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Cloaking?

Unread post by DRandall134 » Sat May 20, 2017 10:03 pm

So this is gonna be my first post and, yep. You read it right. Predator style. Can they do it? Im starting to like this idea more and more. Thoughts?

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Unread post by Zed » Sat May 20, 2017 11:40 pm

Yes it is very interesting the way they disappear, I am only going off the accounts I have read as I have not been lucky enough to have had a sighting.

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Unread post by Tim* » Sun May 21, 2017 8:02 am

Have there been any/many reports of creatures disappearing in open areas where theres no cover?

It seems most sightings are close to bush or wooded areas. Perhaps their ability to silently blend in to surrounding cover could be misconstrued as cloaking. There are reports of creatures silently backing into the scrub. As if being swallowed by their surrounds.

Also reports of creatures taking roads and trails in just a few steps. Something that explosive and fast could disappear in the blink of an eye.

I think these scenarios are far more likely than cloaking.

The perception of cloaking is probably more likely to be our own brains interpretation of what we're seeing(or not seeing) than the creature actually cloaking.

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Unread post by sensesonfire » Mon May 22, 2017 2:14 pm

Tim* wrote:Have there been any/many reports of creatures disappearing in open areas where theres no cover?

It seems most sightings are close to bush or wooded areas. Perhaps their ability to silently blend in to surrounding cover could be misconstrued as cloaking. There are reports of creatures silently backing into the scrub. As if being swallowed by their surrounds.

Also reports of creatures taking roads and trails in just a few steps. Something that explosive and fast could disappear in the blink of an eye.

I think these scenarios are far more likely than cloaking.

The perception of cloaking is probably more likely to be our own brains interpretation of what we're seeing(or not seeing) than the creature actually cloaking.

Hi Tim, one particular case of the creature disappearing into thin air occurred at Wandering WA in 2012 two mates were travelling about 2 km's out of town when a Yowie crossed the road in front of them into an open paddock, they were shocked especially when it appeared to vanish. You can find the story on Dean Harrison's Australian Yowie Research, Report Sightings WA: Wandering. Great report.
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Unread post by Simon M » Mon May 22, 2017 8:30 pm

Tim* wrote:Have there been any/many reports of creatures disappearing in open areas where theres no cover?

It seems most sightings are close to bush or wooded areas. Perhaps their ability to silently blend in to surrounding cover could be misconstrued as cloaking. There are reports of creatures silently backing into the scrub. As if being swallowed by their surrounds.

Also reports of creatures taking roads and trails in just a few steps. Something that explosive and fast could disappear in the blink of an eye.

I think these scenarios are far more likely than cloaking.

The perception of cloaking is probably more likely to be our own brains interpretation of what we're seeing(or not seeing) than the creature actually cloaking.
I tend to agree with this. It's also possible that they are able to somehow interfere with out perceptions using infrasound (a personal preoccupation of mine and one which fits in with the 'confusion' or 'terror' often mentioned in relation to a close-quarters sighting).

Again, we're supposing everything since we have no solid evidence they even exist - but I don't believe that they're able to 'cloak' themselves or otherwise defy the laws of nature and physics. It's more likely that human perception is to blame for their 'supernatural' qualities in my opinion. The concept that the Yowies might be able to interfere with our perceptions intrigues me but there's no proof of it.

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue May 23, 2017 12:25 pm

DRandall134 wrote:So this is gonna be my first post and, yep. You read it right. Predator style. Can they do it? Im starting to like this idea more and more. Thoughts?
Theres a few reports of cloaking or something like cloaking in the " is the yowie a highly evolved hominid?" and Wellymons " finally got to see the hairy ones" threads on the main board that may interest you. I believe them to be honest accounts. Also discussed various times in different threads on this section. Hope thats a help and welcome to the forum! (thumb)
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Unread post by sensesonfire » Tue May 23, 2017 1:17 pm

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Tim* wrote:Have there been any/many reports of creatures disappearing in open areas where theres no cover?

It seems most sightings are close to bush or wooded areas. Perhaps their ability to silently blend in to surrounding cover could be misconstrued as cloaking. There are reports of creatures silently backing into the scrub. As if being swallowed by their surrounds.

Also reports of creatures taking roads and trails in just a few steps. Something that explosive and fast could disappear in the blink of an eye.

I think these scenarios are far more likely than cloaking.

The perception of cloaking is probably more likely to be our own brains interpretation of what we're seeing(or not seeing) than the creature actually cloaking.
I tend to agree with this. It's also possible that they are able to somehow interfere with out perceptions using infrasound (a personal preoccupation of mine and one which fits in with the 'confusion' or 'terror' often mentioned in relation to a close-quarters sighting).

Again, we're supposing everything since we have no solid evidence they even exist - but I don't believe that they're able to 'cloak' themselves or otherwise defy the laws of nature and physics. It's more likely that human perception is to blame for their 'supernatural' qualities in my opinion. The concept that the Yowies might be able to interfere with our perceptions intrigues me but there's no proof of it.

G'Day Simon,
In my opinion the laws of nature and physics do not apply to these cryptids that's if they exist and I believe they do. Everything we read about them contradicts any notion of reason.

Tim said: "Also reports of creatures taking roads and trails in just a few steps. Something that explosive and fast could disappear in the blink of an eye.
I think these scenarios are far more likely than cloaking".(unquote) When you consider that a Yowie had been recorded to able to run at least 80 km's per hour in pursuit of a car and I believe much faster. I think in this case the Yowie just ended the chase, this basically defies any rules of nature/ physics in the context of scientific knowledge that we know. I think it was Wellymon that said he witnessed a Yowie travel from point A to B at an astonishing speed almost at the speed of light so if you consider this fact then their ability to disappear/vanish whether by cloaking or at a scientifically impossible speed is the same.

As for their ability to blend into surrounding cover as Tim suggested contradicts the Wandering 2012 report witnessed by two people where they said the Yowie was some distance from any cover which consisted of small scrub type vegetation certainly not enough to camouflage a creature the size of a Yowie. I know you and I differ with our opinions on these cryptid creatures but that is exactly what cryptozoology is the search for and study of animals whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated so reason/physics is non-applicable at this present time, maybe in the future we may start to unravel the mysteries of these creatures although I doubt science is going to provide us with the answers (though I have been known to be wrong on occasions. : lol )

















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Unread post by Tim* » Tue May 23, 2017 2:45 pm

Whilst I acknowledge those reports Sense,' I also realise people are not infallible in their retelling of events. Whether it be embellishment(you must admit there is some outright bullsh*t being thrown around) or simple confusion. These events are so far out of the ordinary persons frame of reference they often struggle to join the dots to make logical sense of it.

I am not totally dismissive of the paranormal. But I do like to exhaust all rational avenues of explanation first. On the other end of the spectrum there are those with paranormal leanings that will assess these events with less rationale. I'll be honest here and I'm not talking about anyone in particular, I also don't mean to offend, but throughout my life I have found those people who jump first to a paranormal explanation are alse prone to sensationalism.

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue May 23, 2017 3:28 pm

I think the real problem with the "supernatural" stuff is that it doesn't matter who reports it. Could be a seasoned hunter, respected researcher or even the person running this forum but still the science guys are going to ignore it and keep on with the same old same old. Homo this and that, theyre good at hiding, blah blah blah etc etc.

I have never had a "supernatural" type experience with the yowie but some have and they're not idiots or " bullshitters" or crazy and in fact some of the most experienced there are with the topic of " yowies" as we call them and are honestly recalling their experiences.

If we choose to ignore that or write them off because of it then thats our problem and were not listening to all the evidence..of which there isnt much of according to science.
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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue May 23, 2017 3:36 pm

I actually dont give a hoot either way. The things are weird enough even without the paranormal lore or whatever.
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Unread post by Simon M » Tue May 23, 2017 11:08 pm

sensesonfire wrote: In my opinion the laws of nature and physics do not apply to these cryptids that's if they exist and I believe they do. Everything we read about them contradicts any notion of reason.

I know you and I differ with our opinions on these cryptid creatures but that is exactly what cryptozoology is the search for and study of animals whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated so reason/physics is non-applicable at this present time, maybe in the future we may start to unravel the mysteries of these creatures although I doubt science is going to provide us with the answers (though I have been known to be wrong on occasions. : lol )
I don't think our opinions differ that much - we both assume that Yowies exist and we both acknowledge that there's more going on than anyone is currently able to explain.

Again, I'd make the point that the laws of nature and physics apply to everything - it's our understanding of these laws which is limited and, in some cases, incorrect. Before I start thinking that Yowies are capable of teleportation by unknown means, etc, I'm going to attempt to explore every quantifiable option.

Science isn't a belief system, it's a means of discovering and testing information. If you find something new, you have to explain it - the whole 'science versus supernatural' idea is a furphy. Only if something is verifiable can you start to understand it.

Me sitting at a computer making guesses isn't constructive. Yes, some people have reported the things you mentioned - but some people also swear that the Earth is flat or that Adam Sandler is a really good actor, etc. It doesn't mean that it's anything more than an opinion, and everything I write is also just an opinion.

No other living thing we know of can simply vanish into thin air - so I have to assume these things can't do it either. Until I see it happen, or it can be objectively verified, it's just an opinion. I assume Yowies exist due to the anecdotal evidence, but that's also just an opinion. I can't bring myself to start assuming stuff because it muddies the waters and is unhelpful in the scheme of things.

Only by focusing on verifiable, measurable facts can we hope to understand these creatures. Maybe they are capable of stuff no other living thing is capable of, but we cannot prove it. We will all post whatever we wish, assume what we prefer, but it brings us no closer to understanding - and understanding is what's required. Without a system of inquiry we're just guessing, and going around in circles.

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Simon M wrote:
sensesonfire wrote: In my opinion the laws of nature and physics do not apply to these cryptids that's if they exist and I believe they do. Everything we read about them contradicts any notion of reason.

I know you and I differ with our opinions on these cryptid creatures but that is exactly what cryptozoology is the search for and study of animals whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated so reason/physics is non-applicable at this present time, maybe in the future we may start to unravel the mysteries of these creatures although I doubt science is going to provide us with the answers (though I have been known to be wrong on occasions. : lol )
I don't think our opinions differ that much - we both assume that Yowies exist and we both acknowledge that there's more going on than anyone is currently able to explain.

Again, I'd make the point that the laws of nature and physics apply to everything - it's our understanding of these laws which is limited and, in some cases, incorrect. Before I start thinking that Yowies are capable of teleportation by unknown means, etc, I'm going to attempt to explore every quantifiable option.

Science isn't a belief system, it's a means of discovering and testing information. If you find something new, you have to explain it - the whole 'science versus supernatural' idea is a furphy. Only if something is verifiable can you start to understand it.

Me sitting at a computer making guesses isn't constructive. Yes, some people have reported the things you mentioned - but some people also swear that the Earth is flat or that Adam Sandler is a really good actor, etc. It doesn't mean that it's anything more than an opinion, and everything I write is also just an opinion.

No other living thing we know of can simply vanish into thin air - so I have to assume these things can't do it either. Until I see it happen, or it can be objectively verified, it's just an opinion. I assume Yowies exist due to the anecdotal evidence, but that's also just an opinion. I can't bring myself to start assuming stuff because it muddies the waters and is unhelpful in the scheme of things.

Only by focusing on verifiable, measurable facts can we hope to understand these creatures. Maybe they are capable of stuff no other living thing is capable of, but we cannot prove it. We will all post whatever we wish, assume what we prefer, but it brings us no closer to understanding - and understanding is what's required. Without a system of inquiry we're just guessing, and going around in circles.
Unfortunately Simon, anecdotal evidence is all we have to go on. If some scientists could get together with the researchers maybe they could get some more definite results?
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Unread post by Simon M » Thu May 25, 2017 5:09 pm

Possibly - but we all know most of them won't risk their professional reputations...so it's Groundhog Day all over again. ;)

All the evidence so far is anecdotal, you're right - but it still exists. As long as people are looking, they stand a chance of seeing one. The more people who go out there and have a squiz, the more likely someone is to record something unprecedented.

I suppose I'm just being optimistic. It'll take more than one image or a few minutes of video to win over the sceptics. One day, multiple people with multiple iPhones will witness an event, or one will be captured by several dashcams simultaneously, etc. It'll happen, and it might not change the world, but it might make a few more people a lot less sceptical.

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Simon M wrote:Possibly - but we all know most of them won't risk their professional reputations...so it's Groundhog Day all over again. ;)

All the evidence so far is anecdotal, you're right - but it still exists. As long as people are looking, they stand a chance of seeing one. The more people who go out there and have a squiz, the more likely someone is to record something unprecedented.

I suppose I'm just being optimistic. It'll take more than one image or a few minutes of video to win over the sceptics. One day, multiple people with multiple iPhones will witness an event, or one will be captured by several dashcams simultaneously, etc. It'll happen, and it might not change the world, but it might make a few more people a lot less sceptical.
Groundhog day is right. And yeah like the gorillas as you mentioned once before Simon, was considered a myth by the Europeans and eventually a household fact, then so might the hairy man eventually be known...unless they can cloak or turn invisible of course then theyll never find the buggers!
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Simon M wrote:All the evidence so far is anecdotal, you're right - but it still exists. As long as people are looking, they stand a chance of seeing one. The more people who go out there and have a squiz, the more likely someone is to record something unprecedented.
Agree.. I think when car cameras become a standard vehicle inclusion we will get results. All the reports on AYR of roadside/crossing road sightings from vehicles down the years indicate to me that if they all had have had cameras recording we would have heaps of videos of them. I agree these things are nearly impossible to hunt with a camera. It seems when they are usually seen that it is a mistake on their behalf.

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DaveR wrote:
Simon M wrote: Agree.. I think when car cameras become a standard vehicle inclusion we will get results. All the reports on AYR of roadside/crossing road sightings from vehicles down the years indicate to me that if they all had have had cameras recording we would have heaps of videos of them. I agree these things are nearly impossible to hunt with a camera. It seems when they are usually seen that it is a mistake on their behalf.
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One problem with them (and I have one myself) is that they are so wide-angle anything that's not really close will show up very small. Also, the main chance of catching one is on an unlit (by street lights) remote country road at night.

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Unread post by Rusty2 » Fri May 26, 2017 7:36 pm

I caught 2 very large black cats on my crashcam on 2 separate occasions and you couldn't see anything but a small discoloured blurry object .

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Unread post by themanfromglad » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:17 am

All of my field experiences are paranormal in one way or another. Invisibility is the easiest way to define paranormal. Each and every one of you can verify for yourself, that there is something heavy and bipedal, that checks you out at all of your camping spots. This assumes of course that you are in the forest and that the density of Yowie population is as much or more as it is in the States.

You simply buy yourself a 1" diaphragm, high signal to noise ratio, omni-directional XLR microphone, 30 meters of XLR wire, a high end portable recorder and some head phones. If you want your camping buddy to verify that you are essentially surrounded by Yowie during broad daylight, at your safest camping spot, you add a splitter and a second set of head phones. You set the microphone out the full length of the wire and leave that velcro tape that wraps up the XLR wire, right at the microphone. For location, you naturally cannot have any insect sounds, creek or river sounds, vehicle sounds, other campers sounds, wind sounds, or jets flying over. You will also need a quiet chair. Set up the microphone where you can see it amoung the trees, in order to get the full effect of what you are about to experience.

Now you crank up your recorder and be still, and listen. You will hear slow crunching bipedal footstep sounds if you chose a place with ground debris that can be noisy when stepped on. Eventually, you may hear something with opposable thumbs, unzip the velcro tape at your microphone. However, you will see nothing at the microphone from your chair, and when you inspect the velcro tape, it will still be in it's original position. Even though this setup can record you breathing within 10 meters, you will probably not pick up the breathing sounds of whatever is unzipping the velcro in another dimension. Consequently, you can throw out the window, everything that you think that you know about the paranormal Yowie, because this field experiment is going to mess with your mind if you spend anytime thinking about it.

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Unread post by Coast » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:36 pm

Any chance you could link the items you described for some of us not in the 'tech' know? (1" diaphragm, high signal to noise ratio, omni-directional XLR microphone, 30 meters of XLR wire, a high end portable recorder).

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Coast wrote:Any chance you could link the items you described for some of us not in the 'tech' know? (1" diaphragm, high signal to noise ratio, omni-directional XLR microphone, 30 meters of XLR wire, a high end portable recorder).
I have a Shure KSM44a microphone and a Zoom H6 recorder. But you can also use a camcorder with a sensitive microphone and an xlr amplifier, so you can get a visual record simultaneously with your audio record. There are probably some other combinations that work as well. The microphone is the most important.

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The Manfromglad well you have out done yourself this time you have explained to yourself what you don't understand and pass it of as a paranormal being or infestation a Dr Johnson supporter i would suspect.Why can't you admit that these beings are just more bush savey than you or your followers.Well above the experience of any special forces camouflage tactic ,with far superior DNA which is evolving to a new species out of a need to survive along with homo sapiens.Please try our research methods and you will see they are real and complete beings .The hair samples that have been collected are opaque and just suppose there hair is like a Polar bear ,ie Polar bear skin is dark coloured but guess what the hair appears white (the largest bear species on the Earth is not a supernatural spook ? ) I would suggest to your supporters that all they are chasing or suggesting as being supernatural is a highly evolving relative to our homo genus ,1 they have hair that changes colour to suit prominent surrounds (similar to the Preditor ) 2 . Master bushman and survival expert 3.Has developed advanced senses including the ability to project infra sound and infra sound suggestion ,this in itself can make things appear to not be there when in fact they are still standing right in front of you .This point by itself blows the supernatural idea out of the water .It can also explain why we can't get a clear photo,or camera's stop working ,malfunction etc.I think they feel you believe in spooks and pray on it.You are being led on by something that is more advanced than you.However I no that you will come back with an unreal c**p come back supporting your theories.P.S .try and make a reply that has a solid argument no orbs or spooks please.Just one more thing these folks are spiritual and do sense your intentions or ill intent so be carefull.

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:08 pm

Are you sure they can change colour Rod? Ive been sayin the same thing for years and apparently i am an idiot for thinking this.
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Yowie bait wrote:Are you sure they can change colour Rod? Ive been sayin the same thing for years and apparently i am an idiot for thinking this.

I should have said " have you seen them change colour?"
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Unread post by rodbenfield59 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:45 am

Yowie Bait how you mate ,No I have not seen them change colour before my eye's but in all the area's i have searched for these blokes they all have been the dominate colour of there surrounds.Just some examples for your reference up the back of Kingaroy area red brown,out near the power station side towards Maidenwell they are a dirty blonde and even some are a natural colour like a rabbit or a grey roo, out the back of Nanango there black ,out there the dirt and ant hills are black .Where I am living now on the property we rent i have seen dark red brown ,black and blonde these could all be the same animal though as i have clear by slashing some surrounds for fire prevention and feed growing purposes for live stock and all of these colour differences on 100 acres in only 6 months .If you go to where Nigel has been up near Black Butt and Kilcoy they are a rusty red to black colour.My list can go on but in all cases it is evident that they have adapted to the colour of there surroundings.After researching with American Indians as well in the states i have come across a medicine man over there that has a photo comparing a camo special forces soldier backing into the bushand vanishing right before your eye's as he blends in to his surroundings while remaining perfectly still.On the other side a computer sim of a bigfoot stepping out of its surrounding's which to me was much more believable than 800 lbs of flesh and blood putting on an inadvisability cloak borrowed of Harry Potter.This Indian guy also believes and this is just food for thought that our Australian Yowie is much older than the American bigfoot etc.He say's that because they have a more devaloped DNA that there age can be metered by hundreds of years and not draw any comparison to our puny life span that we no,he has been to Australia and spoken to our indigines folk and had been told that our blokes are not reproducing at a level that can sustain them and that our reproducing stock could be as old as 800 yrs ? so this is the level of bush smarts we are trying to understand.

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Unread post by Yowie bait » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:27 pm

I am well thanks Rod and thanks for your reply. That is some of the most interesting stuff ive read about the yowie. I guess black would be the go to colour for blending in at night if this is the case.

Theres been a few property owners reporting different colours. Jeff Nelson for example mentions he has seen at least 4 different colours on his property. Wellymon saw a few different coloured ones as well at his property.

I have heard of a group of grey ones that would cross a property at blackbutt, brown/ black at peaks crossing and ive seen two black ones. Once at night and another in the late afternoon.

If the one in the arvo wasnt moving, i doubt i would have noticed it at all. It made no sound when it walked and didnt once look where it was going. Eyeballed me the whole time. Its face was so dark black i could barely make out any features other than it had its head turned towards me.



Thats interesting as well about the age of them. That doesnt suprise me actually. This type of info from these indigenous chaps is amazing. Suggestive infrasound,them evolving to coexist with humans and not reproducing as much is mind blowing. If you care to elaborate on this it would be much appreciated.(thumb)
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Unread post by themanfromglad » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:12 am

rodbenfield59 wrote:The Manfromglad well you have out done yourself this time you have explained to yourself what you don't understand and pass it of as a paranormal being or infestation a Dr Johnson supporter i would suspect.Why can't you admit that these beings are just more bush savey than you or your followers.Well above the experience of any special forces camouflage tactic ,with far superior DNA which is evolving to a new species out of a need to survive along with homo sapiens.Please try our research methods and you will see they are real and complete beings .The hair samples that have been collected are opaque and just suppose there hair is like a Polar bear ,ie Polar bear skin is dark coloured but guess what the hair appears white (the largest bear species on the Earth is not a supernatural spook ? ) I would suggest to your supporters that all they are chasing or suggesting as being supernatural is a highly evolving relative to our homo genus ,1 they have hair that changes colour to suit prominent surrounds (similar to the Preditor ) 2 . Master bushman and survival expert 3.Has developed advanced senses including the ability to project infra sound and infra sound suggestion ,this in itself can make things appear to not be there when in fact they are still standing right in front of you .This point by itself blows the supernatural idea out of the water .It can also explain why we can't get a clear photo,or camera's stop working ,malfunction etc.I think they feel you believe in spooks and pray on it.You are being led on by something that is more advanced than you.However I no that you will come back with an unreal c**p come back supporting your theories.P.S .try and make a reply that has a solid argument no orbs or spooks please.Just one more thing these folks are spiritual and do sense your intentions or ill intent so be carefull.
Said like a person suffering from "paranormal Bigfoot phobia", where they concoct a seemingly unending list of false rationalization and phony facts in order to keep themselves from experiencing an adverse emotional reaction from the realization that the Yowie have full capability of invisibility, while standing within an arms reach. Your infrasound allegation has no experimental or factual basis that anyone is aware of in the U.S. that I know of. Please provide the proof of this claimed "point" that appears to be fabricated BS in order to alleviate the symptoms of "paranormalBigfootphobia". Infrasound cause funny feelings, unconsciousness, and/or puking your guts out. None of which qualifies as not being able to see a large hairy bipeds standing only a few feet away and about to knock your block off. Your post reads like one which can be produced by a US Federal government paid DISINFORMATION ARTIST, of which I know of several by first name and are moles in the research community. You appear to be one of those, especially given your lack of supporting evidence. In your rush to shout down my suggestion of a simple but expensive field experiment where each and every person can control his own field experiment conditions and be free to reach his own conclusions, without you towering over them to tell them how to think, you brought in "orbs and spooks" into the conversation in a futile attempt to discourage interested parties. This would be a technique that a trained DISINFORMATION ARTIST would use because the local government just cannot have the hidden truth become public knowledge regarding paranormal beings walking this planet. I never mentioned orbs nor spooks. Furthermore, just because an invisible Yowie left behind some visible hairs that are no longer within the vibrational effect of their 4th dimensional bodies, does not even remotely imply that the Yowies do not have the capability of invisibility. So your hair argument is BS. In conclusion, you failed to provide any logical or factual argument to support your opinion, and further failed to guide us to verifiable proof on the internet, that backs up your obvious fabrications. Lastly, this is the Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter section of the forum. You must have got lost and ventured in here mistakenly because, whereas I offered an opportunity for readers to reach their own conclusions based on their own field experiment, you providing them with false reasoning due to you total lack of understanding of the capabilities of the subject matter and then told them how to think. Good day mate.

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Re: Cloaking?

Unread post by sensesonfire » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:10 am

rodbenfield59 wrote:The Manfromglad well you have out done yourself this time you have explained to yourself what you don't understand and pass it of as a paranormal being or infestation a Dr Johnson supporter i would suspect.Why can't you admit that these beings are just more bush savey than you or your followers.Well above the experience of any special forces camouflage tactic ,with far superior DNA which is evolving to a new species out of a need to survive along with homo sapiens.Please try our research methods and you will see they are real and complete beings .The hair samples that have been collected are opaque and just suppose there hair is like a Polar bear ,ie Polar bear skin is dark coloured but guess what the hair appears white (the largest bear species on the Earth is not a supernatural spook ? ) I would suggest to your supporters that all they are chasing or suggesting as being supernatural is a highly evolving relative to our homo genus ,1 they have hair that changes colour to suit prominent surrounds (similar to the Preditor ) 2 . Master bushman and survival expert 3.Has developed advanced senses including the ability to project infra sound and infra sound suggestion ,this in itself can make things appear to not be there when in fact they are still standing right in front of you .This point by itself blows the supernatural idea out of the water .It can also explain why we can't get a clear photo,or camera's stop working ,malfunction etc.I think they feel you believe in spooks and pray on it.You are being led on by something that is more advanced than you.However I no that you will come back with an unreal c**p come back supporting your theories.P.S .try and make a reply that has a solid argument no orbs or spooks please.Just one more thing these folks are spiritual and do sense your intentions or ill intent so be carefull.

I think you are leaving yourself very vulnerable when you start comparing Yowies/Bigfoot to Hollywood movies ..... Quote: (I would suggest to your supporters that all they are chasing or suggesting as being supernatural is a highly evolving relative to our homo genus ,1 they have hair that changes colour to suit prominent surrounds (similar to the Preditor ) 2 .) Unquote. I am presuming you mean the movie Predator 2. if so, you do realize that Bigfoot in the US has been seen in the pixelated form many times just like the predator in the movie so that to me smacks of the paranormal. Who knows? maybe they're related.
Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream.

Edgar Allan Poe.

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Re: Cloaking?

Unread post by Yowie bait » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:31 am

There is an Aussie predator style cloaking video on youtube . I've watched it numerous times and seen nothing. Fortunately for you all, i cant link videos..
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Re: Cloaking?

Unread post by rodbenfield59 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:11 am

Ok i should not use the word Predator and no offence but pixilation is seen by a camera lens ,how about adaptive camouflage and to leave myself wide open to fact thats a good one as that is what we are chasing .The end goal for me is to be able to make people aware that they exist so we can all get along,if we accumulate enough data science will have to give in and concede that they are real.However at the moment because they are cryptid to the public when they are rarely seen or stumbled across we run the risk of aggressive encounters .If we all do our jobs write they will become recognized and we can co exist with a new species.

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Re: Cloaking?

Unread post by Yowie bait » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:11 pm

Yeah i guess the uninformed people dont realise theres anything out there that they can piss off so bad with normal human activities like motor bikes, noise, smoke etc or just by being in their area.

Could be anything depending on the individual yowie or even a previous bad experience with humans. A bit of information or education would go a long way. Of course proving they exist as Rod says would be a good start!
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