...Yowie environment ...a curious question on my part...

[stickyfingers]

...being that I am more or less a "Yowie newbie " to this section I was wondering if anybody would mind if I ask a rather simple and perhaps naive question regarding Yowies natural habitat or "living quarters"...

...does anybody have any ideas or even any sighted evidence of where Yowies live regarding their sleeping arrangements?... what they would consider to be their "homes" or "nests"? ... do they reside in caves maybe?... or mineshafts?... old railway tunnels?... rockfaces or open crags on hillsides?... perhaps they just sleep out in the open under the stars?... or possibly under crude structures that they have built from branches and leaf canopies?...

...I'm thinking that perhaps this question has obviously been heavily discussed in some part of the Yowie Discussion Board at one time or another... but there are about 3 trillion threads within these forums and I am yet to discover them ... if anybody can answer either my questions or just post the link to the relevant thread ...I would greatly appreciate it peoples...cheers...Stickyfingers.

[Dion]

Hey Sticky

I’m pretty sure this topic hasn’t been discussed before.

...does anybody have any ideas or even any sighted evidence of where Yowies live regarding their sleeping arrangements?... what they would consider to be their "homes" or "nests"? ... do they reside in caves maybe?... or mineshafts?... old railway tunnels?... rockfaces or open crags on hillsides?... perhaps they just sleep out in the open under the stars?... or possibly under crude structures that they have built from branches and leaf canopies?...

Yeah your spot on sticky as far as I know they pretty much use any sleeping arrangement like what you have suggested. I’m sure I have read numerus accounts of Sasquatch in the States sleeping in all kinds of places. But the main ones here in Australia are probably stick structures, beds made out of grass and caves. I know of one case where a Yowie was observed by some boys sleeping in a large thicket of lantana. I think it’s here on this site somewhere?

There is some question though in the States as of where they go in winter months when it snows. I’d like to know how they survive in such cold weather. Especially in places where there are no caves around.

Also, as far as I know they are nomadic so they pretty much move from site to site probably due to seasonal factors, like food, trying to find a mate, etc. So they must be able to find a new bed for themselves at such short notice.

[deadpool]

I'd say just like me when i'm drunk, anywhere comfortable.

I'd say caves and those stick structures too. Or in the summer, a nice flat patch to curl up in. Kind of like gorillas perhaps? Nests & so forth.

[lil foot]

actually yowies prefer the top bunk, as in case file 264 in the book THE YOWIE.
a real life case of "whos been sleeping in my bed" one pissed off yowie.
do yourself a favour sticky fingers and get ya hands on this book, an exellent read for us newbies.
like we set up nesting boxes for possums and birds, maybe we could put a few double bunks in the bush for our hairy friends

[Dion]

I just looked up that case 264 of “The Yowie” Seems your right lil foot our friend the yowie was supposedly using a bunk bed in an old log cabin and got a little testy at the sight of others using it.

Just goes to show they will adapt to there surroundings and use any means of a sleeping arrangement.

And your right lil foot the book is “priceless” in a literal sense, well recommended!

[Dion]

I know of one case where a Yowie was observed by some boys sleeping in a large thicket of lantana. I think it’s here on this site somewhere?

Come to think of it that case of the boys finding a Yowie in the lantana is not on this site (I don’t think anyway) but in “The Yowie” By Paul Cropper and Tony Healy, after a quick search its case number 233; there are also cases 154 and 199 which relate to Yowie bed made out of grass and sticks.

For all that are interested

[stickyfingers]

I'd say just like me when i'm drunk, anywhere comfortable.

I'd say caves and those stick structures too. Or in the summer, a nice flat patch to curl up in. Kind of like gorillas perhaps? Nests & so forth.

...lol...been there ...done that deadpool!!!...funny as...wow ...that book sounds interesting...**mental note to oneself...SELF...methinks maybe I should read that book!**... from some of the descriptions that you guys have mentioned...I have to think that Yowies are basically opportunists and reside wherever we are not!...

...now I have to wonder just how advanced in their thinking they are when it comes to their building some sort of canopy... if they are nomadic and opportunitists...I suppose that it would comprise of a basic structure of a few branches with a leaf canopy perhaps???... another thought that just popped into my head... could it explain why there are a lot of broken branches in the bush???...they walk up to a branch...snap it and say..."nah!...not strong enough!"...and move onto the next tree???...

...I'm probably reading too much into this perhaps???...but hey peoples...keep the ideas coming in...they sound both credible and at the same time mystifying... cheers... Stickyfingers.

[Dion]

another thought that just popped into my head... could it explain why there are a lot of broken branches in the bush???...they walk up to a branch...snap it and say..."nah!...not strong enough!"...and move onto the next tree???...

There is some talk that broken or twisted branches are a territorial thing its away of marking their territory. I found a patch of broken trees up near Noojee a couple of times, seven or eight of them all in a bunch, snapped clean in half. Only a very, very strong man could have snapped those and that’s saying something. It could be that they snap the tree branches trying to catch possums out of the tree, it’s just a thought, but when you get a bunch of them altogether we can only speculate as to the reason for it. I have also heard of them impaling sticks in the ground, why they do this I do not know, could be another territorial thing.

They are also known to make Tipi's like structures out of sticks why this is done I also do not know.

The best thing about the yowie experience....sticky...... is you are always learning

[Dean Harrison]

In regard to shelter, as previously mentioned, they would obviously use rock over hangs, hollow trees and foliage covered fallen trees as we all would.

However in some very active areas that we have researched, we have also found many of these......



Agreed, could certainly be Human made. Interesting though. Not the variety of shelter that Children would make as a Cubby, but purposely designed for shelter and protection alone.

DMH

[topender]

i find myself looking at the bush envoiroment in a totally different way now, almost like a jungle commando, looking for subtle changes to the area that may indicate a happy hominid has been in the area, yeah i look with new eyes

[stickyfingers]

The best thing about the yowie experience....sticky...... is you are always learning

...boy Chewy...you're bang on with that statement my friend!!!... yeah some interesting theories on your part there...what you're saying makes a lot of sense...

...and Dean... great photo...where was that taken???... or perhaps then again... with the amount of photos that you have probably taken in all the years of your research...I don't really expect you to answer that lol!!!...

...hmmm...I wonder what Yowies would be thinking when they walk up to our houses ... look in through the windows... see us watching television while drinking a beer... "hmmm... maybe I need to upgrade to a higher standard of living quarters!"... methinks not!... more likely... "ha!... look at them humans...living in their big boxes...they have no idea what they're missing by living out here...fools!"...

...yeah ... I know...I'm raving on again... but seriously... I wonder what they DO think of human homes?... obviously ...unless we teach a Yowie to talk... we will never know!... and Topender... I agree with you...I will be too!... cheers... Stickyfingers.

[Dean Harrison]

Hi Sticky,

That photo was from Daisey Hill S.E. Qld, where I was charged by that one that followed me.

DMH

[Dean Harrison]

I managed to locate some pictures of the ant mound that I was referring to earlier.

Below is a picture of Dave Glenn that I took while at Mt Kembla when we discovered this mound. Dave is examining one of the sticks that was in a hand dug hole in the base.



Exhibit b) The hole and stick. Inside the hole, there were smaller holes where the sticks had been driven deep down into, to extract the ants.



Below is a closer look at the end of one of the sticks. The picture isn't too clear, however with the naked eyes, you can easily see the end has been chewed.



DMH

[topender]

if thats the case then it's typical primate behaviour, the chimpanzees at the zoo i worked at in melb used to do that to get small bugs from in the ground....interesting

[stickyfingers]

...thanks for that Dean...great photos... interesting stuff...after I saw the photos...you then got me thinking when you posted this...

Below is a closer look at the end of one of the sticks. The picture isn't too clear, however with the naked eyes, you can easily see the end has been chewed.

...would there of been any chance of getting some DNA saliva type samples on the stick... or would the weather have eroded the DNA away by the time you guys found them?... hmmmm... I think that I may have possibly answered my own question perhaps???... cheers...Stickyfingers.

[AussieTrev]

Question for Dean; Do you keep any of those sticks, like the one that Sticky pointed out, that was maybe chewed at the end? or any other strange finds?

[Dean Harrison]

This was obviously my foremost thought.

I researched the prospect with several experts, however it was deemed unplausible for reasons I can’t recall. The tip has remained untouched and the sample I believe is still in a plastic bag on a pallet, in storage.

DMH

[stickyfingers]

Question for Dean; Do you keep any of those sticks, like the one that Sticky pointed out, that was maybe chewed at the end? or any other strange finds?

...good question AussieTrev... I have to imagine that Dean would've accumulated a myriad of amazing things in his field trips from times gone past... have you guys ever found Yowie poo for example?... I have to imagine that if you have that there would be heaps of vegetable matter making up the bulk of it... I suppose that Yowies are Omnivores eating basically anything and everything available to them to survive...

...and what about other crudley made tools like the sticks mentioned?... like spear type weapons to catch possums to eat perhaps?... (assuming that they are Carnivores of course)...hmmm... the mind boggles...Stickyfingers.