Canis lupus familiaris

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Updating my Introduction To Relict Hominids presentation...
What do you think of this concept?
Its just an idea...

[Yowie Chaser]

Updating my Introduction To Relict Hominids presentation...
What do you think of this concept?
Its just an idea...

Hey mate, i listened to that last presentation you did omg, your the best on that side of things..

Rusty skills in building stuff & technology.

Dont know my part but things just happen to me, not sure how or why.

I think if you me & Rusty got together we would works this out.

However you do your presentation i know it will be great..

Wish i could get over to listen to your presentation hope its filmed & posted again.

Cheers Mate Yowie Chaser..

[greybush]

Hi Byrn, makes a lot of sense. Do you think that us,homo sapiens, might be domesticated hominids like dogs are domesticated

[Wolf]

Good idea and shows you're thinking outside the box.
Problem is H. Sapiens sapiens diverged from the common ancestor we likely share with H. Sapiens nocturnus (my favourite specie name) much longer ago than when we started domesticating canids.

[greybush]

Hi wolf,do we really know what the time frames are,the relationship may or may not of been happening sporadically throughout time, even baboons today at rubbish dumps take pups as pets to act as guards and for protection against other dogs
Greybush

[Wolf]

Well, like all of human history, all we have are scarce fossils (of ancient campsites as well as bodies/bones) which indicate the oldest domestication of canids sometime around 10-15000 years ... for what said records are worth.

I used to think the Hairy Blokes broke off from us (or more likely the other way around) sometime during H. erectus' immense time period... lately I am not so sure, perhaps it was even earlier, during the reign of the Australopithecines? ... after all erectus used tools.

[Slats]

Hey Býrn
Your thought certainly makes sense, it would be a fair assumption that the Yowie and other wildmens distain for dogs could come from our coalition with dogs. The dog would give away there position in some circumstances upsetting them.

Wolf
There's a theory in Australia that modern aboriginals came from two separate hominids a robust and a gracile
So I believe that your second thought that we separated from them in my opinion makes sense.

Cheers

[greybush]

Or maybe something played around genetically with the hominids that were here & developed us, took the massive muscled, thick boned hairy hominids with occipital buns who were totally at home in the wild and through genetics & breeding produced, in comparison, a thin boned, relatively hairless, high foreheaded , shorter armed, much weaker,domesticated ancestor, us, who's chances of survival were greatly improved by teaming up with and domesticating dogs & their ancestors, just a thought
Greybush

[greybush]

Or maybe something played around genetically with the hominids that were here & developed us, took the massive muscled, thick boned hairy hominids with occipital buns who were totally at home in the wild and through genetics & breeding produced, in comparison, a thin boned, relatively hairless, high foreheaded , shorter armed, much weaker,domesticated ancestor, us, who's chances of survival were greatly improved by teaming up with and domesticating dogs & their ancestors, just a thought
Greybush

[gregvalentine]

Hey mate, i listened to that last presentation you did omg, your the best on that side of things..

Rusty skills in building stuff & technology.

Dont know my part but things just happen to me, not sure how or why.

I think if you me & Rusty got together we would works this out.

However you do your presentation i know it will be great..

Wish i could get over to listen to your presentation hope its filmed & posted again.

Cheers Mate Yowie Chaser..

Methinks you unfortunately grossly exaggerate both your abilities and judgement, and make yourself look foolish in the process.

[Searcher]

'The Hammer' has hit the nail on the head.

Sound advice for Yowie Chaser. I hope he takes it on board as constructive.

Also good to see his disrespectful avatar gone. Dusty Martin was fined $1000's by the AFL for flipping the bird towards Collingwood supporters. It's just not nice.

[Bluedog]

'The Hammer' has hit the nail on the head.

Sound advice for Yowie Chaser. I hope he takes it on board as constructive.

Also good to see his disrespectful avatar gone. Dusty Martin was fined $1000's by the AFL for flipping the bird towards Collingwood supporters. It's just not nice.

Its yowie hunters , not the AFL!
Opinions and theories are like "xxxxxxx" "we all have one!
I might not agree with yowiechashers posts, but I respect the fact that this forum enables he or she to express their ideas.
If you post it, you have to wear it!

[Austral]

Or maybe something played around genetically with the hominids that were here & developed us, took the massive muscled, thick boned hairy hominids with occipital buns who were totally at home in the wild and through genetics & breeding produced, in comparison, a thin boned, relatively hairless, high foreheaded , shorter armed, much weaker,domesticated ancestor, us, who's chances of survival were greatly improved by teaming up with and domesticating dogs & their ancestors, just a thought
Greybush

That's what the sumarian tablets say happened .

[Searcher]

Bluedog wrote:
Its yowie hunters , not the AFL!
Opinions and theories are like "xxxxxxx" "we all have one!
I might not agree with yowiechashers posts, but I respect the fact that this forum enables he or she to express their ideas.
If you post it, you have to wear it!

Hey Bluedog,
Last time I checked, forums and footy matches were both public places. I don’t believe obscene gestures have a place in either of them.

[ripperton]

My theory is dogs are immune to infrasound ie they are not stunned or silenced by it.
The Hominid is annoyed by the barking and the only way to silence a dog is to kill it.

[Bluedog]

Bluedog wrote:
Its yowie hunters , not the AFL!
Opinions and theories are like "xxxxxxx" "we all have one!
I might not agree with yowiechashers posts, but I respect the fact that this forum enables he or she to express their ideas.
If you post it, you have to wear it!

Hey Bluedog,
Last time I checked, forums and footy matches were both public places. I don’t believe obscene gestures have a place in either of them.

All good searcher, I've seen plenty at both, you must be a Collingwood supporter!
Only kidding!!
While yowie chaser may have his ambitions mixed up with his capabilities I sure hope he hangs around
Its a better place for having him.
Its good to have a few characters on the forum.

[Wolf]

My theory is dogs are immune to infrasound ie they are not stunned or silenced by it.
The Hominid is annoyed by the barking and the only way to silence a dog is to kill it.

Just heard an older bloke relating his experiences to Wes from SasChron on his off-grid property. In the account he tells of finding one of his dogs very ill for no apparent reason. She woke up fine later and he deducted she was sleeping off an infrasound attack.

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Im relatively new to this forum and so I dont have(nor do I want) a strong feel for the politics and history amongst and between other posters but I drew no offence whatsoever from Yowie Chasers reply(I cant even figure out how it may be see as an issue) nor do I give any fucks about a picture of an orang utan raising its middle finger.

Thanks for all other constructive feedback.

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Updating my Introduction To Relict Hominids presentation...
What do you think of this concept?
Its just an idea...

Hey mate, i listened to that last presentation you did omg, your the best on that side of things..

Rusty skills in building stuff & technology.

Dont know my part but things just happen to me, not sure how or why.

I think if you me & Rusty got together we would works this out.

However you do your presentation i know it will be great..

Wish i could get over to listen to your presentation hope its filmed & posted again.

Cheers Mate Yowie Chaser..

Thanks for your kind words Yowie Chaserp

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Good idea and shows you're thinking outside the box.
Problem is H. Sapiens sapiens diverged from the common ancestor we likely share with H. Sapiens nocturnus (my favourite specie name) much longer ago than when we started domesticating canids.

Yes, convention states we domesticated dogs approx 35Kya. I dont suggest this was the point at which sapiens and yowie/sasquatch etc speciated from a common ancestor, rather Im speculating that this was the moment at which sapiens really gained the upper hand evolutionarily speaking. From that point on other existing Hominid species(likely several in a diversity of forms) began to both reduce in number and begin to see sapiens as no longer just the weaker, clever, hairless, annoying(potentially tasty) brother but rather as dangerous and started being pushed out of the better land(savannah, plains, fertile valleys, river deltas etc) and into the harsher, more remote corners from which we now get the majority of sightings.

[Austral]

I to thought your presentation was very interesting so thanks for doing them. Do you think along the same sort of lines as the book THEM AND US , by ( cant remember ) which is a fascinating insight or theory into some of our ingrained behaviours and why we have them and also touches into our relationship with dogs and where it started , because of Neanderthal preditation.
Cheers,

[Searcher]

Finally found a spare hour to view Bÿrn's presentation. Can be summed up in one word... BRILLIANT!

See for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caDh7WHZCUQ