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Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:48 pm
by sensesonfire
Just continuing on from my previous post as to why I believe Yowie has both physical and supernatural form.

Here is an excerpt from a report of a Yowie attack by Glen upon his best friend Anthony.

Location: Coral Bay Western Australia
Date: 2000

Suddenly the door opens (things aren't kept locked at night there is no need the caravan was isolated no real reason to fear burglary etc) and something BIG, and I mean big, jumped on to his back and PINNED his arms and legs down........ All he knew is that he had NO strength compared to this thing. It held him down and began growling in his ear.....
He was so scared he couldn't move.........he was frozen stiff. He couldn't do anything he lay there frozen in fear. After sometimes the thing jumped off him and just disappeared into the darkness...he just lay there scared sh*#less. (end of quote).


Now this man is a Qantas airline pilot I would suspect not prone to wild exaggerated stories so could someone please explain to me how a BIG creature probably in the same weight category as a mountain gorilla could jump onto someones back pin him down without causing serious injuries? There is obviously a strong possibility that this Yowie appeared in both physical and spirit form (immediately it jumped onto Anthony's back). I have referred to this story before without acquiring an acceptable answer.


'' All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream''.

Edgar Allan Poe.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:41 pm
by Greg W C Sims
Knees either side of back supporting majority of its weight.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:24 pm
by sensesonfire
Greg W C Sims wrote:Knees either side of back supporting majority of its weight.

I will agree with you there but what about the caravan bed or bunk? I imagine with 7-800 lbs jumping on it there would have been substantial damage. It was not mentioned but would be interesting to find out.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:35 pm
by Brindabella Ranger
Hi Sensesonfire, just saw this topic. Always interesting reading posts with a religious point of view. Without questioning your opinion, I’ll jot down mine with regards to your topic. I’ll work backwards.

In December last year I got hold of a book called ‘The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America’ written by Richard J Dewhurst who is an Emmy Award-winning writer of the HBO feature documentary Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam. A graduate of NYU with degrees in journalism, film, and television, he has written and edited for the History Channel, the Arts & Entertainment Channel, PBS, Fox Television and Fox Films, ABC News, TNT, Paramount Pictures, and the Miami Herald. With those credentials he’s no hoaxer, but neither an expert in the field of anthropology or ancient history for that matter. But he's done a terrific job of compiling the best reports of ‘giant skeleton’ finds (they are often referred as the Mound Builders) in the US for the last three hundred years. He doesn’t jump to conclusions or exaggerate and makes logical assumptions based on the evidence. His main angle is to throw suspicion on the Smithsonian Institute as to the cover up of the bones that ‘seem to disappear once unearthed’.

Regardless, my interest in the book was that I was seeking a connection between Sasquatch and these giant finds, but alas, there was none to be made. Dewhurst asserts these giants would have averaged between 6.5-10 feet tall (quickly discredits any report of greater height), wore an array of woven clothing, possessed sophisticated jewelry, pottery and most notably wielded copper and brass weapons. It was then found the copper used was connected to a number of ancient copper mines discovered near the Great Lakes. Obviously, these were either another culture of homo sapiens, or considering they kicked around in the America’s in 2000 B.C.E could have been another homo off-shoot (considering their size). If you enjoy the mysteries of human history that throws a spanner in evolution of civilization this book is great, but the evidence can’t be connected to the Sasquatch in anyway.

Regardless, the detailed reports on the skeletons and most notably the legends of the Native Americans suggests these giants were of ‘a giant fair race, some with flaming red hair’ and originally appeared from the east. If I’m to make an educated guess, that’s a description of a Caucasian of some sort. Since we can be confident Caucasians originated in Europe it would be logical these ‘giants’ came to America via the Atlantic (i.e the east), yes, more than thousand years before Columbus.

Forgetting the Columbus thing for a moment (should have been re-written years ago anyway) and assuming these giants originated in Europe, a coincidence can be drawn that they existed around the time the Bible speaks of the Nephilim. Could have long-disappeared cultures and peoples of ancient times reached giant size (between 6.5 and 10 feet)? I believe they could have. If anyone has met a big Tongan or stood next to an NBL team today would immediately say ‘yes’.

I know a bit about the Bible and know many people who live by it. Most of those whom I get along with admit the stories (specifically the Old Testament) shouldn’t be taken too seriously as many are based more on folk lore/myths/tales of the ancient peoples in that area. It can also be clearly admitted the stories are based on the perceptions and experiences of ancient peoples bereft of worldly knowledge we possess today – picture this – a small tribe in a remote Israeli valley area are invaded by a marauding army of wild Northmen (Caucasians) of great size in 2000 B.C.E. Compared to the primitive villagers of small stature, these ‘giants’ are so fierce and powerful they must be fallen angels or demons. Because they were often on male-only raiding parties, they often took the women of the tribe (some may have even had a go at a sheep/goat or two when desperate) raped them and bore children of mixed blood who also grew to a large size and possessed a wild personality.

I think the Old Testament is full of good stories and holds an interesting place in that misty area of history vs. myth of our human history, but tying it to our hairy friends whether it be the Yowie, Almas, Yeti, Sasquatch or Orang Pendek, I think the stretch is too great.

Again, just my opinion.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:47 pm
by sensesonfire
Just a video showing why I believe Yowie/Bigfoot are able to transfigure from a physical to a spiritual dimension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pvaAhMWzM

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:26 am
by macquariedave
sensesonfire wrote:Just a video showing why I believe Yowie/Bigfoot are able to transfigure from a physical to a spiritual dimension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pvaAhMWzM
Just shows the dangers of "belief". Begin to think more perhaps that that photo may possibly be a load of rubbish.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:57 pm
by Scarts
Nice find, sensesonfire! Bogus or legit, I was so impressed, I was going to make that figure in the photo my new avatar!

The one thing I find irritating, is there was zero mention of the negatives, which would help prove the image hadn't been tampered with. Granted, film does deteriorate after a while, but being such a mysterious photo, it would have been nice if the owner had made an attempt to preserve the negatives also.

What leads you to conclude that photo is a load of rubbish, macca?

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:07 am
by Brindabella Ranger
I've seen a doco that debunks this footage (from memory not an intentional hoax from photographer, but had something to do with the negatives/light etc), but can't remember where I found it.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:46 pm
by macquariedave
Scarts wrote:Nice find, sensesonfire! Bogus or legit, I was so impressed, I was going to make that figure in the photo my new avatar!

The one thing I find irritating, is there was zero mention of the negatives, which would help prove the image hadn't been tampered with. Granted, film does deteriorate after a while, but being such a mysterious photo, it would have been nice if the owner had made an attempt to preserve the negatives also.

What leads you to conclude that photo is a load of rubbish, macca?
I "concluded" nothing of the sort - please read more carefully. Thanks.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:55 am
by Scarts
Why did you, "Begin to think more perhaps that that", the photo is a load of rubbish, Macca? Wow! I've used your very own words this time to help you understand what I'm asking.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:02 pm
by Searcher
The fascinating and controversial photo taken by Reg Jones in 1932 with a Box Brownie camera has long fueled debate. I recall first seeing it in an episode ‘The Extraordinary”, an Australian produced TV program hosted by Warrick Moss in the early 90’s.
If only we still had the original roll of film containing that negative!! Today’s photographic analysis techniques would soon sort it out… I’ll be surprised if Reg is still with us, but as he obviously knew how important this photograph was, you would like to think his family would have kept the roll of film. That’s if he still had it in the first place…

Only my opinion, but I reckon Reg has captured an image of a Yowie ghost. Just as deceased people sometimes appear in photographs, so too do animals. Of course Reg and his friends would not have seen the immense figure as it was vibrating in a different dimension. However, the photographic emulsion on the film can often pick up these anomalies.

Again, my opinion, but I don’t think the Yowie image is a result of ‘tricks of light’. There are simply too many elements that would need to fall in place to make this happen. The image shown looks like it has been zoomed and cropped to emphasise both the two subjects and the mystery image behind. I think the original frame would have been much wider with the subjects more central.

If old Reg was a bit of a fox and had framed the original shot to the right to allow a double exposure with a model ape (or something) then it is obviously a fraud. However, if you watch and listen intently to his interview, my gut feeling is he is telling the truth.

Don’t you just love a good mystery! (happy)

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:04 am
by Scarts
That video looks like an episode of the extraordinary. That sounds like Warwick Moss talking.

If the figure in the photo is simply the product of the foliage and light and shadows being in exactly the right places at the right time by pure chance, it is still remarkable. It is the best example of paredolia I've ever seen if this is the case. The head is centralised on what looks like a symetrical pair of shoulders and arms, resting on a pair of equally sized legs. The shape is framed.

Something worth considering, is ol Reg mentioned that one night something shook his shoulder before waking him up to a dingo standing alongside him. It wasn't the dingo that perplexed Reg, but who or what shook his shoulder, alerting him to the danger. Then he stated he started thinking perhaps there was more to those "stories" he had heard. Was it stories of yowies he was referring to? If so, was he thinking of yowie imagery in the following days when he set out and then took this photo?

What I'm wondering, is could he have subconsciously, chosen the best place and time to take this photo of his mates where all the elements in the background combine to look like a monster sitting there, even though he didn't consciously realise what he was doing?

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:54 pm
by macquariedave
Scarts wrote:Why did you, "Begin to think more perhaps that that", the photo is a load of rubbish, Macca? Wow! I've used your very own words this time to help you understand what I'm asking.
Again, read again properly this time.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:51 am
by Scarts
"Begin to think more perhaps that that photo may possibly be a load of rubbish."

What makes you begin to think this?

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:03 pm
by Searcher
Scarts wrote:
Something worth considering, is ol Reg mentioned that one night something shook his shoulder before waking him up to a dingo standing alongside him. It wasn't the dingo that perplexed Reg, but who or what shook his shoulder, alerting him to the danger.
I’d like to relate my own Dingo experience. It was at Ayer’s Rock way back in October 1978 while producing a travel documentary. The cameraman and I chose to spend the night in our sleeping bags out in the open under the incredibly bright stars. I just love astronomy so this was an amazing experience.
I still keep in touch with this award winning cameraman although we have not spoken for over a year. As luck would have it, he phoned this morning out of the blue! So I was able to re-confirm details of the dingo encounter.

The cameraman said he was awakened during the night by a dingo that was up close and sniffing his face. As soon as he sat up the dingo ran off. I just saw it darting away. It is not a long bow to draw that old Reg’s experience was very similar. A sniff on the face, a tug on the shoulder… a similar ‘up close’ incident with Australia’s native dog.

The Park Ranger told us dingos come into the camp sites at night looking for food and are often seen taking items from bags and running off with them. This first hand experience removed any doubt for me about Lindy Chamberlain’s story of the dingo taking Azaria years later.
Another strong memory of this trip came when boarding a plane at Alice Springs airport. In those days, there was no phone communication in the outback. We were out there for over a week and had no idea what was happening in the outside world.

Sitting down in the aircraft, I asked the chap next to me what’s been happening in the news. I remember his reply very well… he said “ Nothing much… except a pilot has been taken by a UFO out in Bass Straight”. That immediately got my attention! And to this day, no one knows for sure exactly what happened to Frederick Valentich and his Cessna 182.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:46 pm
by sensesonfire
Searcher wrote:The fascinating and controversial photo taken by Reg Jones in 1932 with a Box Brownie camera has long fueled debate. I recall first seeing it in an episode ‘The Extraordinary”, an Australian produced TV program hosted by Warrick Moss in the early 90’s.
If only we still had the original roll of film containing that negative!! Today’s photographic analysis techniques would soon sort it out… I’ll be surprised if Reg is still with us, but as he obviously knew how important this photograph was, you would like to think his family would have kept the roll of film. That’s if he still had it in the first place…

Only my opinion, but I reckon Reg has captured an image of a Yowie ghost. Just as deceased people sometimes appear in photographs, so too do animals. Of course Reg and his friends would not have seen the immense figure as it was vibrating in a different dimension. However, the photographic emulsion on the film can often pick up these anomalies.

Again, my opinion, but I don’t think the Yowie image is a result of ‘tricks of light’. There are simply too many elements that would need to fall in place to make this happen. The image shown looks like it has been zoomed and cropped to emphasise both the two subjects and the mystery image behind. I think the original frame would have been much wider with the subjects more central.

If old Reg was a bit of a fox and had framed the original shot to the right to allow a double exposure with a model ape (or something) then it is obviously a fraud. However, if you watch and listen intently to his interview, my gut feeling is he is telling the truth.



Don’t you just love a good mystery! (happy)

Hi Searcher,
After having a closer look at that attached image of Reg's I have to admit that I may have some doubts of the authenticity of the photo. It does have a clearer definition than the video and I can see the possibility of a superimposed image of a yowie. The picture of the guys on the log appear clearer than the background image; however it throws up another question, where would Reg have obtained a picture of the yowie? In Reg's favour I don't think Yowies were a high priority in conversation at the dinner table back in 1932 so why would he bother with a fake picture? As you say nothing like a good mystery.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:50 pm
by sensesonfire
Brindabella Ranger wrote:Hi Sensesonfire, just saw this topic. Always interesting reading posts with a religious point of view. Without questioning your opinion, I’ll jot down mine with regards to your topic. I’ll work backwards.

In December last year I got hold of a book called ‘The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America’ written by Richard J Dewhurst who is an Emmy Award-winning writer of the HBO feature documentary Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam. A graduate of NYU with degrees in journalism, film, and television, he has written and edited for the History Channel, the Arts & Entertainment Channel, PBS, Fox Television and Fox Films, ABC News, TNT, Paramount Pictures, and the Miami Herald. With those credentials he’s no hoaxer, but neither an expert in the field of anthropology or ancient history for that matter. But he's done a terrific job of compiling the best reports of ‘giant skeleton’ finds (they are often referred as the Mound Builders) in the US for the last three hundred years. He doesn’t jump to conclusions or exaggerate and makes logical assumptions based on the evidence. His main angle is to throw suspicion on the Smithsonian Institute as to the cover up of the bones that ‘seem to disappear once unearthed’.

Regardless, my interest in the book was that I was seeking a connection between Sasquatch and these giant finds, but alas, there was none to be made. Dewhurst asserts these giants would have averaged between 6.5-10 feet tall (quickly discredits any report of greater height), wore an array of woven clothing, possessed sophisticated jewelry, pottery and most notably wielded copper and brass weapons. It was then found the copper used was connected to a number of ancient copper mines discovered near the Great Lakes. Obviously, these were either another culture of homo sapiens, or considering they kicked around in the America’s in 2000 B.C.E could have been another homo off-shoot (considering their size). If you enjoy the mysteries of human history that throws a spanner in evolution of civilization this book is great, but the evidence can’t be connected to the Sasquatch in anyway.

Regardless, the detailed reports on the skeletons and most notably the legends of the Native Americans suggests these giants were of ‘a giant fair race, some with flaming red hair’ and originally appeared from the east. If I’m to make an educated guess, that’s a description of a Caucasian of some sort. Since we can be confident Caucasians originated in Europe it would be logical these ‘giants’ came to America via the Atlantic (i.e the east), yes, more than thousand years before Columbus.

Forgetting the Columbus thing for a moment (should have been re-written years ago anyway) and assuming these giants originated in Europe, a coincidence can be drawn that they existed around the time the Bible speaks of the Nephilim. Could have long-disappeared cultures and peoples of ancient times reached giant size (between 6.5 and 10 feet)? I believe they could have. If anyone has met a big Tongan or stood next to an NBL team today would immediately say ‘yes’.

I know a bit about the Bible and know many people who live by it. Most of those whom I get along with admit the stories (specifically the Old Testament) shouldn’t be taken too seriously as many are based more on folk lore/myths/tales of the ancient peoples in that area. It can also be clearly admitted the stories are based on the perceptions and experiences of ancient peoples bereft of worldly knowledge we possess today – picture this – a small tribe in a remote Israeli valley area are invaded by a marauding army of wild Northmen (Caucasians) of great size in 2000 B.C.E. Compared to the primitive villagers of small stature, these ‘giants’ are so fierce and powerful they must be fallen angels or demons. Because they were often on male-only raiding parties, they often took the women of the tribe (some may have even had a go at a sheep/goat or two when desperate) raped them and bore children of mixed blood who also grew to a large size and possessed a wild personality.

I think the Old Testament is full of good stories and holds an interesting place in that misty area of history vs. myth of our human history, but tying it to our hairy friends whether it be the Yowie, Almas, Yeti, Sasquatch or Orang Pendek, I think the stretch is too great.

Again, just my opinion.

Hi Brindabella Ranger,

I agree with you I wouldn't connect Sasquatch directly with the ''giants'' and lets face it that's what they were but I would connect the Nephilim with Sasquath/Yowie etc based on a page from The Book Of Giants from the Dead Sea Scrolls and I will produce the document very soon. I was connecting the Nephilim and the Rephaim with the unearthed giant skeletons over many decades. The Book Of Giants recovered from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the King Gilgamesh as one of the mighty antideluvian Nephilim giants who ruled before the flood. Gilgamesh was the historical ruler and builder of the city Uruk nearly 5,000 years ago. He was said to have been one third man and two thirds God. Hittite sources place his height at 11 cubits or 16-18 feet. the bible records the dimensions of the Nephilim King Og of Bashan, of the tribe of God kings called the Rephaim who ruled over the Amorites in Canaan. Deut.3:11 gives us his size.''For only Og King of Bashan was left of the Rephaim. Behold, his bedstead was an iron bedstead........nine cubits was its length and 4 cubits was its breadth''.
This indicates the Nephilim King Og was about 14 foot tall and 6 foot wide. These are the giants that made the Hebrews look like grasshoppers.
They were worshipped as Gods by the Canaanites. At the ancient 1200 BC Amorite temple of Ain Dara in Syria ,several huge 3 foot long footprints are clearly visible in the court yard leading into the sanctuary of the temple. The giant or God who is credited to them must have been 18-20 foot tall.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:57 pm
by Searcher
G’day sensesonfire.

You make some fair points. How would Reg have obtained an image to superimpose that so precisely matches many of the descriptions we hear about today on this website’s Audio Files?

If the image could be of a slightly misty Yowie ghost, then you would expect the men in the foreground to be of sharper focus.

Unfortunately, this is a mystery I don’t think will be solved anytime soon!

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:11 pm
by sensesonfire
sensesonfire wrote:
Brindabella Ranger wrote:Hi Sensesonfire, just saw this topic. Always interesting reading posts with a religious point of view. Without questioning your opinion, I’ll jot down mine with regards to your topic. I’ll work backwards.

In December last year I got hold of a book called ‘The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America’ written by Richard J Dewhurst who is an Emmy Award-winning writer of the HBO feature documentary Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam. A graduate of NYU with degrees in journalism, film, and television, he has written and edited for the History Channel, the Arts & Entertainment Channel, PBS, Fox Television and Fox Films, ABC News, TNT, Paramount Pictures, and the Miami Herald. With those credentials he’s no hoaxer, but neither an expert in the field of anthropology or ancient history for that matter. But he's done a terrific job of compiling the best reports of ‘giant skeleton’ finds (they are often referred as the Mound Builders) in the US for the last three hundred years. He doesn’t jump to conclusions or exaggerate and makes logical assumptions based on the evidence. His main angle is to throw suspicion on the Smithsonian Institute as to the cover up of the bones that ‘seem to disappear once unearthed’.

Regardless, my interest in the book was that I was seeking a connection between Sasquatch and these giant finds, but alas, there was none to be made. Dewhurst asserts these giants would have averaged between 6.5-10 feet tall (quickly discredits any report of greater height), wore an array of woven clothing, possessed sophisticated jewelry, pottery and most notably wielded copper and brass weapons. It was then found the copper used was connected to a number of ancient copper mines discovered near the Great Lakes. Obviously, these were either another culture of homo sapiens, or considering they kicked around in the America’s in 2000 B.C.E could have been another homo off-shoot (considering their size). If you enjoy the mysteries of human history that throws a spanner in evolution of civilization this book is great, but the evidence can’t be connected to the Sasquatch in anyway.

Regardless, the detailed reports on the skeletons and most notably the legends of the Native Americans suggests these giants were of ‘a giant fair race, some with flaming red hair’ and originally appeared from the east. If I’m to make an educated guess, that’s a description of a Caucasian of some sort. Since we can be confident Caucasians originated in Europe it would be logical these ‘giants’ came to America via the Atlantic (i.e the east), yes, more than thousand years before Columbus.

Forgetting the Columbus thing for a moment (should have been re-written years ago anyway) and assuming these giants originated in Europe, a coincidence can be drawn that they existed around the time the Bible speaks of the Nephilim. Could have long-disappeared cultures and peoples of ancient times reached giant size (between 6.5 and 10 feet)? I believe they could have. If anyone has met a big Tongan or stood next to an NBL team today would immediately say ‘yes’.

I know a bit about the Bible and know many people who live by it. Most of those whom I get along with admit the stories (specifically the Old Testament) shouldn’t be taken too seriously as many are based more on folk lore/myths/tales of the ancient peoples in that area. It can also be clearly admitted the stories are based on the perceptions and experiences of ancient peoples bereft of worldly knowledge we possess today – picture this – a small tribe in a remote Israeli valley area are invaded by a marauding army of wild Northmen (Caucasians) of great size in 2000 B.C.E. Compared to the primitive villagers of small stature, these ‘giants’ are so fierce and powerful they must be fallen angels or demons. Because they were often on male-only raiding parties, they often took the women of the tribe (some may have even had a go at a sheep/goat or two when desperate) raped them and bore children of mixed blood who also grew to a large size and possessed a wild personality.

I think the Old Testament is full of good stories and holds an interesting place in that misty area of history vs. myth of our human history, but tying it to our hairy friends whether it be the Yowie, Almas, Yeti, Sasquatch or Orang Pendek, I think the stretch is too great.

Again, just my opinion.

Hi Brindabella Ranger,

I agree with you, I am not connecting Sasquatch directly with the Giants but I would connect the Nephilim with Sasquath/Yowie etc based on a page from The Dead Sea Scrolls: Book of Giants. I will refer to this book further on. I was connecting the Nephilim and the Rephaim with the unearthed giant skeletons over many decades. The Book Of Giants recovered from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the King Gilgamesh as one of the mighty antediluvian Nephilim giants who ruled before the flood. Gilgamesh was the historical ruler and builder of the city Uruk nearly 5,000 years ago. He was said to have been one third man and two thirds God. Hittite sources place his height at 11 cubits or 16-18 feet. the bible records the dimensions of the Nephilim King Og of Bashan, of the tribe of God kings called the Rephaim who ruled over the Amorites in Canaan. Deut.3:11 gives us his size.''For only Og King of Bashan was left of the Rephaim. Behold, his bedstead was an iron bedstead........nine cubits was its length and 4 cubits was its breadth''.
This indicates the Nephilim King Og was about 14 foot tall and 6 foot wide. These are the giants that made the Hebrews look like grasshoppers.
They were worshipped as Gods by the Canaanites. At the ancient 1200 BC Amorite temple of Ain Dara in Syria ,several huge 3 foot long footprints are clearly visible in the court yard leading into the sanctuary of the temple. The giant or God who is credited to them must have been 18-20 foot tall.

The Nephilim connection with Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti etc is in reference to a section from The Book Of Giants taken from The Dead Sea Scrolls. Some of the scrolls were in poor condition, but many of the words were able to be translated. below is an excerpt .

The Book of Giants.
The two hundred angels choose animals to which to perform unnatural acts,including presumably humans.
1Q23 Frag 1+6 [...two hundred]
2donkeys, two hundred asses, two hundred...rams of the] 3 flock, two hundred goats,
two hundred[... beast of the ] 4 field from every animal, from every [ bird...] 5[...]
for miscegenation [...]
The outcome of the demonic corruption was violence, perversion, and a brood of monstrous beings. Compare Genesis 6:4
4Q351 Frag 2 [...] they defiled [...] 2 [...they begot ] giants and monsters [...]
3[...] they begot,and, behold, all [ the earth was corrupted...]

I do not see it difficult to believe that there are creatures wandering the Earth today as a direct result of the above corruption.
I have been watching the TV series called Monsters and Mysteries in America and although I am some what suspicious of re-enacted TV shows I am interested in the hundreds of people that have observed these monsters. Many of these creatures have a half human appearance hence the miscegenation. Bigfoot also has a half human half ape identity. There are far too many reports to dismiss of these creatures and many have archival documentation in the town libraries.
I'm inclined to think that these beings also have connections to the above mentioned.

There is one Biblical question that has to be asked and that is if the Nephilim Giants and all that were living both human and animal were destroyed in the Great Flood how did this defilement manage to reappear? and I believe that may have come about through the wives of Noah's sons Shem, Ham and Japheth. I believe they may have been the carriers of corrupted genes. We must also remember that Noahs family were not all obedient and true to God Ham was a hater of God and totally disobedient.
Finally, Jesus himself said "As it was in the days of Noah," so will it be in the end-time.

This is just my beliefs and I do realise that if people have no religious connections then this explanation will be dismissed. I am, however open to all interpretation particularly from the scientific researchers but until that happens I am leaning to the above.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:40 pm
by Brindabella Ranger
Hi Sensesonfire,

Nice research. I can see you're passionate about the ties with the biblical accounts to the mysterious hominids that roam the world. Your passion is based on your faith, and as such I won't question it further. There are certainly multitudes of theories as to the origins of the hominids and perhaps, even when we may one day examine a live or dead individual, that answer may forever remain elusive.

Interesting to debate it regardless.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:01 am
by Dion
Some of you may find this interesting, article from http://ronmorehead.com/quantum-bigfoot-theory/
Quantum Bigfoot Theory
Posted by Ron Morehead on Sunday, October 19, 2014

quantum bigfoot theory

Are you in the ‘Ape Camp’? Do you think that Bigfoot is probably just another ape that needs discovering? You may want to consider this article and re-evaluate that thought…especially if you’re getting frustrated in the age-old way of searching for Bigfoot and it’s not getting you anywhere.

Researchers knock on trees, sound-blast screams and yells, or whoop all over the hillside trying to get the attention of a Bigfoot. Professional trackers experience track-ways left by these creatures that abruptly end, highly trained dogs will not pick up the scent, or if they do they usually don’t come back. If what you’re doing doesn’t get the results you want, change what you’re doing…it’s that simple. Folks who claim to be researchers discount those surreal accounts that don’t fall into their preset paradigm. Is it time to reach beyond Newtonian rules of classical mechanics, and delve into a science that was established almost 100 years ago by Einstein, Born, Heisenberg and Schrödinger? The world has become dependent on this hidden micro-world science, yet its properties are not thoroughly understood…if you can’t see it, it aint there…right? Wrong. We use cell phones, microwave ovens, computers, etc…all of which are brought to us through quantum mechanics. Quantum physics is a subset of quantum mechanics.

Professional researchers have found evidence of quantum coherence in living organisms. It has been found in our sense of smell, in the parts of bird’s brains responsible for navigation and in plant photosynthesis. However, the world of quantum physics has been locked in mathematics. It’s accepted worldwide by physicists. We don’t see it, but it’s ever present in our lives. We get that feeling that something is wrong, the phone rings and Aunt Marybell Sue was in a car wreck. You have a déjà vu …this has happened before. Without knowing it, could psychics actually be relating to folks from a quantum level?

Some of us researchers are in the dark ages of science. I think it’s time to move forward and consider what it is that gives Bigfoot his unusual abilities. Is there a race of giants that have inherited the ability to move into the macro-world with quantum physics? In the past, while interviewing purported Bigfoot accounts I’ve discarded those that say they saw the creature disappear. Many have told me that unusual lights, orbs or UFO’s, are present when they witnessed a Bigfoot. Advanced technology might seem paranormal to many, but it has previously been on earth as can be readily seen all over South America.

What’s considered paranormal today, with knowledge, will become normal tomorrow. So, if you choose to follow this line of thought, how do we change our methods of research into the Bigfoot phenomenon?

Number One; if you think you might be able to claim the 10 million dollar reward by the use of your high powered gun, put it away…if these creatures are what I’m alluding to that won’t work.

Number Two: You don’t have to be a physicist to understand enough about quantum physics to realize it could very well be our answer to the understanding of how Bigfoot might operate.

Number Three: These entities will make contact with you on their terms and in their time…unless, of course, you’re lucky like Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin and get a picture of one (Patterson/Gimlin film, 1967). Set up camp in a remote area where other humans are not likely to be around. Be consistent and predicable. Don’t try to set up traps…their cognizance will outshine you on that level. They are part human. What the other part is might be something to consider, and then think a little on whether or not you really want to make contact with them.

So, should we be afraid…just what could Bigfoot be anyway? The remains of giants have been found on earth before. Most of us know about Greek mythology regarding aliens copulating with human women who then gave birth to a half god-half human, e.g., Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Hercules, and so on. They supposedly had great powers and supernatural abilities. And most of us know of the biblical accounts of the same type of cross-breeding. If we are to believe there is a core of truth to these stories, could Bigfoot be a diluted remnant of these and have inherited some of their quantum abilities.

We all know of the different accounts of the great flood in ancient texts. According to some of these texts it was brought about because of the infection of the human genome (man, God’s special creation) by aliens, e.g. the Nephilim, half alien-half human. That being said let’s move forward to Isaac’’s wife, Rebekah, and the twins she gave birth to. The first boy was Esau, who was red and hairy (Gen 26: 24-26). The second was Jacob, who was loved, but Esau was hated (Romans 9: 13)…why? As the story goes, Esau gave up his birthright to Jacob, eventually moved, and became the patriarch of a race of bearded, red-haired, nomadic people. Because of the ‘red’ they were called the Edomites (Edom meaning red). Recently one of my colleagues pointed out that the Edomites were depicted in Michelangelo’s painting of The Last Judgment, in 1541. At the bottom of the painting you’ll see the hairy Edomites in a cave…hmm, any connection?

Now the big question; can two eggs in a woman’s uterus be fertilized by two different males at the same time? The answer is ‘Yes’. One in 400 sets of fraternal human twins is bipaternal (http://www.babycenter.com). So my theory, which is shared by a few others, is that an alien (Lucifer), trying to corrupt the human genome again, fertilized one of Rebekah’s eggs and Esau was the result. This would have created a human hybrid and Bigfoot just might be a remnant of that.

Bottom line; these creatures (Bigfoot/Sasquatch) have quantum abilities because their ancestral father was alien (nuDNA, Lucifer). Their ancestral mother was human (mtDNA, Rebekah). They are a diluted remnant of alien intervention into God’s creation. Esau took his wives from Canaan…the land of giants. Why would an alien (Lucifer) go through the trouble of, again, trying to infect the human genome, post flood…maybe to prevent an uncontaminated birth of a very special being to be born hundreds of years later?…that very same individual who would keep God’s creation pure and allow us to be what He created us to be (1 Peter 2:9).

There are many theories regarding Bigfoot, this is just one. If the accounts are true regarding UFO’s being sighted around these creatures perhaps aliens are still working the earth, altering the DNA of a great ape…there is a reason…
–Ron Morehead

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:42 pm
by sensesonfire
I must retract a paragraph in my earlier comments regarding the possibility of corrupted Nephilim genes being carried on down through Noah and his family it was a premature statement and was wrong. When God closed the door of the Ark everything was pure and just if this was not the case there would be a huge number of the population carrying corrupted Nephilim genes and DNA and that is not so. In Genesis 6:4 it states The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterwards. An excerpt from CK Quarterman's ''Fallen Angels'' states that'' In the time of the New Testament apparently fallen angels taking women was still of great concern. As we know fallen angels loved women's long hair. This verse shows us that it was still considered possible for a fallen angel to take a human women for his own. If it was possible then,it was possible right after the flood, which was centuries before, and in the future! This prooves there has been more than one incursion and probably more.''

CORINTHIANS 11:10..... For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

I believe the latest incursion is the thousands of reports of UFO sightings and human abductions by so called aliens (Nephilim) these are not aliens from another planet but aliens from another realm. Human abduction by these so called UFO's generally has one goal and that is the cloning of a hybrid alien/human being by coercive sex or by taking samples of ovaries and sperm. In some cases the abductees have been returned and shown a hybrid child obviously theirs. So we basically have another human/ Nephilim clone with a corrupt gene pool and who knows how many of these hybrids have been planted amongst the human population to carry on reproducing. I also suggest that the correlation between aliens/ UFO sightings and increased Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti activity is no coincidence as they are all connected through Nephilim miscegenation.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:26 pm
by Tex
This is a hard argument.
I myself was a church going Christian .
I have had some amazing things happen in my life that I can only put down as an incredible coincidence or God played a big part in them. I won't bore you guys with the details.
But the bible is a struggle for me. It is one of the reasons I find it hard to go to church, the stories in my mind are just too outrageous. Now this is just my thinking, I analyse everything, If I don't see it I can't believe it.
I have the same struggle with yowies. Until I see one I can only assume they exist.
But as for a God too many things have happened in my life too not believe in him. Same as the devil, all you have to do to find him as real is too start to become a Christian and you will have him knocking on your door real quick.

As for evolution there is more evidence in that than a guy swallowed by a whale or a boat big enough to carry all the animals on earth. This is just my opinion and I don't wish to upset anyone else's belief.

I don't have to many problems with the New Testament but the old one is pretty weird.

I think that it's hard for me as it is written by man and the men who wrote it say god told them too. but they say god told them. Hmmm? The whole bible is based on faith, you have to have faith to believe. I don't have enough of that to truly believe, same with yowies I suppose.

I've seen those skeleton photos and I know I can photoshop something like that, I was a graphic designer for 15 years and Photoshop was one of my greatest strengths. So unfortunately seeing a photo of something doesn't cut it either. Like. I said if I see it I will believe it.

Too many bull artists in this world.

Hope I don't upset any one I just threw in my opinion.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:16 am
by sensesonfire
Watch this episode of '' Monsters and Mysteries in America'' dealing with the link between Bigfoot and UFO''s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-4knp ... ...thought provoking.
There are a spate of these type of shows emanating from the US and most of them are pure entertainment. There are however a few genuine ones this being one of them and according to Wikipedia this show appears to have credibility. The extent of the dramatisation may be questionable in some cases, but the subject matter appears to be genuine. Not trying to influence your opinion but keep in mind I do not regard UFO's or Bigfoot as aliens from another planet.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:55 am
by sensesonfire
Tex wrote:This is a hard argument.
I myself was a church going Christian .
I have had some amazing things happen in my life that I can only put down as an incredible coincidence or God played a big part in them. I won't bore you guys with the details.
But the bible is a struggle for me. It is one of the reasons I find it hard to go to church, the stories in my mind are just too outrageous. Now this is just my thinking, I analyse everything, If I don't see it I can't believe it.
I have the same struggle with yowies. Until I see one I can only assume they exist.
But as for a God too many things have happened in my life too not believe in him. Same as the devil, all you have to do to find him as real is too start to become a Christian and you will have him knocking on your door real quick.

As for evolution there is more evidence in that than a guy swallowed by a whale or a boat big enough to carry all the animals on earth. This is just my opinion and I don't wish to upset anyone else's belief.

I don't have to many problems with the New Testament but the old one is pretty weird.

I think that it's hard for me as it is written by man and the men who wrote it say god told them too. but they say god told them. Hmmm? The whole bible is based on faith, you have to have faith to believe. I don't have enough of that to truly believe, same with yowies I suppose.

I've seen those skeleton photos and I know I can photoshop something like that, I was a graphic designer for 15 years and Photoshop was one of my greatest strengths. So unfortunately seeing a photo of something doesn't cut it either. Like. I said if I see it I will believe it.

Too many bull artists in this world.

Hope I don't upset any one I just threw in my opinion.

Hi Tex,
I agree with you on some of the old testament stories being difficult to believe however I accept it on face value as I do not believe God would allow any information in the Bible that is misleading. The New Testament does it for me because it deals with Jesus teachings.

Agree with you too on some of those skeletons being photoshopped but not all and a good example are the two giants in the Gold Museum in Lima, Peru. They are nine and a half foot tall and are the only ones in the world that can be viewed by the general public. You may ask the question why is this so? and in my opinion I believe institutes such as the Smithsonian Institute have prevented any access to these skeletons. I'm agreeing again on too many bull artists in the world and the world today I believe, is based on deceit, deception, perception, lies etc. because basically they do not want you to know the truth.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:52 am
by Searcher
Here’s a response to Tex and sensesonfire, trying not to drift too far off topic. My view is there are probably 100’s of different religions on this planet and each and every one thinks only they are right. It is mostly a blind faith belief system and brainwashing plays a big part. In saying that, I do have a belief in an ultimate creator who allows nature to control the workings of the entire universe.

As we all know, the earth and all its inhabitants are a speck of dust in an infinitely vast cosmos. There is no doubt to me our universe is teeming with life. And intelligent life has been visiting this 4.5 billion year old planet for eons.

Now, fast forward to when Jimmy Carter was elected President. UFO buffs will know he was subsequently briefed on the ET/UFO situation (as new Presidents are) and was later found sobbing with his head on his desk. He was told religion as we know it is man made. Check it out with Google.

Could this be one of the main reasons why governments refuse to acknowledge the existence of ET despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Revealing a universal truth would probably decimate the religions of the world. From what I can gather, the alien visitors whose societies are many thousands or even a million years more advanced, do not worship a God the way we do. They believe the universe is God.

Make no mistake… all this stuff is heavy enough to do your head in! Yowies are a piece of cake by comparison!

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:53 pm
by sensesonfire
Searcher wrote:Here’s a response to Tex and sensesonfire, trying not to drift too far off topic. My view is there are probably 100’s of different religions on this planet and each and every one thinks only they are right. It is mostly a blind faith belief system and brainwashing plays a big part. In saying that, I do have a belief in an ultimate creator who allows nature to control the workings of the entire universe.

As we all know, the earth and all its inhabitants are a speck of dust in an infinitely vast cosmos. There is no doubt to me our universe is teeming with life. And intelligent life has been visiting this 4.5 billion year old planet for eons.

Now, fast forward to when Jimmy Carter was elected President. UFO buffs will know he was subsequently briefed on the ET/UFO situation (as new Presidents are) and was later found sobbing with his head on his desk. He was told religion as we know it is man made. Check it out with Google.

Could this be one of the main reasons why governments refuse to acknowledge the existence of ET despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Revealing a universal truth would probably decimate the religions of the world. From what I can gather, the alien visitors whose societies are many thousands or even a million years more advanced, do not worship a God the way we do. They believe the universe is God.

Make no mistake… all this stuff is heavy enough to do your head in! Yowies are a piece of cake by comparison!

Hi Searcher
Respect your view but have to disagree with just about every aspect of your opinion. Can't see how a hairy ape like hominid that smells, makes spine chilling bellowing sounds, hunts like a neanderthal and on face value is inferior to man on just about every level can be regarded as a superior life form unless they have supernatural abilities which I believe they have.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:03 pm
by Searcher
G’day Sensesonfire. Respect your views too and your right to express them, but your reply made absolutely no sense at all!

It suggests I said a Yowie was regarded as a superior life form. Didn’t say anything at all like that…suggest you read a little more closely!

Then again, you did say in a previous post “keep in mind I do not regard UFO's or Bigfoot as aliens from another planet.”
So where on earth do you think UFOs come from and do you believe there is no alien life on any of the myriad of other planets out there in this galaxy and billions of others?

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:23 am
by sensesonfire
Searcher wrote:G’day Sensesonfire. Respect your views too and your right to express them, but your reply made absolutely no sense at all!

It suggests I said a Yowie was regarded as a superior life form. Didn’t say anything at all like that…suggest you read a little more closely!

Then again, you did say in a previous post “keep in mind I do not regard UFO's or Bigfoot as aliens from another planet.”
So where on earth do you think UFOs come from and do you believe there is no alien life on any of the myriad of other planets out there in this galaxy and billions of others?

Hi Searcher,
Don't know how many previous posts you have read but my views are coming from a religious theory backed up by research. I'll refer you to

a couple below

Number 1.
.The Book of Giants.
The two hundred angels choose animals to which to perform unnatural acts,including presumably humans.
1Q23 Frag 1+6 [...two hundred]
2donkeys, two hundred asses, two hundred...rams of the] 3 flock, two hundred goats,
two hundred[... beast of the ] 4 field from every animal, from every [ bird...] 5[...]
for miscegenation [...]
The outcome of the demonic corruption was violence, perversion, and a brood of monstrous beings. Compare Genesis 6:4
4Q351 Frag 2 [...] they defiled [...] 2 [...they begot ] giants and monsters [...]
3[...] they begot,and, behold, all [ the earth was corrupted...]

I do not see it difficult to believe that there are creatures wandering the Earth today as a direct result of the above corruption. ( here I'm referring to Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti and others.

Number2.
I believe the latest incursion is the thousands of reports of UFO sightings and human abductions by so called aliens (Nephilim) these are not aliens from another planet but aliens from another realm. Human abduction by these so called UFO's generally has one goal and that is the cloning of a hybrid alien/human being by coercive sex or by taking samples of ovaries and sperm. In some cases the abductees have been returned and shown a hybrid child obviously theirs. So we basically have another human/ Nephilim clone with a corrupt gene pool and who knows how many of these hybrids have been planted amongst the human population to carry on reproducing. I also suggest that the correlation between aliens/ UFO sightings and increased Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti activity is no coincidence as they are all connected through Nephilim miscegenation.

If you had read these two sections you would realise exactly where I think aliens and UFO's come from definitely not from another planet. When I refer to incursion I'm relating to the latest corruption of Nephilim activity.
As for life forms (intelligent) on other planets I can't answer that although my personal opinion is probably not if the planets in our solar system are anything to go by.

Re: Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:09 pm
by themanfromglad
Here is a fresh video that contains a closeup Flir image of one or two Sasquatch (black is hot) and a male Sasquatch howl, and a man made tune fabricated from individual but authentic Sasquatch making sounds of an elk, but does it by hitting every note in an octave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7pXVJsLoNo