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Cryptomundo And Our Number One Fan= NW

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I noticed our old buddy NW is alive on Cryptomundo talking about the video we uploaded the other day.
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December 1st, 2011 at 6:14 pm
The camera work is slick and Harrison’s performance, it must be said, is impressive.
Thanks (cool)
If nothing else was known about the actual evidence, circumstances, and personalities involved it would come across as compelling testimony in favour of the Yowie.
1/There was no "evidence" either way..what part of that does NW not get.
2/Circumstances and personalities eh..you mean like the two mad witnesses that you based your own hoax ideas on.
Witness one said he saw the eyes/heard the footsteps and sensed the dread....
Witness 2 claimed the glowing eyes were his because his eyes had cataracts and they glow under torchlight .which then morphed into ....that he was actually a shapeshifter who could be in many places.
It was Mr cataracts shifting through time and space and appearing to everyone in a different location.
Yep..that sure does explain everything as a hoax NW..??????
Oh the shame..a "sceptic" needing the testimony of a teleporting shape shifter. (death)
No explanation from NW...no mention of any of the above..anywhere in NW thousands of posts..nothing..just ..cricket noises..
Now is the time to come clean and apologise for this mendacious obfuscation...
Will CFZ or, indeed, anyone else be actually investigating Harrison’s claim?
How?
Is NW being obtuse for more dishonest reasons..or is NW just thick.?
How can anyone investigate a bunch of fascinating anecdotes Mr Holmes.?
If genuine, Harrison’s encounter would bring the Yowie into the spotlight as a legitimate subject of study.
Thanks..its legit..we agree
(note: the interviewer is an old friend of Harrison’s from before their involvement in cryptozoology)
Sweet baby Jesus..Can this guy get anything right.? (no brains)
I had never met my "old friend" before the flipping Cryptoconference in 2001.
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HA HA HA.... MR ED better known as NightJoker!!! If there is an absence of evidence of hoaxing, simply make it up” is Ed`s catchcry. Inaccurate observations and blatant lies are second nature to this comedian.

That quote about investigating is hilarious.... (lol) how many people has this guy interviewed in person? How many times has he travelled to the site of an encounter to look for physical evidence or supporting testimony??? Armchair research at its best :roll: , and when there are gaps in his conclusions because of his laziness, or because the witness testimony does not support his “mythology-hoax” hypothesis he simply confabulates the data to meet that criteria.

Out of hundreds of cases on record Ed has selected a small handful of cases to support his claims.... in which he has either confabulated the data as in DHs encounter; or by large he tends to select more weaker cases, even clear examples of practical jokes,. For example, Ed congratulated himself on solving the Pilliga bus-yowie encounter......
http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2009/1 ... yowie.html
This incident involved a busload of schoolkids complete with tales of yowies and other scary things of the night, when low and behold a yowie turns up on the roadside to greet the bus!!! It took everyone but Ed a whole nano-second to determine this was sh#*s and giggles.... but not Ed... The very fact that he presents this case as supporting material for his beliefs is a clear sign of desperation....... Talk about a weak body of work!!! (no brains)

One of the cases he is uncertain about is the 2009 Mount George encounter, quite conveniently Ed has not even bothered to follow this one up.... seems it doesn`t support his conclusions of mythology and hoaxing.... so best stay away from the stronger cases Ed. Your mates at the Australian Debunkers Society mightn`t like you delving into those ones!!! GREAT RESEARCH CHAMP!!!! In-depth :lol: , analytical (cheers) , OBJECTIVE (claps hands) !!! What a joke!!! (c**p)

Ed`s major specialities are selecting, twisting or confabulating material which supports his belief system, that is, the phenomenon is simply mythology, a massive conspiracy of hoaxing and story telling... according to Ed this mythology and hoaxing has been occurring for over 100 years and involves hundreds of people from a wide cross-section of the population from all corners of the country..... Even though the vast majority of witnesses are totally independent of each other, have absolutely nothing to gain from telling their story, many have no prior knowledge or interest in the subject, yet time and time again they give remarkably similar accounts!!!! According to Ed this is all just one massive Mythological Hoax, hundreds of people over numerous decades banding together to pull off a massive deception!!!!! ANYONE UP FOR SOME GREAT CONSPIRACY THEORIES??? (eek) The scary part is that I think this guy actually believes his own deluded dribble... (no brains)

Poor old Ed, a man in need of desperate attention.... a mid-life crisis (burnt up) , delusions of grandeur and a narcissistic personality thrown in for good measure. The sad irony is that the only true mythology that exists lays in poor old Ed`s dense grey matter. :(
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Wow you two should be proud of yourselves slaggin off a member who is no longer active on this forum for asking perfectly valid questions. im not a member of Cryptomundo so i dont know if youve commented on that forum regarding his questions but to not take YOUR issues up there with him and bring it here seems pretty gutless.

Im actually suprised no one here has questioned this encounter or the circumstances surrounding the closest encounter ive read or heard besides Bongo. (actor or not) All the threads regarding this incident are locked with posts that have been removed and at least one user that has been "banished". Is this standard practise for someone who doesnt play along with the story your trying to tell???

Were is the audio?? It is the only record of the incident besides Deans recount and it is no longer availible.Why was it chopped down to the bare minimum then promtly removed??Why was it removed?? (thumb Down) (thumb Down)
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juic3d wrote:Wow you two should be proud of yourselves slaggin off a member who is no longer active on this forum for asking perfectly valid questions.... and bring it here seems pretty gutless.

Im actually suprised no one here has questioned this encounter or the circumstances surrounding the closest encounter.
I would be one of the first to leap to the defence of those falsely maligned but you have this absolutely wrong. This forum is supportive of many varied opinions but is rightfully intolerant of those who unjustly accuse others of outright lies and fabrication of evidence, particularly when the accusers evidence is confined to what is in their own mind and not backed up by facts. We do not need the divisive input of someone who has no respect for those who are intelligent enough to make up their own minds about the information being presented, or the credibility of the individuals involved. So, I'd be very careful about coming in here and calling anyone "gutless" sunshine, especially highly respected members who, like me, do not suffer fools easily. Insult my intelligence and launch personal attacks and you are not welcome. Frankly, NW is deserving of the same level of disrespect he dishes out. Some call it karma and it can be a real bitch. Me, I call it the Golden Rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. I think you owe an apology or two here - and quickly.
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Thanks Andrew !!
Wow you two should be proud of yourselves slaggin off a member who is no longer active on this forum
And the reason he is no longer active as you so quaintly put it is..he accused everyone here of fraud/lies..is that ringing any bells or are you 100% clueless and now decide to bring this up years later.
And has proceeded to defame nearly everyone in Australia involved in the subject.
But you would know that right.,
for asking perfectly valid questions.
Jesus.. (eek)
If you actually read his post..he is asking others to investigate the topic.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Years later..
With sly allusions that its a fraud anyway..
He could have "investigated" the anecdotes years ago..but he started with the idea it was a hoax..
He started his line of communication with Dean with words to the effect of "admit your a liar to me or I wll do an article telling the world you are a liar"
Thats honest research is it tiger.?
im not a member of Cryptomundo so i dont know if youve commented on that forum regarding his questions but to not take YOUR issues up there with him and bring it here seems pretty gutless.
Who gives a rats arse what your a member of. (happy)
You could have looked at cryptomundo 2 seconds ago and found out instead of playing games. (jest)
But you did not know we have dealt with his "issues" for years..you did not know that he attacked everyone in research in Australia right..you did not know his games with semantics or blackmail threats did you..
Now that you know..after reading this response and the web site on him and his golden witnesses and the games his golden witness have played..then you will now realise why I dont get down on his level there..which is what he wants..why would I.
It has never "won" in other various exchanges I have had with it here..
Why would it be different on that board. (jest)
I did not know that if someone who has a proven track record of deception (which I will pretend you are unaware of) and has called everyone liars ..starts up again on another forum..that the rule is to deal with it there.
Thanks for the heads up on that one.
It is not after answers..are you following this..the guy is a little bit mad and is obsessed with the subject.
Here is your hero
http://nightwalker-yowies-netstalker.blogspot.com/
Follow the links to his golden witnesses.
Then come back here and tell us you had no idea what had being happening and dont have any idea what you are talking about..
Im actually suprised no one here has questioned this encounter or the circumstances surrounding the closest encounter
I am actually surprised...that you would make such an idiotic comment.
There are loads of posts..how many more did you need.?
ive read or heard besides Bongo. (actor or not)
You bring up a lousy radio comedian gag..whilst talking about Deans event....geez..can you do some reading please.
All the threads regarding this incident are locked with posts that have been removed and at least one user that has been "banished".
Wow..yep..if you defame people from this group on our board..if you lie..if you have mad rants..then yep..what a surprise..ya get banned.."we" cannot keep answering the same dumb arse questions put hundreds of different ways..
You must have not read what I just posted in response so here is the essence.
There is no evidence that anything occurred..bingo..nada...like 99.99999999 % of all "encounters" with these creatures..ll
But numerous witnesses did hear and see something odd..
The 2 main witnesses that said it was fake..one heard and saw stuff and the other..to explain away what was happening down in the gully..had himself teleporting.
Is this standard practise for someone who doesnt play along with the story your trying to tell???
Mate..is it standard practise for you to ask ignorant and really stupid rhetorical questions .????
You can ignore what "facts" there are..you can ignore the sceptic witness problems..you can ignore NW games.
If that makes you more comfortable with "the story" fine...move along.
You did not understand what NW wrote or what I wrote in response.
Believe what you need to believe..no one seriously cares either way.. (jest)
But... if you in future voice or "subtly" imply the words fraud/hoax or lies etc.. then you will cross the line here with me.
Unike yourself possibly..but if someone accuses me/or implies I am a part to a lie or a hoax...then I dont look too kindly on that.
If that baffles you then I cannot help you.
Were is the audio??
Why are you asking us.????
Here is the ONLY bit of audio were were ever given.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sNZhfJFuKs
Note the date uploaded Jan 28, 2009
WE WERE NEVER GIVEN ANYTHING OTHER THAT THIS SMALL SAMPLE.
It was sent to one of us.
I uploaded that sample after the bumbling halfwits had back problems and were incapable of uploading it to youtube.??
Go figure.
We were promised for several years by "The botherers"..(still making cranks phone calls fellas?) that they would expose us all with the full audio track.
Other than some demented emails and a few crank phone calls and texts etc (and a recent mad rant about guns and another banning on another forum)....nothing every was heard from the botherers ever again.
As it should be might I add... (cool)
Were we surprised. (jest)
They were asked by one of us if we could hear the whole tape...unedited...at their house..easy eh..
THis was at the start of the madness..
Now if you were honest and had the proof..whats the problem. ??
And they would not do it..go ask NW where the audio is..do some research yourself.
It is the only record of the incident besides Deans recount and it is no longer availible.
Bingo...THE FULL AUDIO WAS NEVER MADE AVAILABLE
For all we know, it might even have the footsteps of whatever was up there that night.
Now that you know we were never given a copy and..that the nuts would not release their PROOF you can admit here that you have no idea what you are talking about right.??
Thats an honest response right..?????
Why was it chopped down to the bare minimum then promtly removed??Why was it removed??
Why are you asking us why we were only given the bare minimum??
It was never "removed".!!
It was not removed from my video channel.
I posted it..anyone just had to ask..the link is probably still there in one of the hundreds of flipping posts.
Gutless eh..?
Now that you know the backstory..have you got anything to say to us..??
Just spotted this gem from you..
It would seem plausable that an advanced race would have the technology to create such beasts like the yowie as humans now have the technology to splice and manipulate DNA and we all know humans aint all that.

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=3690&p=24494#p24494
So a guy makes a claim that he was "pushed" by something most probably odd..and you play Mr Sceptic..(without knowing anything about this case mind you)..
Yet you have zero problem with suggesting aliens possibly created yowies..?? in a previous post..
Beyond parody springs to mind.. (jest)
Ya got to be consistent. tiger..otherwise.. (happy)

P.S
I read your latest "response" (it was not even pathetic ) which I deleted...you do not appear to understand basic english ....We wasted our time telling you some simple facts and you never even had the guts to admit you have no idea what you are talking about or even apologise...

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Wow you two should be proud of yourselves slaggin off a member who is no longer active on this forum for asking perfectly valid questions.
What perfectly valid questions??? We are still waiting for them.... the only thing NW has done is make false accusations and fabricate evidence of hoaxing....
if youve commented on that forum regarding his questions but to not take YOUR issues up there with him and bring it here seems pretty gutless.
Fact is, the issue has been taken up numerous times and collectively hundreds of responses have been made relating to this case and others! As Mike states, Mr. Ed is a serial poster with what can only be described as an obsession and dire need to debunk the phenomena and everyone associated with it. I for one just don`t have the time and patience anymore to respond to the zillion other forum postings where he has presented his slandering lies. The few I did bother with Ed mysteriously went missing or waited for some other wannabe debunker to come to his defence.
Im actually suprised no one here has questioned this encounter or the circumstances surrounding the closest encounter ive read or heard besides Bongo.
This comment clearly shows your ignorance in regard to the case. Numerous interviews, postings and on-site follow-ups have been conducted. How much research have you done yourself.... I assume you have talked in person to DH and Joe Black about the encounter??? No need to answer that one, I think we all know the answer judging by your comments.
All the threads regarding this incident are locked with posts that have been removed and at least one user that has been "banished". Is this standard practise for someone who doesnt play along with the story your trying to tell???
As Mike has previously mentioned, lies and slanderous character assassination in conjunction with no supporting evidence is simply not tolerated..... If you are going to call someone a liar, attempt to defame, then take it all a step further by claiming the whole subject and anyone associated with it is engaged in hoaxing or mythological story tellIing, then at the very least present some convincing material to back up your claims.... The material NW has presented is simply ridiculous and laughable at best!!!

While along those lines, you may want to enquire why several individuals I am aware of have been banned from AusCypt for not towing the company line.... Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!

How about actually going to the effort of getting your facts straight and then getting back to us! Better yet, go get some advice of your friend and come back at us with his bodgy, laughable, so-called evidence of hoaxing and utterly blatant misrepresentations of the true facts!! Happy trolling champ!
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