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Trailcams & IR light video

Unread post by AustralopithecineOz » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:56 am

I wonder about this a lot. Can they see IR? Food for thought in this vid by Scott Carpenter in the US. New video that can't be embeded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bkkJ0eJgPY

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Unread post by glenmore79 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:18 pm

been covered ad nauseam

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Unread post by Ray Doherty » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:17 am

I thought it was pretty interesting, good to know
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Unread post by AustralopithecineOz » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:25 am

glenmore79 wrote:been covered ad nauseam
Really? I thought it a pretty good representation of IR viewing IR. I'd never seen that before... Why bother commenting mate... Read the title and avoid those posts if you know everything about them... Just a suggestion.

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Unread post by Ants77 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:38 pm

Hey Aust,
How bright was that light !!!!!! No wonder trail cams have trouble. Very interesting thanks for the link.

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Unread post by AustralopithecineOz » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:44 pm

Ants77 wrote:Hey Aust,
How bright was that light !!!!!! No wonder trail cams have trouble. Very interesting thanks for the link.

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Thanks Ants that was my thoughts... I don't know if they can see IR or not but if they can, and I saw that, I wouldn't go near it either.

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Unread post by didgmaster » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:13 pm

Thanks for that Aust- Imagine how much that light would hurt your eyes if you were able to see clearly in the pitch black of night ! If they can see IR the light would stand out like an elephant in your lounge room..

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Unread post by Ants77 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Aust,

Definitely........

With that in mind, even those Yowie's that haven't been exposed to such technology would see this a mile away like a set of spot lights.
Which brings me to my next conundrum, what do we do now ? Use the same tech but during the day maybe. Passive hardware, basic simplistic set ups ? In the clip the researcher touches on them being able to hear the equipment.

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Unread post by andrew » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:11 am

Ants77 wrote:Aust,

Definitely........

With that in mind, even those Yowie's that haven't been exposed to such technology would see this a mile away like a set of spot lights.
Which brings me to my next conundrum, what do we do now ? Use the same tech but during the day maybe. Passive hardware, basic simplistic set ups ? In the clip the researcher touches on them being able to hear the equipment.

Cheers

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Simple Ants. Trailcams in daylight only. FLIR'S only at night. No, IR illumination at night.

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Unread post by AustralopithecineOz » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:15 pm

andrew wrote:
Ants77 wrote:Aust,

Definitely........

With that in mind, even those Yowie's that haven't been exposed to such technology would see this a mile away like a set of spot lights.
Which brings me to my next conundrum, what do we do now ? Use the same tech but during the day maybe. Passive hardware, basic simplistic set ups ? In the clip the researcher touches on them being able to hear the equipment.

Cheers

Ants.
Simple Ants. Trailcams in daylight only. FLIR'S only at night. No, IR illumination at night.
Certainly seems that way to me...

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Unread post by yowiedan » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:11 am

always thought about getting one of those trail cameras,but after this post i think not.thanks aust for posting it saved me some cash.

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Unread post by Rastus » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:04 am

Please forgive my ignorance as I know next to nothing about Trailcams, but dont they have no IR light illumination until tripped thereby illuminating the subject? If it continuously had IR illumination that would chew through the battery power? I hear of people leaving them out for weeks. If they only illuminate when tripped then a subject surely wouldnt see it until the switch was hit as it were?

All this technology sure has its benefits but in my opinion a blurred / distant/ half concealed / blobsquatch is never going to be a substitute for seeing one with the MK1 standard issue eyeball :)

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Unread post by andrew » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Rastus wrote:Please forgive my ignorance as I know next to nothing about Trailcams, but dont they have no IR light illumination until tripped thereby illuminating the subject? If it continuously had IR illumination that would chew through the battery power? I hear of people leaving them out for weeks. If they only illuminate when tripped then a subject surely wouldnt see it until the switch was hit as it were?

All this technology sure has its benefits but in my opinion a blurred / distant/ half concealed / blobsquatch is never going to be a substitute for seeing one with the MK1 standard issue eyeball :)
And a yowie wondering where he can see the flash of light into the night from a camera triggering from wind blown foliage, a flying insect or a passing roo, will soon learn to stay away. Not worth the risk because anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it will deter them. The best answer is a zoom lens on a good day camera and you may just get lucky as you wander the bush. Even then you only get an image which may or may not convince those who not inclined to believe in them. An image does however tell you that they are around, regardless if it is a FLIR, trailcam or Hi Res camera. The million dollar shot, while very nice, does little to "prove" they actually exist beyond reasonable doubt. That is because, apart from other issues, images can be cleverly manipulated these days. Sad but true. Mind you, good images will provide us with some detail of their anatomy and physiology. Only dna or a specimen will prove they exist imho.

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