When You Know Your Not Welcome

[Yowie Chaser]

Hi Guys, Yowie Chaser,

This will be my last post on this Forum.

I thought i could bring something good to the Forum.

Any Way Guys good Luck i hope you guys can finally find a Yowie 1 Day.

[yowiedan]

Mate, it's not that your not welcome but as Rusty said its Quality not Quantity. If you post alot of videos and there isn't any substance to them you quickly lose interest. It's just like a tv show if they are not good or funny etc they lose their audience real quick.

[Black]

Yowie chaser, you may have to excuse any less than enthusiastic comments.

The yowie research community went through an all you can post field research video buffet, some years ago, where speculation and paradolia ran rife. Today, the opposite seems to be occurring. I don't recall any money shots back then either, so it's amazing how short peoples' memories can be.

Your efforts are much appreciated.

[rowbe]

Yowie Chaser, I don't think anyone thinks you are not welcome. I am also relatively new to the site, I started with heaps of enthusiasm but was not in a position to do as much field work as you have been. I believe all on the site know and respect your enthusiasm and are only too happy to assist and provide meaningful advice.
I have had to step back over recent times, the subject can take over every part of your life - if you let it. Although your clips and posts are interesting, it would pay to check the areas again before you post anything - as you may have noticed people don't have much time for quantity, especially if you haven't checked the area, at least, a second time. Read as many of the previous posts that you can - its great information - if in doubt, post a questions - there are many on the site willing to assist and provide their experience. Learn the art of research, and report the facts. Also, be careful visiting a site already under known research - by visiting places where researchers have already commenced habituation can be detrimental to the study (they won't be happy- as you may already be aware). They stick to a routine to get the hairies used to them. Look there is so much to learn - my advice is to do what your doing, stick to an area you can access readibly and frequently (an area no one is working in), look for the signs and be a great researcher not a poster of untested clips/images. You may be the person who gets that shot most of us only dream about.
Also, be careful out there if you are alone - there are many risks. Not only native/feral fauna but there are remote type areas where certain illicit crops are present, trust me they don't like people snooping around.

Because you may feel rejected - don't pick up your bucket and spade and leave the sandpit, take note and move on and become a good researcher which you obviously have the passion for. Use this forum to assist you.

[Wingnut]

Well said rowbe, great advice

[Yowie Chaser]

Cheers Guys, really appreciate what you guys are saying..

Its a new day, i feel much better, Where can i go today..

[Slats]

Hey Yowie Chaser
Please don't feel that you are not welcome. I myself have only been doing this for about three years.
I think the first 12 to 18 months I spent scrolling through all the different threads here on the forums. Read as many of the books I could find to "arm" myself with the knowledge that has already been learnt.
I myself have been guilty of being overly enthusiastic about things I have found I jumped to conclusions a little prematurely.

In my experience all of the members hear are more than happy to help and offer advice. At times it may seem a little course but it's from a place that draws on decades of experience in a field of research that most of society deems crazy.

I myself have never seen a Yowie and live in WA. The largest state with the least amount of visual sightings and no other field researchers that I'm aware of so I have my work cut out for me.

It is very much a game of patient persistence, thorough investigation, follow up and repetition to get conclusive results and data. Like others have mentioned find an area that you can focus your efforts in. Learn as much as you can about the local flora and fauna. Learn more about primatology, anthrapology, tracking and wildlife photo/videography. Develop a few hypothesis and test them, otherwise, your basically walking around in the bush aimlessly which I can personally attest to doing.

Once I found some focus I started to get better results and a whole new world opens up to further study and investigation. I also found that I had a lot more to offer other researchers as I am starting to be able to draw comparisons between theirs and my work. Try not to take what others say negatively, rather, take it as advice and honest criticism to help you in your field research.

Cheers

[sensesonfire]

Yowie Chaser, I comment very rarely on the Bigfoot Discussion Board because I believe there is no point I much prefer the AYR - Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter discussion. I understand there are a few people such as Dean Harrison who have had genuine encounters with Yowies and lived to tell of the experience.
A lot of other reports are hypothetical suggestions mixed with a little pareidolia at least on the controversial conjecture it is just that controversial.
So I don't find your videos and reports any less interesting than a lot of other comments in this section. Don't give up, keep posting if you believe you have something of interest.

[rowbe]

Hi YowieChaser
There is some real good advice on this thread.

On another note, and this is not pertinent to this subject, but you mentioned on google maps/earth you thought you saw a Pyramid object in the Flinders ___ region at Ipswich. As a topic I am also interested in, I took the liberty to also look around that area using both google maps and earth and found what I think you may have seen. See attached - from the above shot you would say yep that's a pyramid - it has four even triangular sides and a relatively pronounced square base plus a pinnacle at the top. When you have a sideways look at the object it is in fact a mound. My point is photos can be deceptive. However, I had great fun looking further into the subject. One question - did you actually get to the area re pyramid object? What was the area like?

Map.PNG

[Rusty2]

No ones saying your not welcome Yowie Chaser but you need a plan and you need to focus .

Have you tried targeting footprints ? Remote beaches , mud flats , muddy fire trails , dusty roads .

Audio collection is very rewarding but time consuming . Below is my first ever recording that sounded like the real thing , complete with footsteps . I love it , it's my favourite but it didn't fall from the sky , I made it happen because I persisted . This is how things get discovered and there's nothing easy about any of it .
Even though it's very convincing and no one can tell me what it is , I still can't prove the existence of yowies . It's a tough gig and we have a tough audience , that's just the way it is .
Get A plan and stick to it .

Original barking recording.mp3

[Rusty2]

I should have added this .

The most important question that runs through my head is , how do I prove it ?

If you can keep this question in your mind , it will help you and and help us at the same time . Good Luck !

[EdSimpson]

Hi there Yowie Chaser,

There are no experts in this group, but some with greater experience.

Use the criticism as a learning tool.

I am dissapointed that some critism by the peers was not constructive, but rather on the harsh side.

I can fully understand if you leave the group, but I for one, love your enthusiasm, and wish to follow your adventure, and discoveries.

Ed.

[Yowie Chaser]

Hi YowieChaser
There is some real good advice on this thread.

On another note, and this is not pertinent to this subject, but you mentioned on google maps/earth you thought you saw a Pyramid object in the Flinders ___ region at Ipswich. As a topic I am also interested in, I took the liberty to also look around that area using both google maps and earth and found what I think you may have seen. See attached - from the above shot you would say yep that's a pyramid - it has four even triangular sides and a relatively pronounced square base plus a pinnacle at the top. When you have a sideways look at the object it is in fact a mound. My point is photos can be deceptive. However, I had great fun looking further into the subject. One question - did you actually get to the area re pyramid object? What was the area like?
Map.PNG

Yes mate done a vid on it.. its a very large rock lol

[Yowie Chaser]

Hey Guys, thanx for the support.

I will answer you all over the next couple of days.

busy for the next four days heading to Tenterfield area if anyone wants me to check out anything around there or know of any good spots just message me here

[Yowie Chaser]

I should have added this .

The most important question that runs through my head is , how do I prove it ?

If you can keep this question in your mind , it will help you and and help us at the same time . Good Luck !

No ones saying your not welcome Yowie Chaser but you need a plan and you need to focus .

Have you tried targeting footprints ? Remote beaches , mud flats , muddy fire trails , dusty roads .

Audio collection is very rewarding but time consuming . Below is my first ever recording that sounded like the real thing , complete with footsteps . I love it , it's my favourite but it didn't fall from the sky , I made it happen because I persisted . This is how things get discovered and there's nothing easy about any of it .
Even though it's very convincing and no one can tell me what it is , I still can't prove the existence of yowies . It's a tough gig and we have a tough audience , that's just the way it is .
Get A plan and stick to it .
Original barking recording.mp3

Cheers Rusty.. i will remember that from now on, luv it. how do i prove it.

My problem is Rusty i got keep moving thats me. i just like checking out new places.

Found 3 lots of tree structures a lot of rock stax that could be done by anyone same as the tree structures. i had good looks at them..which i always video.

Yes mate i would like to get audio recorder..funny how phones pick up people talking at the end of the house, but cant pick up stuff that happens in the bush.lol

[yowiedan]

After reading all the posts on here I'd like to say that everyone is welcome to post on this forum, but rules do apply. I don't beat around the bush and tell things straight down the line. To be bluntly honest newbies with no experience filming their time out in the bush waste alot of time on nothing. This includes me when I first started well over a decade now. It takes time to refine your way of filming and editing what is good from shite. If you don't take the advice from experienced researchers and then go on to make your videos better than them then who is going to take up the bit to press on with the research of finding what we all are striving for, The Yowie!

[Wolf]

Yowie Chaser... many 'researchers' in this field make themselves play Devil's Advocate as a matter of course... it's the only way to take ourselves and ANY research seriously.

We do it to ourselves while researching... for example, when my wife and I found that print way out in the middle of nowhere in 2012 I didn't even take a photo of it I was so busy 'explaining' it away as some sort of natural phenomenon

And we do it by necessity to other researchers as well... much to the chagrin of those that turn out to be hoaxers or suffering from some form of self-convincing-illusory-reality-schizophrenia

It is a strange field indeed, attractive to all types with more than its fair share of the above. Just stay true to yourself and ask yourself what you want to achieve from this field of study.

If you are out to prove existence to anyone other than yourself, you will go the way of so many others before you
... but if you do it for the enjoyment and the hope to have a personal experience then all will be good

[Outback lurker]

suffering from some form of self-convincing-illusory-reality-schizophrenia

That’s a great line!
A bit off track,but reminded me of a bit of graffiti I saw many years ago...........”I’m no longer fighting my inner demons;we’re on the same side now”
Keep up your field work yowie chaser,you’re out there having a go and you never know what’ll turn up

[Bluedog]

Hey Yowie chaser, I for one appreciate your videos, your enthusiasm, your laid back sense of humour. You seem like an aussie bloke getting out there and having a go and you have fun while your doing it.
So keep making the videos, keep posting them here and on YouTube. Don't worry about the "yowie fun cops"
Cheers mate,

[Yowie Chaser]

Cheers Guys, once again really appreciate all the great comments.

[AL Pitman]

I wouldn't hurt if everyone played a little nicer in the sandpit
I understand the built up animosity that has developed on this site due to fake contributions.
But for those who have been at this for longer than most please remember the stars you had in your eyes when you first became Yowie aware and kicked off the hunt .

[rowbe]

I wouldn't hurt if everyone played a little nicer in the sandpit
I understand the built up animosity that has developed on this site due to fake contributions.
But for those who have been at this for longer than most please remember the stars you had in your eyes when you first became Yowie aware and kicked off the hunt .

Agree, sandpit would be a better place if all played a little nicer. Everyone deserves a chance.

[bassplyr]

Hey Yowie Chaser,.

I wouldn't leave just yet. Internet forums, particularly on controversial topics, require a thick skin to survive in. There will always be many different personality types and egos that dont necessarily mix well on just about every site on the internet.

Enthusiasm is good. Keep going out, filming and posting here. Just refine your craft and have that reflect in your posts. Its a skill that takes time and that necessary learning curve should be better empathized and respected by members here in my opinion.

[Yowie Chaser]

I wouldn't hurt if everyone played a little nicer in the sandpit
I understand the built up animosity that has developed on this site due to fake contributions.
But for those who have been at this for longer than most please remember the stars you had in your eyes when you first became Yowie aware and kicked off the hunt .

Agree, sandpit would be a better place if all played a little nicer. Everyone deserves a chance.

Cheers rowbe.

Hey Yowie Chaser,.

I wouldn't leave just yet. Internet forums, particularly on controversial topics, require a thick skin to survive in. There will always be many different personality types and egos that dont necessarily mix well on just about every site on the internet.

Enthusiasm is good. Keep going out, filming and posting here. Just refine your craft and have that reflect in your posts. Its a skill that takes time and that necessary learning curve should be better empathized and respected by members here in my opinion.

Cheers bassplyr,

[Black]

Yowie chaser, why dont you ask rusty for his absolute best video, so you know how high the video evidence bar is set.....

[yowiedan]

All of Rustys videos are on his YouTube channel. Whatever you want to know are in those videos.

[Rusty2]

why dont you ask rusty for his absolute best video

Hey Scarts !

Yowie Chaser , there are only 2 "video's" I've seen in 10 years that I believe are actually yowies .

I believe troy captured a yowie . It's not great but this is all anyone can seem to get . He is credible and didn't know he captured it and it was pointed out by Dion or Dooligah Man . There's a link in the description . http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.p ... roy#p32974

I also believe Daniel caught one the same way , by accident but I believe it's the real thing and Daniel is credible . Daniel went back to the location with another member to re-create the scene . From what I can remember it was very large but again only a glimpse .
http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4711

Scarts , I don't have a video that I could say IS a yowie . That's how high the bar is for me .

[Black]

Cheers Rusty, that's exactly what I was hoping you might do. Saves going through all your videos and trying to make a determination, and nobody knows those videos better than you do. So, now, someone like yowiechaser has an idea of the best that has been obtained from another researcher - and that was in ten years.

I think it would be helpful to new enthusiasts, the probability of seeing something yourself first hand or capturing an anomaly on camera.

In my experience with a hotspot, I never captured anything of significance on camera. However, I saw a couple of things myself. For myself, to be realistic, I worked it out to be around 1 in 100 visits, and that's being super optimistic, with only two anecdotes to show for it.

[Yowie bait]

Isnt there some analog video footage by some brothers that filmed one? Why havent we seen this? Maybe Buck could sketch it from a still if its not too worn out??

[Black]

Are you referring to the Creek brothers footage yowie bait? That was from about 2002 or 2003.

I don't recommend it.