Just thought i'd ask. Last night i was driving along a road surrounded by really thick bush. As i was driving along something dark grey ran out in front of me. I slammed on the brakes but couldnt stop in time. I was doing forty kms and what ever i hit was big enough to rip off my bumper bar bend my plate and crack the bumper really bad. But it was also small enough to not quite reach the bonnet. When it got up and ran into the bush it ran very sleak and low and i noticed its tail was rather fluffy and aslong or longer then its body.I thought this was very odd.I also thought it ran very odd.Not like a dog but more "stealthy" i guess you'd say.Ran with four legs so not a roo or anything.Any thoughts anyone? I told myself it was a dog but the tail was so long...do any dogs have tails aslong as there body? Im gonna go look where it ran into the bush and make sure it aint still there in pain.I did look but it started getting dark. I really hope it either ok or dead....i cant stop thinking about it in pain laying there or something. Yeh so any thoughts anyone? I have hit possums roos and birds and judging by my speed the damage and the fact i felt the car hit it so hard i think what ever it was was short and very built. Im stumped and sleepless so help me out peoples cheers...bowhunter
p.s i know it seems funny for someone with a name like bowhunter to worry about hurting an animal but i am a very humane hunter and if i arrow something and it runs off i will spend my entire trip trying to find it. I dont like to prolonge suffering.
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I'd say.. maybe.. a monkey? I know there's some monkeys up near Cape York. Not native or anything. There was a circus back in the 50's, and they had to shut down, and they just released the monkeys into the wild..
Only thing I can think of.
Only thing I can think of.
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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Hey, some of my posts have dissappeared...whered they go? ah well, Ill re-write it...
maybe it was a Tassie Tiger...I KINDA understood your story...I think a TT has a tail which is longer than its body doesnt it? or just about the same size...it runs on four feet of course...sandy colorued right? was yours dark?
maybe it was a Tassie Tiger...I KINDA understood your story...I think a TT has a tail which is longer than its body doesnt it? or just about the same size...it runs on four feet of course...sandy colorued right? was yours dark?
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Process of elimination.......
Dog? Not with a tail as long as its body.
Tassie Tiger? Not with a fluffy tail.
Big Cat? Again not likely with such a fluffy tail.
Monkey? Possibly.
Queensland marsupial Tiger? Probably not; they have/had clear black stripes and not a very long tail.
Another possibility; see http://uqconnect.net/~zzpclach/bigcatwitnesses.htm
for a sketch of the unidentified animal seen by Gary Opit. Could it have been that?
And - how long are the hairs from the front of your car? Do they still have the follicles attached? Take a tip; stick them in the freezer to preserve the DNA!
Dog? Not with a tail as long as its body.
Tassie Tiger? Not with a fluffy tail.
Big Cat? Again not likely with such a fluffy tail.
Monkey? Possibly.
Queensland marsupial Tiger? Probably not; they have/had clear black stripes and not a very long tail.
Another possibility; see http://uqconnect.net/~zzpclach/bigcatwitnesses.htm
for a sketch of the unidentified animal seen by Gary Opit. Could it have been that?
And - how long are the hairs from the front of your car? Do they still have the follicles attached? Take a tip; stick them in the freezer to preserve the DNA!
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Thats wierd. one of my messages is gone too.
Ill post it again.
Its a little far fetched but it could be a werewolve.
I've read acouple of reports.This one girl apparently emtyd an entire round of bullets on this creature and it still came after here.
Ill post it again.
Its a little far fetched but it could be a werewolve.
I've read acouple of reports.This one girl apparently emtyd an entire round of bullets on this creature and it still came after here.
Im just a simple man try'na make my way in the universe.
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Er, werewolf? Highly unlikely.
For one thing, if she did empty a whole bunch of bullets into it, next day, someone would be walking around with a f**kton of bullet wounds in them.
The second thing, just say she did encounter a werewolf. It wouldn't have let her get away. She'd be dead right now.
That's to say if werewolves exist that is..
So, it couldn't have been a werewolf. No such thing. Well, if there is, i'd like to see one. Give me a solid unknown, like, oh, say, the yowie! yay!
For one thing, if she did empty a whole bunch of bullets into it, next day, someone would be walking around with a f**kton of bullet wounds in them.
The second thing, just say she did encounter a werewolf. It wouldn't have let her get away. She'd be dead right now.
That's to say if werewolves exist that is..
So, it couldn't have been a werewolf. No such thing. Well, if there is, i'd like to see one. Give me a solid unknown, like, oh, say, the yowie! yay!
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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A circus letting it's monkeys loose up near the Cape ? Sounds a bit like a recycled urban myth. I say recycled as there was also a story of an accident involving circus trucks near Gayndah - hence the reports of the Gayndah Bear. Does anyone else have any info on either of these 2 stories ?
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Hi All,
I have heard of numerous anecdotal reports of private zoo operators and exotic pet owners releasing their charges into the bush because keeping them in care was no longer feasible/affordable/legal. I've also heard talk of escapees from various sources.
My research into various newspaper archives has turned up reports of RUMOURS of crashed circus vehicles and the like being behind mystery animal reports, but I've yet to actually turn up a report of an ACTUAL crash anywhere in Oz.
That said, it is entirely likely such an incident, if it did occur, might go unreported to avoid prosecution (in the event the animal was illegally owned, poorly secured in its cage, in poor health etc).
Ruby
I have heard of numerous anecdotal reports of private zoo operators and exotic pet owners releasing their charges into the bush because keeping them in care was no longer feasible/affordable/legal. I've also heard talk of escapees from various sources.
My research into various newspaper archives has turned up reports of RUMOURS of crashed circus vehicles and the like being behind mystery animal reports, but I've yet to actually turn up a report of an ACTUAL crash anywhere in Oz.
That said, it is entirely likely such an incident, if it did occur, might go unreported to avoid prosecution (in the event the animal was illegally owned, poorly secured in its cage, in poor health etc).
Ruby
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I do.....
The Gayndah Bear Circus story was true. The only authentic "rolled over circus truck" story that I know of.
The chased all the fast moving animals first and left the bears till last - but never managed to catch them. I have a photo of one from a couple of years ago walking through one of the properties.
The Elephants suffered broken legs and had to be put down. Due to the smell, they had to be burnt. Our good friend Brett Green was responsable for cutting off one of the Elephants skulls and hanging it in a local Scout Hall.
DMH
The Gayndah Bear Circus story was true. The only authentic "rolled over circus truck" story that I know of.
The chased all the fast moving animals first and left the bears till last - but never managed to catch them. I have a photo of one from a couple of years ago walking through one of the properties.
The Elephants suffered broken legs and had to be put down. Due to the smell, they had to be burnt. Our good friend Brett Green was responsable for cutting off one of the Elephants skulls and hanging it in a local Scout Hall.
DMH
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Dear Sir/Madam,
On reading with great interest an article headed ?Bear could put Gayndah on tourist map? in the Gympie Times today, memories of events some years ago came to mind. Perhaps I may be able to assist with the stories of the bear grabbing headlines around the country.
The bear incident remains quite clear in my mind because on hearing of a big circus truck accident, I drove up to the accident site on the Binjour Plateau to have a curious look and to take photographs ? didn?t have a car at that time so ?borrowed? my fathers ? got a real dressing down when arriving home afterwards. At the time, I was a budding photographer and 8mm moviemaker. I still have a movie showing earthquake damage to the new range highway not long after it was built ? that is another story. To the best of my knowledge, this is the correct sequence of events concerning the story of the bears.
In February/March of 1959, there had been heavy to flood rains in the Burnett region. Bullen?s Circus was moving from Mundubbera to Gayndah via the old winding Binjour Range dirt road. If my memory serves me right, a large trailer carrying lions and bears and a smaller truck carrying monkeys slid off the road and went over the side into the jungle below. In those days, the sides of the range were covered in large expanses of near impenetrable jungle vine forest.
Two escaped lions were quickly recovered. Most of the monkeys were also. Some did escape and were seen and heard for about six months later then they seemingly disappeared ? probably dying of starvation or eating poisonous forest foods and berries. Two female and one male small black (Himalayan?) bears escaped into the forest and were not recovered because of the cyclonic rains. Not much was said about their escape in the media at the time for fear of panicking local farmers or township residents eventhough the bears were harmless. It was thought they would eventually die without their special diet. There were many exaggerated sightings ?of giant bear-like creatures? in the range region during the years that followed. It became quite a joke. The bears just got bigger and bigger. They were even supposed to have mated up with local Yowies and "Bear Yowies" (bare yowies - get the joke) had been created. The stories just got wilder and wilder.
Some travellers reported ?huge? bears standing in the middle of range roads lunging and snarling at passing cars. There was even a case where a small car had been tipped over by the "Bear Yowie" with the occupant still inside unharmed. Farm dogs cowered under houses. Campers were chased away from their food supplies and their tents being torn apart. There was even one story of a teenage girl being carried off but she escaped with scratches on her arms and back. There was even a cartoon drawing circulated (I still have a copy somewhere hopefully) of a man standing in the bush relieving himself with a giant bear with a painful look on his face tapping him on the shoulder and saying ?Can I join you? I like the way you humans stand up and do it?.
The stories were endless and quite hilarious. So much so, ?jokers? erected huge signs featuring wild menacing bears on their hind legs at both ends of the range road stating ?Danger ? Wild Bears Cross Here?. It got to a stage that whenever I travelled to Mundubbera and Binjour, I would keep out a sharp eye in case one of the ?giant bears? would jump out in front of the car. Never happened I?m afraid.
The circus salvaged whatever it could from the trucks in the rain and continued to Gayndah to the large field area opposite the State School cricket/football fields (a youth hostel was later built on the same grounds). The circus people erected their big top and other facilities in the hope of staging a performance. But there was even heavier rain and the whole circus field became an impassable bog. Vehicles became bogged down everywhere. It was a real mess.
During the night, their largest elephant slipped in the mud and couldn?t get up. Cruelly but necessarily after all other efforts had failed, they applied electrical charges to get it to rise up. It finally got up only to suffer a terrible fate. The water-soaked mud caused the elephant?s all four feet to slip outwards. It fell onto its belly snapping all four legs. I can still hear the terrible sound of that poor animal?s suffering. It was quickly shot. A dozer (from the council I think) was brought in to haul the carcass away because the animal was too heavy for a crane. It wasn?t a pretty sight as it was dragged along the bitumen out of town.
Before the huge carcass was disposed of (I didn?t see the actual disposal), several members of the scout group got permission to salvage the elephant?s head. This was done with chain saws. The head was relocated elsewhere onto a bull ant?s nest (several people were involved plus myself and members of the Smith and Mellor Families). The skull disappeared from its ant?s hill location and then reappeared at the new Scout Den where it was originally planned to display the relic. I cannot remember how it was found and returned. As far as I know, the skull is still displayed on the back wall in the main room of the scout hut. At the time, the walls of the Cub and scout sections had been converted to resemble caves and cave entrances in line with the Jungle Book stories. The elephant?s head fitted in well with the concept. It was also a piece of tragic local history.
The circus by the way cancelled its performances. It rained something terrible. I think it was stranded in Gayndah for about two weeks. The townspeople rallied to help the circus people because the animals were starving (and the circus folk were nearly at the stage of begging). Farmers brought in hay bales, vegetables and other produce they could spare. Local townspeople did their best with grass clippings and home biscuits/cakes etc. Local shops, butchers, fruiterers and bakers gave what they could also. I remember it was a real community effort and no one sought the media glamour of today?s events. There was no great public appeal like they do today ? people just quietly went about their business offering their help to the circus folk. I don?t recall if the trucks on the range were ever recovered. When the circus could leave, the performers invited the whole town to a free show to thank everyone. I remember it well for the performers gave the show of their lifetime in appreciation. Sadly, the circus I believe went into liquidation not long afterwards because of its bad spate of tragedies.
On leaving Gayndah in 1964, there were still stories popping up here and there about the "giant" Binjour Plateau bears and the "Bear Yowies". I am to understand that Himalayan bears can live to around 30 years or more. It may be just possible that some offspring singular or plural may have survived after the death of their parents and subsequently surface their heads every now and then to keep the ?myth? alive.
In conclusion, there is one matter of which I must comment. I found it quite horrifying to see a reward of $10,000 being offered for its capture and $1000 being offered for its photo. The unfortunate creature or creatures if it or they still exist should be left alone to end it's days in peace instead of becoming the target for the greedy beneficiaries of a shooter?s kill. To encourage such rewards and even the promotion of such within a paper is revolting when there are so many people out there today with nothing but sawdust between the ears. All they want is the money and media fame of ?capturing? an innocent beast that has caused no harm to any person or stock. Let them live in peace. They won't do you any harm if you don't reciprocate.
In my way of thinking, there are better benefits for tourism by keeping alive a ?myth? and developing a local industry from it rather than seeing a stuffed relic in a museum ? just another reminder of man?s inhuman treatment of earth?s creatures. I hope my reminiscences will assist with your bear stories.
Brett J. Green
On reading with great interest an article headed ?Bear could put Gayndah on tourist map? in the Gympie Times today, memories of events some years ago came to mind. Perhaps I may be able to assist with the stories of the bear grabbing headlines around the country.
The bear incident remains quite clear in my mind because on hearing of a big circus truck accident, I drove up to the accident site on the Binjour Plateau to have a curious look and to take photographs ? didn?t have a car at that time so ?borrowed? my fathers ? got a real dressing down when arriving home afterwards. At the time, I was a budding photographer and 8mm moviemaker. I still have a movie showing earthquake damage to the new range highway not long after it was built ? that is another story. To the best of my knowledge, this is the correct sequence of events concerning the story of the bears.
In February/March of 1959, there had been heavy to flood rains in the Burnett region. Bullen?s Circus was moving from Mundubbera to Gayndah via the old winding Binjour Range dirt road. If my memory serves me right, a large trailer carrying lions and bears and a smaller truck carrying monkeys slid off the road and went over the side into the jungle below. In those days, the sides of the range were covered in large expanses of near impenetrable jungle vine forest.
Two escaped lions were quickly recovered. Most of the monkeys were also. Some did escape and were seen and heard for about six months later then they seemingly disappeared ? probably dying of starvation or eating poisonous forest foods and berries. Two female and one male small black (Himalayan?) bears escaped into the forest and were not recovered because of the cyclonic rains. Not much was said about their escape in the media at the time for fear of panicking local farmers or township residents eventhough the bears were harmless. It was thought they would eventually die without their special diet. There were many exaggerated sightings ?of giant bear-like creatures? in the range region during the years that followed. It became quite a joke. The bears just got bigger and bigger. They were even supposed to have mated up with local Yowies and "Bear Yowies" (bare yowies - get the joke) had been created. The stories just got wilder and wilder.
Some travellers reported ?huge? bears standing in the middle of range roads lunging and snarling at passing cars. There was even a case where a small car had been tipped over by the "Bear Yowie" with the occupant still inside unharmed. Farm dogs cowered under houses. Campers were chased away from their food supplies and their tents being torn apart. There was even one story of a teenage girl being carried off but she escaped with scratches on her arms and back. There was even a cartoon drawing circulated (I still have a copy somewhere hopefully) of a man standing in the bush relieving himself with a giant bear with a painful look on his face tapping him on the shoulder and saying ?Can I join you? I like the way you humans stand up and do it?.
The stories were endless and quite hilarious. So much so, ?jokers? erected huge signs featuring wild menacing bears on their hind legs at both ends of the range road stating ?Danger ? Wild Bears Cross Here?. It got to a stage that whenever I travelled to Mundubbera and Binjour, I would keep out a sharp eye in case one of the ?giant bears? would jump out in front of the car. Never happened I?m afraid.
The circus salvaged whatever it could from the trucks in the rain and continued to Gayndah to the large field area opposite the State School cricket/football fields (a youth hostel was later built on the same grounds). The circus people erected their big top and other facilities in the hope of staging a performance. But there was even heavier rain and the whole circus field became an impassable bog. Vehicles became bogged down everywhere. It was a real mess.
During the night, their largest elephant slipped in the mud and couldn?t get up. Cruelly but necessarily after all other efforts had failed, they applied electrical charges to get it to rise up. It finally got up only to suffer a terrible fate. The water-soaked mud caused the elephant?s all four feet to slip outwards. It fell onto its belly snapping all four legs. I can still hear the terrible sound of that poor animal?s suffering. It was quickly shot. A dozer (from the council I think) was brought in to haul the carcass away because the animal was too heavy for a crane. It wasn?t a pretty sight as it was dragged along the bitumen out of town.
Before the huge carcass was disposed of (I didn?t see the actual disposal), several members of the scout group got permission to salvage the elephant?s head. This was done with chain saws. The head was relocated elsewhere onto a bull ant?s nest (several people were involved plus myself and members of the Smith and Mellor Families). The skull disappeared from its ant?s hill location and then reappeared at the new Scout Den where it was originally planned to display the relic. I cannot remember how it was found and returned. As far as I know, the skull is still displayed on the back wall in the main room of the scout hut. At the time, the walls of the Cub and scout sections had been converted to resemble caves and cave entrances in line with the Jungle Book stories. The elephant?s head fitted in well with the concept. It was also a piece of tragic local history.
The circus by the way cancelled its performances. It rained something terrible. I think it was stranded in Gayndah for about two weeks. The townspeople rallied to help the circus people because the animals were starving (and the circus folk were nearly at the stage of begging). Farmers brought in hay bales, vegetables and other produce they could spare. Local townspeople did their best with grass clippings and home biscuits/cakes etc. Local shops, butchers, fruiterers and bakers gave what they could also. I remember it was a real community effort and no one sought the media glamour of today?s events. There was no great public appeal like they do today ? people just quietly went about their business offering their help to the circus folk. I don?t recall if the trucks on the range were ever recovered. When the circus could leave, the performers invited the whole town to a free show to thank everyone. I remember it well for the performers gave the show of their lifetime in appreciation. Sadly, the circus I believe went into liquidation not long afterwards because of its bad spate of tragedies.
On leaving Gayndah in 1964, there were still stories popping up here and there about the "giant" Binjour Plateau bears and the "Bear Yowies". I am to understand that Himalayan bears can live to around 30 years or more. It may be just possible that some offspring singular or plural may have survived after the death of their parents and subsequently surface their heads every now and then to keep the ?myth? alive.
In conclusion, there is one matter of which I must comment. I found it quite horrifying to see a reward of $10,000 being offered for its capture and $1000 being offered for its photo. The unfortunate creature or creatures if it or they still exist should be left alone to end it's days in peace instead of becoming the target for the greedy beneficiaries of a shooter?s kill. To encourage such rewards and even the promotion of such within a paper is revolting when there are so many people out there today with nothing but sawdust between the ears. All they want is the money and media fame of ?capturing? an innocent beast that has caused no harm to any person or stock. Let them live in peace. They won't do you any harm if you don't reciprocate.
In my way of thinking, there are better benefits for tourism by keeping alive a ?myth? and developing a local industry from it rather than seeing a stuffed relic in a museum ? just another reminder of man?s inhuman treatment of earth?s creatures. I hope my reminiscences will assist with your bear stories.
Brett J. Green
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No probs - it was all on the old site - plus the Grande' photo...
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Hmmm,
Perhaps I have seen the pic before then? Whereabouts would I find it on the new site? Or is it not up yet?
I know what AYR needs - a search engine on your website. You just have too much stuff
I could be here for days.
Ruby
Perhaps I have seen the pic before then? Whereabouts would I find it on the new site? Or is it not up yet?
I know what AYR needs - a search engine on your website. You just have too much stuff
I could be here for days.Ruby
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Yep, that's the story I was thinking of but couldn't remember the name of the person who wrote it. Now that I know it was Brett - well if he says it happened that's good enough for me. Nice to know that at least one legend is true & verified by a reliable person. In fact I'm pretty sure you showed me the photo of the bear in the paddock a couple of years ago.
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Rob, I would have shown it to you many times.
I have one of the originals courtesy of Tony Healy who actually interviewed the witnesses.
I have the photo here, and am sure it was on the old site which totally debunked TYM's book's view of the incident.
I'll scan it tomorrow or Monday and show everyone again.
DMH
I have one of the originals courtesy of Tony Healy who actually interviewed the witnesses.
I have the photo here, and am sure it was on the old site which totally debunked TYM's book's view of the incident.
I'll scan it tomorrow or Monday and show everyone again.
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To all those interested in the "Gayndah Bear" story - The circus tragedy is true - I stake my whole reputation on the claim. As a young researcher at the time into all things "weird and wonderful" and an aspiring movie producer at the time, I personally witnessed the terrible incidents in relation to the circus accident on Binjour Plateau north of Gayndah and its aftermath at the Gayndah High School Sport oval where the circus tried to recover from its ordeal in the mid-1950's. Unfortunately, the films that I still had of the whole affair (and of an earthquake in the same area) were destroyed in our 1985 house fire where I lost hundreds of valuable photos, 8mm and 16mm films and historical documents. I still have my original story from that period (it was reproduced in a Gayndah newspaper in the mid-1990's at the request of the local editor following reports of a strange creature wandering the area - never proven). I shall look through my files and create a new sub-site on my website http://www.warriors.egympie.com.au. I shall title the old report "The Gayndah Bear Story". Everyone can share in this true story - however, give me a week to find it and format it to the website. Hope you all enjoy the read.
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Brett, your a true pioneering legend and one of the few down to Earth and 'genuine' researchers that I'm proud to call a "friend".
Brett has a treasure chest of authentic facts and goodies like no other in this Country has ever obtained.
Beyond that, a true Gentleman.....
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Brett has a treasure chest of authentic facts and goodies like no other in this Country has ever obtained.
Beyond that, a true Gentleman.....
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Dean - you're embarrassing me! XXX to you too...
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Back atcha big guy.....
Your a hidden secret.
You run rings around "other/s" who pretend to know about the Ancient visitors.....
At least "YOU" can produce actual photo's, references, drawings, facts, and pictures in your books instead of blatently "plagerised" or 'heresay' copies.... like other/s do......
Hats off to you...
DMH
Your a hidden secret.
You run rings around "other/s" who pretend to know about the Ancient visitors.....
At least "YOU" can produce actual photo's, references, drawings, facts, and pictures in your books instead of blatently "plagerised" or 'heresay' copies.... like other/s do......
Hats off to you...
DMH
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Shucks Dean ... you're too kind! Friendship and trust are earned - never given freely - you earned mine in both instances and I don't care who knows it.
A little depressed this morning (Sunday) - got the news that a very good and old associate who - like you - was a true friend and valued researcher - one who would stand in front of a bus to protect you - one who also sought the truth - died overnight of kidney disease in Brisbane after a long battle waiting for a transplant donor. A real tragedy! You praise me? Man, you should have known him - a walking encyclopaedia on all things strange and wonderful in our unexplored bushland.
Over the years, I have met and conversed with literally thousands of people who were seeking the truth to matters dear to their hearts in many fields. 15 percent were really genuine in their search. 27 percent were either way. 32 percent were on trips of fantasy. The remaining 26 percent were exploiters for their own end never giving anything in return (See, I do keep records - particularly the last 26 percent). Of the 85 percent who were either way, on trips of fantasy, or the exploiters of other people's work - you never hear from them again - sad isn't it because they may have had a lot to offer to others.
That is why I don't take half measures in research. I listen, talk and assist - never putting anyone down because of their opinions - the "enemy" is always out there - waiting! People want truth today - not fictions and B...S... You know that - I know that - from past experience.
My best advice to all your friends out there is - if you want to be believed, report everything to the very fine line of description (time, date, place, participants, weather, good descriptions, animal behaviour - you know what I mean). All of these finer points can distinguish truth or fiction.
That's the lesson for today - cheers to all.
A little depressed this morning (Sunday) - got the news that a very good and old associate who - like you - was a true friend and valued researcher - one who would stand in front of a bus to protect you - one who also sought the truth - died overnight of kidney disease in Brisbane after a long battle waiting for a transplant donor. A real tragedy! You praise me? Man, you should have known him - a walking encyclopaedia on all things strange and wonderful in our unexplored bushland.
Over the years, I have met and conversed with literally thousands of people who were seeking the truth to matters dear to their hearts in many fields. 15 percent were really genuine in their search. 27 percent were either way. 32 percent were on trips of fantasy. The remaining 26 percent were exploiters for their own end never giving anything in return (See, I do keep records - particularly the last 26 percent). Of the 85 percent who were either way, on trips of fantasy, or the exploiters of other people's work - you never hear from them again - sad isn't it because they may have had a lot to offer to others.
That is why I don't take half measures in research. I listen, talk and assist - never putting anyone down because of their opinions - the "enemy" is always out there - waiting! People want truth today - not fictions and B...S... You know that - I know that - from past experience.
My best advice to all your friends out there is - if you want to be believed, report everything to the very fine line of description (time, date, place, participants, weather, good descriptions, animal behaviour - you know what I mean). All of these finer points can distinguish truth or fiction.
That's the lesson for today - cheers to all.
Brett J. Green
Historian/Author/Aboriginal Cultural Researcher
Historian/Author/Aboriginal Cultural Researcher
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Alex
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Can't you just feel the love?!
Brett, good work man, and i'm sorry to hear the loss of your friend.
Looking forward to your new book.
Brett, good work man, and i'm sorry to hear the loss of your friend.
Looking forward to your new book.
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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Alex - Sentimental little s... aren't I? The loss of a good friend always comes hard at first - but life has to go on.
Cheers - keep in touch.
Cheers - keep in touch.
Brett J. Green
Historian/Author/Aboriginal Cultural Researcher
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Rob Mac
Yep thought it as one of yours, my uncertainty comes from one of my former staff ( the young American who you would have met when we did that job at Milton ) who went back to the States for a couple of months & went on a hunting/camping/fishing holiday with his rellies & returned with literally hundreds of photos of wildlife etc which took hours to go thru. After a while ALL capsites tend to look similar.Rob, I would have shown it to you many times.
I have one of the originals courtesy of Tony Healy who actually interviewed the witnesses.
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bowhunter
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hey all thanks heaps for your input...hey plesio that scetch looks like the ass end of what i hit. I think the head wasnt quite so long and it wqas all dark grey. I still have no idea what it was i went back next day but it had rained so no blood or prints. i guess it'll remain one of lifes little mysteries.
Noone believed in gorillas you know,until someone found one...
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Hi Brett,
I know the Bullen family. Didn't realise at first that it was their circus truck involved in the accident. I'll touch base with them as I am interested to know more.
I'll also see if I can hunt up any newspaper clipping of the event.
Cheers,
Ruby
I know the Bullen family. Didn't realise at first that it was their circus truck involved in the accident. I'll touch base with them as I am interested to know more.
I'll also see if I can hunt up any newspaper clipping of the event.
Cheers,
Ruby
It is the dim haze of mystery that adds enchantment to pursuit. - Antoine Rivarol