early models of "ufo" had particularly unstable drive fields while going through technological teething pains. But, that due to an evolution of technology are much more stable these days. There arent very many contemporary ufo crashes lately, nor instances of electrical disruption in the vicinity reported as often anymore. Perhaps thats tied in with proposed changes. Maybe the older models fell to the ground because getting blasted by powerful radar in the right frequency range disrupted their drive fields stability.

With the tehran incident. Sounds like someone launched a particular type of electronic counter measure at the jets.

A real puzzle worth figuring out is why electronics failed and then began working again. An emp would just fry electronics. They wouldn't restart afterwards. Plasma would be very hot and would also not do that to the aircraft. Maybe EM permittivity and permiability are altered due to the drive field and once out side the influence of the field return to normal allowing electronics to function again. Humans also need a lot of electric potential to send signals along synapses maybe the proposed altered permittivity and permiability in proximity of said drive field make brains go wonky too if not shielded by something like big bulbous helmets causing alice in wonderland type effects in their perceptions.

Its definitely a fascinating subject

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:23 pm

Nice video Searcher. Always thought that sky battle over Germany was a legit ufo encounter. What a sight to wake up to!

As for all these so called man made ufos. I did believe that for quite awhile but i just don't see how we are making the saucers and other non plane looking ufos.

If we did they would have been weaponised by now and used in warfare. Also why is Branson and co using plane type/conventional looking craft for their orbit trips as the craft of choice and not saucers??

I just dont believe we have the technology perfected. Not yet anyway!
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Re: UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by bassplyr » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:16 am

Regarding why elon musk and richard branson types arent cruising around in ufos. Maybe they operate on a principle that was stumbled across on accident by another industry related to aerospace that has primarily military contracts. It could be it was a novel application of two seemingly disparate technologies and that you wouldn't independently stumble across it on your own unless you were in a specific business and industry that branson types arent in.

Regarding why not militarise it? Its possible that the primary mechanism behind the drive field makes it so its not so easy to simply weaponise. Maybe bullets and missiles wont fare so well traveling through said field and beam weapons might adversely effect said field disrupting how the ufo operates leading to crashes or other mishaps. If so, and if academics from major universities or industry associated with such technology were in on it, they might agree with keeping secrecy for safety sake.

Why not go public with the devices. What the drive field does might be disruptive economically. It might also be very dangerous if something were to go wrong and lead to a catastrophe. A guy meaning well playing mister wizard in his garage could accidentally take out the neighbourhood if it was so that the technology is dangerous in the wrong hands. Also, consider all the instances of electrical malfunction and other assorted zany-ness associated with (hypothetically) the earlier models before possibly the technology matured out of such "technical difficulties." You wouldn't want people experimenting with that sorta thing in the neighbourhood and accidentally causing chaos. And its potentially possible that until the technology matured to a reasonable safe level a lot of early flights had a lot of casualties. If that were the case, the govt might want to keep it on the down low while writing a lot of " John Doe met his fate in an unfortunate helicopter accident" letters to families and not want to create public uproar.

If E=MC2, which is really M=E/C2 and you accidentally figured out one day a while back how to change one of the variables in that equation, it could potentially be although very useful in a limited capacity but also very dangerous if misunderstood and misapplied. I'm sure there are good reasons a potential technology such as the topic of this thread would be tightly controlled and kept quiet.

Thats my speculation.

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Re: UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by Searcher » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:16 pm

G’day Yowie bait. I agree with your thoughts. It’s also a bit of a puzzle to me as to why NASA (Never A Straight Answer) and private enterprise continue to pour billions into developing chemical rockets when they already know how to make anti gravity craft Is the black budget TR-3B real??

The US government has supposedly been back engineering crashed craft since the 1940’s. It is relatively common to see ‘strange lights’ performing in unconventional ways near Area 51 in Nevada. Colonel Philip J. Corso, former Army Intelligence officer and Chief of the Pentagon’s Foreign Technology desk describes in his book ‘The Day After Roswell’ how he integrated captured alien technology into society for the benefit if humanity. Corso died of a “massive heart attack” in 1998.

Eisenhower famously said to “beware the military/industrial complex”. Some of these are the clandestine groups that now build reverse engineered versions of captured alien craft under the auspices of the CIA. If Betty Cash were still alive, she would testify to that. (Check out the Cash-Landrum incident on You Tube if you want to know more)

Also concur with a lot of bassplyr’s speculation. I’ve been reading about all this stuff for many decades. However, even with all that information, I can still only surmise or take a wild guess as to the real truth. Sad but true.

It is clear the US agencies that are “keepers of the secrets” are not yet ready to divulge this sensational information to the public. No doubt the military and CIA want to keep on developing any captured technology for strategic purposes.

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Re: UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by bassplyr » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:30 am

I'm not convinced that ufos are captured and reverse engineered technology. In fact, I'm quite convinced they are not.

One thing to keep in mind about anything classified. Its all compartmentalized. A Top Secret clearance of any level doesnt make you master of the universe or the key master. Just because you have a clearance at xyz level doesnt mean its cleared you to know about anything you arent specifically written in on. The best you can get is rumours about projects that might be going on literally next door to whatever you're working on. So its very plausible, i say by design, that a whole division in some high tech aerospace corp will not know anything or even hear a whisper about anything going on in other parts of the company. Therefore, you're going to see Boeing building a rocket based x-37, while elsewhere at the same company they could be quietly developing "anti-gravity" like devices.

The description of the vehicle in the cash landrum incident sounds like some type of flamejet generator. Which, to me, is suggestive of what the vehicle was experimenting with and trying to achieve.

My belief is that the TR-3b as described by Fouche is not real. Are there things out there that resemble it and manuever like one. In my opinion, oh yeah. But, i dont think its called the TR-3b, or that it works on any principles that Fouche proposed. For instance, rotating plasma at that atmospheric pressure and cyclical speed makes no sense.

I often wonder if people are looking at things the wrong way when they chase anti gravity and electrogravitics research.

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Re: UFO PUZZLE

Unread post by gregvalentine » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:11 pm

Searcher wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 am
It could be called a conundrum. ET craft that seem capable of travelling within our solar system, possibly across the Milky Way galaxy and maybe even travelling beyond through inter-galactic space in the universe… yet there are dozens of reported crashes worldwide.

How is it possible the space visitors can traverse the stars but not be able to fly without periodically crashing while in Earth’s atmosphere?
"Mother" ships and "Scout" ships . . .

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