William Tyrell - Yowie?

[Scarts]

Hi Paul. I commend you on your efforts, but a couple of points to be mindful of.

When William vanished, he was allegedly playing hide and seek in the front yard of the grandmothers address. If you look on Google, the house is on a corner block. A, the details of what the slightly older sister told police, will likely not be released, and b, only the police know which side of the property, William was playing. What anyone can tell from google mapping is neighbouring properties are relatively close by and the gardens aren't well established. Hence, visibility is fairly high and William we are told, was dressed in bright red and blue.

This is a terribly, terribly, sensitive and tragic case. There are many theories and I have my own.

I feel, what's being suggested here, will be frowned upon if the general public gets wind of it, if not met with intense hostility.

[DaveR]

I feel, what's being suggested here, will be frowned upon if the general public gets wind of it, if not met with intense hostility.

Have to agree here. The general public would see it as a disrespectful distraction from the ongoing investigation. Public sentiment is still running high. We have only recently finished having the, now annual, Walk for William which is held simultaneously in many areas. At the end of the day this research may indicate the presence of something on the property 4 years before the incident. But its still only speculation.

[Scarts]

After further thought on this matter, I feel this line of inquiry is highly inappropriate and in bad taste.

Nobody can decide if a Yowie is flesh and blood, paranormal, or a mixture of both, let alone capable of abducting a child. Yowie research has not progressed to the point of expanding research from sightings and field research to actual missing person cases, especially of this high profile nature. There is a grieving family to consider, the unknown plight of a little boy, and an ongoing official investigation that doesn't need distraction or interference.

The suggestions here will be met with outrage by the general public, and put AYR in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. These sorts of speculations need to be discussed privately not publicly.

[paulmcleod67]

After further thought on this matter, I feel this line of inquiry is highly inappropriate and in bad taste.

Nobody can decide if a Yowie is flesh and blood, paranormal, or a mixture of both, let alone capable of abducting a child. Yowie research has not progressed to the point of expanding research from sightings and field research to actual missing person cases, especially of this high profile nature. There is a grieving family to consider, the unknown plight of a little boy, and an ongoing official investigation that doesn't need distraction or interference.

The suggestions here will be met with outrage by the general public, and put AYR in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. These sorts of speculations need to be discussed privately not publicly.

I respectfully disagree

[paulmcleod67]

The reason for my disagreement?

I was attacked in West Wyalong and my foot was hit by an object that separated my right metatarsal, might as well have been broken for the pain lasted weeks.

I went back to that site a month after a young lady by the name of Rocky Elio was found dead next to one of her two dogs, the animal was also deceased.

The coroner will not release that report.

Anyway I found the object that hit my foot, it was a rusted broken hunk of iron that looks a bit like a tow bar (see images below)

I also suffered contusions and bruised ribs (see images)

My point is that Yowies have a wild mean streak in them just like human do.

So if I'm biased forgive me, experience dictates my motivation in getting the species recognised and warning signs erected in their habitats.

I'm reasonably sure Dean would agree after being attacked twice ?

Cheers

[micathia]

I think Rocky's case has higher probability involved with yowie than little William, also going that direction would definitely attract less critics.

While reading rocky's info, I hardly think anything else than yowie. If in America, I would think of bears, but here in Australia, I can't think of anything mainstream that could kill a dog if it is not a gun.

[VicYowieResearch]

The reason for my disagreement?

I was attacked in West Wyalong and my foot was hit by an object that separated my right metatarsal, might as well have been broken for the pain lasted weeks.

I went back to that site a month after a young lady by the name of Rocky Elio was found dead next to one of her two dogs, the animal was also deceased.

The coroner will not release that report.

Anyway I found the object that hit my foot, it was a rusted broken hunk of iron that looks a bit like a tow bar (see images below)

I also suffered contusions and bruised ribs (see images)

My point is that Yowies have a wild mean streak in them just like human do.

So if I'm biased forgive me, experience dictates my motivation in getting the species recognised and warning signs erected in their habitats.

I'm reasonably sure Dean would agree after being attacked twice ?

Cheers

Can't find any records for a woman by that name in West Wyalong Paul, anymore details?

[paulmcleod67]

The reason for my disagreement?

I was attacked in West Wyalong and my foot was hit by an object that separated my right metatarsal, might as well have been broken for the pain lasted weeks.

I went back to that site a month after a young lady by the name of Rocky Elio was found dead next to one of her two dogs, the animal was also deceased.

The coroner will not release that report.

Anyway I found the object that hit my foot, it was a rusted broken hunk of iron that looks a bit like a tow bar (see images below)

I also suffered contusions and bruised ribs (see images)

My point is that Yowies have a wild mean streak in them just like human do.

So if I'm biased forgive me, experience dictates my motivation in getting the species recognised and warning signs erected in their habitats.

I'm reasonably sure Dean would agree after being attacked twice ?

Cheers

Can't find any records for a woman by that name in West Wyalong Paul, anymore details?

Sure matey.
I'm breaking in a new laptop at the moment but as soon as I'm setup Ill post what files I have on the Rocky Elio case, alternatively its posted already on my West Wyalong Yowie sighting topic on these boards.

I'm working on an interesting series of local missing farm stock right here in Ipswich as we speak a 50kg pig, a schetland pony and four calfs. Seems my decision to move here has been a timely one. Ill post the background of the Ipswich yowie at the same time I post the Rocy Elio file.

Cheers

[paulmcleod67]

The reason for my disagreement?

I was attacked in West Wyalong and my foot was hit by an object that separated my right metatarsal, might as well have been broken for the pain lasted weeks.

I went back to that site a month after a young lady by the name of Rocky Elio was found dead next to one of her two dogs, the animal was also deceased.

The coroner will not release that report.

Anyway I found the object that hit my foot, it was a rusted broken hunk of iron that looks a bit like a tow bar (see images below)

I also suffered contusions and bruised ribs (see images)

My point is that Yowies have a wild mean streak in them just like human do.

So if I'm biased forgive me, experience dictates my motivation in getting the species recognised and warning signs erected in their habitats.

I'm reasonably sure Dean would agree after being attacked twice ?

Cheers

Can't find any records for a woman by that name in West Wyalong Paul, anymore details?

Here is the promised story mate.


UPDATE: Police have held a press conference near the scene where a body was located at about 5.20pm on Thursday.

They are still unable to confirm whether the body is that of Rocky Eiao, however they did confirm that the body of a female was found with a deceased dog nearby.

Officers believe the body has been there for more than two days and was located about four or five kilometres from where Ms Eiao had last been seen.

We'll have an update of the press conference shortly.


EARLIER: Inspector Brenton Lee had confirmed that police had found a body but he said at that stage there were no specific details available.

"At the moment we're awaiting forensic services, the scene is all sealed off," Insp Lee said.

"We've located a body and we suspect it's her," he said.

"We've notified her mother, boyfriend and father."

8.05am: POLICE have located a body in bushland at Girilambone, about 80km north west of Nyngan, with the discovery made on Thursday evening.

While no formal identification has taken place, police believe the body to be of 25-year-old Rocky Eiao, who was last seen about midday on Friday, February 26, when she walked off from friends into bushland near Booroomugga Road.

Ms Eiao's last registered address was at Quandialla, east of West Wyalong but it was believed that in recent times she had been living in or near Nyngan.


Officers from Nyngan Police Station were notified of her disappearance the following afternoon (Saturday, February 27).

Police from Darling River Local Area Command have conducted an ongoing search operation over the last week utilising local officers and neighbouring police commands, Police Trail Bikes, Police Rescue (LANDSAR), SES and Rural Fire Service volunteers.

About 5.20pm on Thursday, police located a woman’s body within the search area, believed to be that of Ms Eiao.

A crime scene has been established at the location, which will be examined by forensic specialists.

Inquiries into the incident continue and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.

Cheers

[GlennO87]

To be honest it is a pretty bad situation. Why the hell does everyone see a blob and shout yowie..

[ConvincedSkeptic]

A couple of things.......
Firstly I always find Paul's research to be very compelling and an excellent read- especially the parallels that he often draws with Paulides research in the US.
But I feel like we're all missing a really obvious elements to this case.
Anyone who has young children or has been around young children a lot will tell you that 1. Their visual acuity is far superior to adults and thus is part of the reason that in sightings involving children the children are usually the first to spot the animal. 2. It seems more likely that the kidnapper was someone the child knew- if it were a strange animal you can bet the child would've at least been calling out and drawing attention early on- perhaps the older sister saw this? (And yes I am aware of the contradiction with the Dennis Martin case)
Honestly the whole case seems incredibly suspicious. I agree that so much just doesn't add up!

[theloneranger]

Hi Paul.

havent seen any new work from you in a while? hope you havent totally left the website.

[theloneranger]

living in germany i cant contribute much

[Ray Doherty]

Firstly i agree with Dion, the whole thing is disturbing but its not the first time this theory has been pushed around, kudos to Katherine to making the effort to do the work but right now what she has presented is a bit of stretch based on the assumptions she makes. There is clearly something in the image but without the original hi res its too hard to tell. The photos need professional editing to clear them up. What Paul's images look to me is someone in black clothing with a black back pack........however in balance it is not the first time things on a death or disappearance has gone hush hush, I urge you to look at Ron's post a while ago on Dairyville near Coffs now that is some suspicious activity by the authorities as it related to the discovery of half a human body in the state park. Also, based on several Aboriginal researchers I have met it isn't the first time a yowie could have snatched a child.

Unfortunately it remains a mystery which I hope gets solved soon for the families sake

[snittydeedee]

Hi Ray.

Could you please copy and paste the URL for Ron's post?
Sounds like an interesting read.
Would also love to hear more of the knowledge passed on to you,
about the aboriginal living with these beast.

Thank you in advance

[ronstar1]

Hi smittydee dee just type in dairyville remains and the post will come up very interesting read. Ron

[VicYowieResearch]

I wasn't going to post but think its pertinent regarding the demise of young Ms Elio, the below is from the SMH.

Almost a week after Rocky Eiao wandered off into the harsh and unforgiving bush in outback NSW, a woman's body has been found.

Police believe the body is that of Ms Eiao, 25, who walked off into rugged terrain at Girilambone, in north-west NSW, last Friday.


Adrian Newtown, who owned a farm where Rocky Eiao worked, helped in the search for the young woman.
Adrian Newtown, who owned a farm where Rocky Eiao worked, helped in the search for the young woman. Photo: Prime 7 News
One of the dogs that had stayed with Ms Eiao was found dead near the body.

Ms Eiao, who worked as a sheep shearer, had set off from her hometown of Nyngan, north-west of Dubbo, with her boyfriend and another friend for a drive through the bush.

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Rocky Eiao was missing in remote bushland for several days.
Rocky Eiao was missing in remote bushland for several days. Photo: Facebook
It is believed the trio may have been out hunting goats when their vehicle had a flat tyre.

Police believe Ms Eiao had an argument with her boyfriend and walked into the bush off Boorumugga Road.

Two dogs that were with the three friends followed Ms Eiao. One was found alive shortly after, while Ms Eiao was reported missing the next day.

Friends and family joined police on trail bikes as temperatures tipped the high 30s and scoured the difficult terrain and red-dirt tracks.




Meanwhile, some questioned what prompted her to walk off on her own.

"I have so many question still un answered, i need to know why u went into the bush alone," friend Katrina Lahay wrote on Facebook.



Police tape off the search area at Girilambone, in north-west NSW, where Ms Eiao went missing. Photo: Grace Ryan / Nyngan Observer
"Why no-one went straight in after u, why it took ova (sic) a day to report u missing to police and WHY HAVENT U BEEN FOUND YET."

Almost seven days of relentless searching reached a tragic end on Thursday evening when the body was found about five kilometres from where Ms Eiao went missing.

While the cause of death has not officially been determined, investigators were gravely concerned about her ability to survive exposure to the harsh elements.

Darling River Local Area Command police Inspector Brenton Lee described the area in which she disappeared as a "reasonably hostile environment".

"It is hot and scrubby with temperatures over 38 degrees all week. It is very dusty," he said.

Adrian Newton, who owned a farm on which Ms Eiao had worked, was involved in the search.

"Water is extremely limited here," he told Prime 7 News.

"If you're a young girl and don't know where you are going, it could be tragic circumstances."

Family said Ms Eiao was a country person who was familiar with the area.

"Where she has gone missing is where she works and knows the area very, very well," her cousin Tori Eiao told AAP.

"The only thing she hates are spiders and there would be a lot out there."


Considering the harsh conditions I would be more likely to rule misadventure in her demise, and the cornors report would not be released if the police thought there may be a criminal investigation to happen.

Just my thoughts.

[IKTK]

When William vanished, he was allegedly playing hide and seek in the front yard of the grandmothers address. If you look on Google, the house is on a corner block. A, the details of what the slightly older sister told police, will likely not be released, and b, only the police know which side of the property, William was playing. What anyone can tell from google mapping is neighbouring properties are relatively close by and the gardens aren't well established. Hence, visibility is fairly high and William we are told, was dressed in bright red and blue.

This is a terribly, terribly, sensitive and tragic case. There are many theories and I have my own.

I feel, what's being suggested here, will be frowned upon if the general public gets wind of it, if not met with intense hostility.

Various news programs have covered William's disappearance and reported the details of where he disappeared. eg, 60 minutes. His mother described the situation and said that they were playing chasings and a type of hide and seek with both making growling sounds like a tiger, his favourite game. The mother would growl and William ran away and hid, growling also. The last time she saw him, he'd run outside the top door at the highest point of the property (which is the road running behind the house ending in bush - the road with the driveway running off it) and around the top corner of the carport. She could hear his growling noises as he ran down the side of the house between the neighbour's house and garden. Then she couldn't hear him any more. She began to call his name and ask where he was, but she didn't hear anything at all. She couldn't even hear any birds around at that point.

That side passage is exactly where the yowie is moving toward the side garden from underneath the veranda, to hide behind the tree in Katerine B.'s video.

I agree wholeheartedly. It is a tragic case. But how many more do you want to happen before you start warning people about the dangers.

[Yowie bait]

Yes Katherine B also says they took William because he was wearing red among other things. Is that some bigfoot fact or something from 411? Im sure the police would take that "evidence" very seriously.

[sensesonfire]

A question that needs to be asked and answered.

The disappearance of young William is a very contentious and sensitive issue I think everybody realises this but I'd like to forward a question to all those suggesting this thread should be removed.
The question is would you have taken the same attitude back in 1969 when another young child Dennis Martin went missing in the US Great Smoky Mountains National Park. As we know he was abducted in full view of his father, grandfather and one other and yet nobody witnessed a thing.
The general consensus was that he was taken by a Bigfoot and important information was withheld from the family and the Martin family to this day have been denied closure on this tragic event.

So you are all saying that withholding information was the right thing to do and to close down any discussion relating to Bigfoot should have been enacted. If that is the case you are actually denying that Bigfoot even exists.

[Bluedog]

Dennis Martin was taken in 1969, 50 years ago in a different country! At the moment the tragic circumstances surrounding the disappearance of William Tyrell is big news! No matter what your individual opinion is this isn't the time to express it! Maybe in 50 years if we don't have any answers, discuss it then.