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Oh yeah TMFG

PS just meet Didgemaster. haha

Invisible??????...................... Sure Yoda.

wellymon wrote:Sorry TMFG but just chill out a little there champ!

Yowies are not invisible for a start, IE if you are so switched on to your senses, as you've said in the last posts? why has such a huge creature like the YOWIE tapped you on the shoulder? UUUmmmm.....

I'm beginning to get the picture here pretty quick, You seem to know everything and explain everything as if you're Yoda?
Hello .

You are not Yoda for a start, you keep saying pretty unrealistic affirmations, that many of the other forum members here on this site do not understand or believe at all?

Sorry mate, but you dragged your beliefs from the other forum into this one, when you were told to chill out by the president? of this site.

Cheers

Welly

Herd mentality in Australia? Tell me it isn't so mate!

First of all, this is the CONTROVERSIAL CONJECTURE AND DEBATE FORUM, not the sugar coat everything, don't say anything that upsets anyone, and live in denial forum. Therefore, insults, mind games and name calling are off limits.

First non-debater, FM80, demands proof of invisibility which is a bit of a textbook mind game, that is often used by paid scoftics. Since proof generally involves video w/ audio, how do you prove invisibility when the definition of invisibility is that it cannot be photographed? FM80 thinks that he has backed me into a corner and already won the argument on invisibility. The answer is that you can only prove invisibility with video, in a laboratory situation in which a subject becomes invisible while contained in a high security holding cell. Which has been done. In the wild, you have to A) be there in person, B) have someone there with more experience than yourself to explain things to you, C) have a Bigfoot or Yowie be close enough to cause sounds that are normally attributed from them, but you clearly cannot see a Bigfoot or Yowie at that location, and D) have 100x the observations skills than some untrained yahoo who just came in off the streets and decided to go on a camping trip to see a Yowie.
Since apparently, Australia has only a few persons with the experience to explain it to them, then it is unlikely that they will ever be compelled to believe in invisibility. The herd mentality will also always be working to silence the truth.

Second non-debater in the debater section, Rastus, comes back to make a cheeky remark that really is not a serious solution at all to proving invisibility in any situation that I am aware. Please provide intelligent postings only.

Third non-debater, wellymon, being apparently invigorated by FM80 and Rastus's postings, then goes into the name calling mode in order to seeminly win the argument. Nice! Except, name calling is not suitable scientific behavior in the CONTROVERSIAL CONJECTURE AND DEBATE SECTION, by definition. Name calling is not debating. Attack the argument with facts, not the argrumenter with whatever your inner child can come up with.

One thing that really stands out on all of the AYR forums, the posters appear to seriously resent persons with more experience than themselves, actually sharing that experience. Perhaps it's an ego thing. Which is ironic since the primary purpose of this forum in particular, is to SHARE AND DISCUSS THAT EXPERIENCE IN ORDER TO LEARN. In the States, we have a one word description for that breakdown in intended purpose. DYSFUNCTIONAL!

This section of our Forum is here for any fringe subject matter and personal views to be discussed openly.

It is not a license to be rude, condescending or disrespectful.


DMH

Good to see that you have sorted the Fly Poo from the Pepper.

Welcome to the forum welly good stuff. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, this is the CONTROVERSIAL CONJECTURE AND DEBATE FORUM, not the sugar coat everything, don't say anything that upsets anyone, and live in denial forum.

Which is exactly why I asked the questions I did. Living in denial? Of what? The far fetched ideas of some random person on the forum?

First non-debater, FM80, demands proof of invisibility which is a bit of a textbook mind game, that is often used by paid scoftics. Since proof generally involves video w/ audio, how do you prove invisibility when the definition of invisibility is that it cannot be photographed?

I haven't 'demanded' anything, and I'm definitely not playing mind games. What kind of reply to your posts were you looking for? You've presented a very detailed theory of invisibility and you discuss it like it's a fact. Then when someone asks you for any evidence to back it up, they somehow become a demanding, mind game playing, 'paid scoftic' who is living in denial. If being all of these things means being someone who doesn't swallow any garbage without question then I'm happily guilty as charged.

FM80 thinks that he has backed me into a corner and already won the argument on invisibility.

There is no argument. Why do people who have these far out ideas always take it as some form of bullying or disrespect when they are questioned about their ideas? It's not like the evidence is right there in front of me and by asking for some proof I'm somehow asking the wrong question or asking a question I know can't be answered. I'm not sitting here with my arms folded denying blatant proof being waved in front of my face.

I just assumed that with all the detail and certainty you have about this invisibility theory you would have some sort of explanation to go along with it, is that asking too much?

The answer is that you can only prove invisibility with video, in a laboratory situation in which a subject becomes invisible while contained in a high security holding cell. Which has been done.

Really? When has this happened?

The herd mentality will also always be working to silence the truth.

This sentence could be rewritten to say "People who think for themselves and apply critical thinking will always be working to uncover the truth".

One thing that really stands out on all of the AYR forums, the posters appear to seriously resent persons with more experience than themselves, actually sharing that experience.

Not true. I won't name any names, but there are many people on this forum who have much more experience than myself that I show no resentment towards. I like to learn from them. Perhaps I could learn from you if you could share some evidence and not get so defensive when asked to do so.

How does this invisibility work?

Are there any other examples of it?

If they are invisible how do you know you are hearing a twig snap on every fourth foot fall, couldn't they just be walking slowly?

[quote="FM80]

Which is exactly why I asked the questions I did. Living in denial? Of what? The far fetched ideas of some random person on the forum? Your phrase that you began with, "Righto", implies in American english, "ya, right", meaning "wrong".


I haven't 'demanded' anything, and I'm definitely not playing mind games. What kind of reply to your posts were you looking for? You've presented a very detailed theory of invisibility and you discuss it like it's a fact. Then when someone asks you for any evidence to back it up, they somehow become a demanding, mind game playing, 'paid scoftic' who is living in denial. If being all of these things means being someone who doesn't swallow any garbage without question then I'm happily guilty as charged.

I just explained to you, how to find the evidence for yourself. I also explained that the evidence cannot be manifested in a video that the public can afford to make, given the expense of building a high security holding cell. If you have a precise way that you would like to have evidence presented, then by all means lets hear what it is. But keep in mind the Catch 22 mindgame of demanding video of something that by definition is invisible. Invisible means that it cannot be captured on video, as I am sure that you are well aware.

There is no argument. Why do people who have these far out ideas always take it as some form of bullying or disrespect when they are questioned about their ideas? It's not like the evidence is right there in front of me and by asking for some proof I'm somehow asking the wrong question or asking a question I know can't be answered. I'm not sitting here with my arms folded denying blatant proof being waved in front of my face.

If your implied demand for extraordinary proof, is not a mind game, then it at least qualifies as a poorly thought out and ambiguous request for presumed video proof of a phenomenon that by definition, cannot be captured on video. I have already gone down the road of studying what constitutes proof of invisibility. Personal experience is the only thing that the public can afford. So if you want proof, spend more time by yourself in your forest. And don't forget to listen reeeeal closely. And have a very expensive night vision monocle that you can use to verify that there is no visible object at the location where the sounds are coming from. You can further increase the diameter of your study area, by buying some expensive studio microphones that are hard wired to your camcorder and then to your earphones. Then you will discover that there is an entire world that is alive in your forest, THAT YOU CANNOT SEE.

I just assumed that with all the detail and certainty you have about this invisibility theory you would have some sort of explanation to go along with it, is that asking too much?

Last I heard, there is no widely held understanding of natural invisibility other than can be found in the book "X3 Healing Entities and Aliens" by Adrian Dvir. His book associates invisibility with STRING THEORY. I am sure that you have heard of String Theory.

[quote]The answer is that you can only prove invisibility with video, in a laboratory situation in which a subject becomes invisible while contained in a high security holding cell. Which has been done.[/quote]

Really? When has this happened?

In the United States, during the early 60's. The report is most likely ultra top secret but you are welcome to request a copy from the U.S. Department of Defense. But don't hold your breath for getting one, no matter what country you are a citizen of.

One thing that really stands out on all of the AYR forums, the posters appear to seriously resent persons with more experience than themselves, actually sharing that experience.

Not true. I won't name any names, but there are many people on this forum who have much more experience than myself that I show no resentment towards. I like to learn from them. Perhaps I could learn from you if you could share some evidence and not get so defensive when asked to do so.

There you go again, demanding that I dump some concrete evidence of invisibility in your lap. It is in your lap, but it takes the form of a written description of how to go about being witness to the evidence yourself. You just have to put in the time. If you also do a search, you will also see that other forum members have discussed "invisibility" here before. Ask them.

How does this invisibility work?

See the book "X3" by Adrian Dvir

Are there any other examples of it?

Yep. Space Aliens, UFO's, God, Angels, The Devil, Leprachauns, all kinds of little forest people that your studio microphone will pick up, Reptilians, lizard people, human ghosts, pet ghosts, and on and on.

If they are invisible how do you know you are hearing a twig snap on every fourth foot fall, couldn't they just be walking slowly?[/quote]

There is nothing certain or magical about hearing every fourth foot fall. The point that I was trying to make is that I don't hear every step, after they go into this particular stealth mode. Maybe they suddenly take longer steps and float between steps.

Interesting? discussion going on here....

However , Neal , can you make another thread with your theories as I feel Welly's thread has been derailed enough , by myself also.

Lets have a thread Neal where you can put your ideas forward and they can be discussed further. Bare in mind though that it would be expected that people will ask questions, something I'm sure you will understand is part and parcel of posting on forums. I know you dont much like answering questions, but remember its your ideas being put forward and people would be fool to take them as gospel
without clarifying certain things. You might need to explain your point of view and reasoning a bit better instead of getting angry at people for asking questions or doubting.

cheers

Your phrase that you began with, "Righto", implies in American english, "ya, right", meaning "wrong".

"Righto' kind of means, "ok, enough's enough" in this context.

I also explained that the evidence cannot be manifested in a video that the public can afford to make, given the expense of building a high security holding cell. If you have a precise way that you would like to have evidence presented, then by all means lets hear what it is. But keep in mind the Catch 22 mindgame of demanding video of something that by definition is invisible. Invisible means that it cannot be captured on video, as I am sure that you are well aware.

Never asked for video. I have heaps of video and photos of invisible yowies, they're in all my photos, just can't see them, so I wouldn't ask you for video of something invisible.

If your implied demand for extraordinary proof, is not a mind game, then it at least qualifies as a poorly thought out and ambiguous request for presumed video proof of a phenomenon that by definition, cannot be captured on video.

Again, never demanded. Again, never asked for video.

Poorly thought out? Surely even when they are invisible they must be interacting with matter in a detectable way, obviously asking for video evidence would be a poorly thought out request, but I didn't.

Yep. Space Aliens, UFO's, God, Angels, The Devil, Leprachauns, all kinds of little forest people that your studio microphone will pick up, Reptilians, lizard people, human ghosts, pet ghosts, and on and on.

mate, you're killing me, Leprechauns? This has to be a gee up.

TMFG,
Any chance you could possibly post some of your documented work?
Sound recordings , pics of prints , stick structures etc
You obviously have an outstanding ability to get close to these creatures,
So im guessing you would have collected some equally outstanding proof
Of their existance .

THANKS DIDGE.....

Hi all,
@ Rastus , all good there , Its not derailed here especially by yourself! You do have a good point though, TMFG could make a thread about invisibility? But? We wouldn't be able to see it?

Anyways I'm not that switched onto the whole tech side of this site at the mo, IE quoting things and dragging quotes in to this post?
I will learn slowly.

TMFG said previously about debating and arguments? Why is this, Dean said also above "views to be discussed openly"
in my eyes debating and arguing have a certain place like in politics, Obama or Rudd etc. I myself was not in a debating team at school and find it rude.

Has anyone else smelt the full on sulphur smell before in the bush or around home?
If so, am I on the same plain? As I stated above, Ive never smelt that before in the Australian bush ever, only have experienced that smell in Rotorua NZ, thermal activity?
If so how far does it travel, forget wind etc cause it was a calm night. Are they that smelly or were they that close to our house?
Look forward to some replies.
Cheers
Welly

didgmaster wrote:TMFG,
Any chance you could possibly post some of your documented work?
Sound recordings , pics of prints , stick structures etc
You obviously have an outstanding ability to get close to these creatures,
So im guessing you would have collected some equally outstanding proof
Of their existance .

THANKS DIDGE.....

I do not document work, nor do I keep a website where I share anything because I am not interested in having any sort of public presence. I only collect personal memorabilia. What you see here is the extent of what I share. It wouldn't do any good to present anything anyways, as far as teaching goes. In my last few entries, I shared exactly how to prove invisbility to oneself. $50 US, says that not one single member on this forum, then assembles the equipment I described to prove invisibility, and then goes out into the field and actually tests out what I said. If they did, they would come back here and be going bananas with what they heard.

FM80 wrote:

mate, you're killing me, Leprechauns? This has to be a gee up.

This is the 21st century. Please try and keep up. If you do a little research, I believe that you will find that the entire country of Iceland, is on board with the paranormal existence of invisible people living in another dimension. Leprachauns are simply little invisible people who make their own clothes, and speak English with an Irish accent. They may or may not be able to emit a special sweet flowery fragrance in the forest, that I have smelled on at least 3 occasions, when there was no visible source in the vicinity that had that fragrance. I know of a researcher who has heard them speaking outside her bedroom window in Oregon. If you use a small Olympus sound recorder while walking around in the forest, it sometimes picks up EVP's of childlike giggling, especially if you are doing something to make a fool out of yourself.

[quote]A post Chewy/Dion made many years ago.

Quote:
While I lean to the F&B hypothesis I certainly believe they have a paranormal side to them, which comes first? As has been stated F&B with P or P with F&B? I’m not too sure we will ever know.

Sightings indicate that they are physically present beings; you only need to read reports to know that they are physically seen! They have also been seen to eat, move and interact with physical objects, catch prey, why would something purely Paranormal need to eat and catch prey, they are known to have offspring, forgive me here but to my knowledge the only way to have offspring is through physical interaction.

So what comes next? How do you define something which has never been proven to exist to be purely F&B? or Paranormal for that matter? In my book you can’t, you can only learn from experience and by doing your research.

Well to be a good researcher I believe one does need to look at the paranormal aspects of yowies/sasquatch. I know a lot of it is hard to swallow at times but if you care to look and listen you find these gems of stories pop up time and again.

I find some accounts of stories fascinating; take for example the story of Jerry and Sue O’Connor who had a telepathic connection with a Yowie on 31 of October 2000. While I don’t know these people personally I believe them to be honest and credible witnesses.

Its not the first time this telepathic link has come up, a lot of encounters/eyewitnesses say they (Yowies/sasquatch) knew my every move, it’s like they could read my mind. The strong feeling of being watched is all too common; the nameless dread which comes over people. What animal is able to project these feelings on to a person none that I’m aware of, is it just part of peoples imagination? To think that way you would have to discredit thousands of people.

I have heard stories of Yowies being heard to pass by individuals no more than a couple of metres away in the bush but nothing was seen it was just felt? And heard? As if an invisible force passed them by. The aborigines speak of a spiritual being not all say they are supernatural some say they are pure F&B.

There are also numerus accounts of Sasquatch being shot at only for them to disappear in the blink of an eye or for people to see them vanish for no apparent reason.

Then you have the footsteps which mysteriously disappear as if something just took off in flight or dropped from the sky.

The fact we get 3,4,5 and even 6 toed prints found worldwide suggests something strange is at foot, with no physical body it makes it quite hard for me personally to sit on Just the F&B side of the fence and like I say some of that comes from my own experience.

We have no body to date, no bones just thousands upon thousands of eyewitness reports worldwide. A good indication to the amount of sightings we do get is to download the BFRO’s Google maps sighting data base there you will get an understanding of the amount of sightings that are to be seen. How come we get all these sightings but yet there is no evidence of a body. Where do they go when they die? How come no body has been found? Do they bury there dead? Why has no grave been found?

I believe them to be F&B but with paranormal aspects. The psychic ness and the possible ability to transverse dimensions is a very real one and is something I am still trying to get my head around.

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“The creature conveyed that it resided in the "Black Dimension" but was a benign "being of light". Among other things it informed Sue it was immensely old -essentially immortal"

User formally known as chewy [\quote]

See, all you had to do was use the search button and voila, you already have discussions on invisibility at your fingertips. Invisibility is nothing new to this forum. Resistance is futile!

TMFG,
This study on the invisability by the americans, you say that it is a classifed document,
If thats the case how/where did you come across it ?

Come on man you csnt post just one pic?

TMFG,
Sorry one more question ,
There is a few cases of Yowies actualy being killed by aboriginals
ne report in particular was of a group of aboriginals that came across
A one while walking across a bridge near Tabulum the yowie suposidly
jumped off the bridge to its death , i know quite a few elders from this
Area as i grew up there all have told me this was true ,
So my question is why did it jump instead of dissapearing or transporting itself
To a safer area ?

didgmaster wrote:TMFG,
This study on the invisability by the americans, you say that it is a classifed document,
If thats the case how/where did you come across it ?

Come on man you csnt post just one pic?

I never said that I came across it. I only know of it's existence and it's conclusion.

Pic? Pic of what? I don't have any pictures of a Bigfoot in the form that you are most familiar with, if that is your question. I did post a picture that I captured off of the internet, on one of these other threads.

didgmaster wrote:TMFG,
Sorry one more question ,
There is a few cases of Yowies actualy being killed by aboriginals
ne report in particular was of a group of aboriginals that came across
A one while walking across a bridge near Tabulum the yowie suposidly
jumped off the bridge to its death , i know quite a few elders from this
Area as i grew up there all have told me this was true ,
So my question is why did it jump instead of dissapearing or transporting itself
To a safer area ?

Ordinarily and if the Yowie were in practice, they would essentially vaporize into thin air and fly off, before it hit the bottom of the canyon. It doesn't take much more than a second, as I understand. That Yowie may have been out of practice. You most likely have no way to confirm that a body was every found. If it was, then the persons who confirm the story, should know where that body is buried. Have them show you where it was buried, if there was in fact a body.

didgmaster wrote:TMFG,
Any chance you could possibly post some of your documented work?
Sound recordings , pics of prints , stick structures etc
You obviously have an outstanding ability to get close to these creatures,
So im guessing you would have collected some equally outstanding proof
Of their existance .

THANKS DIDGE.....

I don't think that I have any greater ability to get close to them than anyone else. The difference is only in that I know when they are around based on the suttle sounds that I hear, whereas most people do not have the first clue what to listen for.

Ordinarily and if the Yowie were in practice, they would essentially vaporize into thin air and fly off, before it hit the bottom of the canyon. It doesn't take much more than a second, as I understand. That Yowie may have been out of practice. You most likely have no way to confirm that a body was every found. If it was, then the persons who confirm the story, should know where that body is buried. Have them show you where it was buried, if there was in fact a body.

I know as Dean pointed out that this is an area for fringe ideas and the like and that everyone is entitled to voice their opinions here without ridicule. I agree and accept this, and I know that if it's not to my taste then I can choose not to partake in the discussion. Having said this, I can't help myself.

TMFG, seriously, what are you talking about? The yowie was out of practice? Are you saying the yowie had rusty vaporization skills or hadn't been practicing his 'jump of the bridge and vaporise' escape plan?

You said that asking you for some, any evidence was not well thought out, well what's your thought process here? Your answer is he must have been out of practice. Forget a not badly thought out reply, it sounds like you just made it up.

I've been thinking about your posts and I can't figure out how you came up with this idea. All I keep thinking is that whilst looking for bigfoot, you were having no luck. But whilst thinking about it, you thought "Well I haven't had much luck, haven't seen one....... Why haven't I seen one? Ah! I've got it, they're INVISIBLE!". I'm probably wrong and no doubt you'll correct me, but my personal opinion is that at the very least it's a very lazy explanation.

Imagine if everything was as easy as that.... Having trouble doing something? Well, just make something up, that'll do, they're invisible, jeez you Australians are so slow. Anyway, you can have your Celine Dion parties while people like Rusty persevere with hard, honest work.

This is the 21st century. Please try and keep up. If you do a little research, I believe that you will find that the entire country of Iceland, is on board with the paranormal existence of invisible people living in another dimension. Leprachauns are simply little invisible people who make their own clothes, and speak English with an Irish accent. They may or may not be able to emit a special sweet flowery fragrance in the forest, that I have smelled on at least 3 occasions, when there was no visible source in the vicinity that had that fragrance. I know of a researcher who has heard them speaking outside her bedroom window in Oregon. If you use a small Olympus sound recorder while walking around in the forest, it sometimes picks up EVP's of childlike giggling, especially if you are doing something to make a fool out of yourself

Patronising. Mate, I don't care if the whole world believes in leprechauns!! It doesn't mean leprechauns are real, just means a bunch of people believe in leprechauns!! It's not a trial by numbers, it's not 'the majority wins', look at how many people at one time believed in Thor, did that make him real? No!

And for cryin out loud, Irish accents? I mean it's lucky they make their own clothes otherwise they'd have to invent little invisible people who make the clothes for the leprechauns etc etc.

FM80 wrote:

Ordinarily and if the Yowie were in practice, they would essentially vaporize into thin air and fly off, before it hit the bottom of the canyon. It doesn't take much more than a second, as I understand. That Yowie may have been out of practice. You most likely have no way to confirm that a body was every found. If it was, then the persons who confirm the story, should know where that body is buried. Have them show you where it was buried, if there was in fact a body.

I know as Dean pointed out that this is an area for fringe ideas and the like and that everyone is entitled to voice their opinions here without ridicule. I agree and accept this, and I know that if it's not to my taste then I can choose not to partake in the discussion. Having said this, I can't help myself.

TMFG, seriously, what are you talking about? The yowie was out of practice? Are you saying the yowie had rusty vaporization skills or hadn't been practicing his 'jump of the bridge and vaporise' escape plan?

You said that asking you for some, any evidence was not well thought out, well what's your thought process here? Your answer is he must have been out of practice. Forget a not badly thought out reply, it sounds like you just made it up.

I've been thinking about your posts and I can't figure out how you came up with this idea. All I keep thinking is that whilst looking for bigfoot, you were having no luck. But whilst thinking about it, you thought "Well I haven't had much luck, haven't seen one....... Why haven't I seen one? Ah! I've got it, they're INVISIBLE!". I'm probably wrong and no doubt you'll correct me, but my personal opinion is that at the very least it's a very lazy explanation.

Imagine if everything was as easy as that.... Having trouble doing something? Well, just make something up, that'll do, they're invisible, jeez you Australians are so slow. Anyway, you can have your Celine Dion parties while people like Rusty persevere with hard, honest work.

This is the 21st century. Please try and keep up. If you do a little research, I believe that you will find that the entire country of Iceland, is on board with the paranormal existence of invisible people living in another dimension. Leprachauns are simply little invisible people who make their own clothes, and speak English with an Irish accent. They may or may not be able to emit a special sweet flowery fragrance in the forest, that I have smelled on at least 3 occasions, when there was no visible source in the vicinity that had that fragrance. I know of a researcher who has heard them speaking outside her bedroom window in Oregon. If you use a small Olympus sound recorder while walking around in the forest, it sometimes picks up EVP's of childlike giggling, especially if you are doing something to make a fool out of yourself

Patronising. Mate, I don't care if the whole world believes in leprechauns!! It doesn't mean leprechauns are real, just means a bunch of people believe in leprechauns!! It's not a trial by numbers, it's not 'the majority wins', look at how many people at one time believed in Thor, did that make him real? No!

And for cryin out loud, Irish accents? I mean it's lucky they make their own clothes otherwise they'd have to invent little invisible people who make the clothes for the leprechauns etc etc.

Dear Australian CIA/FBI/NSA Equivalent who no doubt read this board,
As you can see by the above emotional reply by FM80, there is likely a significant portion of your general population that cannot psychologically deal with the real story behind the paranormal Yowie. This mate, should be more able to deal with the paranormal explanation, given his exposure to other researchers ideas. But clearly he isn't. Therefore, you are fully justified in keeping very tight lipped about everything that you do know about the subject matter.
Sincerely,
A Concerned American Citizen

TMFG,
The body was supposidly removed by either the local police
Or some other official people ? I have been told that it was
The police ..
Sorry should have been more specific about the pic , wasnt
Asking for one of a Sasquatch , i just thought that being out
In the bush reguarly you may have some good pics of stick
Structures or similar Sasquatch related material.

THANKS DIDGE....

FM80 wrote:
I know as Dean pointed out that this is an area for fringe ideas and the like and that everyone is entitled to voice their opinions here without ridicule. I agree and accept this, and I know that if it's not to my taste then I can choose not to partake in the discussion. Having said this, I can't help myself.

lol FM I know exactly what you mean ! I have a very hard time believing anything that Neal says in any incarnation, be it TMFG, Drscream, Historian, Silver Eagle, Bigfootmagnet and any other alias he travels under.

BUT I find I cant stop looking at his replies and theories , some are classics , and I even in a way begrudgingly admire his conviction in maintaining the same train of thought ( crazy as it seems) since at least 2006- 2007. Sometime you have to admire his unswerving belief.

You once called me an American NSA or CIA spook Neal, I forget which one... and perhaps I am , but you will probably never know

Umm.

Well, I do know what to say about those comments Rastus. There is only one Wellymon, to be true.

I find people who have alias on forums like this, are obviously not true themselves, thats a shame.

One good way to live your life and that is to be true to oneself first before others.

Anyways it was awesome meeting Didgemaster the other day, he opened my eyes up for various things in the bush to look out for.
Also showed me some great photos and explained some great experiences from his own expeditions. Looking forward when Im back from work to hook up and have a look with the Didge.
Keep it real.
Welly

A great American scientist who has an interest in UFO's, compiled a significant list of rules that he uses to describe the behavior of fraudulent debunkers of that phenomenon.

Stanton Friedman’s 4 rules of Fraudulent Debunkers are:
1. “What the public doesn’t know, I won’t tell them.”
2. “Do not bother me with the facts, because my mind is made up.”
3. “If you can’t attack the data, then attack the messenger, it’s easier”.
4. “Do your research by proclamation, because investigation is too much trouble”.

Now if say this forum was comprised of scientific thinking types, who actually had a real interest in learning something, instead of coming back with personal attacks and insults as RM80 and RASTUS consistently do and somehow get away with it, they should be taking action. That action would be quietly assembling the equipment that I described and making plans for testing out the above described field experiment to prove invisibility to yourself and to whomever else is present.

If that scientific process is quietly underway, I think that we know who is not making plans to verify invisibility, but instead is providing evidence of following Rule #2, "my mind is made up", Rule #3, "attack the messenger", and Rule #4, " Do your research by proclamation, because investigation is too much trouble”.

didgmaster wrote:TMFG,
The body was supposidly removed by either the local police
Or some other official people ? I have been told that it was
The police ..
Sorry should have been more specific about the pic , wasnt
Asking for one of a Sasquatch , i just thought that being out
In the bush reguarly you may have some good pics of stick
Structures or similar Sasquatch related material.

THANKS DIDGE....

I don't collect evidence to prove anything. I have some footprint photos and that's about it. Youtube has a lot of photos of stick structures.
The only person that I know who has a great interest in stick structures, is Robert Kennedy from British Columbia. You can contact him here: http://excoboard.com/BSRG_Discussion_Forum

What stick structures all seem to have in common is not enough sticks to keep out the weather. Therefore, they may be either a sign post, a corner marker, or a barrier to protect a sleeping and invisible Bigfoot from some other animal walking through them while they are counting sheep. For instance, I was told a story by the wife of a bicyclist, who apparently rode through an invisible Bigfoot, while coasting down from a local mountain pass. Apparently there was some kind of exchange of thoughts in that brief moment. Which was also how the scientists continued to study the Bigfoot that got loose inside their building, in the Bigfoot captivity study. They stood in front of the Bigfoot's path, as he walked the halls while invisible.

TMFG ,
Can you see it ?

didgmaster wrote:

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TMFG ,
Can you see it ?

It? Even if you told me was IT is, I think that I would have difficulty in finding IT. I'm just not seeing IT.

themanfromglad wrote:A great American scientist who has an interest in UFO's, compiled a significant list of rules that he uses to describe the behavior of fraudulent debunkers of that phenomenon.

Stanton Friedman’s 4 rules of Fraudulent Debunkers are:
1. “What the public doesn’t know, I won’t tell them.”
2. “Do not bother me with the facts, because my mind is made up.”
3. “If you can’t attack the data, then attack the messenger, it’s easier”.
4. “Do your research by proclamation, because investigation is too much trouble”.

Now if say this forum was comprised of scientific thinking types, who actually had a real interest in learning something, instead of coming back with personal attacks and insults as RM80 and RASTUS consistently do and somehow get away with it, they should be taking action. That action would be quietly assembling the equipment that I described and making plans for testing out the above described field experiment to prove invisibility to yourself and to whomever else is present.

If that scientific process is quietly underway, I think that we know who is not making plans to verify invisibility, but instead is providing evidence of following Rule #2, "my mind is made up", Rule #3, "attack the messenger", and Rule #4, " Do your research by proclamation, because investigation is too much trouble”.

Congratulations, you have succeeded in dragging me down to your level.

You seem to have created a picture where you are the wise one with the ultimate truth being hounded by narrow minded, unbelieving, pitchfork wielding villagers. You have been watching too many movies I think.

I should have stopped taking your bait long ago, but it's never too late I guess. Good bye.

FM80 wrote:

So yeah TMFG I understand what you are saying about having all your sensors closely connected.
Ummmm....

Yeah that's about all I understand too.

On the fly dimension shifts? Invisible forest people?

You are right FM80, what evidence does he have? What evidence do you have? Other than peoples stories that are considered just that, stories. Whole lot of negative coming from your neck of the woods, and I thought a forum was to guage ideas and discuss them as adult views. TMFG has some ideas (some what seem a little outfield) but so what? There have been a couple of cases where the yowie seems to just vanish according to the witness. Do you just pick and choose what people say and ridicule and disregard everything else because you cant see outside the box? A very well known and respected member of this site witnessed a strange occourance of late where the yowie glided at a semingly impossible movement. Some closed minded individuals automatically assumed adrenilen or other effects may have taken place. He saw what he saw and I believe wholeheatedly! Why? Because he told it how it was! Dion has had a few experiences and they are welcomed and incouraged, as are all other people's ideas. Live and Let Live! The whole primate, primate, primate theory which has a lot going for it has so far delivered squat in the scientific world. Be open minded and lets work this out together! Look outside the box on some occasion!
Peace all! Sick of bullying on this site!!!

Perhaps there should be an infraction notice given to members and visitors alike that cannot abide by certain rules due to lack of respect in other peoples opinions in the topic (bullying and condensating remarks)? beside the complete removal from the forum? Or does this only apply to new members that look at all angles?