A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
The I.R got in the way this time, I think a straight camera shot under spotlight would have given a color variation making it easier to pick out. If you look closely the the creatures body blocks out the vegetation behind it. In the full video you can hear trees cracking as (I assume) it moves around.
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Hey Paul
Don't take this the wrong way but see it as positive feedback,
I see what you are trying to portray, however looking from a external perspective and my own personal view, all I see is something which seems to blink only from one eye the other eye could have been obscured, cant really tell, it could also be something entirely different to what you think it is, shining bug for example? I know you said you heard trees cracking which is fine I'll take your word for it, but in all honesty your video makes it hard to decipherer,
In future..... again this is just some positive feedback, could you please give us the whole footage leading up to seeing and or hearing something and also after the event, not just a back and forth 2 second frame by frame of what you see as an eye blink. As that just doesn't give the viewer an indication of the moments unfolding, it makes it a lot easier for us to be in the moment and digest the information if its not cut and pasted.
The old Homestead area though looks super impressive though and well done.
Don't take this the wrong way but see it as positive feedback,
I see what you are trying to portray, however looking from a external perspective and my own personal view, all I see is something which seems to blink only from one eye the other eye could have been obscured, cant really tell, it could also be something entirely different to what you think it is, shining bug for example? I know you said you heard trees cracking which is fine I'll take your word for it, but in all honesty your video makes it hard to decipherer,
In future..... again this is just some positive feedback, could you please give us the whole footage leading up to seeing and or hearing something and also after the event, not just a back and forth 2 second frame by frame of what you see as an eye blink. As that just doesn't give the viewer an indication of the moments unfolding, it makes it a lot easier for us to be in the moment and digest the information if its not cut and pasted.
The old Homestead area though looks super impressive though and well done.
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No worries Dion I understand the points you raise.
Here is the original night footage in which I am clearly skeptical of it being a Yowie. This has the original movement sounds and un enhanced footage.
https://youtu.be/2hDblfR8HeQ
Here is the original night footage in which I am clearly skeptical of it being a Yowie. This has the original movement sounds and un enhanced footage.
https://youtu.be/2hDblfR8HeQ
Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
With the new and quite awesome board system allowing direct video play, Id like to repost the night footage of Chuwar in SE Queensland in which I filmed some great eye shine and possibly ambush hides along a track and animal trail. What do you make of it all?
https://youtu.be/_UJJBUS0_dY
https://youtu.be/_UJJBUS0_dY
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And here is the follow up of the Bundamba Yowie sighting.
https://youtu.be/3bbiV-1QS3M
https://youtu.be/3bbiV-1QS3M
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And here is an examination of the Churwar eye shine
https://youtu.be/X8ssS-ZRzlk
https://youtu.be/X8ssS-ZRzlk
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I think you posted that already.paulmcleod67 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:49 am And here is the follow up of the Bundamba Yowie sighting.

Interesting video, The eye shine could it be lights in the distance? The light anomaly where something flyby's your head is good, thats the sort of stuff that gets my attention for the simple fact that its different.
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Hi mate. I just got back from Chuwar having filmed a daylight segment of the eye shine area, which I will post here when the processing is done. The area in question drops into a gully giving it almost no chance of being refracted light and with no houses or lights in the area it makes for an interesting piece of possible evidence. And that over head light?? No idea what that was but it seemed very fast. Willow the wisp?
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Here is a quick screen grab whilst the video processes.
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So here is the video of my return to Chuwar for a daylight comparison for height of the I.R eyeshine I filmed a while back.
https://youtu.be/GHts1RvL4p0
https://youtu.be/GHts1RvL4p0
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Return to Pine mountain part one a daytime investigation. To be followed (once I process the video) by part two a night investigation.
The night investigation goes a bit blair witch...got lost....batteries run out....
https://youtu.be/LLhxeor4eUA
The night investigation goes a bit blair witch...got lost....batteries run out....
https://youtu.be/LLhxeor4eUA
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Here is a really interesting "Stump" paradolia that actually startled me when I walked by it at Churwar.
Also in the same area an interesting "tree structure" if such it be.
Also in the same area an interesting "tree structure" if such it be.
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At midnight on Tuesday 30th of January 2018, whilst filming a night investigation in deep scrub near Pine Mountain , South Eastern Queensland a simple error of judgement caused me to become lost. As a result of the extended time in the bush, my camera and light batteries run flat, leaving me in a dark, spider infested forest and having to find my way back to the car using only natural light. Here is the entire footage from that night unabridged and as it happened.
https://youtu.be/OeLi1c3k4Sk
https://youtu.be/OeLi1c3k4Sk
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Good for you Paul , going back to film the same area is extremely important in my opinion , not only for you but for the rest of us as well . Although it doesn't always pay off it adds crediblity to what your doing . Credibility is everything .paulmcleod67 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:58 pm I just got back from Chuwar having filmed a daylight segment of the eye shine area
Every time I do it I try to do it as an investigation , trying to find size comparisons and hair samples , there can be fascinating little pieces of information you can find by doing this and again it adds weight to any previous evidence from the same area .
Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Where ancient mound builders at Pine Mountain in S.E Queensland in the past?
A few months ago I filmed a massive set of glowing eyes that walked past me at night.
I went back today to the site I've named "The Mounds", an anomalous set of rampart like artificial looking piles of dirt that seem to have significant age to them. What are these features? The mounds( both of them) have a compass bearing that is orientated to true north.
https://youtu.be/_MSruwAyOH4
Now check out this article pointed out to me by Brucetheviking tonight.
http://ancientnews.net/2018/02/11/ancie ... australia/
Ancient Mound Builder Culture Revealed in Northern Australia
BY BRUCE R. FENTON ON 11TH FEBRUARY 2018 ARCHAEOLOGY
Archaeologists working on a project in western Cape York at the northern tip of Queensland have announced the confirmation of an extensive mound building culture in the region, responsible for hundreds of ceremonial burial mounds. The structures had been known about, indeed some were even built on, but were previously assumed to be natural features of the landscape.
The mounds are so numerous that they stretch across at least 60 kilometres of the Mapoon coast, a remote, mostly indigenous, community in Cape York. Local indigenous families have expressed fears they are surrounded by ghosts, with some mounds being in the gardens of local homeowners.
So far only eleven of the mounds have been carefully studied. The barrow structure range in size but are up to 4 metres high and many do contain human interments. Archaeologists used ground penetrating radar and magnetometer technology to peer beneath the surface and get a glimpse of the internal areas helping them to better understand Aboriginal burial practices, possibly stretching back over many millennia.
The idea to use ground penetrating radar had originated with the local indigenous people, some of whom had watched the technology employed on the popular British television show Time Team.
Many of the mounds were built over noticeably burnt surfaces where ceremonial fires had burned intensely over time. Stones, coral, spears and other objects have already been detected within some of the mounds. The discoveries could change the way we understand Aboriginal burial rites, offering incredible overlap with the Neolithic Europeans who often buried important members of their tribes in similar tumulus.
“We don’t know how old they are. They could be 6,000 years old. They could be tens of thousands of years old. We believe potentially 5,000 to 6,000 years old, but they could be much, much older and potentially also younger, and we need to carry out more research to date them”, offered Archaeologist Dr Mary-Jean Sutton.
A mission was established at Mapoon in 1891 following frontier violence, with catastrophic impact on local indigenous communities. In the 1960s the population was forcibly removed and most of the buildings burned down. This dark history explains why some indigenous families ended up living so close to the burial sites, having lost the aural story explaining what the mounds really were.
“A lot of these people were saying they were being haunted”, Dr Sutton noted.
Local Tjungundji elder Aunty Diane Nicholls said many people in the area had come to assume the mounds were part of the natural landscape, perhaps abandoned turkey nests. The Australian brush-turkey – also known as the scrub or bush turkey – builds nesting mounds out of plant litter and soil which are usually 2 to 4 metres across and 1 metre high.
Professor Lawrence Conyers of the University of Denver has suggested important people were buried in these monuments, showing the creation of an elite group in an otherwise egalitarian society.
Dr Sutton, of archaeological consultants Virtus Heritage, said the research had been conducted in partnership with Western Cape Communities Trust and Mapoon families.
Sources
Discovery of ancient Aboriginal remains confirms burial grounds on western Cape York – ABC News
A few months ago I filmed a massive set of glowing eyes that walked past me at night.
I went back today to the site I've named "The Mounds", an anomalous set of rampart like artificial looking piles of dirt that seem to have significant age to them. What are these features? The mounds( both of them) have a compass bearing that is orientated to true north.
https://youtu.be/_MSruwAyOH4
Now check out this article pointed out to me by Brucetheviking tonight.
http://ancientnews.net/2018/02/11/ancie ... australia/
Ancient Mound Builder Culture Revealed in Northern Australia
BY BRUCE R. FENTON ON 11TH FEBRUARY 2018 ARCHAEOLOGY
Archaeologists working on a project in western Cape York at the northern tip of Queensland have announced the confirmation of an extensive mound building culture in the region, responsible for hundreds of ceremonial burial mounds. The structures had been known about, indeed some were even built on, but were previously assumed to be natural features of the landscape.
The mounds are so numerous that they stretch across at least 60 kilometres of the Mapoon coast, a remote, mostly indigenous, community in Cape York. Local indigenous families have expressed fears they are surrounded by ghosts, with some mounds being in the gardens of local homeowners.
So far only eleven of the mounds have been carefully studied. The barrow structure range in size but are up to 4 metres high and many do contain human interments. Archaeologists used ground penetrating radar and magnetometer technology to peer beneath the surface and get a glimpse of the internal areas helping them to better understand Aboriginal burial practices, possibly stretching back over many millennia.
The idea to use ground penetrating radar had originated with the local indigenous people, some of whom had watched the technology employed on the popular British television show Time Team.
Many of the mounds were built over noticeably burnt surfaces where ceremonial fires had burned intensely over time. Stones, coral, spears and other objects have already been detected within some of the mounds. The discoveries could change the way we understand Aboriginal burial rites, offering incredible overlap with the Neolithic Europeans who often buried important members of their tribes in similar tumulus.
“We don’t know how old they are. They could be 6,000 years old. They could be tens of thousands of years old. We believe potentially 5,000 to 6,000 years old, but they could be much, much older and potentially also younger, and we need to carry out more research to date them”, offered Archaeologist Dr Mary-Jean Sutton.
A mission was established at Mapoon in 1891 following frontier violence, with catastrophic impact on local indigenous communities. In the 1960s the population was forcibly removed and most of the buildings burned down. This dark history explains why some indigenous families ended up living so close to the burial sites, having lost the aural story explaining what the mounds really were.
“A lot of these people were saying they were being haunted”, Dr Sutton noted.
Local Tjungundji elder Aunty Diane Nicholls said many people in the area had come to assume the mounds were part of the natural landscape, perhaps abandoned turkey nests. The Australian brush-turkey – also known as the scrub or bush turkey – builds nesting mounds out of plant litter and soil which are usually 2 to 4 metres across and 1 metre high.
Professor Lawrence Conyers of the University of Denver has suggested important people were buried in these monuments, showing the creation of an elite group in an otherwise egalitarian society.
Dr Sutton, of archaeological consultants Virtus Heritage, said the research had been conducted in partnership with Western Cape Communities Trust and Mapoon families.
Sources
Discovery of ancient Aboriginal remains confirms burial grounds on western Cape York – ABC News
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Loud roar and branch snap filmed today at the Chuwar site...Scared the c**p out of me.
From the exact place that I filmed clear evidence of night time eye shine on I.R a few weeks ago,
in a cool secluded hollow at Chuwar in S.E Queensland. A huge tree snap followed by a sound that
scared the bejeezus out of me. Is this a Yowie roar?
Today's temp whilst filming at midday here was 36 deg c, and the thicket was significantly cooler.
Did I happen to catch a yowie snoozing in a dark thicket out of the sun?
Looks like I need to acquire a good trail cam and sneak it into the site?
https://youtu.be/_-AhFxyD0Ws
From the exact place that I filmed clear evidence of night time eye shine on I.R a few weeks ago,
in a cool secluded hollow at Chuwar in S.E Queensland. A huge tree snap followed by a sound that
scared the bejeezus out of me. Is this a Yowie roar?
Today's temp whilst filming at midday here was 36 deg c, and the thicket was significantly cooler.
Did I happen to catch a yowie snoozing in a dark thicket out of the sun?
Looks like I need to acquire a good trail cam and sneak it into the site?
https://youtu.be/_-AhFxyD0Ws
Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Ppologize for being repetitive as this has it's own thread but I just wanted to archive it with the rest of my articles mainly because the crustal displacement articles are here on the first few pages.
THE MARSUPIAL CONNECTION WITH SOUTH AMERICA AND IMPACT INDUCED CRUSTAL DISPLACEMENT: A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND TO THE WALLACE LINE YOWIE CONUNDRUM.
The Fugian people of Brazil’s Amazonia region, carry distinctive DNA sequences that identify them as the descendants of an earlier wave of colonists known as the Australoids. This Genetic link to the Austaloids is also common in Australian Aboriginals.
One of the most promising places to look for more definitive evidence linking an ancient Australoids population in the Americas with modern Australoid populations in south-east Asia and AustralIa is southernmost South America and the near-extinct indigenous peoples of Tierra del Fuego known as the Fuegians
One of the most distinctive ancient skulls from the Americas was discovered by a French-Brazilian archaeological team in Vermelho Cave, near Belo Horizonte in south-eastern Brazil in 1973.The skull, that of a young woman dubbed “Luzia”, yielded a radiocarbon age of 10,030 years. Its narrow, oval cranium with a projecting face and lower chin, resembled the skulls of modern Australoid peoples like Australia’s Aborigines, Melanesians, and the various South-east Asian peoples.
There is a bigger mystery involving the comonality of marsupials from Australia and South America. In fact Australian systematic zoology teems with forms exhibiting South American affinities. Curiously enough, many of these forms find their nearest relatives in Chili [Chile].
South America has a host of marsupial species, from the dwarf fat-tailed mouse opposum to the yapok, an aquatic marsupial. Paleontologists have long wondered, When did the marsupials cross between Australia and the Americas?
Recent studies suggest that all or most of Australia's marsupials derive from an order of early North American marsupials of which today just a single representative exists, a sprightly, mouse-sized critter native to southern Chile known as the monito del monte, or "small monkey of the mountains. Both continents had catlike marsupial predators with interesting dentition. The Thylacoleonids which were Australian and had large pronounced incisors which are believed to have replaced the canines that a placental carnivore would have. The Thylacosmilids which had large saber like teeth which differed from the sabre-toothed cats elsewhere in the world due to sheaths that the Thylacosmilds had on their lower jaw.
The most notable similarity throughout these two continents in the Cenozoic was the Fauna. The Fauna and food chains of both of these continents were extremely similar down to a very fine point. At the top of the food chain both countries had large flightless birds.
Until sometime in the Cretaceous Period (146 to 65 million years ago), Australia, Antarctica, and South America all abutted one another in the southern supercontinent Gondwana. While they were attached, experts believe a single belt of forest likely stretched from southeastern Australia, through Antarctica.
The animal kingdom as developed in Australia presents us with anomalies and peculiarities perhaps even more remarkable than are exhibited by the plants.
Today no monotremes exist outside of Australia (and New Guinea), and no placental mammals that didn't fly or swim there—for example, bats or dugongs—existed in Australia. Why didn't monotremes use the connection to leave Australia? And why didn't placentals use it to enter Australia?
Paleontologists believe that the common ancestor that gave rise to the monito del monte, and the kangaroo and most or all other Australian marsupials, scurried from South America to Australia (through the intervening Antarctica) sometime before about 60 million years ago.
Australia, the smallest of the seven continents, is the world capital of two of the three types of mammal on Earth: the marsupials, like the kangaroo and koala, which nourish their young in pouches, and the monotremes, featuring the platypus and the echidnas, which nourish their young in eggs.
We have evidence that Antarctica possessed a mild climate and a rain forest flora throughout the Mesozoic and into the Tertiary as far, perhaps, as Lower Miocene. Secondly, there is demonstrated the existence of at least two distinct florae, a Mesozoic Gondwana flora, and a Tertiary flora with South American affinities.Flora that also occurs in both New Zealand and Australia.
If Antarctica possessed a rain forest flora through the length of time indicated, from the Jurassic into the Tertiary, it seems equally certain that it must have possessed a fauna. Some happy chance may in the future throw some palaeontological light upon the nature of this fauna, but it seems most likely that the mantle of ice and snow which covers the continent will keep the matter a mystery for us.
" We find that the Boopidae, Gyropidae, and Trimenoponidae occur upon marsupials, and upon South American Hystricomorph rodents, a group of which Matthew writes "No hypothesis satisfactorily explains the accepted relationship and distribution." There is no evidence that these parasites have ever existed on other mammals in more northerly lands, and it seems most probable that they would have left residuals here and there if such had been the case. So here again the greater probability lies with Antarctic connection between South America and Australia. It may be that at a later stage Australia was cut off from Antarctica and Africa joined, allowing of a migration of Hystricomorphs, but this raises a very complex question, bristling with difficulties, with which we are not here concerned".
"These facts, taken in conjunction with geological evidence, have led many naturalists to assume a much greater extension of the Antarctic Continent in past times which is supposed to have been connected with South America, Australia, and New Zealand, and possibly, at a very remote period with Madagascar, thus permitting the migration of land and freshwater animals to and from those countrie"s.
The existence of a coast-line connecting the various isolated parts of the southern hemisphere would, of course, also account for the community which exists between their littoral marine fauna.
It is impossible to enter here into the nature of this land-connexion which is becoming more and more a necessary hypothesis for the student of geographical distribution, whatever group of animals he may choose, but it may be remarked that the connexion was probably by means of rays of land passing up from an Antarctic continent to join the southernmost projections of Tierra del Fuego, Tasmania, and New Zealand."
Australia has been isolated from the northern land masses since the late Mesozoic, and that those portions of its fauna which had to depend upon land migration have come in from the south.
That the Antarctic continent had, during the greater part of the Mesozoic and the early Tertiary a temperate climate, and a rain-forest flora, and was therefore habitable by animals.
That there are geographical indications of former connections between this continent and South America, New Zealand, Australia, and Africa, which, taken in conjunction with the evidence from faunal distribution, render it probable that land migration has from time to time been possible along such connections. No other hypothesis is adequate to explain some cases of distribution.
That the Australian marsupials, together with the Parastacid crayfishes, the Leptodactylid and Hylid frogs, and a host of other forms, vertebrate and invertebrate, have reached Australia from South America by way of Antarctica.
All of the above gives a good solid base with which to allow us to theorize that the Australian Yowie as an upright marsupial, may have migrated from South America or an ice fee and tropical antartica at some distant point in the past.
So is there any evidence for a similar upright marsupial living in south America at any point?
Indeed there is : The traditionaLy interpreted Mapinguari creature of the Amazon basin ,complete with a reported "mouth" in its stomache, (which I will imediatly suggest is in fact a marsupial pouch rather than a mouth). Alternative suggestions of the creature being a giant sloth, in reality have no basis in fact and indeed are not even supported by eyewitness account of the creature even remotly resembling a giant sloth.
Modern interpretation of oral traditions, along with virtualy dismissing the accounts of native people having physical encounters with an upright bipedal creature, featuring a pouch on its frontal torso, have been dismissed by science as mis-identification by the traditional people of the area. This is just the same sort of intellectual arrogance that has dismissed thousands of reports over hundreds of years deatailing what we now call the yowie.
From this point I will make direct comparisons between the earliest accounts describing these two creatures as the eyewitnesses themselves have described them. Firstly one must suspend the inclination to imagine either the yowie or the Mapinguari as Sasquatch subspecies, simply because Sasquatch are not marsupials and could not have evovled and migrated from south America to Australia as described in detail above.
The name Mapinguari translates as “roaring animal” or “fetid beast”.
THE MOUTH ON THE CREATURES TORSO AREA:
The only possibility which would explain this characteristic as one which might occur in the natural world, would be if the creature has a pouch for carrying its young. This evolutionary adaptation is only seen in marsupials such as kangaroos, and koala's. Pouches are different amongst different marsupials, two kinds distinguishable (on the front or belly): opening towards the head and extending the cavity under the skin towards the tail (forward, or up) or opening towards the tail and extending towards the front legs (to the rear, backward or down).
THE YOWIE
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang abaggy appeudage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the crearture as...
"...neIther ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasin reality the pouch inwhich it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokeshead out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child andmuch more human than its grown parent".
FACT: Some marsupials lack the true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguari is said to have backwards feet.
THE YOWIE
Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal - 1902 reports
“The "Yahoo," (as we all know) is an animal said to resemble a man only that his body is covered with long hair, and his feet are turned backwards, there being where the heel should be."
THE MAPINGUARI
One of the most reliable early sightings was made by Ramón Lista in the late 19th century. While riding in Santa Cruz, he saw a shaggy red-haired creature run across the road ahead of him.He shot at the animal and was amazed that the bullets bounced off its skin.
THE YOWIE
The Richmond River Herald and Northern Districts Advertiser (NSW ) Fri 22 Jun 1906
"...Clifford, who had a 32 Winchester, had his arms at the moment busy working through the bush. As speedily as possible he fired. The animal which, he says, appeared to be 8ft high and 3ft broad, black in color, and covered with hair of great length, gave several un-earthly yells, something like a native bear, and made off. Clifford fired two more shots at it as it fled over a flat".
THE MAPINGUARI
Local people describe the beast as being ferocious, and able to move through the vegetation without making a sound.Other descriptors include long, powerful arms that could tear down a palm tree, and thick, matted fur. The creature is also said to emit a terrifying shriek.
THE YOWIE
Dungog Chronicle : Durham and Gloucester Advertiser Fri 17 Jul 1896
A resident of Tenterfield has reported that he was attacked by a large hairy animal like a gorilla. An armed party have gone out in' pursuit of the creature.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW ) Sat 28 Aug 1886
"Whilst a young man named Flyn was ooking after stock at the back of the Bredbo station one afternoon last week, he was sur- prised to observe a hairy human form, about seven feet in height, walking in the bush.
The wild man walked with an unsteady, swinging, and fast step, his arms being bent forward and nearly reaching the ground,whilst the colour was described as " bay," be-tween a red and chestnut.
Flynn did not take a second look at the uncanny creature.but rode as fast as he could to the homestead of Mr. Crimmings, nearly two miles away, to whom he reported the strange, mysterious affair.
Since then, Mr. Crimmings himself has interviewed the monster, and his account tallies exactly with that given by Mr. Flynn. But Mr. Crimmings heard the animal make a cry that sounded very like " Yahoo."
We hear that Mr. Joseph Hart, of Jingera, also saw the "Yahoo" as he was returning home one afternoon. The strange being is, no doubt, the "wild man" that has been so often talked of about Jingera for so many years past."
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguaris of local folklore have some disturbing characteristics (possibly exaggerated over the years as the legend grew), including having only one eye.
Its smell is putrid and its skin is seemingly impervious to arrows and bullets.
Another feature of the Mapinguari is that it is believed to be carnivorous, although there are no accounts of it ever eating humans.
They tend to attack cattle, killing them and ripping out their tongues with their sharp claws.
The Mapinguari seems to look like Bigfoot but retains certain sloth-like features.
THE YOWIE
The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
As near as I can describe it,the creature appeared to be fully nine
feet in height; heal large, and resembling that of a baboon, but with a face
more human-like; arms long, black,muscular, and devoid of hair; body
large and round, almost balloon-shaped,legs otextraordinary length,Before disappearing over the summit of the hill, it turned around
and made several hideous grimmaces at us, displaying a double tier of long yel
low teeth".
THE MAPINGUARI
In 1975, a miner named Mário Pereira de Souza claimed he saw a Mapinguari at a mining camp along the Rio Jamauchím south of Itaituba, Pará State, Brazil.
He says he heard a scream and turned to see a huge creature advancing towards him on its hind legs. He remembers the creature’s awful stench.
A group of Kanamarí Indians in the Rio Juruá Valley state that they raised two Mapinguaris on bananas and milk. They say they released the creatures after about two years because their stench had become too much to bear. No one seems to know what happened to these Mapinguaris.
In 1994, biologist David Oren spoke to The New York Times about the fact that Amazonians were reporting sightings of Mapinguaris. He organized a trip to the Amazon, however this expedition failed to uncover any evidence.
Discover Magazine ran a story about a Brazilian man who had supposedly encountered a Mapinguari. Manuel Vitorino Pinheiro dos Santos, an experienced hunter, heard a blood-curdling scream while moving through the Amazon. Hiding in a river, Manuel heard the scream a further four times as the creature slowly moved away.
THE YOWIE
The Grenfell Record and Lachlan District Advertiser 1876:
“Leaving one of their young friends to boil the billy and prepare supper. While, so engagedthe young women was suddenly startled by observing a man, as she naturally imagined, at first sight, was one of their own party, coming towards the fire, on walking closer, discovered the appearance to be unsightly an inhuman, bearing in every way the shape of a man with a big red face, hands and legs covered all over with long, shaggy hair, from fright she became almost spell-bound, screamed and screeched but unable to run. The men, on hearing such unearthly cries, left their fishing lines and ran with all speed towards their comrade;
She describes the creature:
"The head was covered with dark grisly hair, the face with shaggy darkish hair, the; back and belly and down the legs covered with hair of a lighter colour. This devil-devil or -whatever it may be called doubled round and hurriedly made back towards the fire and woman again.”
THE MARSUPIAL CONNECTION WITH SOUTH AMERICA AND IMPACT INDUCED CRUSTAL DISPLACEMENT: A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND TO THE WALLACE LINE YOWIE CONUNDRUM.
The Fugian people of Brazil’s Amazonia region, carry distinctive DNA sequences that identify them as the descendants of an earlier wave of colonists known as the Australoids. This Genetic link to the Austaloids is also common in Australian Aboriginals.
One of the most promising places to look for more definitive evidence linking an ancient Australoids population in the Americas with modern Australoid populations in south-east Asia and AustralIa is southernmost South America and the near-extinct indigenous peoples of Tierra del Fuego known as the Fuegians
One of the most distinctive ancient skulls from the Americas was discovered by a French-Brazilian archaeological team in Vermelho Cave, near Belo Horizonte in south-eastern Brazil in 1973.The skull, that of a young woman dubbed “Luzia”, yielded a radiocarbon age of 10,030 years. Its narrow, oval cranium with a projecting face and lower chin, resembled the skulls of modern Australoid peoples like Australia’s Aborigines, Melanesians, and the various South-east Asian peoples.
There is a bigger mystery involving the comonality of marsupials from Australia and South America. In fact Australian systematic zoology teems with forms exhibiting South American affinities. Curiously enough, many of these forms find their nearest relatives in Chili [Chile].
South America has a host of marsupial species, from the dwarf fat-tailed mouse opposum to the yapok, an aquatic marsupial. Paleontologists have long wondered, When did the marsupials cross between Australia and the Americas?
Recent studies suggest that all or most of Australia's marsupials derive from an order of early North American marsupials of which today just a single representative exists, a sprightly, mouse-sized critter native to southern Chile known as the monito del monte, or "small monkey of the mountains. Both continents had catlike marsupial predators with interesting dentition. The Thylacoleonids which were Australian and had large pronounced incisors which are believed to have replaced the canines that a placental carnivore would have. The Thylacosmilids which had large saber like teeth which differed from the sabre-toothed cats elsewhere in the world due to sheaths that the Thylacosmilds had on their lower jaw.
The most notable similarity throughout these two continents in the Cenozoic was the Fauna. The Fauna and food chains of both of these continents were extremely similar down to a very fine point. At the top of the food chain both countries had large flightless birds.
Until sometime in the Cretaceous Period (146 to 65 million years ago), Australia, Antarctica, and South America all abutted one another in the southern supercontinent Gondwana. While they were attached, experts believe a single belt of forest likely stretched from southeastern Australia, through Antarctica.
The animal kingdom as developed in Australia presents us with anomalies and peculiarities perhaps even more remarkable than are exhibited by the plants.
Today no monotremes exist outside of Australia (and New Guinea), and no placental mammals that didn't fly or swim there—for example, bats or dugongs—existed in Australia. Why didn't monotremes use the connection to leave Australia? And why didn't placentals use it to enter Australia?
Paleontologists believe that the common ancestor that gave rise to the monito del monte, and the kangaroo and most or all other Australian marsupials, scurried from South America to Australia (through the intervening Antarctica) sometime before about 60 million years ago.
Australia, the smallest of the seven continents, is the world capital of two of the three types of mammal on Earth: the marsupials, like the kangaroo and koala, which nourish their young in pouches, and the monotremes, featuring the platypus and the echidnas, which nourish their young in eggs.
We have evidence that Antarctica possessed a mild climate and a rain forest flora throughout the Mesozoic and into the Tertiary as far, perhaps, as Lower Miocene. Secondly, there is demonstrated the existence of at least two distinct florae, a Mesozoic Gondwana flora, and a Tertiary flora with South American affinities.Flora that also occurs in both New Zealand and Australia.
If Antarctica possessed a rain forest flora through the length of time indicated, from the Jurassic into the Tertiary, it seems equally certain that it must have possessed a fauna. Some happy chance may in the future throw some palaeontological light upon the nature of this fauna, but it seems most likely that the mantle of ice and snow which covers the continent will keep the matter a mystery for us.
" We find that the Boopidae, Gyropidae, and Trimenoponidae occur upon marsupials, and upon South American Hystricomorph rodents, a group of which Matthew writes "No hypothesis satisfactorily explains the accepted relationship and distribution." There is no evidence that these parasites have ever existed on other mammals in more northerly lands, and it seems most probable that they would have left residuals here and there if such had been the case. So here again the greater probability lies with Antarctic connection between South America and Australia. It may be that at a later stage Australia was cut off from Antarctica and Africa joined, allowing of a migration of Hystricomorphs, but this raises a very complex question, bristling with difficulties, with which we are not here concerned".
"These facts, taken in conjunction with geological evidence, have led many naturalists to assume a much greater extension of the Antarctic Continent in past times which is supposed to have been connected with South America, Australia, and New Zealand, and possibly, at a very remote period with Madagascar, thus permitting the migration of land and freshwater animals to and from those countrie"s.
The existence of a coast-line connecting the various isolated parts of the southern hemisphere would, of course, also account for the community which exists between their littoral marine fauna.
It is impossible to enter here into the nature of this land-connexion which is becoming more and more a necessary hypothesis for the student of geographical distribution, whatever group of animals he may choose, but it may be remarked that the connexion was probably by means of rays of land passing up from an Antarctic continent to join the southernmost projections of Tierra del Fuego, Tasmania, and New Zealand."
Australia has been isolated from the northern land masses since the late Mesozoic, and that those portions of its fauna which had to depend upon land migration have come in from the south.
That the Antarctic continent had, during the greater part of the Mesozoic and the early Tertiary a temperate climate, and a rain-forest flora, and was therefore habitable by animals.
That there are geographical indications of former connections between this continent and South America, New Zealand, Australia, and Africa, which, taken in conjunction with the evidence from faunal distribution, render it probable that land migration has from time to time been possible along such connections. No other hypothesis is adequate to explain some cases of distribution.
That the Australian marsupials, together with the Parastacid crayfishes, the Leptodactylid and Hylid frogs, and a host of other forms, vertebrate and invertebrate, have reached Australia from South America by way of Antarctica.
All of the above gives a good solid base with which to allow us to theorize that the Australian Yowie as an upright marsupial, may have migrated from South America or an ice fee and tropical antartica at some distant point in the past.
So is there any evidence for a similar upright marsupial living in south America at any point?
Indeed there is : The traditionaLy interpreted Mapinguari creature of the Amazon basin ,complete with a reported "mouth" in its stomache, (which I will imediatly suggest is in fact a marsupial pouch rather than a mouth). Alternative suggestions of the creature being a giant sloth, in reality have no basis in fact and indeed are not even supported by eyewitness account of the creature even remotly resembling a giant sloth.
Modern interpretation of oral traditions, along with virtualy dismissing the accounts of native people having physical encounters with an upright bipedal creature, featuring a pouch on its frontal torso, have been dismissed by science as mis-identification by the traditional people of the area. This is just the same sort of intellectual arrogance that has dismissed thousands of reports over hundreds of years deatailing what we now call the yowie.
From this point I will make direct comparisons between the earliest accounts describing these two creatures as the eyewitnesses themselves have described them. Firstly one must suspend the inclination to imagine either the yowie or the Mapinguari as Sasquatch subspecies, simply because Sasquatch are not marsupials and could not have evovled and migrated from south America to Australia as described in detail above.
The name Mapinguari translates as “roaring animal” or “fetid beast”.
THE MOUTH ON THE CREATURES TORSO AREA:
The only possibility which would explain this characteristic as one which might occur in the natural world, would be if the creature has a pouch for carrying its young. This evolutionary adaptation is only seen in marsupials such as kangaroos, and koala's. Pouches are different amongst different marsupials, two kinds distinguishable (on the front or belly): opening towards the head and extending the cavity under the skin towards the tail (forward, or up) or opening towards the tail and extending towards the front legs (to the rear, backward or down).
THE YOWIE
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang abaggy appeudage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the crearture as...
"...neIther ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasin reality the pouch inwhich it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokeshead out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child andmuch more human than its grown parent".
FACT: Some marsupials lack the true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguari is said to have backwards feet.
THE YOWIE
Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal - 1902 reports
“The "Yahoo," (as we all know) is an animal said to resemble a man only that his body is covered with long hair, and his feet are turned backwards, there being where the heel should be."
THE MAPINGUARI
One of the most reliable early sightings was made by Ramón Lista in the late 19th century. While riding in Santa Cruz, he saw a shaggy red-haired creature run across the road ahead of him.He shot at the animal and was amazed that the bullets bounced off its skin.
THE YOWIE
The Richmond River Herald and Northern Districts Advertiser (NSW ) Fri 22 Jun 1906
"...Clifford, who had a 32 Winchester, had his arms at the moment busy working through the bush. As speedily as possible he fired. The animal which, he says, appeared to be 8ft high and 3ft broad, black in color, and covered with hair of great length, gave several un-earthly yells, something like a native bear, and made off. Clifford fired two more shots at it as it fled over a flat".
THE MAPINGUARI
Local people describe the beast as being ferocious, and able to move through the vegetation without making a sound.Other descriptors include long, powerful arms that could tear down a palm tree, and thick, matted fur. The creature is also said to emit a terrifying shriek.
THE YOWIE
Dungog Chronicle : Durham and Gloucester Advertiser Fri 17 Jul 1896
A resident of Tenterfield has reported that he was attacked by a large hairy animal like a gorilla. An armed party have gone out in' pursuit of the creature.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW ) Sat 28 Aug 1886
"Whilst a young man named Flyn was ooking after stock at the back of the Bredbo station one afternoon last week, he was sur- prised to observe a hairy human form, about seven feet in height, walking in the bush.
The wild man walked with an unsteady, swinging, and fast step, his arms being bent forward and nearly reaching the ground,whilst the colour was described as " bay," be-tween a red and chestnut.
Flynn did not take a second look at the uncanny creature.but rode as fast as he could to the homestead of Mr. Crimmings, nearly two miles away, to whom he reported the strange, mysterious affair.
Since then, Mr. Crimmings himself has interviewed the monster, and his account tallies exactly with that given by Mr. Flynn. But Mr. Crimmings heard the animal make a cry that sounded very like " Yahoo."
We hear that Mr. Joseph Hart, of Jingera, also saw the "Yahoo" as he was returning home one afternoon. The strange being is, no doubt, the "wild man" that has been so often talked of about Jingera for so many years past."
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguaris of local folklore have some disturbing characteristics (possibly exaggerated over the years as the legend grew), including having only one eye.
Its smell is putrid and its skin is seemingly impervious to arrows and bullets.
Another feature of the Mapinguari is that it is believed to be carnivorous, although there are no accounts of it ever eating humans.
They tend to attack cattle, killing them and ripping out their tongues with their sharp claws.
The Mapinguari seems to look like Bigfoot but retains certain sloth-like features.
THE YOWIE
The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
As near as I can describe it,the creature appeared to be fully nine
feet in height; heal large, and resembling that of a baboon, but with a face
more human-like; arms long, black,muscular, and devoid of hair; body
large and round, almost balloon-shaped,legs otextraordinary length,Before disappearing over the summit of the hill, it turned around
and made several hideous grimmaces at us, displaying a double tier of long yel
low teeth".
THE MAPINGUARI
In 1975, a miner named Mário Pereira de Souza claimed he saw a Mapinguari at a mining camp along the Rio Jamauchím south of Itaituba, Pará State, Brazil.
He says he heard a scream and turned to see a huge creature advancing towards him on its hind legs. He remembers the creature’s awful stench.
A group of Kanamarí Indians in the Rio Juruá Valley state that they raised two Mapinguaris on bananas and milk. They say they released the creatures after about two years because their stench had become too much to bear. No one seems to know what happened to these Mapinguaris.
In 1994, biologist David Oren spoke to The New York Times about the fact that Amazonians were reporting sightings of Mapinguaris. He organized a trip to the Amazon, however this expedition failed to uncover any evidence.
Discover Magazine ran a story about a Brazilian man who had supposedly encountered a Mapinguari. Manuel Vitorino Pinheiro dos Santos, an experienced hunter, heard a blood-curdling scream while moving through the Amazon. Hiding in a river, Manuel heard the scream a further four times as the creature slowly moved away.
THE YOWIE
The Grenfell Record and Lachlan District Advertiser 1876:
“Leaving one of their young friends to boil the billy and prepare supper. While, so engagedthe young women was suddenly startled by observing a man, as she naturally imagined, at first sight, was one of their own party, coming towards the fire, on walking closer, discovered the appearance to be unsightly an inhuman, bearing in every way the shape of a man with a big red face, hands and legs covered all over with long, shaggy hair, from fright she became almost spell-bound, screamed and screeched but unable to run. The men, on hearing such unearthly cries, left their fishing lines and ran with all speed towards their comrade;
She describes the creature:
"The head was covered with dark grisly hair, the face with shaggy darkish hair, the; back and belly and down the legs covered with hair of a lighter colour. This devil-devil or -whatever it may be called doubled round and hurriedly made back towards the fire and woman again.”
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Going through all the footage from multiple trips to the Chuwar site and I reckon I got the creature on a couple of frames from a zoom
and pan that I hadn't used. Now I'm prepared for the usual "paradolia matey" statements. All good but I really wouldnt have posted it if I though it was matrixing.
https://youtu.be/ykZG79YQ1Ck
and pan that I hadn't used. Now I'm prepared for the usual "paradolia matey" statements. All good but I really wouldnt have posted it if I though it was matrixing.
https://youtu.be/ykZG79YQ1Ck
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That looks like a very 'human' or bipedal figure, there is no doubt about what it looks like - a figure from mid-torso up. It really looks like a face too, and while I'm always going to be wary of saying that something 'is' definitely something, this looks amazingly like a figure. Yowie or otherwise.
Good work, Paul, but I reckon you'd be better off with a seriously bright led torch to shine in the face of anything that decides to have a go at you. Guns are just bad news in a place close to human habitation, sorry. If you fire off a round and hit a kid mucking around in the bush, or stumble across a dope grower... you might not get to see the outside world for some time. Just my opinion, though.
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Good work, Paul, but I reckon you'd be better off with a seriously bright led torch to shine in the face of anything that decides to have a go at you. Guns are just bad news in a place close to human habitation, sorry. If you fire off a round and hit a kid mucking around in the bush, or stumble across a dope grower... you might not get to see the outside world for some time. Just my opinion, though.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Cheers mate. If a kid is playing anywhere near this lot it wont be a gun he has to worry about.Shazzoir wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:30 pm That looks like a very 'human' or bipedal figure, there is no doubt about what it looks like - a figure from mid-torso up. It really looks like a face too, and while I'm always going to be wary of saying that something 'is' definitely something, this looks amazingly like a figure. Yowie or otherwise.
Good work, Paul, but I reckon you'd be better off with a seriously bright led torch to shine in the face of anything that decides to have a go at you. Guns are just bad news in a place close to human habitation, sorry. If you fire off a round and hit a kid mucking around in the bush, or stumble across a dope grower... you might not get to see the outside world for some time. Just my opinion, though.
Shazz
I'm ex military and safe with weapons. I am and have been using a high power lamp and so far it has been attracting them not repelling them. I also carry a bloody big hunting blade and was carrying a contact stun gun until I lost it in the bush one night.
Plenty of pig hunters packing out there and I've not heard of any gun related accidents.
I'm not a gun nut by any stretch but based on what I'm learning and experiencing here, it's only a matter of time before something is going to happen. They are making less and less effort to conceal themselves preferring to stand in place and leer or to follow, which is good because it means the one person alone at night method is working...until it works a bit too well that is.
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Cheers, Paul, all the best for future searches, things are getting interesting out there!
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A conversation with Dr Gary Opit
Hello Dr Opit
My name is Paul John McLeod
I am an ex military member, published author and now full time researcher of Australia's cryptic hominid.
I have followed your work for some years with great interest.
I am writing to your good self in order to share some interesting data that has come about as result of a three year (thus far) research project I have been compiling on the subject.
In an attempt to answer four very specific questions concerning the existence of the as yet unrecognized bipedal upright cryptid we call "yowie".
Given the vast array of eyewitness reports dating all the way back into prehistory, when one includes aboriginal oral traditions:
1) Why ( as at the current date) is there only volumes’ of anecdotal eyewitness accounts of such an upright bipedal mammal in Australia , yet precious little scientifically testable data to support its stated existence?
Alternately this same question can be rephrased as:
b) What factors have negated, restricted or otherwise encumbered discovery of such testable data? Indeed, could this data void be attributable to the use of incorrect research methodologies and assumptions?
2)Assuming the cryptid is an actual biological species , often described as a primate like creature, what was the creatures route and timeline of entry into Australia, given the well respected Wallace and Satual theories of biological barrier constrictions from Asia?
b) Was there at one time, an alternate means of entry onto the Australian continental landmass that would negate the Wallace and Satul null hypothesis?
If yes to sub question (b)
3) What evolutionary ancestry fits with the suggested upright, bipedal hominid like creatures description, given Australia’s known land based marsupial only, evolutionary history?
Wallace himself suggested the answer to the above question.
" Australian systematic zoology teems with forms exhibiting South American affinities. Curiously enough, many of these forms find their nearest relatives in Chili [Chile].
South America has a host of marsupial species, from the dwarf fat-tailed mouse opossum to the yapok, an aquatic marsupial. Palaeontologists have long wondered, When did the marsupials cross between Australia and the Americas?"
"Recent studies suggest that all or most of Australia's marsupials derive from an order of early North American marsupials of which today just a single representative exists, a sprightly, mouse-sized critter native to southern Chile known as the monito del monte, or "small monkey of the mountains. Both continents had catlike marsupial predators with interesting dentition. The Thylacoleonids which were Australian and had large pronounced incisors which are believed to have replaced the canines that a placental carnivore would have. The Thylacosmilids which had large saber like teeth which differed from the sabre-toothed cats elsewhere in the world due to sheaths that the Thylacosmilds had on their lower jaw."
"Today no monotremes exist outside of Australia (and New Guinea), and no placental mammals that didn't fly or swim there—for example, bats or dugongs—existed in Australia. Why didn't monotremes use the connection to leave Australia? And why didn't placentals use it to enter Australia?"
"Palaeontologists believe that the common ancestor that gave rise to the monito del monte, and the kangaroo and most or all other Australian marsupials, scurried from South America to Australia (through the intervening Antarctica) sometime before about 60 million years ago.
"These facts, taken in conjunction with geological evidence, have led many naturalists to assume a much greater extension of the Antarctic Continent in past times which is supposed to have been connected with South America, Australia, and New Zealand, and possibly, at a very remote period with Madagascar, thus permitting the migration of land and freshwater animals to and from those countries"
Which leaves the assumption that the yowie owes its evolutionary ancestry to primates, not as impossible but certainly as implausible based on the above.
There is a work around to this evolutionary travel conundrum.
4) Could the yowies physical attributes be an example of parallel evolutionary development
similar in form to an upright bipedal primate but is itself a marsupial ?
Some marsupials lack true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
There are several early "Australian Gorilla" witness reports that describe just such a skin flap on the creature at times .
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasnt reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokes head out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child andmuch more human than its grown parent".
So there is at least the suggested possibility of it having a biological connection to marsupials that entered Australia in the same way as every other marsupial, via a land bridge with an ice free and temperate in climate Antarctica, from South America.
This brings a theory I have developed into the present conversation, which provided me with the right platform to make some quite new and remarkable discoveries on the subject of the yowie. These I shall get to in due course.
The seeds of an unexpected and remarkable possibility germinated in my mind.
THE AUSTRLIAN MARSUPIAL CONNECTION WITH SOUTH AMERICA
A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND TO THE WALLACE LINE YOWIE CONUNDRUM.
INTRODUCTION
The Fugian people of Brazil’s Amazonia region, carry distinctive DNA sequences that identify them as the descendants of an earlier wave of colonists known as the Australoids. This Genetic link to the Austaloids is also common in Australian Aboriginals.
One of the most promising places to look for more definitive evidence linking an ancient Australoids population in the Americas with modern Australoid populations in south-east Asia and AustralIa is southernmost South America and the near-extinct indigenous peoples of Tierra del Fuego known as the Fuegians
One of the most distinctive ancient skulls from the Americas was discovered by a French-Brazilian archaeological team in Vermelho Cave, near Belo Horizonte in south-eastern Brazil in 1973.The skull, that of a young woman dubbed “Luzia”, yielded a radiocarbon age of 10,030 years. Its narrow, oval cranium with a projecting face and lower chin, resembled the skulls of modern Australoid peoples like Australia’s Aborigines, Melanesians, and the various South-east Asian peoples.
All of the above gives a good solid base with which to allow us to theorize that the Australian Yowie as an upright marsupial, may have migrated from South America or an ice fee and tropical Antarctica at some distant point in the past.
So is there any evidence for a similar upright marsupial living in South America at any point?
Indeed there is : The traditionally interpreted Mapinguari creature of the Amazon basin ,complete with a reported "mouth" in its stomach, (which I will immediately suggest is in fact a marsupial pouch rather than a mouth). Alternative suggestions of the creature being a giant sloth, in reality have no basis in fact and indeed are not even supported by eyewitness account of the creature even remotely resembling a giant sloth.
Modern interpretation of oral traditions, along with virtually dismissing the accounts of native people having physical encounters with an upright bipedal creature, featuring a pouch on its frontal torso, have been dismissed by science as mis-identification by the traditional people of the area. This is just the same sort of intellectual arrogance that has dismissed thousands of reports over hundreds of years detailing what we now call the yowie.
From this point I will make direct comparisons between the earliest accounts describing these two creatures as the eyewitnesses themselves have described them. Firstly one must suspend the inclination to imagine either the yowie or the Mapinguari as Sasquatch subspecies, simply because Sasquatch are not marsupials and could not have evolved and migrated from south America to Australia as described in detail above.
The name Mapinguari translates as “roaring animal” or “fetid beast”.
THE MOUTH ON THE CREATURES TORSO AREA:
The only possibility which would explain this characteristic as one which might occur in the natural world, would be if the creature has a pouch for carrying its young. This evolutionary adaptation is only seen in marsupials such as kangaroos, and koala's. Pouches are different amongst different marsupials, two kinds distinguishable (on the front or belly): opening towards the head and extending the cavity under the skin towards the tail (forward, or up) or opening towards the tail and extending towards the front legs (to the rear, backward or down).
THE YOWIE
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasin reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokeshead out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child and much more human than its grown parent".
FACT: Some marsupials lack the true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguari is said to have backwards feet.
THE YOWIE
Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal - 1902 reports
“The "Yahoo," (as we all know) is an animal said to resemble a man only that his body is covered with long hair, and his feet are turned backwards, there being where the heel should be."
THE MAPINGUARI
One of the most reliable early sightings was made by Ramón Lista in the late 19th century. While riding in Santa Cruz, he saw a shaggy red-haired creature run across the road ahead of him.He shot at the animal and was amazed that the bullets bounced off its skin.
THE YOWIE
The Richmond River Herald and Northern Districts Advertiser (NSW ) Fri 22 Jun 1906
"...Clifford, who had a 32 Winchester, had his arms at the moment busy working through the bush. As speedily as possible he fired. The animal which, he says, appeared to be 8ft high and 3ft broad, black in color, and covered with hair of great length, gave several un-earthly yells, something like a native bear, and made off. Clifford fired two more shots at it as it fled over a flat".
THE MAPINGUARI
Local people describe the beast as being ferocious, and able to move through the vegetation without making a sound.Other descriptors include long, powerful arms that could tear down a palm tree, and thick, matted fur. The creature is also said to emit a terrifying shriek.
THE YOWIE
Dungog Chronicle : Durham and Gloucester Advertiser Fri 17 Jul 1896
A resident of Tenterfield has reported that he was attacked by a large hairy animal like a gorilla. An armed party have gone out in' pursuit of the creature.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW ) Sat 28 Aug 1886
"Whilst a young man named Flyn was ooking after stock at the back of the Bredbo station one afternoon last week, he was sur- prised to observe a hairy human form, about seven feet in height, walking in the bush.
The wild man walked with an unsteady, swinging, and fast step, his arms being bent forward and nearly reaching the ground, whilst the colour was described as " bay," be-tween a red and chestnut.
Flynn did not take a second look at the uncanny creature .but rode as fast as he could to the homestead of Mr. Crimmings, nearly two miles away, to whom he reported the strange, mysterious affair.
Since then, Mr. Crimmings himself has interviewed the monster, and his account tallies exactly with that given by Mr. Flynn. But Mr. Crimmings heard the animal make a cry that sounded very like " Yahoo."
We hear that Mr. Joseph Hart, of Jingera, also saw the "Yahoo" as he was returning home one afternoon. The strange being is, no doubt, the "wild man" that has been so often talked of about Jingera for so many years past."
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguaris of local folklore have some disturbing characteristics (possibly exaggerated over the years as the legend grew), including having only one eye.
Its smell is putrid and its skin is seemingly impervious to arrows and bullets.
Another feature of the Mapinguari is that it is believed to be carnivorous, although there are no accounts of it ever eating humans.
They tend to attack cattle, killing them and ripping out their tongues with their sharp claws.
The Mapinguari seems to look like Bigfoot but retains certain sloth-like features.
THE YOWIE
The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
As near as I can describe it,the creature appeared to be fully nine
feet in height; heal large, and resembling that of a baboon, but with a face
more human-like; arms long, black, muscular, and devoid of hair; body
large and round, almost balloon-shaped, legs of extraordinary length, Before disappearing over the summit of the hill, it turned around
and made several hideous grimaces at us, displaying a double tier of long yel
low teeth".
THE MAPINGUARI
In 1975, a miner named Mário Pereira de Souza claimed he saw a Mapinguari at a mining camp along the Rio Jamauchím south of Itaituba, Pará State, Brazil.
He says he heard a scream and turned to see a huge creature advancing towards him on its hind legs. He remembers the creature’s awful stench.
A group of Kanamarí Indians in the Rio Juruá Valley state that they raised two Mapinguaris on bananas and milk. They say they released the creatures after about two years because their stench had become too much to bear. No one seems to know what happened to these Mapinguaris.
In 1994, biologist David Oren spoke to The New York Times about the fact that Amazonians were reporting sightings of Mapinguaris. He organized a trip to the Amazon, however this expedition failed to uncover any evidence.
Discover Magazine ran a story about a Brazilian man who had supposedly encountered a Mapinguari. Manuel Vitorino Pinheiro dos Santos, an experienced hunter, heard a blood-curdling scream while moving through the Amazon. Hiding in a river, Manuel heard the scream a further four times as the creature slowly moved away.
THE YOWIE
The Grenfell Record and Lachlan District Advertiser 1876:
“Leaving one of their young friends to boil the billy and prepare supper. While, so engaged the young women was suddenly startled by observing a man, as she naturally imagined, at first sight, was one of their own party, coming towards the fire, on walking closer, discovered the appearance to be unsightly an inhuman, bearing in every way the shape of a man with a big red face, hands and legs covered all over with long, shaggy hair, from fright she became almost spell-bound, screamed and screeched but unable to run. The men, on hearing such unearthly cries, left their fishing lines and ran with all speed towards their comrade;
She describes the creature:
"The head was covered with dark grisly hair, the face with shaggy darkish hair, the; back and belly and down the legs covered with hair of a lighter colour. This devil-devil or -whatever it may be called doubled round and hurriedly made back towards the fire and woman again.”
What the accounts you have just read demonstrate, is the high degree of morphological and behavioural similarities, involving two distinctly cryptid species, separated by continents, oceans and it’s own evolutionary development timeframe. However as the earliest witness descriptions plainly show minimal differences between the two creatures.
The Mapinguary as it was originally described resembles, what a large upright marsupial should look and act like, that much is clear, but what of the Yowie, now that abundant evidence proves a deep genetic link connecting Australia’s fauna, with that of the South American continent (this would include its traditional peoples via the relic Australoid DNA )?
If the yowie is not an upright marsupial, and as aboriginal tradition dictates, it was in existence on this continent prior to human occupation over 60,000 years ago, how did it get to Australia when no other placental mammals crossed the Wallace line from the North through Asia or neither crossed via a Pangea n land bridge from South America and Antarctica?
There can only be one correct answer from a choice of two possibilities.
1) The yowie is indeed a marsupial cousin to the Mapinguary and migrated to Australia with other monotremes prior to continental separation of Australia from the landmass of Antarctica and South America.
2) The yowie is a species of placental mammal that evolved on the continent of Antarctica when it had an ice free, favourable climate and migrated to Australia prior to continental drift.
Option two is the least likely because no other placental mammals made the same journey into Australia., whilst the genetic exchange between South America and Australia is beyond refute.
When all current data is considered, logic and Occam’s razor would dictate that the Yowie is indeed and upright bipedal marsupial, who’s genetic origins would have been North America and later South America to migrate to what is now Australia via Pangea like landmass.
So in having at at least a testable theory of yowie species point of origin and species radiation to work with I began to compile and study every yowie report on record from Tasmania to the far northern coast of Australia.
After a year and a half of research I had compiled and completed an extremely telling digital pin map that provided me with large and surprisingly numerous clusters of sightings that had a broad and consistent spread of dates indicating a long term and ongoing habitation .in certain areas.
Now I had a potentially plausible species.
A likely point of entry into Australia .
A well researched starting point.
A database of remarkably consistent descriptions spanning hundreds of years .
The completed cluster pin map provided me with a clear date ranged species migratory radiation pattern beginning in the South and spreading to the north .
The cluster map provided me with an optimal, boots on ground, field research location.
The location I ended up selecting was Tivoli in South Eastern Queensland. The area is central to a majority of good reputable and numerous sightings clusters samples and provided a varied selection of good potential yowie habitats without the terrain access rigors presented in places like the Blue Mountains in NSW.
I had success filming a potential yowie in HD from a distance of 500 meters within the first month of arriving here. In fact the footage made print in THE QUEENSLAND TIMES in January of last year and was well received by nearly all independent researchers.
Over the course of time since last January I have published 87 videos denoting habitats that have yielded good results with ground evidence such as footprints, hair samples, tree breaks, primitive structures that are suggestive of ambush hunting blinds , the recording of vocalisations including one example that has all the hallmarks of inter species gluteral communication seemingly in a structured language.
I have developed a fresh methodology which has yeilded remarkable results in a very short space of time, which can be traced directly to information consistencies contained in the witness reports themselves.
I have discarded entrenched methods that have failed in the past, such as trail cameras, team or accompanied ground searches, tree knocking, whooping, scent placing, bate and trap setting along with just about every other known but failed methods.
Instead I went back to putting myself in the circumstances in which almost all yowie reports spring from. A lone person in a well scouted location late at night, with an Infra red capable HD camera.
I have attached video examples of some of the successes I have had for your inspection
Whilst I am well schooled in the very real risks of operating at night in an ambush predators domain, based on current results I am willing to take the risk.
A location in Chuwar I have named "the thicket" has yielded crisp clear and consistent eye shine at night by a specimen of over nine feet in height.
Also unknown to myself at the time of filming, a breif but clear daytime video of a black male yowie a mere twenty feet from my filming position, watching me intently from inside " the thicket" he was accompanied by what to my mind was a female of the species, tan in color, a few feet behind him. I had no idea I was that close until I reviewed the footage, masters of patient observational stealth they clearly are.
Some brief feild observations indicative of consistent behavioral traits, that I have observed in the species, along with environmental changes associated with prolonged yowie presence in given areas.
Peak activity and sighting periods begin in early January and increases as temperatures rise above 30 deg c
The species examples at both Pine Mountain and Chuwar that I have been studying are defiantly and predominantly nocturnal predators, whom will seek out well canopied and ground covered areas, such as thickets and deeply overgrown but dry creeks during these hotter periods, where the day time temperature can be as much as 10 degrees cooler. They are stubbornly reluctant to leave these shaded cool places during the day for any reason as demonstrated by the filming of them at a close proximity of twenty feet. At these times night activity is intensive.
The activity decreases as the temperature drops and tapers off to almost nil activity in the colder months.
They move on from these seasonal areas until the temperature increases again the following year. This is noted in the date range presented in compiled sightings reports and I observed it myself over the limited period of the single seasonal year I have researched the locations.
Yowies seem to affect spider population increases in forested areas by consuming ground species that feed on the spiders and by affecting bird population desertions of the immediate area and surrounds that yowies occupy.
I have documented thousands of large web structures spanning wide and canopy free animal trails , occupied by fat and unusually engorged orb weavers of varying species that have remained in the exposed central portion of the web for days and nights end to end at a time, with no indication of bird predation or web destruction. Birds rather occupy adjacent forestry areas in good numbers where the spider population by comparison is smaller and hard pressed through normal bird and small predator culling.
In general all species populations drop dramatically almost to nothing observable in areas yowies are in residence for extended periods. I can't confirm the cause as predation by Yowies or instinctual relocation by the creatures affected by the very presence of yowies in the area.
This gives some plausible cause for the legendary, often reported as Para natural, forest silence attributed to yowies and reported by witnesses coincidentally visiting yowie preferred summer habitation forest areas at Pine Mountain, Tivoli and Chuwar that I have thus observed.
There is a lot more to discuss, however as this is merely an initial introduction and outreach to your good self.
I will eagerly await your expert commentary when you of course have the spare time in your, Im sure, very busy schedule.
All of my research footage is offered up for any use with no charge or restrictions and can be found and viewed in full simply googling the following keywords
Paul John McLeod
Global Monster
Chasing the grigori
Pine Mountain yowie
Chuwar yowie
Bundamba yowie
Ipswich yowie (which will reveal last years QUEENSLAND TIMES yowie article )
Kindest Regards to you Dr Opit
Thank you for taking the time to read my humble repo
Dear Paul,
Thank you very much for contacting me & outlining your research which I have found of great interest. As far as I know you are the first to link the Yowie with the Mapinguari, which is imaginative & quite possible. I have studied the crypto material extensively over the years & it is very remarkable how many unknown species appear to exist & how few the number of researchers. I have known many researchers for decades and it is good to hear of more people entering the field with fresh ideas. I have not spent a lot of time recently looking at the internet crypto information coming through so have not viewed your material so thank you for the links & I will have a look.
I am very interested in knowing where you obtained the Kiama Independent and Shoalhaven Advertiser 31 May 1889 report, as I do not recall having seen it before. I certainly do not remember reading of Mr. J. Higgins of Como’s statement; "Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swung a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
Nor do I remember reading of the statement in The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912 by Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackville, 'Hawksbury River, describing the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasn’t reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokes head out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child and much more human than its grown parent".
I regularly receive very interesting reports of an array of unknown species, particularly Yowies. I have been sending the Yowie reports to Tony Healy & Paul Cropper for their new Yowie book & have investigated the more promising reports that take place nearby. As you probably know, there appear to be 3, perhaps even 4 different Yowie-like animal species evidenced from their footprints & sightings. Reports of a metre high species that may be aligned with Homo floresiensis, a 2 to 3 metre high species that may be aligned with Homo erectus, Meganthropus palaeojavanicus or even Gigantopithecus.
Lauren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe have proposed that two unverified species of hominin exist in Australia, Gigantopithecus and an unknown species of ape or Pongid. They have identified the Yowie living along the eastern heavily forested portions of Australia as the unknown Pongid reaching a height of 2 metres and the Jimbra, Tjangara, and Koyoreowen of Western and South Australia and Turramulli from North Queensland as a fully bipedal Gigantopithecus.
Of particular interest to me are the reports & photographs of 3-toed footprints that do not look at all like a primate. I have been very interested for a long time in the thought that there is a possibility that one of the species referred to as a Yowie may indeed be an example of parallel evolution, a marsupial-man, as you have investigated. I received a report of what may be this animal in 2013; Steve Cranny saw a creature that looked to him to be a giant koala-like animal, standing on two legs and leaning against a tree near McPhaills Road & Harmonen Road at Huonbrook behind Mullumbimby, in north-east NSW, where I live at Wooyung / Yelgun. I have also received several Diprotodon-like animal reports, even a family of Diprotodon or bear-like animals with 2 adults & 2 young following. A fossil of a marsupial gorilla or panda, known as the Mountain Diprotodontid (Hulitherium thomasettii) was discovered in Papua New Guinea in 1986 & it weighed around 300kg, had highly mobile limbs, a short muzzle and a domed head. There is a possibility that this is the animal that was killed by Mr. Arthur Marrin as he was going in to Captain's Flat and reported in the Braidwood Dispatch 123 years ago & could also be similar to the Mapinguari.
You mention the deep water channels between the islands of Bali and Lombok, part of the Wallace Line that divides the Australian fauna from the Asian fauna, that has always kept the different faunas apart. Typical Asian animals such as monkeys, squirrels and cats are naturally found in Bali but not further east. Leaf eating langur monkeys have been introduced to Lombok. Many millions of years ago rats and snakes have floated on debris to colonise island and eventually Australia and evolved into many unique species. Elephants also swam across & colonised some of the islands, decreased in size over time and developed into a unique species of now extinct miniature elephant known as Stegadonts.
A very few elephant fossils are known from Australia. Homo erectus is known from fossil evidence and stone tools dated at 900,000 years from the island of Flores. Whether Homo erectus was accidentally dispersed across the intervening channels by being washed out to sea by cyclonic storms or tsunamis and clinging to trees or actually constructed rafts to engage in voyages of discovery is unknown. Because Homo erectus reached the islands north of Australia almost a million years ago it is very likely that our nearest ancestor also reached the Australian continent, although there is no fossil evidence for that.
During the lowest sea levels there is a possibility that hominids such as Homo floresiensis & Homo erectus washed out to sea by cyclonic storms or tsunamis and clinging to trees may have made it to this continent, though one would think that evidence of such would have been found in the fossil record. However, a remarkable discovery has been recently made by Steven & Evan Strong of two entire skeletons with skulls that strongly resemble Homo erectus have been unearthed from a ceremonial burial as reported in the latest Nexus Magazine & there will be a conference on this subject in Brisbane in June 2018, which I hope to attend. I have been slowly rewriting my 2009 book Australian Cryptozoology because of the large number of reports that I have received during that time & recently had published my scientific paper Citizen science & Cryptozoology in the Australian Zoologist that you may have seen on my Facebook page Australian Cryptozoology Gary Opit. Thank you for your photos.
The most important research now is to collect DNA which should be lying everywhere on the ground wherever these animals are living & can probably be collected by using stick tape on footprints & then placing the tape & the soil adhering into a clean plastic bag or jar & filing it away until it can be analysed. Please keep up your research, I was particularly interested in your observations of behaviour during different temperatures, etc.
Keep in touch,
Gary.
Hello Dr Opit
My name is Paul John McLeod
I am an ex military member, published author and now full time researcher of Australia's cryptic hominid.
I have followed your work for some years with great interest.
I am writing to your good self in order to share some interesting data that has come about as result of a three year (thus far) research project I have been compiling on the subject.
In an attempt to answer four very specific questions concerning the existence of the as yet unrecognized bipedal upright cryptid we call "yowie".
Given the vast array of eyewitness reports dating all the way back into prehistory, when one includes aboriginal oral traditions:
1) Why ( as at the current date) is there only volumes’ of anecdotal eyewitness accounts of such an upright bipedal mammal in Australia , yet precious little scientifically testable data to support its stated existence?
Alternately this same question can be rephrased as:
b) What factors have negated, restricted or otherwise encumbered discovery of such testable data? Indeed, could this data void be attributable to the use of incorrect research methodologies and assumptions?
2)Assuming the cryptid is an actual biological species , often described as a primate like creature, what was the creatures route and timeline of entry into Australia, given the well respected Wallace and Satual theories of biological barrier constrictions from Asia?
b) Was there at one time, an alternate means of entry onto the Australian continental landmass that would negate the Wallace and Satul null hypothesis?
If yes to sub question (b)
3) What evolutionary ancestry fits with the suggested upright, bipedal hominid like creatures description, given Australia’s known land based marsupial only, evolutionary history?
Wallace himself suggested the answer to the above question.
" Australian systematic zoology teems with forms exhibiting South American affinities. Curiously enough, many of these forms find their nearest relatives in Chili [Chile].
South America has a host of marsupial species, from the dwarf fat-tailed mouse opossum to the yapok, an aquatic marsupial. Palaeontologists have long wondered, When did the marsupials cross between Australia and the Americas?"
"Recent studies suggest that all or most of Australia's marsupials derive from an order of early North American marsupials of which today just a single representative exists, a sprightly, mouse-sized critter native to southern Chile known as the monito del monte, or "small monkey of the mountains. Both continents had catlike marsupial predators with interesting dentition. The Thylacoleonids which were Australian and had large pronounced incisors which are believed to have replaced the canines that a placental carnivore would have. The Thylacosmilids which had large saber like teeth which differed from the sabre-toothed cats elsewhere in the world due to sheaths that the Thylacosmilds had on their lower jaw."
"Today no monotremes exist outside of Australia (and New Guinea), and no placental mammals that didn't fly or swim there—for example, bats or dugongs—existed in Australia. Why didn't monotremes use the connection to leave Australia? And why didn't placentals use it to enter Australia?"
"Palaeontologists believe that the common ancestor that gave rise to the monito del monte, and the kangaroo and most or all other Australian marsupials, scurried from South America to Australia (through the intervening Antarctica) sometime before about 60 million years ago.
"These facts, taken in conjunction with geological evidence, have led many naturalists to assume a much greater extension of the Antarctic Continent in past times which is supposed to have been connected with South America, Australia, and New Zealand, and possibly, at a very remote period with Madagascar, thus permitting the migration of land and freshwater animals to and from those countries"
Which leaves the assumption that the yowie owes its evolutionary ancestry to primates, not as impossible but certainly as implausible based on the above.
There is a work around to this evolutionary travel conundrum.
4) Could the yowies physical attributes be an example of parallel evolutionary development
similar in form to an upright bipedal primate but is itself a marsupial ?
Some marsupials lack true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
There are several early "Australian Gorilla" witness reports that describe just such a skin flap on the creature at times .
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasnt reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokes head out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child andmuch more human than its grown parent".
So there is at least the suggested possibility of it having a biological connection to marsupials that entered Australia in the same way as every other marsupial, via a land bridge with an ice free and temperate in climate Antarctica, from South America.
This brings a theory I have developed into the present conversation, which provided me with the right platform to make some quite new and remarkable discoveries on the subject of the yowie. These I shall get to in due course.
The seeds of an unexpected and remarkable possibility germinated in my mind.
THE AUSTRLIAN MARSUPIAL CONNECTION WITH SOUTH AMERICA
A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND TO THE WALLACE LINE YOWIE CONUNDRUM.
INTRODUCTION
The Fugian people of Brazil’s Amazonia region, carry distinctive DNA sequences that identify them as the descendants of an earlier wave of colonists known as the Australoids. This Genetic link to the Austaloids is also common in Australian Aboriginals.
One of the most promising places to look for more definitive evidence linking an ancient Australoids population in the Americas with modern Australoid populations in south-east Asia and AustralIa is southernmost South America and the near-extinct indigenous peoples of Tierra del Fuego known as the Fuegians
One of the most distinctive ancient skulls from the Americas was discovered by a French-Brazilian archaeological team in Vermelho Cave, near Belo Horizonte in south-eastern Brazil in 1973.The skull, that of a young woman dubbed “Luzia”, yielded a radiocarbon age of 10,030 years. Its narrow, oval cranium with a projecting face and lower chin, resembled the skulls of modern Australoid peoples like Australia’s Aborigines, Melanesians, and the various South-east Asian peoples.
All of the above gives a good solid base with which to allow us to theorize that the Australian Yowie as an upright marsupial, may have migrated from South America or an ice fee and tropical Antarctica at some distant point in the past.
So is there any evidence for a similar upright marsupial living in South America at any point?
Indeed there is : The traditionally interpreted Mapinguari creature of the Amazon basin ,complete with a reported "mouth" in its stomach, (which I will immediately suggest is in fact a marsupial pouch rather than a mouth). Alternative suggestions of the creature being a giant sloth, in reality have no basis in fact and indeed are not even supported by eyewitness account of the creature even remotely resembling a giant sloth.
Modern interpretation of oral traditions, along with virtually dismissing the accounts of native people having physical encounters with an upright bipedal creature, featuring a pouch on its frontal torso, have been dismissed by science as mis-identification by the traditional people of the area. This is just the same sort of intellectual arrogance that has dismissed thousands of reports over hundreds of years detailing what we now call the yowie.
From this point I will make direct comparisons between the earliest accounts describing these two creatures as the eyewitnesses themselves have described them. Firstly one must suspend the inclination to imagine either the yowie or the Mapinguari as Sasquatch subspecies, simply because Sasquatch are not marsupials and could not have evolved and migrated from south America to Australia as described in detail above.
The name Mapinguari translates as “roaring animal” or “fetid beast”.
THE MOUTH ON THE CREATURES TORSO AREA:
The only possibility which would explain this characteristic as one which might occur in the natural world, would be if the creature has a pouch for carrying its young. This evolutionary adaptation is only seen in marsupials such as kangaroos, and koala's. Pouches are different amongst different marsupials, two kinds distinguishable (on the front or belly): opening towards the head and extending the cavity under the skin towards the tail (forward, or up) or opening towards the tail and extending towards the front legs (to the rear, backward or down).
THE YOWIE
As reported in The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
"Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swang a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912
Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackvllle, 'Hawksbury River, described the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasin reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokeshead out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child and much more human than its grown parent".
FACT: Some marsupials lack the true, permanent pouches as seen in other species. Instead, they form temporary skin folds called "pseudo-pouches, in the mammary region when reproducing.
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguari is said to have backwards feet.
THE YOWIE
Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal - 1902 reports
“The "Yahoo," (as we all know) is an animal said to resemble a man only that his body is covered with long hair, and his feet are turned backwards, there being where the heel should be."
THE MAPINGUARI
One of the most reliable early sightings was made by Ramón Lista in the late 19th century. While riding in Santa Cruz, he saw a shaggy red-haired creature run across the road ahead of him.He shot at the animal and was amazed that the bullets bounced off its skin.
THE YOWIE
The Richmond River Herald and Northern Districts Advertiser (NSW ) Fri 22 Jun 1906
"...Clifford, who had a 32 Winchester, had his arms at the moment busy working through the bush. As speedily as possible he fired. The animal which, he says, appeared to be 8ft high and 3ft broad, black in color, and covered with hair of great length, gave several un-earthly yells, something like a native bear, and made off. Clifford fired two more shots at it as it fled over a flat".
THE MAPINGUARI
Local people describe the beast as being ferocious, and able to move through the vegetation without making a sound.Other descriptors include long, powerful arms that could tear down a palm tree, and thick, matted fur. The creature is also said to emit a terrifying shriek.
THE YOWIE
Dungog Chronicle : Durham and Gloucester Advertiser Fri 17 Jul 1896
A resident of Tenterfield has reported that he was attacked by a large hairy animal like a gorilla. An armed party have gone out in' pursuit of the creature.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW ) Sat 28 Aug 1886
"Whilst a young man named Flyn was ooking after stock at the back of the Bredbo station one afternoon last week, he was sur- prised to observe a hairy human form, about seven feet in height, walking in the bush.
The wild man walked with an unsteady, swinging, and fast step, his arms being bent forward and nearly reaching the ground, whilst the colour was described as " bay," be-tween a red and chestnut.
Flynn did not take a second look at the uncanny creature .but rode as fast as he could to the homestead of Mr. Crimmings, nearly two miles away, to whom he reported the strange, mysterious affair.
Since then, Mr. Crimmings himself has interviewed the monster, and his account tallies exactly with that given by Mr. Flynn. But Mr. Crimmings heard the animal make a cry that sounded very like " Yahoo."
We hear that Mr. Joseph Hart, of Jingera, also saw the "Yahoo" as he was returning home one afternoon. The strange being is, no doubt, the "wild man" that has been so often talked of about Jingera for so many years past."
THE MAPINGUARI
The Mapinguaris of local folklore have some disturbing characteristics (possibly exaggerated over the years as the legend grew), including having only one eye.
Its smell is putrid and its skin is seemingly impervious to arrows and bullets.
Another feature of the Mapinguari is that it is believed to be carnivorous, although there are no accounts of it ever eating humans.
They tend to attack cattle, killing them and ripping out their tongues with their sharp claws.
The Mapinguari seems to look like Bigfoot but retains certain sloth-like features.
THE YOWIE
The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser On Fri 31 May 1889
By a Mr. J. Higgins of Como whom writes...
As near as I can describe it,the creature appeared to be fully nine
feet in height; heal large, and resembling that of a baboon, but with a face
more human-like; arms long, black, muscular, and devoid of hair; body
large and round, almost balloon-shaped, legs of extraordinary length, Before disappearing over the summit of the hill, it turned around
and made several hideous grimaces at us, displaying a double tier of long yel
low teeth".
THE MAPINGUARI
In 1975, a miner named Mário Pereira de Souza claimed he saw a Mapinguari at a mining camp along the Rio Jamauchím south of Itaituba, Pará State, Brazil.
He says he heard a scream and turned to see a huge creature advancing towards him on its hind legs. He remembers the creature’s awful stench.
A group of Kanamarí Indians in the Rio Juruá Valley state that they raised two Mapinguaris on bananas and milk. They say they released the creatures after about two years because their stench had become too much to bear. No one seems to know what happened to these Mapinguaris.
In 1994, biologist David Oren spoke to The New York Times about the fact that Amazonians were reporting sightings of Mapinguaris. He organized a trip to the Amazon, however this expedition failed to uncover any evidence.
Discover Magazine ran a story about a Brazilian man who had supposedly encountered a Mapinguari. Manuel Vitorino Pinheiro dos Santos, an experienced hunter, heard a blood-curdling scream while moving through the Amazon. Hiding in a river, Manuel heard the scream a further four times as the creature slowly moved away.
THE YOWIE
The Grenfell Record and Lachlan District Advertiser 1876:
“Leaving one of their young friends to boil the billy and prepare supper. While, so engaged the young women was suddenly startled by observing a man, as she naturally imagined, at first sight, was one of their own party, coming towards the fire, on walking closer, discovered the appearance to be unsightly an inhuman, bearing in every way the shape of a man with a big red face, hands and legs covered all over with long, shaggy hair, from fright she became almost spell-bound, screamed and screeched but unable to run. The men, on hearing such unearthly cries, left their fishing lines and ran with all speed towards their comrade;
She describes the creature:
"The head was covered with dark grisly hair, the face with shaggy darkish hair, the; back and belly and down the legs covered with hair of a lighter colour. This devil-devil or -whatever it may be called doubled round and hurriedly made back towards the fire and woman again.”
What the accounts you have just read demonstrate, is the high degree of morphological and behavioural similarities, involving two distinctly cryptid species, separated by continents, oceans and it’s own evolutionary development timeframe. However as the earliest witness descriptions plainly show minimal differences between the two creatures.
The Mapinguary as it was originally described resembles, what a large upright marsupial should look and act like, that much is clear, but what of the Yowie, now that abundant evidence proves a deep genetic link connecting Australia’s fauna, with that of the South American continent (this would include its traditional peoples via the relic Australoid DNA )?
If the yowie is not an upright marsupial, and as aboriginal tradition dictates, it was in existence on this continent prior to human occupation over 60,000 years ago, how did it get to Australia when no other placental mammals crossed the Wallace line from the North through Asia or neither crossed via a Pangea n land bridge from South America and Antarctica?
There can only be one correct answer from a choice of two possibilities.
1) The yowie is indeed a marsupial cousin to the Mapinguary and migrated to Australia with other monotremes prior to continental separation of Australia from the landmass of Antarctica and South America.
2) The yowie is a species of placental mammal that evolved on the continent of Antarctica when it had an ice free, favourable climate and migrated to Australia prior to continental drift.
Option two is the least likely because no other placental mammals made the same journey into Australia., whilst the genetic exchange between South America and Australia is beyond refute.
When all current data is considered, logic and Occam’s razor would dictate that the Yowie is indeed and upright bipedal marsupial, who’s genetic origins would have been North America and later South America to migrate to what is now Australia via Pangea like landmass.
So in having at at least a testable theory of yowie species point of origin and species radiation to work with I began to compile and study every yowie report on record from Tasmania to the far northern coast of Australia.
After a year and a half of research I had compiled and completed an extremely telling digital pin map that provided me with large and surprisingly numerous clusters of sightings that had a broad and consistent spread of dates indicating a long term and ongoing habitation .in certain areas.
Now I had a potentially plausible species.
A likely point of entry into Australia .
A well researched starting point.
A database of remarkably consistent descriptions spanning hundreds of years .
The completed cluster pin map provided me with a clear date ranged species migratory radiation pattern beginning in the South and spreading to the north .
The cluster map provided me with an optimal, boots on ground, field research location.
The location I ended up selecting was Tivoli in South Eastern Queensland. The area is central to a majority of good reputable and numerous sightings clusters samples and provided a varied selection of good potential yowie habitats without the terrain access rigors presented in places like the Blue Mountains in NSW.
I had success filming a potential yowie in HD from a distance of 500 meters within the first month of arriving here. In fact the footage made print in THE QUEENSLAND TIMES in January of last year and was well received by nearly all independent researchers.
Over the course of time since last January I have published 87 videos denoting habitats that have yielded good results with ground evidence such as footprints, hair samples, tree breaks, primitive structures that are suggestive of ambush hunting blinds , the recording of vocalisations including one example that has all the hallmarks of inter species gluteral communication seemingly in a structured language.
I have developed a fresh methodology which has yeilded remarkable results in a very short space of time, which can be traced directly to information consistencies contained in the witness reports themselves.
I have discarded entrenched methods that have failed in the past, such as trail cameras, team or accompanied ground searches, tree knocking, whooping, scent placing, bate and trap setting along with just about every other known but failed methods.
Instead I went back to putting myself in the circumstances in which almost all yowie reports spring from. A lone person in a well scouted location late at night, with an Infra red capable HD camera.
I have attached video examples of some of the successes I have had for your inspection
Whilst I am well schooled in the very real risks of operating at night in an ambush predators domain, based on current results I am willing to take the risk.
A location in Chuwar I have named "the thicket" has yielded crisp clear and consistent eye shine at night by a specimen of over nine feet in height.
Also unknown to myself at the time of filming, a breif but clear daytime video of a black male yowie a mere twenty feet from my filming position, watching me intently from inside " the thicket" he was accompanied by what to my mind was a female of the species, tan in color, a few feet behind him. I had no idea I was that close until I reviewed the footage, masters of patient observational stealth they clearly are.
Some brief feild observations indicative of consistent behavioral traits, that I have observed in the species, along with environmental changes associated with prolonged yowie presence in given areas.
Peak activity and sighting periods begin in early January and increases as temperatures rise above 30 deg c
The species examples at both Pine Mountain and Chuwar that I have been studying are defiantly and predominantly nocturnal predators, whom will seek out well canopied and ground covered areas, such as thickets and deeply overgrown but dry creeks during these hotter periods, where the day time temperature can be as much as 10 degrees cooler. They are stubbornly reluctant to leave these shaded cool places during the day for any reason as demonstrated by the filming of them at a close proximity of twenty feet. At these times night activity is intensive.
The activity decreases as the temperature drops and tapers off to almost nil activity in the colder months.
They move on from these seasonal areas until the temperature increases again the following year. This is noted in the date range presented in compiled sightings reports and I observed it myself over the limited period of the single seasonal year I have researched the locations.
Yowies seem to affect spider population increases in forested areas by consuming ground species that feed on the spiders and by affecting bird population desertions of the immediate area and surrounds that yowies occupy.
I have documented thousands of large web structures spanning wide and canopy free animal trails , occupied by fat and unusually engorged orb weavers of varying species that have remained in the exposed central portion of the web for days and nights end to end at a time, with no indication of bird predation or web destruction. Birds rather occupy adjacent forestry areas in good numbers where the spider population by comparison is smaller and hard pressed through normal bird and small predator culling.
In general all species populations drop dramatically almost to nothing observable in areas yowies are in residence for extended periods. I can't confirm the cause as predation by Yowies or instinctual relocation by the creatures affected by the very presence of yowies in the area.
This gives some plausible cause for the legendary, often reported as Para natural, forest silence attributed to yowies and reported by witnesses coincidentally visiting yowie preferred summer habitation forest areas at Pine Mountain, Tivoli and Chuwar that I have thus observed.
There is a lot more to discuss, however as this is merely an initial introduction and outreach to your good self.
I will eagerly await your expert commentary when you of course have the spare time in your, Im sure, very busy schedule.
All of my research footage is offered up for any use with no charge or restrictions and can be found and viewed in full simply googling the following keywords
Paul John McLeod
Global Monster
Chasing the grigori
Pine Mountain yowie
Chuwar yowie
Bundamba yowie
Ipswich yowie (which will reveal last years QUEENSLAND TIMES yowie article )
Kindest Regards to you Dr Opit
Thank you for taking the time to read my humble repo
Dear Paul,
Thank you very much for contacting me & outlining your research which I have found of great interest. As far as I know you are the first to link the Yowie with the Mapinguari, which is imaginative & quite possible. I have studied the crypto material extensively over the years & it is very remarkable how many unknown species appear to exist & how few the number of researchers. I have known many researchers for decades and it is good to hear of more people entering the field with fresh ideas. I have not spent a lot of time recently looking at the internet crypto information coming through so have not viewed your material so thank you for the links & I will have a look.
I am very interested in knowing where you obtained the Kiama Independent and Shoalhaven Advertiser 31 May 1889 report, as I do not recall having seen it before. I certainly do not remember reading of Mr. J. Higgins of Como’s statement; "Attached to its back immediately above the tail, there swung a baggy appendage, from which something living protruded, and which we took to be either its young or some animal captured and stored for food".
Nor do I remember reading of the statement in The Sun newspaper on 17 Nov 1912 by Mr. Horace Saxon of Sackville, 'Hawksbury River, describing the creature as...
"...neither ape, nor man, but may be' best described as marsupial man. The so-called hanging stomach seen by Mr Harper wasn’t reality the pouch in which it carries Its young, like other marsupials. The black baby when he pokes head out of the pouch is strikingly like an aboriginal child and much more human than its grown parent".
I regularly receive very interesting reports of an array of unknown species, particularly Yowies. I have been sending the Yowie reports to Tony Healy & Paul Cropper for their new Yowie book & have investigated the more promising reports that take place nearby. As you probably know, there appear to be 3, perhaps even 4 different Yowie-like animal species evidenced from their footprints & sightings. Reports of a metre high species that may be aligned with Homo floresiensis, a 2 to 3 metre high species that may be aligned with Homo erectus, Meganthropus palaeojavanicus or even Gigantopithecus.
Lauren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe have proposed that two unverified species of hominin exist in Australia, Gigantopithecus and an unknown species of ape or Pongid. They have identified the Yowie living along the eastern heavily forested portions of Australia as the unknown Pongid reaching a height of 2 metres and the Jimbra, Tjangara, and Koyoreowen of Western and South Australia and Turramulli from North Queensland as a fully bipedal Gigantopithecus.
Of particular interest to me are the reports & photographs of 3-toed footprints that do not look at all like a primate. I have been very interested for a long time in the thought that there is a possibility that one of the species referred to as a Yowie may indeed be an example of parallel evolution, a marsupial-man, as you have investigated. I received a report of what may be this animal in 2013; Steve Cranny saw a creature that looked to him to be a giant koala-like animal, standing on two legs and leaning against a tree near McPhaills Road & Harmonen Road at Huonbrook behind Mullumbimby, in north-east NSW, where I live at Wooyung / Yelgun. I have also received several Diprotodon-like animal reports, even a family of Diprotodon or bear-like animals with 2 adults & 2 young following. A fossil of a marsupial gorilla or panda, known as the Mountain Diprotodontid (Hulitherium thomasettii) was discovered in Papua New Guinea in 1986 & it weighed around 300kg, had highly mobile limbs, a short muzzle and a domed head. There is a possibility that this is the animal that was killed by Mr. Arthur Marrin as he was going in to Captain's Flat and reported in the Braidwood Dispatch 123 years ago & could also be similar to the Mapinguari.
You mention the deep water channels between the islands of Bali and Lombok, part of the Wallace Line that divides the Australian fauna from the Asian fauna, that has always kept the different faunas apart. Typical Asian animals such as monkeys, squirrels and cats are naturally found in Bali but not further east. Leaf eating langur monkeys have been introduced to Lombok. Many millions of years ago rats and snakes have floated on debris to colonise island and eventually Australia and evolved into many unique species. Elephants also swam across & colonised some of the islands, decreased in size over time and developed into a unique species of now extinct miniature elephant known as Stegadonts.
A very few elephant fossils are known from Australia. Homo erectus is known from fossil evidence and stone tools dated at 900,000 years from the island of Flores. Whether Homo erectus was accidentally dispersed across the intervening channels by being washed out to sea by cyclonic storms or tsunamis and clinging to trees or actually constructed rafts to engage in voyages of discovery is unknown. Because Homo erectus reached the islands north of Australia almost a million years ago it is very likely that our nearest ancestor also reached the Australian continent, although there is no fossil evidence for that.
During the lowest sea levels there is a possibility that hominids such as Homo floresiensis & Homo erectus washed out to sea by cyclonic storms or tsunamis and clinging to trees may have made it to this continent, though one would think that evidence of such would have been found in the fossil record. However, a remarkable discovery has been recently made by Steven & Evan Strong of two entire skeletons with skulls that strongly resemble Homo erectus have been unearthed from a ceremonial burial as reported in the latest Nexus Magazine & there will be a conference on this subject in Brisbane in June 2018, which I hope to attend. I have been slowly rewriting my 2009 book Australian Cryptozoology because of the large number of reports that I have received during that time & recently had published my scientific paper Citizen science & Cryptozoology in the Australian Zoologist that you may have seen on my Facebook page Australian Cryptozoology Gary Opit. Thank you for your photos.
The most important research now is to collect DNA which should be lying everywhere on the ground wherever these animals are living & can probably be collected by using stick tape on footprints & then placing the tape & the soil adhering into a clean plastic bag or jar & filing it away until it can be analysed. Please keep up your research, I was particularly interested in your observations of behaviour during different temperatures, etc.
Keep in touch,
Gary.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Hi Paul,paulmcleod67 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 am Going through all the footage from multiple trips to the Chuwar site and I reckon I got the creature on a couple of frames from a zoom
and pan that I hadn't used. Now I'm prepared for the usual "paradolia matey" statements. All good but I really wouldnt have posted it if I though it was matrixing.
https://youtu.be/ykZG79YQ1Ck
I saw this on your YouTube channel and found it very interesting. In particular the way the light cast shadows down and across the figure. I have to ask, and I know your thoughts on protection and I too carry my kabar when I'm out, but have you done any comparison images yet?
It would go along way to support the original footage.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
An early morning reconnaissance of a ridge line above "the thicket" in Chuwar S.E Queensland, where I will be placing a trail camera in mid March.
https://youtu.be/Izioj9MkomE
https://youtu.be/Izioj9MkomE
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Your on the right track Paul. They are there on the outskirts of suburbia. Doubt youll get a clear pick but no harm in trying!
Those golden orbs are all over brisbane. Some areas there are huge clusters of them on the phone wires. They dont seem to get picked off by the birds of which there are many. Maybe more food in the suburbs?
Those golden orbs are all over brisbane. Some areas there are huge clusters of them on the phone wires. They dont seem to get picked off by the birds of which there are many. Maybe more food in the suburbs?
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
More potential evidence of Yowie activity in Chuwar S.E Queensland.
After a full week of torrential rain I decided to go back to the thicket at Chuwar early in the morning hoping that after all the rain,with the ground foliage soaked, that I might be a little more stealthy moving into the area and with luck capture something solid on film. I may have caught one napping under some dense brush which ,as usual I didn't really get a good look at until I reviewed the footage.This is the same area that I have captured clear night eye shine, a massive tree snap followed by an unearthly roar and potential footage of one watching me. The unsettling thing is that this particular part of Chuwar is only a few kilometers from a sparse residential area.
Here is a still frame and a crop with slight tone adjustment.
I'm going back today to see if whatever it was...is still there.
Ill post the footage as soon as it uploads being a large 2 gig hd file and working from
a shitty vodafone dongal it takes ages to get the footage online.
After a full week of torrential rain I decided to go back to the thicket at Chuwar early in the morning hoping that after all the rain,with the ground foliage soaked, that I might be a little more stealthy moving into the area and with luck capture something solid on film. I may have caught one napping under some dense brush which ,as usual I didn't really get a good look at until I reviewed the footage.This is the same area that I have captured clear night eye shine, a massive tree snap followed by an unearthly roar and potential footage of one watching me. The unsettling thing is that this particular part of Chuwar is only a few kilometers from a sparse residential area.
Here is a still frame and a crop with slight tone adjustment.
I'm going back today to see if whatever it was...is still there.
Ill post the footage as soon as it uploads being a large 2 gig hd file and working from
a shitty vodafone dongal it takes ages to get the footage online.
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Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Ok sorry for the upload delay
Here is the new video
https://youtu.be/LGuqhsiiL50
Here is the new video
https://youtu.be/LGuqhsiiL50
Re: A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017
Location map of all activity in the Chuwar area...near housing.
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Hey Paul
I can't get an idea of scale from the stills, but that looks a lot like a dog, staring straight at you. I see the eyebrow 'pips' and what looks like a muzzle and nose...
Shazz
I can't get an idea of scale from the stills, but that looks a lot like a dog, staring straight at you. I see the eyebrow 'pips' and what looks like a muzzle and nose...
Shazz
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