No-where to run?

[Wolf]

https://youtu.be/ol3tAxnNccY

[Black]

Just one of the latest conspiracy theories.

There were conspiracy theories prior to 4g communications, and even 3g communications.

For every one of these "experts" there are a thousand equally or more qualified experts, that deem the 5g technology to be quite safe.

[Simon M]

The extinction event will be our own lack of action on climate change, in my view. Humanity itself might not become extinct but life for us will be radically different within the next few decades if we lose up to a million different other species as has been forecast.

I suspect that people living traditionally in remote areas across the world will be more well equipped to endure the changes to come than most of us who live in towns and cities.

[Black]

All gloom and doom....

[Mad Academic]

The extinction event will be our own lack of action on climate change, in my view. Humanity itself might not become extinct but life for us will be radically different within the next few decades if we lose up to a million different other species as has been forecast.

I suspect that people living traditionally in remote areas across the world will be more well equipped to endure the changes to come than most of us who live in towns and cities.

Yeah sure. The bloody climate has been changing ever since the earth was formed! What about all the climate changes that took place well before the Industrial Revolution...what's your explanation for those?
And 99% of all species that ever evolved are extinct. Trying to "hold" the climate in one "position" is a fool's errand.

[Simon M]

The extinction event will be our own lack of action on climate change, in my view. Humanity itself might not become extinct but life for us will be radically different within the next few decades if we lose up to a million different other species as has been forecast.

I suspect that people living traditionally in remote areas across the world will be more well equipped to endure the changes to come than most of us who live in towns and cities.

Yeah sure. The bloody climate has been changing ever since the earth was formed! What about all the climate changes that took place well before the Industrial Revolution...what's your explanation for those?
And 99% of all species that ever evolved are extinct. Trying to "hold" the climate in one "position" is a fool's errand.

Your comment doesn't reflect what I said. Look at what I wrote and tell me where I made any of the assertions you've attacked me for having made. Mass extinctions will affect life on Earth. It's a simple fact. I never claimed mass extinctions haven't happened in the past. We all know they have. The climate has changed - gradually - in the past but it wasn't due to human activity, and that's because human beings haven't existed for most of the Earth's history.

I'm not going to argue with you - or anyone - on this forum about anything. Arguing about any topic online is pretty much the most pointless exercise I can imagine.

It's the scientific consensus at this point that carbon pollution has altered the Earth's atmosphere. You don't need to be a climate expert to see that human activity is causing changes - look at how many old growth forests we continue to rip down on a daily basis in pursuit of money. Are you claiming that the removal of those forests has zero effect on the species that live there, or on the environment as a whole? Notice I'm genuinely and respectfully asking you to explain what you mean, not just having a go at you.

We're having an effect on things. It's not an opinion.

Think what you like, but I won't attack you for your opinions. It's the attitude that disagreement equals the right to go on the attack that's ruining democracies across the world. Look at Trump. Look at 'ScoMo' - it's the triumph of the loudmouthed bully on a worldwide scale. I won't be a part of it, and I won't attack anyone even if they attack me.

Just ask yourself, Mad Academic, why it might be that the people who make massive profits from the fossil fuel industry might want to continue doing so, and in whose interests it might be to call scientifically factual viewpoints into question? I ask you this as a fellow Academic...I'd expected better of you, and this forum, but it's become pointless trying to discuss anything here if this is the standard of debate.

[Simon M]

All gloom and doom....

Just someone expressing a considered opinion rather than shooting off an uninspired one liner.

But everyone's good at different things, aren't they?

[Black]

For someone who views arguing online a pointless exercise, Simon M, you sure enjoy arguing your pompous "considered opinion."

So, you think the commencement of 5g technology will be the start of an extinction event on Earth, caused by climate change? Mate, doom and gloom is a highly 'inspired' one liner in response to your unsupported tripe.

I don't know how you think 5g implementation will affect carbon emissions, but an increasing number of countries are declaring plans to hit net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. Of bigger concern to a doom and gloomer, should be whether earth can sustain humans at current population increase rates, by 2030.

[Simon M]

For someone who views arguing online a pointless exercise, Simon M, you sure enjoy arguing your pompous "considered opinion."

So, you think the commencement of 5g technology will be the start of an extinction event on Earth, caused by climate change? Mate, doom and gloom is a highly 'inspired' one liner in response to your unsupported tripe.

I don't know how you think 5g implementation will affect carbon emissions, but an increasing number of countries are declaring plans to hit net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. Of bigger concern to a doom and gloomer, should be whether earth can sustain humans at current population increase rates, by 2030.

Quote the post where I said any of that.

Black, you accusing anyone on this forum of being pompous is comedy gold. I love that you see your own posts as being inspired. That's cute.

I said we're having an effect. That's the scientific consensus. I mentioned that as well. I specifically mentioned deforestation and species loss in relation to climate science. There's a mass extinction event predicted by scientists in the near future. Animals are already becoming extinct, etc. But sure...have a go at me for stuff I didn't say if it gives you a hard on, champ.

Read what I wrote and attack me based on that if you desperately need to - and we can all see how much you love attacking people who disagree with you since you do it in every other post - that's fair enough. Your standards are slipping, though. You're the second least impressive troll on this board after that sensesonfire bloke...and that's saying something because his whole routine is extremely pedestrian. I'd expected a better standard of insult from you, Black. It's disappointing to see you sink to this level.

You guys have fun - if expressing an opinion is pomposity then we're all guilty of it. No one here has any actual facts or empirical data, do they?

[Black]

Simon M, this isn't some conspiratard site where you can post any piece of s#@t you like and it will go unchallenged. If you wish to visit such a site, you can ask wolf for directions.

If not, and you wish to argue the merit of a doom and gloom conspiracy theory, then support it with some evidence and for God sake, attack the idea and not the man. Evidence and attacking ideas only is what keeps it civil and raises the level of a debate.

My position is clear, the 5g video is part of a conspiracy theory.

[Black]

The 5g conspiracy theories originate in Russia. Russia is behind the 8 ball when it comes to 5g technology, so it is trying to slow down it's implementation in the rest of the world using scare tactics.

The scare tactics label the technology as 5g apocalypse and warn that the higher frequencies will be dangerous to living organisms, linking it to brain cancer, infertility, autism, heart tumors, Alzheimer's disease.

According to analysts, whichever country dominates the new technology, will have a competitive edge.

Scientists say the opposite to the conspiracies. Scientists say the 5g frequencies will be safer than previous communications generations because they can't penetrate the skin as easily as low frequency radio waves. Furthermore, they are being used in the medical industry.

Additionally, the doom and gloom conspiracies fail to mention we are all surrounded by radiation all the time. It's in our own bodies, in the ground, in the food - we can't escape it already.

[TheBlackStump]

5g microwave technology has been used as a miliatary grade weapon for over half a century.

5g is a real health concern for all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNk9NCe-VyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckRUKjVx0TA

[Wolf]

Have to agree with Simon.
Humans are definitely having an effect... which is NOT saying climate change is a RESULT of human activity. The sun has far more say in the matter than puny humans ever will, despite their egos claiming they are some mightily planet destroying creature. This planet will likely be here long after humans have been forgotten by whatever life remains.

Throughout my life I have been a 'greenie' but what passes for one these days seems way removed from what the 'movement' was all about.

But this always happens... big$ infiltrates EVERY 'movement' and with their unlimited dollars can modify any resulting legislation in their favour. Hence the growing outcry over pollution by big business became EVERYONE is at fault because of carbon emissions and global warming. Usual bait and switch tactics used to divert attention.

5G may perhaps be not as damaging as some predict... but it could be far, far worse too.

Many scientists are calling for more studies before it can be rolled out, but of course money interests steps in... No, we can't delay... we might get left behind!

The misreading and lack of comprehension of Simon's words comes as no surprise... sadly those who are rather lacking in comprehension skills never think they are.

And so it goes...

As The Saker says, "The problem today is society places far more value on the right to have an opinion than the ability to form one."

[Black]

Simon's words were understood just fine. An extinction event in the next few decades where a million species will be lost due to human inaction and climate change. Where's the research paper reference to support this opinion and elevate it from a doom and gloom prophesy?

On the issue of 5g there are two sides to be aware of.

Speaking of lack of comprehension skills, if you have an opinion about something, haven't you already proven an ability to form an opinion? Did the saker really dish up that word salad, or is it just another hollow wolf howl?

[Yowie bait]

Hmmm it must be the 5g giving the brain damage to all these elite driving around in their luxury computer cars. No wonder they dont indicate or follow any road rules whatsoever. They must be mentally retarded from the 5g and not a bunch of self important smug arrogant a holes after all.