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Rusty2 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:08 pm Hi Senses , I saw this and instantly thought of you .

The hypothesis of a dog-man sounds completely different when it comes from credible sources .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0qvnO3gls

Stories of purported dog-headed men go back well into history. Mostly referred to as the Cynocephali, and they feature heavily in stories going across cultures throughout the world, from ancient Egypt to ancient Greece, to medieval Europe and Africa, as well as in Christian mythology.
In around 400 BC, the Greek physician Ctesias wrote an intriguing and detailed account of the Cynocephali of the mountains of India, which was at the time known as Indica. In his account, he describes a tribe of people with the heads of dogs, who used a series of barks and snarls to communicate, although they could understand the language of humans, and who subsisted on raw meat. They were said to have teeth that were longer than those of dogs, as well as nails that were long, curved and rounded.
They do not live in houses but in caves. They set out for the chase with bows and spears, and as they are very swift of foot, they pursue and soon overtake their quarry. They have no beds but sleep on leaves or grass All, both men and women, have tails above their hips, like dogs, but longer and hairier. They are just, and live longer than any other men, 170, sometimes 200 years.

When Alexander the Great invaded India in the 4th century BC, he too claimed in letters to his teacher, Aristotle, that he had encountered the dog-headed men.
Alexander the Great even claimed to have captured several of the creatures in battle, which he said were fierce and vicious, barking and snarling beasts.
Other medieval writings mentioning the Cynocephali are Paul the Deacon’s Historia Gentis Langobardorum, in which he refers to them as a cannibalistic race of dog-headed savages that relish drinking blood and which wage war constantly.
Even the great explorer Marco Polo writes of the dog-headed people. While describing his travels to the island of Angamanian, he tells of a very strange race of people thus:
Angamanian is a very large island. The people are without a king and are Idolaters, and no better than wild beasts. And I assure you that all the men of this island have heads like dogs, and teeth and eyes likewise; in fact, they all look like big mastiff dogs! They have a number of spices; but are a cruelest generation, and eat everybody that they can catch, if not of their own race. Christopher Colombus also encountered these strange creatures.[Unquote]

It was also recorded that these dog-headed hybrids were recruited as mercenaries by the Indian tribes as they were well known for their bravery and ferociousness. This Carl guy also comments about how they put on armor well here's a pic showing just that notice the head shape and this was taken from an Egyptian mural

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Now, these dog-headed humans were transcribed as early as 400 BC right up to the time of Christopher Colombus and all give a similar account they can't all be mistaken.
The painting of the dog-headed men at the start of your video is a somewhat stylized/glamourized depiction.

Even if you want to accept this depiction notice the head and also the one in the picture it clearly indicates to me Nephilim/ Dog/Wolf genetic corruption.
I think this Carl guy should stick to what he does best which is ?

Rusty2 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:09 am Hi Senses , although I wasn't talking about Carl , I believe him to be credible . Regardless of what Carl believes I didn't realise there were credible historical accounts .

Second hand and third hand accounts from a physician , a Greek historian who was considered to be "the father of history" , a diplomat from the 4th century and Marco Polo . Two first hand accounts from a Franciscan friar and an early explorer .

It's obviously impossible to confirm any of these accounts but you would believe that Marco Polo could be taken at his word .

I thought it was interesting and just wanted to share it .

Rusty2 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:19 pm So , do you think that your dogman and the dogmen in the historic accounts aren't related ?

sensesonfire wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:51 pm the hyena, mandrill/baboon, and possibly the Bigfoot-type are not true Dogman but cryptids in their own right .

Rusty2 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:14 am

sensesonfire wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:51 pm the hyena, mandrill/baboon, and possibly the Bigfoot-type are not true Dogman but cryptids in their own right .

I think your right and my personal belief is that there are more than 2 types of yowie , possibly quite a number of different species .
Dean did mention a baboon type yowie encounter here somewhere long ago . I also believe there are yowie species with snouts , possibly wrongly identified as dogman although I couldn't prove it .

A woman once approached me about yowies in her area . She also described what her and her daughter witnessed one night late while driving on a forest road . She described an animal she'd never seen before , something with stripes but not a tazy tiger .

In the end , who really knows what's lurking in our forests and some may have never been seen by white Europeans .

bassplyr wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:12 pm Im open to thylacoleo still being around and laying low. Maybe something related is what your friend saw senses.

sensesonfire wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:36 am I've resurrected this video of Brenton Sawin's who has sadly passed on it's from the US, not Australia. The video was taken by a man wandering through his favourite part of a forest in Washington state. When he came home and ran the video he was amazed to discover images he did not notice during his walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbM-3bEx8

At 3:28 you will see a Dogman (circled) standing erect almost looking like a tree. These creatures are masters of camouflage and I do not believe this to be pareidolia. But even more, telling standing to the right of the circled figure I can see an enormous Dogman that appears to be leaning against a tree. I am surprised that this was not noted in the video.

themanfromglad wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:19 pm

sensesonfire wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:36 am I've resurrected this video of Brenton Sawin's who has sadly passed on it's from the US, not Australia. The video was taken by a man wandering through his favourite part of a forest in Washington state. When he came home and ran the video he was amazed to discover images he did not notice during his walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbM-3bEx8

At 3:28 you will see a Dogman (circled) standing erect almost looking like a tree. These creatures are masters of camouflage and I do not believe this to be pareidolia. But even more, telling standing to the right of the circled figure I can see an enormous Dogman that appears to be leaning against a tree. I am surprised that this was not noted in the video.

The supposed overhead view of a pair of dogmen thick brush, is simply a missidentification of two stumps with flowers and vines growing out of them. The Gable film was admitted to be a hoax by the instigators.

Muser wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:54 am First post!

This is all a bit interesting, isn't it? Bigfoot, yowies, mothman and dogman etc...all trace back to the Nephilim.

I do have some questions...if we're using the bible to gather evidence.

My musings are as follows...

How did the Nephilim, or any of their offspring survive Noah's flood? Anything of animal life to survive the flood had to have been in the ark. All these creatures "came to Noah" (Gen.7:15), so that the selection of individuals and of species was entirely God-made. Therefore the chance of any taint of this angelic seed still existing on earth is impossible - that was the whole reason for the universal flood, i.e., not only to irreversibly and entirely eradicate this monstrous group, but also to make clear to posterity that they had been dramatically and unquestionably destroyed by God Himself.

If we are to believe the bible...that all perished in the great flood. Then you would also have to believe that any giants around after the flood were not anything to do with the Nephilim. Goliath and his ilk were abnormal in size but that is all(i.e., they were 100% human). Other Canaanite peoples are recorded as being likewise far above average in their physical size, but they too are only abnormal humans with no exceptional powers. Just like the giants that live amongst us today.

The spies who entered Canaan and brought back the bad report to the children of Israel do call some of the peoples there nephilim, but they are clearly only using the word in a propaganda sense in order to dissuade Israel from entering the land. One of the reasons for the flood was that Noah and his family were apparently not only the last to fear God but also the last (or among the last) to still be of pure human blood (Noah is called "perfect in his generations" for a reason). Had God not acted when He did, the human race would have been effectively extinguished in that no pure human beings would have been left, and then the Messiah could not have been born (since Jesus had to be of pure human seed: cf. Gen.3:15: "her Seed").

Perhaps...if we are going to use "old religion" as evidence...bigfoot and dogman could be better explained by reading the pages of the Hindu epic the Ramayana. The Ramayans is the epic tale of Rama, the 7th avatar of the supreme god Vishnu. Rama lived during the Treta Yuga. It was an age where the world was filled with giants. Around the same time as Rama’s birth, the supreme god Vishnu, knowing what was in store for him requested that all of the gods descend to the earth and mate with the apes and the bears. This request was made in order to, when the time was right, to provide Rama with an army he could use to help him conquer Ravana the giant demon king of Lanka.

The offspring of these unions obtained an array of impressive skills from their divine parents. The mighty Sugríva was the ruler of the vanara, (the ape-men). His father was Surya, their chief solar deity. The demi-god Hanúmán was the son of the wind god and is described as being able to travel very fast, while Nala was the son of the god of building and construction and is the vanara that helps Rama to build a bridge from mainland India to Lanka.

Food for thought...if your thoughts take you down these ancient tracks.

Me? I think yowies are more likely flesh and blood animals.

Muser wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:54 am First post!

This is all a bit interesting, isn't it? Bigfoot, yowies, mothman and dogman etc...all trace back to the Nephilim.

I do have some questions...if we're using the bible to gather evidence.

My musings are as follows...

How did the Nephilim, or any of their offspring survive Noah's flood? Anything of animal life to survive the flood had to have been in the ark. All these creatures "came to Noah" (Gen.7:15), so that the selection of individuals and of species was entirely God-made. Therefore the chance of any taint of this angelic seed still existing on earth is impossible - that was the whole reason for the universal flood, i.e., not only to irreversibly and entirely eradicate this monstrous group, but also to make clear to posterity that they had been dramatically and unquestionably destroyed by God Himself.

If we are to believe the bible...that all perished in the great flood. Then you would also have to believe that any giants around after the flood were not anything to do with the Nephilim. Goliath and his ilk were abnormal in size but that is all(i.e., they were 100% human). Other Canaanite peoples are recorded as being likewise far above average in their physical size, but they too are only abnormal humans with no exceptional powers. Just like the giants that live amongst us today.

The spies who entered Canaan and brought back the bad report to the children of Israel do call some of the peoples there nephilim, but they are clearly only using the word in a propaganda sense in order to dissuade Israel from entering the land. One of the reasons for the flood was that Noah and his family were apparently not only the last to fear God but also the last (or among the last) to still be of pure human blood (Noah is called "perfect in his generations" for a reason). Had God not acted when He did, the human race would have been effectively extinguished in that no pure human beings would have been left, and then the Messiah could not have been born (since Jesus had to be of pure human seed: cf. Gen.3:15: "her Seed").

Perhaps...if we are going to use "old religion" as evidence...bigfoot and dogman could be better explained by reading the pages of the Hindu epic the Ramayana. The Ramayans is the epic tale of Rama, the 7th avatar of the supreme god Vishnu. Rama lived during the Treta Yuga. It was an age where the world was filled with giants. Around the same time as Rama’s birth, the supreme god Vishnu, knowing what was in store for him requested that all of the gods descend to the earth and mate with the apes and the bears. This request was made in order to, when the time was right, to provide Rama with an army he could use to help him conquer Ravana the giant demon king of Lanka.

The offspring of these unions obtained an array of impressive skills from their divine parents. The mighty Sugríva was the ruler of the vanara, (the ape-men). His father was Surya, their chief solar deity. The demi-god Hanúmán was the son of the wind god and is described as being able to travel very fast, while Nala was the son of the god of building and construction and is the vanara that helps Rama to build a bridge from mainland India to Lanka.

Food for thought...if your thoughts take you down these ancient tracks.

Me? I think yowies are more likely flesh and blood animals.

Tuckeroo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:15 pm Hi Muser, welcome to AYR. Some interesting ideas in your post.
Prepare yourself for some criticism in this section of the forums.

T.

Tuckeroo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:15 pm Hi Muser, welcome to AYR. Some interesting ideas in your post.
Prepare yourself for some criticism in this section of the forums.

T.

Muser wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:42 pm

Tuckeroo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:15 pm Hi Muser, welcome to AYR. Some interesting ideas in your post.
Prepare yourself for some criticism in this section of the forums.

T.

Thanks for the welcome Tuckeroo and Sensesonfire! I'm not very religious, so I think I'll be right. I just like to try and get to the facts where possible. At the end of the day...if ALL evidence has been presented and still no general consensus has been reached...I'm happy to say "Stuffed if I know" and drop the subject.

sensesonfire wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:04 pm

themanfromglad wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:19 pm

sensesonfire wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:36 am I've resurrected this video of Brenton Sawin's who has sadly passed on it's from the US, not Australia. The video was taken by a man wandering through his favourite part of a forest in Washington state. When he came home and ran the video he was amazed to discover images he did not notice during his walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbM-3bEx8

At 3:28 you will see a Dogman (circled) standing erect almost looking like a tree. These creatures are masters of camouflage and I do not believe this to be pareidolia. But even more, telling standing to the right of the circled figure I can see an enormous Dogman that appears to be leaning against a tree. I am surprised that this was not noted in the video.

The supposed overhead view of a pair of dogmen thick brush, is simply a missidentification of two stumps with flowers and vines growing out of them. The Gable film was admitted to be a hoax by the instigators.

Pareidolia is a curse of the cryptid hunter but considering the other unexplained materializations on his video such as seeing what he described as fairies sitting on a tree branch Bigfoot and other Dogman watching them as they moved through their ''enchanted forest,'' I believe there could be more to it than seeing things that aren't there. Watch from 26:35 and at 28:15 that shows a stone monolithic structure standing with what appears to be hieroglyphic messages adorning it.

As for the Gable film, there are suggestions that it was a forced admission come on themanfromglad you should know by now to what extent government agencies, the military, etc will go to close down investigations.

There were skeptics claiming this video was a fake but after examing the movements of the creature they came to an agreement that the actions were impossible to duplicate by humans. I'm not convinced this was a Dogman possibly a very large wolf because I have seen videos of wolves to suggest this may be the case.

Thommo wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:46 am Not sure what this was , happened around 1993, traveling from Ballarat to Macedon through Bacchus Marsh, around 2am, drizzling night, my car had some pretty serious light power for the time, as we were climbing the long climb out of Bacchus Marsh approx 15kms out from town, we were driving along with the lights showing the red reflectors for around a km or so, something caught my eye in the distance, it seemed to be a post with a reflector knocked down, for some reason I watched it all the way till we got almost level with it, then this thing sprang in one bound the 2m verge on the side of the road, my lights having good spread lit it up clearly, it’s red eyes gleaming but we also noticed it’s nose/ snout was very long and thin similar to a collie dog, buts it’s teeth were abnormally white and very long easily 3inches , it’s matted hair was a grey /brown color and approx 4” long. Instinctively I stopped the car and asked my wife what she saw. She said excactly what I did.. still unsure..

WHITEFRANK wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:02 pm https://www.bigfoot411.com/bigfoot-types.html

I found this website to be useful in classification of types of humanoid. The suggestion they make about dogman sightings being of something with more of a baboon or mandrill type face makes sense to me. Fits with the savagery and the bipedal / quadrupedal variation too and the "big arms small legs" in some reports.