Mark Barton's encounter

[Pertys80]

G'day everyone, just thought I'd share an interview by Bigfoot Odyssey's Kerry Arnold.. He has recently interviewed Mark Barton from the YT channel Trail To Bigfoot.. For some of you this might not mean much, but for myself this is the most thought provoking and scariest interview I have heard on the subject..
I had to listen to it twice to get a better idea, but its now to the point that I'm honestly thinking about throwing the towel in with the boots on the ground stuff anyway, ill let it digest a little and see where I go from there..
A must watch for all....

https://youtu.be/yhohCWLJQIo

[Quite Observer]

I saw this interview, I got the same impression.
It was very thought provoking.
The weird thing about it was why was he so emotional talking to Kerry while recalling it?
I have seen other videos from just after this happened to a few days before this video was shot and he is no where as emotional and has no issues talking about it.
this made me question it and maybe he has other things going on in his life.

[sensesonfire]

G'day everyone, just thought I'd share an interview by Bigfoot Odyssey's Kerry Arnold.. He has recently interviewed Mark Barton from the YT channel Trail To Bigfoot.. For some of you this might not mean much, but for myself this is the most thought provoking and scariest interview I have heard on the subject..
I had to listen to it twice to get a better idea, but its now to the point that I'm honestly thinking about throwing the towel in with the boots on the ground stuff anyway, ill let it digest a little and see where I go from there..
A must watch for all....
https://youtu.be/yhohCWLJQIo

Hi Pertys80, this is indeed a groundbreaking video and if you don't mind I'm going to reference it on the Controversial section of the Forum not only because it gives me more freedom to discuss the video but I believe because of the subject matter it is probably more appropriate well to me anyway. Because of the emotive state of Mark, it was a little difficult getting through it especially at 1 hour 55 minutes but it was worth the effort.

[Quite Observer]

Here is a little more collaboration of Marks experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Hw4qkO4RM

I hadnt seen this video before I posted.

[Bluedog]

Thanks for sharing Pertys80, very thought provoking interview, Mark is clearly still traumatised by his experience. I wish the man well and hope for his sake he seeks help to work through it. His account and experience go along way to answering the missing 411 accounts described by David Paulides in his books.
This is definitely a topic best discussed in the controversial section of this site.

[Dion]

Thanks for sharing Pertys80, very thought provoking interview, Mark is clearly still traumatised by his experience. I wish the man well and hope for his sake he seeks help to work through it. His account and experience go along way to answering the missing 411 accounts described by David Paulides in his books.
This is definitely a topic best discussed in the controversial section of this site.

Moved thread topic to the AYR - Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter Discussion.

[Pertys80]

Yeah sorry about that, I should've known better, I was just caught up in the moment..
I do hope that everyone weighs in on this and gives their two cents worth, I also look forward to more coverage about this in the near future..

[adventurer]

WOW--interesting. I cant go into this much because iv been asked not to but a friend that had come out yowie hunting with us had a small similar situation.The yowies mind spoke to him at home and told him not to ever discuss his findings about them. He new hed be dead if he spoke openly, he completely stopped discussing it even with me after i asked him to come out and let people know. This friend is in the same mind space as Marks and doesnt leave his house.Bad stuff had happened to him. This video reminds me of it all again.

[Pertys80]

WOW--interesting. I cant go into this much because iv been asked not to but a friend that had come out yowie hunting with us had a small similar situation.The yowies mind spoke to him at home and told him not to ever discuss his findings about them. He new hed be dead if he spoke openly, he completely stopped discussing it even with me after i asked him to come out and let people know. This friend is in the same mind space as Marks and doesnt leave his house.Bad stuff had happened to him. This video reminds me of it all again.

When I heard Mark's encounter for the first time, I immediately thought of the activity you have been getting up your way. Would be good to get a little more detail about your friends encounter without giving his identity away, but I can understand. Please be careful while you're out there mate..

[adventurer]

WOW--interesting. I cant go into this much because iv been asked not to but a friend that had come out yowie hunting with us had a small similar situation.The yowies mind spoke to him at home and told him not to ever discuss his findings about them. He new hed be dead if he spoke openly, he completely stopped discussing it even with me after i asked him to come out and let people know. This friend is in the same mind space as Marks and doesnt leave his house.Bad stuff had happened to him. This video reminds me of it all again.

When I heard Mark's encounter for the first time, I immediately thought of the activity you have been getting up your way. Would be good to get a little more detail about your friends encounter without giving his identity away, but I can understand. Please be careful while you're out there mate..

Hi and thanks. I gotto tell you, it sure put the wind up me, not sure whether to go out now tuesday night now, considering theres only Ron and i going.
So many similarities here between Mark and us. I dont know the man and unsure if its true.
Iv always said that they will never harm us as they have had many opportunities and havnt, but now know they know there going to get more visits out there from us.

Iv heard that knocking 360 degrees around us, iv known where they stand, they have called us in a lot!, and we have followed, that time we heard a baby cry, i was late getting home and didnt investigate. The first year of me out there also got more activity then others like he said in 20 yrs.
I thought i was special, i too thought they liked us, iv been touched on several occasions too, look and nothing there. I thought we had a connection and developed good communication with them too, our FRIENDS! We have seen the physical evidence too.
I thought they must have been(next door) in another dimension, literally 1 step away is where they are in another world.
We have been fooled to turn in a different direction by going around a tree on track that they just pushed down, they have kept us out of a certain area as 1 week later it looked as if a path had been completely cut of with bush that looked like it had been overgrown for years.
I now look back at a lot of things that have happened and it resignates with Marks words.

The only difference is iv never been a hunter, i could never kill a animal, gloat and hang it on my wall . Not thats why he became prey, and i have never yet seen a cloaked figure.A white solid ghostly thing--yes.

I dont know if im right but Mark may be good as dead now by opening up to everyone.My friend was adament when he told me what happened at his house after yowie hunting that "They knew" he was talking to me about it (via phone). I thought why did they not kill Mark prior, but he said he was groomed, a better kill, because he knew more about them first prior to the kill. They kill so they dont speak to much and that what Marks now doing.

Im going to call my friend "Darren", after a bad yowie hunting( metaphore) night we felt we were being hunted, Darren lost it out there, we thought we wouldnt get out alive. We were investigating a new area. There was no way of running as the scrub and climbing was to steep, so we just walked one step at a time turning, watching for them. Spinning around in circles with torches.It wasnt a long way back to the car, but was a strenuous walk, one for fit people.These hairees ( i think 2-3 ) were silent and close, they were not scared of to leave us.We got in the car and left, as we left i remember looking back and it was pure white. The fog was thick as we drove of.
IM not sure how long after, maybe 2 nights, i got a call from Darren, a male, clearly struggling to tell me"They had come to his home".Ill tell it with what i can remember in his words.Quote:
They came to my home, i was laying in my bed still awake late at night, when 1 ducked under my doorway and entered my side. I couldnt move, like i was stunned or something, i just couldnt move. Then they opened my skull and looked into my brain, collecting data/ information. I was wide awake but like paralized. They mind spoke to me, they said they know everything, what we do, where we live, who we talk to, what we are thinking, what sort of person we are. They said i am never to enter there domain again ( the bush) and what we saw and knew was never to be talked about. It was very clear with there tone to basically Forget about them. They put my head back together and left the same way, ducking under my bedroom door.

Darren did not discuss what they looked like but said it was the hairees. This short conversation was a hour phone call to tell me this short discussion. He kept balking, extremely upset and very scared to tell me. Every few minutes he said to me "they will come back to me, i shouldnt be telling you, they know im talking to you". I cannot explain enough the struggle in his voice, i didnt talk to much so he would keep continuing. He said he couldnt chat to me anymore in the future about the hairees. He said a hello call would be ok.
I contacted him not long ago and asked for a interview, asked him to tell his story, not by video but by a voice recorder and he would never have to state his name, he declined.Again the struggle in his voice he knew he would get more visits if he did wrong.
He said he wont go to sleep now without a light on and his bedroom tv on! He will never enter the bush again.
Thats as much as i can say without going into his personal stuff, sorry.

Ron and i have never had a visit from the hairees nore have ever felt they have been around our houses. I am on acreage and semi back onto the glasshouse mountains qld so plenty of opportunity for them to come down through the bushland to me on my property.
I feel they knew Darren wouldnt go back but new Ron and i would be back out so maybe maybe thats why we dont get visits????

Im at ends now about going out, im mean what if this stuff is really happening, i dont know Mark, but as i said its one to change my mind.Iv sent Marks you tube video to Ron, to see what he thinks and we can discuss our future events. Thanks again Dee

[Pertys80]

WOW--interesting. I cant go into this much because iv been asked not to but a friend that had come out yowie hunting with us had a small similar situation.The yowies mind spoke to him at home and told him not to ever discuss his findings about them. He new hed be dead if he spoke openly, he completely stopped discussing it even with me after i asked him to come out and let people know. This friend is in the same mind space as Marks and doesnt leave his house.Bad stuff had happened to him. This video reminds me of it all again.

When I heard Mark's encounter for the first time, I immediately thought of the activity you have been getting up your way. Would be good to get a little more detail about your friends encounter without giving his identity away, but I can understand. Please be careful while you're out there mate..

Hi and thanks. I gotto tell you, it sure put the wind up me, not sure whether to go out now tuesday night now, considering theres only Ron and i going.
So many similarities here between Mark and us. I dont know the man and unsure if its true.
Iv always said that they will never harm us as they have had many opportunities and havnt, but now know they know there going to get more visits out there from us.

Iv heard that knocking 360 degrees around us, iv known where they stand, they have called us in a lot!, and we have followed, that time we heard a baby cry, i was late getting home and didnt investigate. The first year of me out there also got more activity then others like he said in 20 yrs.
I thought i was special, i too thought they liked us, iv been touched on several occasions too, look and nothing there. I thought we had a connection and developed good communication with them too, our FRIENDS! We have seen the physical evidence too.
I thought they must have been(next door) in another dimension, literally 1 step away is where they are in another world.
We have been fooled to turn in a different direction by going around a tree on track that they just pushed down, they have kept us out of a certain area as 1 week later it looked as if a path had been completely cut of with bush that looked like it had been overgrown for years.
I now look back at a lot of things that have happened and it resignates with Marks words.

The only difference is iv never been a hunter, i could never kill a animal, gloat and hang it on my wall . Not thats why he became prey, and i have never yet seen a cloaked figure.A white solid ghostly thing--yes.

I dont know if im right but Mark may be good as dead now by opening up to everyone.My friend was adament when he told me what happened at his house after yowie hunting that "They knew" he was talking to me about it (via phone). I thought why did they not kill Mark prior, but he said he was groomed, a better kill, because he knew more about them first prior to the kill. They kill so they dont speak to much and that what Marks now doing.

Im going to call my friend "Darren", after a bad yowie hunting( metaphore) night we felt we were being hunted, Darren lost it out there, we thought we wouldnt get out alive. We were investigating a new area. There was no way of running as the scrub and climbing was to steep, so we just walked one step at a time turning, watching for them. Spinning around in circles with torches.It wasnt a long way back to the car, but was a strenuous walk, one for fit people.These hairees ( i think 2-3 ) were silent and close, they were not scared of to leave us.We got in the car and left, as we left i remember looking back and it was pure white. The fog was thick as we drove of.
IM not sure how long after, maybe 2 nights, i got a call from Darren, a male, clearly struggling to tell me"They had come to his home".Ill tell it with what i can remember in his words.Quote:
They came to my home, i was laying in my bed still awake late at night, when 1 ducked under my doorway and entered my side. I couldnt move, like i was stunned or something, i just couldnt move. Then they opened my skull and looked into my brain, collecting data/ information. I was wide awake but like paralized. They mind spoke to me, they said they know everything, what we do, where we live, who we talk to, what we are thinking, what sort of person we are. They said i am never to enter there domain again ( the bush) and what we saw and knew was never to be talked about. It was very clear with there tone to basically Forget about them. They put my head back together and left the same way, ducking under my bedroom door.

Darren did not discuss what they looked like but said it was the hairees. This short conversation was a hour phone call to tell me this short discussion. He kept balking, extremely upset and very scared to tell me. Every few minutes he said to me "they will come back to me, i shouldnt be telling you, they know im talking to you". I cannot explain enough the struggle in his voice, i didnt talk to much so he would keep continuing. He said he couldnt chat to me anymore in the future about the hairees. He said a hello call would be ok.
I contacted him not long ago and asked for a interview, asked him to tell his story, not by video but by a voice recorder and he would never have to state his name, he declined.Again the struggle in his voice he knew he would get more visits if he did wrong.
He said he wont go to sleep now without a light on and his bedroom tv on! He will never enter the bush again.
Thats as much as i can say without going into his personal stuff, sorry.

Ron and i have never had a visit from the hairees nore have ever felt they have been around our houses. I am on acreage and semi back onto the glasshouse mountains qld so plenty of opportunity for them to come down through the bushland to me on my property.
I feel they knew Darren wouldnt go back but new Ron and i would be back out so maybe maybe thats why we dont get visits????

Im at ends now about going out, im mean what if this stuff is really happening, i dont know Mark, but as i said its one to change my mind.Iv sent Marks you tube video to Ron, to see what he thinks and we can discuss our future events. Thanks again Dee

Wow Dee, I'm speechless... Thanks for sharing this invaluable info, just goes to show how much we don't know about this subject. Having a "flesh n blood" only attitude (as I once did), only does a disservice to it imo.

[adventurer]

It would be awesome if everyday people could go in and use a lie detector test. That would be awesome. Im not saying either were lying at all, just would prove what there saying was reality.

[adventurer]

I just watched a you tube chanel on mark"Learn the Signs of Paranormal Predators. They will follow you..."
Wonder why he was prey, he shoots marbles at the bigfoot, he had no respect for them, of course he was prey. The girls never did hence why Mark stated bigfoot said the girls were not prey.Im going to look further into his videos and see how exactly he interacts with the hairees now.

[Pertys80]

I just watched a you tube chanel on mark"Learn the Signs of Paranormal Predators. They will follow you..."
Wonder why he was prey, he shoots marbles at the bigfoot, he had no respect for them, of course he was prey. The girls never did hence why Mark stated bigfoot said the girls were not prey.Im going to look further into his videos and see how exactly he interacts with the hairees now.

I'm not so sure he was talking about actually shooting them with marbles, although I can't be sure as I haven't watched all of their content. They do have an old fridge out there where they place things like marbles and balls on it, perhaps that's what Mark was talking about.
The term shooting marbles generally refers to flicking them while playing the game.
Either way, would be a good idea to watch all of their content to see if they possibly did cross the line somewhere.

[Bluedog]

Mark Barton's experience is deeply disturbing on so many levels. It raises so many questions. We have so many encounters that describe a non human primate and then we get experiences like these that are paranormal and really make you question if these creatures are inter dimensional. I know in the last few years my thoughts on the subject have changed dramatically. Are we dealing with 2 different creatures? It is getting incredibly hard to believe that there is a non human primate in the forests and jungles of the world and we have no definitive proof of its existence. We are going further down the rabbit hole with no answers coming any time soon if ever.

[Rusty2]

This is an opinion .

Looking at the whole thing I believe what Chris and Betty were saying , they both sound credible . For me it isn't a big surprise , I've had to leave a number of areas after hopping out of the car because of a bad feeling or "bad vibes" , it was pretty obvious .

On the other hand , I believe I was feeding a group of yowies and never felt in harm or in danger in any way except for the very first time I heard the stomping . The stomping turned out to be a normal thing , it happened most times I hopped out of the car over a sixteen month period . I actually got the distinct feeling of family when I was there .

What I find interesting is that what they're talking about isn't bigfoot . It isn't yowies , it isn't demons or the nephilim , so what is it ? Chris was questioned about grey's but didn't know .

Mark doesn't think it's bigfoot , he's talking about " the masters" .
"...and while we're all lookin at this hairy beast (sasquatch) , and all caught up in the hairy beast , we're being groomed for the kill ...............that hairy beast is not gonna kill you , the masters will kill your ass"

Mark also mentions a "cloaked figure" and "whispery creatures" a number of times and "a HOODED cloaked figure running between trees" . Later in the video he says " I've been asked are they nephilim , are they demons and I'll tell you the truth , they're not , I had no sense they were demonic " He also says " the whispery creatures are the masters and the hairy beast is , what , the entertaimnet ".

Chris also sees "a black cloaked figure , which is dog height " and they "touched him " . Logan says he saw " a figure standing there in a dark HOOD " . Betty see's something dark "approaching her in the kitchen" and "pixelation" at the swamp . Chris also says "entities" .

The host says , "you've gone through this experience , these masters , which are NOT the hairy beast , they were holding you down , they were taking something from you , right , while they were holding you down , this was the process of killing you correct ? "
Mark , "yeah" .

There also seems to be a correlation to Mark's encounter and the missing people in national parks as Bluedog mentioned .

Most of us have a "truth bias" where we'd like to believe what people are saying . So , if they're telling the truth , then what is it that they're talking about because it clearly isn't bigfoot , bigfoot seems to be the distraction , not the killers .

So , why wasn't I touched , why didn't I see any hooded creatures , why did I feel safe ?

[sensesonfire]

I watched a video a while back about a woman in Queensland who was renting a house from a farmer she had constant visits from "Yowies" and she noticed periodically they were in the company of demonic type creatures. These supernatural creatures accompany each. Another story from two brothers in the US who had houses side by side they were being harassed by Bigfoot so they employed a psychic who was a converted Christian she told them to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to command them to stay away from their property which they did and no more harassment but the brothers could here the Bigfoot roaring like lions on the back perimeters of the paddocks.

The brothers sighted an old woman more than once with oversized clown like shoes taking a short cut across their land. They yelled for her to stop but she took no notice then one day one brother said to her I command you to stop and when she turned to look at him he said she had the most evil demonic face. Once again this demonic entity was in the company of the Bigfoot.


Mark also mentions a "cloaked figure" and "whispery creatures" a number of times and "a HOODED cloaked figure running between trees". Later in the video he says " I've been asked are they Nephilim, are they demons and I'll tell you the truth, they're not, I had no sense they were demonic. So I ask Mark what on earth are they then if not demonic entities what- people playing games? How does he know they are not Nephilim or demon related?
Chris also sees "a black-cloaked figure, which is dog height " and they "touched him ". Logan says he saw " a figure standing there in a dark HOOD ". Betty sees something dark "approaching her in the kitchen" and "pixelation" at the swamp. Chris also says "entities" well entities are demonic they certainly are not people playing games.

And we all seem to be conveniently side-stepping Dee's friend Darren's absolutely horrifying encounter back at his house with what he described as the hairies. Darren states: They came to my home, i was laying in my bed still awake late at night, when 1 ducked under my doorway and entered my side. I couldnt move, like i was stunned or something, i just couldnt move. Then they opened my skull and looked into my brain, collecting data/ information. I was wide awake but like paralized. They mind spoke to me, they said they know everything, what we do, where we live, who we talk to, what we are thinking, what sort of person we are. They said i am never to enter there domain again ( the bush) and what we saw and knew was never to be talked about. It was very clear with there tone to basically Forget about them. They put my head back together and left the same way, ducking under my bedroom door.
People have to start moving away from trying to rationalize what these creatures because there is mounting information suggesting they are more than flesh and blood.

I'll repeat demons do accompany these cryptid creatures

[Rusty2]

I don't want to start an argument Sense's , I'd like to know who the perpetrator is . Mark seems to be saying that bigfoot is an accomplice not the perpetrator . Mark also said " I had no sense they (the masters) were demonic " .

If we think about it in a workplace or jobsite setting , and from what Mark was saying , bigfoot may be an employee , a subcontractor . Unrelated to the perp but hired to do a specific job in return for benefits . As unbelievable as this all is , to me , that would be plausible . Outcasts living in dark places helping each other out or being forced to help each other . Maybe bigfoot is a victim , being coerced or forced or blackmailed into do something against it's will . Even that would be plausible if all this were true .

Darren's encounter sounds like the same actions from the same perp's but he's not saying demons either . I don't know the exact details of Darren's encounter but yes , he seems to be saying it was yowies who assaulted him .

How does he (Mark) know they are not Nephilim or demon related ?
I'm guessing that if your "raped" by "the masters" your gonna get a good feel for who it is that is rapeing you .

How does Darren know it was yowies who assaulted him ? Has Mark got it wrong or did Darren get it wrong ?

People have to start moving away from trying to rationalize what these creatures because there is mounting information suggesting they are more than flesh and blood.
There's something you haven't considered . Satan gives blessings too . Maybe yowies and bigfoot are being granted access to special abilties as payment for services . Did you consider that ?

Is the perpetrator someone or something were not aware of or know little about ?

[adventurer]

Pertsy80
I have watched some of Marks videos so far.
Mark did shoot the Marbles at Bigfoot and did so regularly, he asked his watches not to comment and say it was cruelty as it wouldnt hurt them.
My opinion is he had no respect for the creatures, the group walked all through the hairees turf, close to the trees, around the trees, basically they didnt stick to a track or make a track to stick to, they didnt stay in routine either.
A yowie can keep track of you and have plenty of observation points on us if we stick to the same patterns ( getting the trust to eventually obtain communication). In Marks case the yowies had to keep constantly on the ball with his team all over the place, which would make the yowie uneasy and makes the yowie have no trust nore be able to come closer for any communication. As it was the yowies would have been pissed with marbles flying at them. Maybe the females were just wonderers to the yowie and the men were the enemies?

Rusty,
I understand it wasnt the hairees that were the killers but however they became the helper there not exactly trustworthy when time comes for them to help with the job, and thats a concern, maybe they needed more time for people like you and me to attend the bush even more before the cloaked ones showed themselves to us and for the killer to then come out. Like mark had said, they can wait years to make us a better kill.
I watch a lot of real life shows and a lot of the time when a lady gets raped they dont know if its a school teacher or a president, the raper can stay silent and are serial killers.So Mark not knowing if they were demonic was no suprise to me.

Hi Senses,
Iv heard about this before (Maybe it was from you a while back)

"I watched a video a while back about a woman in Queensland who was renting a house from a farmer she had constant visits from "Yowies" and she noticed periodically they were in the company of demonic type creatures. These supernatural creatures accompany each. Another story from two brothers in the US who had houses side by side they were being harassed by Bigfoot so they employed a psychic who was a converted Christian she told them to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to command them to stay away from their property which they did and no more harassment but the brothers could here the Bigfoot roaring like lions on the back perimeters of the paddocks.

The brothers sighted an old woman more than once with oversized clown like shoes taking a short cut across their land. They yelled for her to stop but she took no notice then one day one brother said to her I command you to stop and when she turned to look at him he said she had the most evil demonic face. Once again this demonic entity was in the company of the Bigfoot."

I had always remembered it and used the words "I command you" on a couple of occasions in which have worked.
When mark and Chris spoke about Entities maybe there both confused. I myself thought entities were just non human/ spiritual world beings. I thought all along entities were ghosts, demons, good and bad entities, i never realised entities were demonic.

If Marks story is real, i think your onto something whats written in that bible. Best of luck.
Dee

[Rusty2]

I understand it wasnt the hairees that were the killers but however they became the helper there not exactly trustworthy when time comes for them to help with the job, and thats a concern,

Yes , it's concerning , but we don't know the whole story and there's always 2 sides . I think the answer to our questions isn't as black and white as many may think . As I mentioned before , yowies and bigfoot may be being forced into the nasty deed .

I watch a lot of real life shows and a lot of the time when a lady gets raped they dont know if its a school teacher or a president, the raper can stay silent and are serial killers.

Yep , sure .

So Mark not knowing if they were demonic was no suprise to me.

Mark said they weren't demonic , Chris said he didn't know .

I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone here but I can tell you from bitter experience that labelling things we don't fully understand is a bad idea .

[adventurer]

I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone here but I can tell you from bitter experience that labelling things we don't fully understand is a bad idea .
Hi Rusty, i thought it was a healthy conversation, not trying to label anything. There just my opinions.Dee

[Rusty2]

Hi Rusty, i thought it was a healthy conversation

Awesome , people are so sensitive these days , difficult to tell : )

[Austral]

Be bloody careful out there Dee. The whole video reminded me of your adventures. It was a blow when Mark mentioned he won’t reveal the truth for years though but I’m not sure i want to know it either now.

[Pertys80]

Great discussion guys

Be bloody careful out there Dee. The whole video reminded me of your adventures. It was a blow when Mark mentioned he won’t reveal the truth for years though but I’m not sure i want to know it either now.

You'll find the first video in the thread is Mark coming out of the closet so to speak, the latter is his team discussing what happened months prior to the bigfoot odyssey show..

As for the demonic argument, the way I see our reality is it is entirely constructed from all forms of duality..
What we might see as wrong, is completely fine with others..
Look at our psychopathic puppet masters for example, they think what they're doing is for the greater good..lol

[adventurer]

Be bloody careful out there Dee. The whole video reminded me of your adventures. It was a blow when Mark mentioned he won’t reveal the truth for years though but I’m not sure i want to know it either now.

Thanks mate, i am feeling very uneasy. Ill be walking on egg shells from now on, just set up another cam this morning to wear on my back. Dont think ill even walk in the whole way for a while, ill just get to the creek bank and back. Ill do a video as well. Up and down whether to still go tonight.Dee

[sensesonfire]

I don't want to start an argument Sense's , I'd like to know who the perpetrator is . Mark seems to be saying that bigfoot is an accomplice not the perpetrator . Mark also said " I had no sense they (the masters) were demonic " .

If we think about it in a workplace or jobsite setting , and from what Mark was saying , bigfoot may be an employee , a subcontractor . Unrelated to the perp but hired to do a specific job in return for benefits . As unbelievable as this all is , to me , that would be plausible . Outcasts living in dark places helping each other out or being forced to help each other . Maybe bigfoot is a victim , being coerced or forced or blackmailed into do something against it's will . Even that would be plausible if all this were true .

Darren's encounter sounds like the same actions from the same perp's but he's not saying demons either . I don't know the exact details of Darren's encounter but yes , he seems to be saying it was yowies who assaulted him .

How does he (Mark) know they are not Nephilim or demon related ?
I'm guessing that if your "raped" by "the masters" your gonna get a good feel for who it is that is rapeing you .

How does Darren know it was yowies who assaulted him ? Has Mark got it wrong or did Darren get it wrong ?

People have to start moving away from trying to rationalize what these creatures because there is mounting information suggesting they are more than flesh and blood.
There's something you haven't considered . Satan gives blessings too . Maybe yowies and bigfoot are being granted access to special abilties as payment for services . Did you consider that ?

Is the perpetrator someone or something were not aware of or know little about ?

Hi Rusty,
I have to admit that I did not watch all of Mark's video because of his mental state I found it somewhat incoherrent at times. He was under extreme duress while relating the story to us so the extreme terror he was enduring at the hands of his tormentors may have resulted in some observations being a little distorted.

Rusty2, you say

What I find interesting is that what they're talking about isn't bigfoot . It isn't yowies , it isn't demons or the nephilim , so what is it ? Chris was questioned about grey's but didn't know .

Mark doesn't think it's bigfoot , he's talking about " the masters" .
"...and while we're all lookin at this hairy beast (sasquatch) , and all caught up in the hairy beast , we're being groomed for the kill ...............that hairy beast is not gonna kill you , the masters will kill your ass"[Unqote]

This is certainly an indication of confusion especially Mark and Chris's idea as to what entities, demons. Bigfoot are. I have no doubt that Bigfoot/Yowie are under subjugation from a higher demonic force maybe this is what they called the masters.

It was a little while back that themanfromglad warned of the dangers of rape from one of these creatures (Bigfoot/Yowie) and no surprise to me because that is exactly what the Nephilim engaged in both human and animal.
The Native American tribes know exactly what Bigfoot is capable of and that includes rape that is one reason why they abducted the tribal women and I suspect the same with Australian indigenous folk regarding Yowies they too had women and children taken. Bigfoot was not tagged with those terrifying names they were given unless they earned it.

[Dion]

I have not watched the videos so cannot comment on the exact details of Marks dealings, but have read all the comments here in thread.

There are many unexplainable things in this world such as the creatures that roam it which have different personalities, not all is Good and not all is Evil.

But if the intent is there to frighten somebody into a mental breakdown such as what I believe Mark may be going through then the intent would not be good would it.

This phenomenon of research into Yowie, Bigfoot et el can have devastating consequences for some, it changes people sometimes for the good sometimes for the bad and if you go down the rabbit hole to far sometimes you dont come out the other end with a proper mindset. Thats the risk you take. Many people dont recover from such experiences. And I am afraid Mark may have gone down the hole to far.

Personal experience, I have found the Bible to hold a few clues to the phenomenon and to give a bit of peace to mind, just my opinion.

Doesnt make me right however so do your own research.

[Rusty2]

Hi Rusty,
I have to admit that I did not watch all of Mark's video because of his mental state I found it somewhat incoherrent at times. He was under extreme duress while relating the story to us so the extreme terror he was enduring at the hands of his tormentors may have resulted in some observations being a little distorted.

All good mate : ) He has obviously been disturbed greatly by his encounter .

This is certainly an indication of confusion especially Mark and Chris's idea as to what entities, demons. Bigfoot are. I have no doubt that Bigfoot/Yowie are under subjugation from a higher demonic force maybe this is what they called the masters.

That may very well be the case .

It was a little while back that themanfromglad warned of the dangers of rape from one of these creatures (Bigfoot/Yowie) and no surprise to me because that is exactly what the Nephilim engaged in both human and animal.
The Native American tribes know exactly what Bigfoot is capable of and that includes rape that is one reason why they abducted the tribal women and I suspect the same with Australian indigenous folk regarding Yowies they too had women and children taken. Bigfoot was not tagged with those terrifying names they were given unless they earned it.

This is the problem I have . Bigfoot is bigfoot . Demons are demons and yowies are yowies . Bigfoot isn't Nephilim otherwise it wouldn't be called bigfoot , right ? Same goes for "the hairy man" , he's not called Nephilim for a reason . So although yowies and bigfoot might be involved in these assaults , it doesn't mean they're Nephilim . I'm sure the indigenous peoples of the planet would name them Nephilim if that's what they actually were .

Again , I'm not having a shot at you but would caution labelling things we don't yet fully understand . I suspect there's quite a complicated explanation to what's actually happening and would suggest that nothing is black and white . : )

There are many unexplainable things in this world

I think that's the essence of this entire thread .

[Austral]

Great discussion guys

Be bloody careful out there Dee. The whole video reminded me of your adventures. It was a blow when Mark mentioned he won’t reveal the truth for years though but I’m not sure i want to know it either now.

You'll find the first video in the thread is Mark coming out of the closet so to speak, the latter is his team discussing what happened months prior to the bigfoot odyssey show..

As for the demonic argument, the way I see our reality is it is entirely constructed from all forms of duality..
What we might see as wrong, is completely fine with others..
Look at our psychopathic puppet masters for example, they think what they're doing is for the greater good..lol

Cheers mate, just watched all that one,now I’m freaked out a bit. I think this is a big step towards the truth but a big step back in understanding.

[sensesonfire]

Rusty2 wrote. I'm sure the indigenous peoples of the planet would name them Nephilim if that's what they actually were .

Rusty, without trying to sound politically incorrect but I would imagine most, particularly the early indigenous folk would have had no idea who the Nephilim actually were.