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Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by MW83 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:19 am

Is this how the yowies are able to remain undetected, by having a natural ability to bend light around themselves?

https://www.newswire.com/news/hyperstea ... k-21010342


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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:35 pm

Hyper stealth is interesting. But i dont believe yowies are cloaking (if they can cloak) by manipulating light around themselves. Hair doesn't have the abilities of metamaterials which can bend light around nano sized resonant circuits built into a mesh (more or less) and perform transformation optics .

Which isn't to say that nature cant evolve nanotechnology that manipulates light. Flowers utilize nanotechnology to attract bees via iridesance. By creating glowing blue halos around their petals. They achieve this by having microscopic grooves in the wax that coats the surface of the flower petals. These microscopic grooves reflect specific wavelengths (colours) of light that are beneficial to attracting bees for pollination. The blue halo. Bees see predominantly in blue. To picture this think of the underside of a dvd and how it scatters a rainbow of light. The indentations on the dvd scatter different wavelengths of light depending on the angle. Well nature evolved the way on some flowers to do the same thing hut for specific colours only. The colour of iridescence determined by evolutionary needs.

What if bigfoot does something similar with their hair follicles to scatter light in a way beneficial to camouflage? Here's a hypothesis.... The cuticle of yowie hair follicles (the part that covers the medulla and cortical) is naturally raised at intervals congruent with whatever colour of dominant wavelength the yowie evolved in. Oils and wax secreted and coating these raised cuticles and grooves are iridescent say in the same spectrum as the surrounding dirt or bark.

Iridescence is an evolutionary tool animals, especially bugs utilize to camouflage themselves. The iridescence helps to mask the shape and outline of the bugs to confuse predators from recognizing the light as a shape of their prey. And thus the prey is overlooked, ignored and not detected.

Maybe yowies do something similar as the above proposed mechanism to subtly break up their contours and silhouette. And then with the added tool of remaining very still our human eyes are conned into not recognizing and ultimately overlooking them. The effect wouldn't have to be spectacular like with the iridescence in a beetles shell or that of an abalone. Just subtle in one dominant wavelength (colour) that blends in with their natural habitat. Yowie from dry scrub areas might be iridecent in khacki and tans, others in lusher environment maybe brows and reds to match bark and the shadows of foliage.

Another idea is that maybe the pigmentation in yowie fur is missing rendering the follical semi translucent. Which then picks up the natural colours of its surroundings regardless of where they are. Helping to camouflage them.

I still believe that to fool humans yowies dont need any fancy evolutionary camouflage tricks. Simple bushcraft techniques that special forces and hunters use to minimize their presence and signature are probably all thats needed. Bigfoots are simply just pretty ninja. No paraphysic interdimensional
ufo hopping cloaking yowies need apply.

Dont evrn get me started on metamaterials and ufology "disclosure" i couod rant about that tangentially connected topic for hours.

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Unread post by rowbe » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:38 pm

There are certain animals (primarily fish from what I have heard) that utilise a form of "chemical camouflage" to either hunt prey or hide from predators.

Bassplyr, your hypothesis is interesting! I agree though that in most cases unless the hairy moves we probably wouldn't see one. Also, for the average Joe unless they make themselves known, no one would even notice one in the bush.

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Unread post by Tonyk777 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:01 pm

As sound and light are essentially different frequencies perhaps inftrasound that Yowies are suspected of manipulating has some effect on perceived visibility of the viewer..

Besides highly developed stealth they may have a "super" power.

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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Sound and light are frequencies but theyre not related in the way you're thinking.

Light is the frequency and wavelength of electro magnetic radiation. The slower frequencies are radio then microwave as the frequency begins to speed up and the wavelengths get shorter. Then theres infrared next then eventually visible light that we can see with our own eyes. As the frequency speeds up even further it becomes ultraviolet, xrays and then the super fast gamma rays.

Sound is a wave too. A wave of energy (usually kinetic ) vibrating a medium whether its solid, liquid or gas. But it still needs a medium of particles to transfer the energy through in a wave pattern. Sound doesnt propagate in space because theres not enough particles in proximity to transfer the energy wave and continue the vibration. However, since electromagnetic waves are propagated through a combination of electric and magnetic fields as the medium, it has no problem travelling through space.

Interestingly infra sound is resonant with the fluid in your eyeball (according to NASA) and can theoretically blur your vision. Maybe thats a factor in yowie sightings.

Here's a link about sone spooky stuff infrasound can do including seeing ghostly images.

https://neuroresearchproject.com/2013/02/19/1289/

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Unread post by JohnnyAnonymous » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:05 pm

bassplyr wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:12 pm
Interestingly infra sound is resonant with the fluid in your eyeball (according to NASA) and can theoretically blur your vision. Maybe thats a factor in yowie sightings.
Didn't know about the resonant "according to NASA'... but I do like the theory. I've often marveled at the sea creatures that create an ear-cracking sound that knocks out their prey.

(claps hands) decent theory there bassplyr
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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:35 pm

Hey Johnnyanonymous,

If youre the same guy as from that other site its good to see you over here. Yeah infrasound can do some pretty interesting things to people. The link i provided goes into some pretty interesting stuff.

Speaking of underwater oddities. The mantis shrimp can punch so fast that it creates hot plasma that knocks its prey out. Plasma is pretty interesting.

https://www.wired.com/story/shrimp-plasma/

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Unread post by JohnnyAnonymous » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:15 pm

bassplyr wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:35 pm
Hey Johnnyanonymous,

If youre the same guy as from that other site its good to see you over here. Yeah infrasound can do some pretty interesting things to people.
And indeed I am (just got the profile pic fixed). Figure I've been a lurker here for too long, time to become legit and sign up.

Yeau some of them shrimp have a blow the equivalent of a 22cal bullet fired.

I've always maintained that geography and evolution could certainly have equipped the BiPedals with what some might liken to the 'Woo factor' simply because we can't.. or we won't try to understand the science behind some of these events. And that's what I think it is with a number of these claims/reports. It's just a form of science we're not fully cognizant of .... and maybe thats our Human side conflicting with whats presented.


But I sincerely don't know (even on my conjecture), so here I am trying to suck up as many different trains of thought.
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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:42 am

Excellent! Glad to see you here! I've always enjoyed your posts. You have the combination of an open mind coupled with a broad array of interests in these subjects packaged in a presentation of genuine modesty, warmth and friendliness. You're a veteran of the varsity team in the world of paranormal and conspiracy and a great compliment to yowiehunters with your presence here. Drop by more often!

Yowiehunters has the absolute best research(ers), witness accounts and serious discussions regarding the Australian yowie that you'll find anywhere on the internet. Plus if you haven't already, i recommend signing up for the Yowie Times. Its a well produced monthly online newsletter/magazine with excellent articles. I believe if you message member YowieDan he can get you on the email list.

I think you have a very valid and likely observation regarding the "woo factor" associated with much of this genre.

In my opinion, there has got to be some sound science behind all of it. Whether its a chimaera of novel physics creating exotic wonders in the ufo field thats completely misidentified and associated onto other things, or the misunderstood behaviour and bush tactics of our favorite furry friends. Heck theres even a possible quantum mechanism linking the brains anatomy and psychic paranormal phenomena. One of the main factors making the scientific underpinning elusive and seeming like "woo" is the human factor for people to see what they want to believe instead of for what it actually is. In my opinion this leads to people going down false rabbit holes and coming to incorrect conclusions.

Getting back on to the discussion of invisibility cloaks and infrasound. I think infrasound is a good candidate to explain much of the reported qualities observed in many yowie and sasquatch cases. The creatures are certainly big enough to generate it and it doesnt take much amplitude for the infrasound to begin effecting a subject. Just look at the incident in the link i provided. A simple lose fan blade in a lab air extractor duct was enough to create infrasound powerful enough to induce hallucinations and instill a sense of dread and foreboding. Granted in the case in the link the infrasound was amplified due to the laboratory room being resonant with the sound frequency created by the wobbly fan blade. But, Im willing to bet a sasquatch or yowie huffing and puffing can do even better.

Are yowie and sasquatch using infrasound to either create a sense of foreboding to repel competing predators after the same prey or unwanted interlopers in their territory? Possibly using infrasound like a tiger does to stun prey before pouncing? Its a definite possibility. Although Im not sure I've seen any scientific evidence in the form of infrasound recordings attributed to yowie or sasquatch. I know of one researcher who claims to record sasquatch infrasound in the states, but his credibility is lacking especially since his microphone rig used for recording infrasound physically wouldn't capture infrasound. I've ran his rigs descriptions past very good physicists who have both given the design a thumbs down.

But i still think infrasound is a good candidate to describe what people are reporting in yowie and sasquatch cases. It could possibly blur or interfere with human vision making the yowie hard to spot or directly observe. With the right mindset that could be construed as the yowie doing something paraphysical leading to dimension hopping, mystical and ethereal conjecture.

Low amplitude infrasound at the lower end of the spectrum (around 7hz i think) can cause a sense of fear and make people want to flee an area. A yowie could perhaps create this at a distance so if you were in the general vicinity you'd leave his territory. At higher amplitudes (volume) at the same frequency and presumably much closer to the creature it can potentially create nausea in people.

Infrasound at 19 hz can vibrate the fluid in the eye blurring vision. But it needs to be at high amplitude. So for that trick to work you'd have to be fairly close to the yowie. It might explain some cases of yowies vanishing before your eyes but the problem is all your vision goes blurry not just the yowie.

But there could be a different interaction between the brain, ears and vision going on with infrasound thats more exciting and could possibly explain why people see yowie vanish before their eyes. Oscillatory infrasonic modulation of the cochlear amplifier in the ear and how it effects selective attention between auditory and visual stimuli.

Here's a link to a study on the subject for those who want to learn more about the mechanism in detail.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0208939

Basically it works like this. The brain is bombarded at any moment by sensory stimuli. More than the brain can process. It has to filter the stimuli in order to focus its selective attention on one of them. Scientists have discovered that due to neurological pathways connecting the visual cortex and the auditory areas of the brain that if you focus on something visually it tends to "mute" the auditory stimuli and vice versa. Essentially, when you are focusing on something visually the brain is sending neurological oscillations (brainwaves) through the visual cortex at 7-10 hz. Through entrainment, these neuron oscillations cascade down into the auditory part of the brain to the nerves that connect to the tiny hairs in your cochlea in the inner ear that are responsible for detecting sound. (Sound waves make the hairs vibrate creating a signal in the connected nerves at the appropriate sound frequency and send it to your brain) since the signal is the same as the frequency of infrasound ( 7-10hz in this case)which the ear cant "hear" it overrides the signals the hairs make in response to audible sound. And you dont perceive sound in an audible range when this happens. It explains why when youre transfixed on something visually, like in a life threatening situations or especially compelling sightings people report not hearing any sound. Its being muted through this interplaying mechanism that connects the auditory and visual cortex.

The important part. Scientists discovered the muting process works in reverse between the ear and the eyes too. So if a infrasound stimuli to the cochlea is strong enough, it cascades upwards through the nerves into the visual cortex. The brain has to focus on one or the other and if at the moment the sound is a stronger neurological stimuli the selective attention will go to the ears and not the eyes. Creating a blind spot to what your directly looking and trying to focus your visual attention on.

Could yowies, under the right circumstances, override the visual attention of humans through use of infrasound making it so your brain simply disregards them and doesnt report the visual stimuli at the center of your visual cortexes attention up the chain to the thalamus and, via that, your conscious attention? Its not a bad hypothesis if there ever was one.

Best part is the yowie doesnt have to be aware this actually happens to their subjects. It might be a happy coincidence and side effect from a tool they use for hunting or dissuading rival predators from their territory. Using infrasound to stun or repel subjects.

Another thing in regards to infrasound. Yowies dont need to actually produce infrasound to make the brain preceive infrasound. A pair of yowie working in tandem could create the perception of infrasound too. When two tones are produced simultaneously, that are slightly different frequencies. The difference between the frequencies (phase) is also detected by the brain. This third frequency (the product of the phase between the two tones) could be in the infrasound range. Its possible yowies can create audible sound at much higher volume and power than infrasound giving them another method and tool for projecting infrasound in their subjects. I presume though the subject would be well aware of the racket the yowies were making and report this as part of their sighting.

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Unread post by JohnnyAnonymous » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:41 pm

bassplyr wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:42 am
Excellent! Glad to see you here! I've always enjoyed your posts. You have the combination of an open mind coupled with a broad array of interests in these subjects packaged in a presentation of genuine modesty, warmth and friendliness. You're a veteran of the varsity team in the world of paranormal and conspiracy and a great compliment to yowiehunters with your presence here. Drop by more often!

Yowiehunters has the absolute best research(ers), witness accounts and serious discussions regarding the Australian yowie that you'll find anywhere on the internet. Plus if you haven't already, i recommend signing up for the Yowie Times. Its a well produced monthly online newsletter/magazine with excellent articles. I believe if you message member YowieDan he can get you on the email list.
Many thanks for the warm welcome!

My recent research happens to coincide with the Yowie BiPedals... so it only makes sense that I'd (finally) sign up and quit lurking.

I sent YowieDan an message, hopefully I can get on the list.. thanks!
I think you have a very valid and likely observation regarding the "woo factor" associated with much of this genre.

In my opinion, there has got to be some sound science behind all of it. Whether its a chimaera of novel physics creating exotic wonders in the ufo field thats completely misidentified and associated onto other things, or the misunderstood behaviour and bush tactics of our favorite furry friends. Heck theres even a possible quantum mechanism linking the brains anatomy and psychic paranormal phenomena.
I have also conversed/discussed this exact same thought with my colleagues. It has been suggested that (perhaps) even in the UFO Abduction scenario's that a form of Infrasound may be used to 'sedate; (for the lack of a better word) the target/witness trying to keep them calm.

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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:14 pm

Maybe thats why the occupants wear big freaky helmets. To keep the infrasound at bay.

But perhaps in real ufo cases where people feel paralyzed or instantly fall unconscious or helpless theres another mechanism going that interferes neurologically with the subject. Perhaps a side effect of the drive field. The old permeability/permittivity debate you've probably seen raised before. Then again maybe that's really why the occupants wear big freaky helmets. So they dont become afoul of the drives side effects.

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Unread post by JohnnyAnonymous » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:14 pm

bassplyr wrote:
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But perhaps in real ufo cases where people feel paralyzed or instantly fall unconscious or helpless theres another mechanism going that interferes neurologically with the subjects.
Thats an interesting thought... Can't help but recall one of my "event's with something" where while I was listening to the guttural Samuari chattering, I was incapable of reaching towards 3 Cameras and one Audio recorder. And I really don't believe I was afraid at anytime (amazed/excited yes). But I've shot/captured in really spooky/paranormal based arena's and had no problem at al grabbing a device.

I've often wondered about the "why" many times. So am interested in yours (or anyone for that matter) thought.

BTW: (as I reread the thread again)... You said earlier; "Another idea is that maybe the pigmentation in yowie fur is missing rendering the follical semi translucent. Which then picks up the natural colours of its surroundings regardless of where they are. Helping to camouflage them."

After an interview (years back) with Nick Redfern, I asked him on the Translucent Hair concept and he wouldn't just say yes or no to the query. And I agree with some of his hesitation as Geography and Climate would certainly play a role in that particular scenario. Just as i have to believe that Yowie, the American Sasquatch and other bipedals may be similarly related, they certainly have gone down separate path's (evolution-wise).

But myself... I sort of like the idea (camoflage-hair).

And I have to admit that my likes and dislikes change often depending on new information (or positive corroboration on older ideas). To me when it comes to Mr. BiPedal, there is a smorgsabord of ideas and theories. And no matter how strange something might sound to me, I have to keep the mind open and let Common Sense and Occam's Razor do the heavy-lifting! All it takes is one good jigsaw piece to open up and reveal the larger picture.

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Unread post by bassplyr » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:02 am

Hey Johnny I've never heard your samurai chatter story before. Mid be interested in hearing more about it

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bassplyr wrote:
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Hey Johnny I've never heard your samurai chatter story before. Mid be interested in hearing more about it
Sure...

I was up visiting the CryptoHunter John Rhodes up in Mariposa, CA. (USA), something I used to regularly do several times a month for a few years while compiling some field research. I was very interested in this area because of the the vocalizations captured by Ron Morehead (Sierra Sounds) and journalist Al Berry on a tape recorder back in the 70's, (remember those analog recording devices?).https://bigfootbase.com/bigfoot-evidenc ... rra-sounds

John was in the process of purchasing some land in the Mountain area just North of Mariposa for the possible building of a Crypto Research Center. The area of interest was almost 40 acres large and included several small creeks. The location was full of Tree's, deer and other wildlife.
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The transaction was not completed yet and we were still surveying the area and we came across a number of unusual things including twisted and torn branches, deer legs, huge amounts of eaten Acorn-nut's and what we thought might also be nesting spots.
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On this one particular day, John had to go back in to town (Mariposa, about a 20 minutes drive perhaps) and left me there by myself (this would've been around 5:30pm maybe). Shortly after his leaving, I was resting/sitting half in the cab of my 4-wheel vehicle, my gear sitting in the passenger seat within a foot's reach (perhaps) when I heard some people talking just on a bluff about 100+ feet up and overhead.

I wondered "where did these people come from, were they hiking down from on top of the Mountain side?" That didn't make any sense because of the angle and location. Were these people that had hiked behind us over land and somehow ended up on this side of the property and maybe they were lost?

The sounds were strange because it sounded like two deep-sounding people talking in Japanese/Samuari and occasionally with English words. Even though it was very guttural-sounding, I think I could make out that one was a male and one was a female (conjecture). But it was definitely sounding more and more like a very bad Samauri "B-Movie". I thought how weird it was that I was hearing anything at all in that spot as the nearest other residence was a few miles down the road (the other way). Maybe it was because of this that the language wasn't quickly detectable because of it maybe bouncing off the Walls of the Mountain (as I try and make sense of it all)?

That still didn't resonate with me as a proper answer so I continued listening and now it not only sounded louder, but there was clearly (what I presumed) now an argument between the two. And the Male(?) was clearly upset about something and now crashes and bangs accompanied the conversation.

Now if I had been in my right-frame of mind, as soon as I thought something was off, my natural instinct would've been to grab a camera, a recorder (whatever) and start recording. I could easily erase it if it was nothing at all, but my training has always been to record everything, then eliminate as needed. But I didn't do anything even after a minute of this going on, and even after I had concluded that this wasn't two humans talking... my brain raced around, was this possibly Sasquatch?

Close to 4-5 minutes of deep chatter and I've still not reached over 12 inches to grab a device even though I was fairly certain now that this was a very unusual event and I should record it. I did nothing.

Then it all stopped and I sat waiting, hoping that I would hear something again, but alas no.

I was torn and confused about what to do for a good 60 minutes (or so), and I just sat in the Truck cab. And when John returned, I was still sitting in the cab... hadn't moved an inch. I told him about what I had heard, and still in the back of my mind I kept asking myself why I didn't do a thing, I just couldn't wrap myself around the point that I failed to record any of it. Even John said after I told him about it said, "Let me hear what you recorded", because he knew I recorded everything when we were out in the field. I had to hang my head down and admit I had nothing, he found that hard to believe as he would get on me all the time for recording every little thing we did. "Your just wasting the battery and video-tape" he'd say (remember video tape.. lol).

Anyway, there you go... that's the shorten version,
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Re: Real life invisibility cloak

Unread post by bassplyr » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:25 am

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing it.

I wouldn't feel bad about not recording anything. I've had similar experience with failing to grab the recorder when i should have. I think often when something absolutely compelling is going on its natural to stand there transfixed and forget all the sensible things you were planning on doing in response.

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Unread post by JohnnyAnonymous » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:12 am

bassplyr wrote:
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.... I think often when something absolutely compelling is going on its natural to stand there transfixed and forget all the sensible things you were planning on doing in response.
Yeau maybe for the general public.

But I've done so many weird cases that I generally have the camera/recorder running before we ever get to the spot of interest (as I like to document everything). So this is highly unusual for me as I've been in much stranger situations that scared the 'bejezus out of me' yet I always had the camera rolling.

... and why didn't I run up the bluff/hill to see maybe where the voices were coming from?

Anyway, thats my version of the 'one that got away' (oops)
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