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WOW! .....What a topic,

Look people , theorys are theorys and there all good,but at the end of a day thay are just theorys.

My two cents worth is, some of this sounds a bit Bipolar.

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good 2 cents worth all the same

Theories are theories for sure

horserider wrote:bahahaha

good 2 cents worth all the same

Theories are theories for sure

Exactly, that is why this forum is here. To discuss both experiences and theories. Some seem far fetched and some seem quite plausibe, but at the end of the day they are just theories.
I say theory away.

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Hey Jeffa,
let me first apologise for taking so long to get back to you. Life has kept me very busy at the moment plus I just got a new book that I stumpled on by accident called" The Philadephia Experiment & Other UFO Conspiracies." by Brad Steiger. Had a very well written book on the subject many years ago,made the mistake of lending it to someone and never saw him and the book agin. As far as my own theories I'm pretty much the same as SAB 8 described his. Always reading up to date stuff were I can analyising it and modifying my own ideas again if needed. In that regard my ideas have changed a lot since I was at uni and truth be known changed while I was doing the assignment. The assignment topics where given, we didn't get to choose. My topic was" Should we be prepared for armed conflict if aliens are to make contact with us?"
Before I began research my opinion was that we had been geneticly interfered with in our past and that we were being treated as an on going experiment as a result. Unfortunatly I can't list my reference sources because there was a massive amount and over the years I've lost most of it and some of the web links don't exist anymore.
The paper that I submitted took the tack that the american government had been working in secret with the greys for many years and had fallen out on their plans of technology sharing because they worked out the americans weren't be as open with them.I cicted alien abductions and cattle mutalations as clandestine experimentation and that they were gearing up to take over.
Now I must state that I truely don't believe that, especially with the stuff I have read over the years since leaving uni.I do believe in the possibility that we have been the subject of outside interfrence,the theory presented earlier by others that we were used as a labour source and then left to our own devises afterwards I find believable. The way SAB compered alien abductions and the way our own scientists carry out animal experiments i totaly agree with, further to that tho, it says to me that the way they treat us like specimen and experiment accordingly rather than opening dialogue and communcating with us means that they don't regard us as being on the same level as themselves.
The demonic entity theory I don't buy into. Something demonic pretending to be alien I can accept butin saying that I believe that some of the aliens who visit us are definitly not interested in our well being.
Some of the stuff I have read over the years makes it clear ,if the theories are correct, that we are regularly visited by five different alien types. The first and best known are the greys. There are a few different theories on their existence, I personly favour the one that has them having under ground bases here and that makes it easier for them to carry on with their research of us without having to do regular long haul flights back to their point of origin.
Another type are described as reptilian and they possibly want our planets resources. I could be wrong on that but would be interested to hear if anyone can correct me.
Another group I read about briefly were tall fair aryan types who were in contact with the US government and could also have been the ones responible for hitlers ideas on a racially superior beings. The short article I read on them didn't specify their purpose.It described them as very aloof, quick to be offended and able to kill humans in a very painful way with the power of their minds. I remember now the article was written by some bloke who claimed to have worked on top secret US projects. The article provide a taste and to get the whole story send x amount of dollars for the full publication. I didn't bother because it sounded a bit far fetched. That and if there was any truth to what he was saying he would have had one of those accidents or heart attacks that seem common to former US government workers with a story to tell. I honestly can't call to much to mind on the other two,but would welcome input from some one with more information than myself.

Thanks for that Nemo, great info

So we know of Greys, Reptoids, Aryan, what about the Nordics? Are they supposed to be the aliens that resemble humans and some are supposed to live amongst us? They somewhat act as a peacekeeper to keep aliens in check?

Anyway just rambling but like the whole alien existance and views. thanks again

Now I must state that I truely don't believe that, especially with the stuff I have read over the years since leaving uni.I do believe in the possibility that we have been the subject of outside interfrence,the theory presented earlier by others that we were used as a labour source and then left to our own devises afterwards I find believable. The way SAB compered alien abductions and the way our own scientists carry out animal experiments i totaly agree with, further to that tho, it says to me that the way they treat us like specimen and experiment accordingly rather than opening dialogue and communcating with us means that they don't regard us as being on the same level as themselves.

Some interesting points Nemo.... just in regards to abductions and the greys, I would like to add that a lot of people assume the Greys are negative or indifferent to humans due to their conduct and behaviour, but this may not be necessarily so. Many abductees and abduction researchers comment that ET species (eg. Greys) are negative or have negative intent because they are emotionless or somewhat indifferent towards us, but perhaps these ET species don`t have the same emotional-mental make-up of humans??? That is, they are alien in every sense of the word.... Maybe they just don`t have the tools or mechanisms to express positive emotions/intent to the same capacity that we do??? Their behaviour and actions do not necessarily indicate that are negative or indifferent towards us. I find it interesting that many abduction accounts relate that the Greys often conduct research/experimentation in relation to human emotions, which seems to suggest that they have limited understanding of this aspect of our nature.

In regards to not opening up dialogue or communicating with us, maybe they have (eg. those authorities behind the cover-up)? There are other possibilities as to why they are not making open contact. For example, maybe they feel humanity is not ready for open contact and to do so would lead to a negative outcome. Maybe they are bound by directives or certain restrictions, just like Star Trek.... I would be surprised if these cultures did not have some form of rules or protocol in regard to emerging/maturing civilisations such as ours.

Maybe they are conducting work which would not be authorised by the greater consensus, take the apparent hybrid program, I doubt we would grant them approval for such a project, even if it was for a beneficial cause? There are numerous possibilities. In all honesty, the ETs don`t concern me half as much as the actual human authorities involved in the cover-up. I think they are the ones we all should be concerned about.

One researcher who I feel really has his finger on the pulse is Richard Dolan.... I am a big fan and if you get a chance have a look at his work.

SAB 8 wrote:

In regards to not opening up dialogue or communicating with us, maybe they have (eg. those authorities behind the cover-up)? There are other possibilities as to why they are not making open contact. For example, maybe they feel humanity is not ready for open contact and to do so would lead to a negative outcome. Maybe they are bound by directives or certain restrictions, just like Star Trek.... I would be surprised if these cultures did not have some form of rules or protocol in regard to emerging/maturing civilisations such as ours.

Maybe they are conducting work which would not be authorised by the greater consensus, take the apparent hybrid program, I doubt we would grant them approval for such a project, even if it was for a beneficial cause? There are numerous possibilities. In all honesty, the ETs don`t concern me half as much as the actual human authorities involved in the cover-up. I think they are the ones we all should be concerned about.

Dont like the fact you said its the humans we should be concerned with that are covering up because why would that be different to the ET's covering up if it were for the same reason of avoiding a negative outcome?
But I do like the fact you said it may be to avoid the possibility of a negative outcome , you could be on the money there

I think you have some correct leads

Nemo wrote:Hey Jeffa,
My topic was" Should we be prepared for armed conflict if aliens are to make contact with us?"

I do believe in the possibility that we have been the subject of outside interfrence

The demonic entity theory I don't buy into.

I believe that some of the aliens who visit us are definitly not interested in our well being.

okay

No i dont think we need to be prepared as i dont think we could ever be prepared for something like that & i also believe if something like that were to happen we may get defended from else where

I also believe in the possibility that we have been the subject of outside interference

I dont buy into demonic entity theory either & also agree that not all visitors are interested in our well being... but possibly not bad either... maybe something along the lines of for their own use... but maybe yeah also not a good use

So I am mostly with you Nemo there, i think we're on similar pages here

Anythings possible in this complex universe

Dont like the fact you said its the humans we should be concerned with that are covering up because why would that be different to the ET's covering up if it were for the same reason of avoiding a negative outcome?

The ETs may have benevolent reasons for not showing their presence (or not)..... Eg. Non or limited interference policies, who knows, there could be many reasons.

However, why the human cover-up? We may have limited knowledge in regards to ETs but we have some knowledge as to the likely participants of the cover-up (at one time or another anyway). The likely participants would include elements of the military and elements of the US intelligence network.... maybe a member of the alphabet soup agencies, maybe not? These organisations all have a history of questionable, unethical behaviour! Hence the reason why we should be concerned. Also, there is a lot of research which has lead many UFOlogists to believe that this shadow element are in possession of advanced technology, energy and propulsion systems which remain undisclosed to the general public. This technology may assist with pressing environmental concerns, not to mention the appalling poverty and inequality that afflcits the majority of the world`s population.

UFO Historian Richard Dolan has (in my opinion) some great insights and theories in this field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veQ-LCjDCAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8FGGqSW2XU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgU94ZkgB8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQuk7b5I6u0

Ahhhh yes well if we are talking about those type of groups & those reasons than definately agree with you.. sorry i was thinking of something else entirely.

They may have some good reasons too however when it comes to some particular ones as you are saying i cant help but be a bit suss myself. Havent watched the vids yet Ill have a squiz at them later

Cheers for posting them up :0)