The Pines, Watagans: Are These Are Yowie Calls?

[Titla]

cont... Do you know about the AYR youtube channel? It's the best resource for yowie witness testimonials. I'd suggest starting from the oldest interview (interview 1) and working in chronological order as the first ones are the better ones https://www.youtube.com/user/YowieSightings/feed

[Titla]

As AL Pitman said you could also try gifting, which is a tactic used by habituators. Non citrus fruit works well, hang it on a bucket high on a tree, although a lot people suggest not using food as there are cases in which they become pissed and even aggro if you stop bringing the food. Some people use packaged food like peanut butter and breads but I don't like this, unhealthy.

Trinkets are a safer bet but less likable than food. Thing with this method though is you still probably won't have a close interaction, although you are more likely to build trust. You'll know they collected your gifts, but that's about as close as you'll probably get. Gifting is a good way of building trust.

[Titla]

Here is a YouTube video about Jerry Cline's frightening encounter after habituation attempts. He had been habituating these particular bigfoot with food, then decided to stop bringing food but still go out there, at which time 2 bigfoot rocked his camper trailer in the middle of the night with him in it until the police got out there.

This video includes snippets of the actual 911 call in which Cline was in absolute hysterics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat8Hv4Cr3U

Here is an uncut version of the 911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18kjHSOAZM

[ripperton]

Titla I think you are going to get a visit from "thehairyone"
He doesnt like people who know too much. (rolls eyes)

[Titla]

Titla I think you are going to get a visit from "thehairyone"
He doesnt like people who know too much. (rolls eyes)

What's with you ripperton, it's one condescending post after another? Damn snowflake's triggered by non-paranormal posts and interpretations.

[Yowie bait]

Perhaps this is naivety, but if they were predatory animals then wouldnt they have outted themselves already due to the fact that they could be baited like other wild predatory animals? Ive always viewed them as highly intelligent and very intuitive to the energy of people and places. Is this accurate or have i painted the picture i want to see and ignored what i dont want?

It creates an interesting issue for me though. If there is a genuine threat then perhaps i want to leave it alone entirely. One of my greatest joys is the freedom of camping and being in nature, I would hate to have the ruined. Ill have to give this real thought.

My campsite is not entirely out of reach from the car anyway though. If i had to leg it, I could get to the car relatively quickly. This is all really interesting. Might go read more witness accounts lol

Yeah you will have second thoughts about camping if you have a bad experience. I doubt you could imagine the sheer terror and feeling of helplessness you get when confronted/ attacked by one of these things.

They are absolutely horrible monsters when they want to be and it doesnt matter how experienced in the bush or how tough you may be as they will do a number on you. Horrible stinking nasty bastards they are and im on their side but just being honest. Horrible emasculating and life changing experience for a full grown man id say.

[bassplyr]

Never heard they don't like citrus. Wonder why that is? If I was a yowie I'd decimate a Grove of blood orange in a single night. They're like candy.

[Yowie bait]

Titla I think you are going to get a visit from "thehairyone"
He doesnt like people who know too much. (rolls eyes)

What's with you ripperton, it's one condescending post after another? Damn snowflake's triggered by non-paranormal posts and interpretations.

Hes not getting "triggered" but referencing a sensible post by forum member " thehairyone". You see the researchers dont like anyone stating "facts" unless you can prove it unless its their own "facts" then its ok.

[Yowie bait]

Thats interesting about the citrus fruit. The only time except for once when i left food high in a tree that fruit wasnt taken was these beautiful navel oranges that were mixed in with bananas apples and other stuff. Something or someone went through the bag and removed everything but the oranges and reclosed the bag. Left a big banana mush smear on there too.

Threw the Whitmans choc peanut bars all over the place too.

[Titla]

Thats interesting about the citrus fruit. The only time except for once when i left food high in a tree that fruit wasnt taken was these beautiful navel oranges that were mixed in with bananas apples and other stuff. Something or someone went through the bag and removed everything but the oranges and reclosed the bag. Left a big banana mush smear on there too.

Threw the Whitmans choc peanut bars all over the place too.

You too! I've heard it at least a dozen times by habituators in relation to citrus been left out, always being rejected, and they don't mind letting you know they don't like it either. In one instance they actually threw the oranges back at the gifters, and chose the only person present that was peaking out to throw it to lol.

I'm not sure why but my theory is they don't know to peel them and can't get past biting into the skin. Or maybe they just don't like citrus. I'm not a primatologist but from what I've seen on film great primates when they eat fruit with inedible peels don't peel them first, they just start munching on the whole thing then work the unedible peel out of their mouths as the inside part goes down. If hairy men eat similarly, it might be a bit much munching on the citrus skins.

[Titla]

Titla I think you are going to get a visit from "thehairyone"
He doesnt like people who know too much. (rolls eyes)

What's with you ripperton, it's one condescending post after another? Damn snowflake's triggered by non-paranormal posts and interpretations.

Hes not getting "triggered" but referencing a sensible post by forum member " thehairyone". You see the researchers dont like anyone stating "facts" unless you can prove it unless its their own "facts" then its ok.

I'm always more than happy to have any "facts" respectfully questioned, corrected or debated, but haughty denunciations they can stick where the sun don't shine

[Yowie bait]

What's with you ripperton, it's one condescending post after another? Damn snowflake's triggered by non-paranormal posts and interpretations.

Hes not getting "triggered" but referencing a sensible post by forum member " thehairyone". You see the researchers dont like anyone stating "facts" unless you can prove it unless its their own "facts" then its ok.

I'm always more than happy to have any "facts" respectfully questioned, corrected or debated, but haughty denunciations they can stick where the sun don't shine

I just remembered the exchange and thought id point it out to maybe prevent a drama or misunderstanding. Yes if youve seen something or know for sure then there should never be an issue. Id say most researchers would prefer to be questioned when presenting evidence or a theory.

[Yowie bait]

Thats interesting about the citrus fruit. The only time except for once when i left food high in a tree that fruit wasnt taken was these beautiful navel oranges that were mixed in with bananas apples and other stuff. Something or someone went through the bag and removed everything but the oranges and reclosed the bag. Left a big banana mush smear on there too.

Threw the Whitmans choc peanut bars all over the place too.

You too! I've heard it at least a dozen times by habituators in relation to citrus been left out, always being rejected, and they don't mind letting you know they don't like it either. In one instance they actually threw the oranges back at the gifters, and chose the only person present that was peaking out to throw it to lol.

I'm not sure why but my theory is they don't know to peel them and can't get past biting into the skin. Or maybe they just don't like citrus. I'm not a primatologist but from what I've seen on film great primates when they eat fruit with inedible peels don't peel them first, they just start munching on the whole thing then work the unedible peel out of their mouths as the inside part goes down. If hairy men eat similarly, it might be a bit much munching on the citrus skins.

Well i cant say for sure if they were definetely yowies taking the food but i am pretty sure since i eventually saw them quite well.

With those oranges it was left early evening and checked the next day. Id been doing it for at least a year at that place but that really freaked me out how the food was all gone except for the oranges, bag closed and hung back up with banana smeared on the handle and no trace of any of the taken fruit. Weird?

Another thing was that whatever was taking it was very fussy. Cheap corn and melon which i wouldve ate myself was sampled and discarded.

Same with the choc nut bars thrown around like a tantrum with one or two unnacounted for. A few people told me that some primates are allergic to peanuts but then i have read how big footers leave them peanut butter so i found it all very confusing.

[Titla]

Thanks for all your help and input yowiebait, you've been nothing but a true gentleman since I've been here. Best of all you love to powwow on the hairy men and are generous with your thoughts and experiences

Recently I saw another habituator in North America having their corn taken, and like with your experience, these bigfoot would also leave what they didn't like.

That amazes me, I would have thought they'd love melon, maybe it's that thing of the skin again. I wonder if the melon were deskinned first if they'd eat it then, but then again I'd have thought they were intelligent enough to smash the melon on the ground to get inside. Maybe it's that your yowies hadn't come across melons in the wild so didn't know what was inside.

Yes I've also seen lots of examples of peanut butter being left, they seem to always go for it. Haven't seen anyone else leaving straight nuts, but if they're anything like me some nuts they'll like and some they won't.

Isn't it funny how they can get emotional about what food is or is not left lol? That's quite human really, animals would take that kind of thing in their stride. Quite the characters. Did you find your gifting efforts led to a development of trust, did they allow you to get closer as a result of the gifting?

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

I reckon just stick to what you have been doing, maybe leave out some treats for them and some tools eg a hammer or even another spear when you turn in for the night.
I’ve heard that they are fascinated with trinkets as well . Keeping the masses amused usually maintains harmony Lol

trinkets. i like that idea. ive got stuffing lying around the house that i could take with me and leave somewhere. i like this better than food as it removes the confusion of which animal ate the food.

I agree in some part to what you say, in my view they quite intelligent and in some part can sense your intentions. However if you listen to the range of testimonials you'll see that just because you are no threat doesn't mean they won't see you as one, or just be testy because they feel testy. They might play intimidation games with you. They are complex and aren't all love and light. As well, even though they know you're not a threat they sometimes still don't want humans in particular territories or disturbing them, just a matter of competition and dominance.

Before you've just been minding your own business so they've been minding theirs, but here you're talking about going in there and disturbing them, drawing them in to you ensuring an interaction. That's a different kettle of fish. Personally if I had a bushcamp hideout that I wanted to keep a safe place I wouldn't use it for that purpose, I'd do it somewhere else.

There is a practice you might know of called "habituation" which is where people work on building their trust. Apparently gorillas take about 8 years of constant effort to become habituated to humans and it seems to be even harder with the hairy men, although not impossible. They are exceptionally paranoid of man. Some hairy men will react more positively to an interaction while others will not, it's not for sure that you'll get grumpy yowies. I was just giving you the negative scenario so you know what could happen.

i have may unknowingly started a habituation campaign already by simply going there so regularly. i would consider going elsewhere to try stuff but truth is, the leg work has been done here. ive established myself as a nonthreat through familiarity and dont think i could duplicate that elsewhere. besides if i have a negative encounter even once, thatd ruin all places anyway, so theres no hiding from that one lol.

i think i might passively place some trinkets in a specific location off the ground and see what happens with them. but leave it there - no knocking or food or similar. as an experiment its seems quite harmless.

nonetheless, i will watch some testimonals and the video you posted a little later tonight and see what i think

[Titla]

That does sound like a sensible plan of action Craig, you want the best of both worlds, to be able to safely abide in the woods while also feeling out any possible interactions. A passive route sounds good.

There's a couple of habituators in Canada that trade stick and plant weavings with them, a lot in the form of humanoid stick figures. The sasquatch leave these weavings for the habituators in obvious locations where they'll find them, like on their car. The same habituators also leave paper and pencil out for them that they allegedly use to leave drawings.

Drawings usually feature humanoids as well as natural objects like trees, the sun, birds... It reminded me of the charcoal drawing you were left.

An odd feature of those drawings is every object is joined by lines. I can't guess as to what that's about. The habituators have shown examples of these drawings and weavings on their channel, which could be a hoax, although they are pretty well regarded and seem genuine enough to me. Can't remember the channel name off the top of my head.

And a funny thing, the stick figures the sasquatch leave always have a long shlong "third leg" attached on them XD

[thehairyone]

No Ripperton , I just don't like things being called facts , with no proof , only one persons say so ( or guesses )
Cheers mate

[thehairyone]

It should also be noted I have never stated anything as fact as I know the difference between facts and possible fiction
Cheers

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

Here is a YouTube video about Jerry Cline's frightening encounter after habituation attempts. He had been habituating these particular bigfoot with food, then decided to stop bringing food but still go out there, at which time 2 bigfoot rocked his camper trailer in the middle of the night with him in it until the police got out there.

This video includes snippets of the actual 911 call in which Cline was in absolute hysterics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat8Hv4Cr3U

Here is an uncut version of the 911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18kjHSOAZM

OK listened to all but the last few minutes of the raw 911 call - wont lie - he sounds completely off his head. Drunk or something. Given that to be somewhat clear in the audio, im not sure how much credit can be given to it. YOu can hear something banging on the trailer, but who knows how far people would go to hoax things. YEh im not entirely sold on this one.

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

That does sound like a sensible plan of action Craig, you want the best of both worlds, to be able to safely abide in the woods while also feeling out any possible interactions. A passive route sounds good.

There's a couple of habituators in Canada that trade stick and plant weavings with them, a lot in the form of humanoid stick figures. The sasquatch leave these weavings for the habituators in obvious locations where they'll find them, like on their car. The same habituators also leave paper and pencil out for them that they allegedly use to leave drawings.

Drawings usually feature humanoids as well as natural objects like trees, the sun, birds... It reminded me of the charcoal drawing you were left.

An odd feature of those drawings is every object is joined by lines. I can't guess as to what that's about. The habituators have shown examples of these drawings and weavings on their channel, which could be a hoax, although they are pretty well regarded and seem genuine enough to me. Can't remember the channel name off the top of my head.

And a funny thing, the stick figures the sasquatch leave always have a long shlong "third leg" attached on them XD

I love all this - I have a beautiful human carving at home which my 2 yr old son thinks is a toy, but he wouldnt miss it - it would be perfect for this. Ill also craft up some humanoid figures from sticks n roots and maybe bring a toy car too. Ill place them in a tree and make sure the tree has my scent on it as a marker for them to find. No-one would go out looking for these, animals would not be interested in them and if someone DID find them, i dont understand why they would do anything more than take a photo and leave them there.

Do you have any links to the bigfoot drawn images? i tried to google with no luck. sounds interesting

[AL Pitman]

In case you get lonely out there do not despair
https://images.app.goo.gl/7kvHYwHsnyDufnZv8

[Tuckeroo]

In case you get lonely out there do not despair
https://images.app.goo.gl/7kvHYwHsnyDufnZv8

Knowing Crumb, he would've been aware of Paty and bigfoot back in the day.
I wonder what he thought about it ?

T.

[Titla]

Here is a YouTube video about Jerry Cline's frightening encounter after habituation attempts. He had been habituating these particular bigfoot with food, then decided to stop bringing food but still go out there, at which time 2 bigfoot rocked his camper trailer in the middle of the night with him in it until the police got out there.

This video includes snippets of the actual 911 call in which Cline was in absolute hysterics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat8Hv4Cr3U

Here is an uncut version of the 911 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18kjHSOAZM

OK listened to all but the last few minutes of the raw 911 call - wont lie - he sounds completely off his head. Drunk or something. Given that to be somewhat clear in the audio, im not sure how much credit can be given to it. YOu can hear something banging on the trailer, but who knows how far people would go to hoax things. YEh im not entirely sold on this one.

I can see how it comes across. You have to listen to his channel (Jerry Cline) to see why he might be whinging like that. Somewhat on the slow simple side but to me doesn't seem to have it in him to be an intentional hoaxer.

Whether he was completely sloshed and creating something like having a nightmare I suppose is a possibility, but I think it's also possible it happened just as he was reporting. In his usual dealings he doesn't seem to have a crazy subconscious paranoia of bigfoot to warrant creating a scenario like that. He loves bigfoots and going out there bigfooting a lot and is seasoned with a lot of field experience. I can't see him subconsciously looking for excuses that would affect his ability to enjoy his number one hobby, and that incident did affect his ability to be able to go out bigfooting in that particular spot. This is also not a regular occurence from Jerry Cline, there's no pattern of him going off like that.

The pushy bigfoot behaviour is also consistent with other reports where people have stopped providing food. If a true accounting, these 2 bigfoot were frustrated at having the food supply stopped lol.

"Sasquatch Ontario". On the following video link you'll find an overview of the habituators including the drawings and weavings. Incredible case this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK0gOhO_F48

[Titla]

In case you get lonely out there do not despair
https://images.app.goo.gl/7kvHYwHsnyDufnZv8

[ripperton]

No Ripperton , I just don't like things being called facts , with no proof , only one persons say so ( or guesses )
Cheers mate

If youre looking for facts and proof, youre in the wrong place. YHF is an "Out There" forum and it has "Way Out There" people in it.
Most of what I say is from personal experience and sheer intuition. Use it as a guideline, take it with a pinch of salt.
You have been persisting for years with a technique that is known NOT to work. Maybe youre not "Out There" enough.
Titla has just come up with 10 times more so called "facts" that basically cant be proven but I take all of it onboard and use it to go on.
Just go with the flow. 8^)

[Titla]

Poor guy, far be for people to relay knowledge from the experiences of other researchers as opposed to facts shared only through personal experience and sheer intuition. Hang on I’ve just got a reading from my own sheer intuition, they’re saying ripperton from YHF is “out there” and he’s further “way out there” than everyone.

Let your fact-only sheer intuition/personal experiences have some warm milk and a big lie down, it’s been working serious overtime and is getting nose bleeds.

[Yowie bait]

Thanks for all your help and input yowiebait, you've been nothing but a true gentleman since I've been here. Best of all you love to powwow on the hairy men and are generous with your thoughts and experiences

Recently I saw another habituator in North America having their corn taken, and like with your experience, these bigfoot would also leave what they didn't like.

That amazes me, I would have thought they'd love melon, maybe it's that thing of the skin again. I wonder if the melon were deskinned first if they'd eat it then, but then again I'd have thought they were intelligent enough to smash the melon on the ground to get inside. Maybe it's that your yowies hadn't come across melons in the wild so didn't know what was inside.

Yes I've also seen lots of examples of peanut butter being left, they seem to always go for it. Haven't seen anyone else leaving straight nuts, but if they're anything like me some nuts they'll like and some they won't.

Isn't it funny how they can get emotional about what food is or is not left lol? That's quite human really, animals would take that kind of thing in their stride. Quite the characters. Did you find your gifting efforts led to a development of trust, did they allow you to get closer as a result of the gifting?

No worries Titla. I had a think about it and im pretty sure the only food that wasnt taken at that place was the oranges and the cheap honey melons and corn. One of the melons was eaten out from the inside but mostly intact.

I have left really nice smelling rock melons, walnuts, red and green apples, sweet corn, bananas, kiwi, mangoes which were all consumed or taken.

Food was most often taken but sometimes eaten there. Bananas peeled and once still on the stalk and peeled.

A few times i left a rock in the tree with food which was replaced by similar rocks. Like i left a piece of Quartz which was replaced by a different piece of quartz. A clean piece of granite replaced by a similar piece that was obvioysly ripoed out of a creek as it was covered in moss and roots. Weird stuff like that.

As for any interaction. The reason i left food at that place was i saw something in there covered in black hair. I saw i think the same thing around 6months later after i was leaving food and looking around there. I dont know if it was a good thing or bad. Just a look at each other.

After awhile it got really weird and i think they/who/whatever wanted me to go but i kept leaving food anyway even though i was being blocked out of there by branches.

I started to feel different about it and a bit creeped out there. A few times i was getting lost and walking in circles back to the track or back to the car. One day i kept coming back to this same dead chicken in a gulley. Stuff like that.

Anyway it all got a bit weird and i was getting obsessed with it so i took back the rocks i took and said goodbye and stopped going there.

A few things i found weird was that if I went and had a look at something like a log that i thought could be a lookout area for them or something like that and took pics and looked around then it would be gone the next time. This happened a few times.

Also in some areas good food will NEVER get taken by anything and goes rotten. If i left fruit in my yard it would be eaten by the morning by possums or birds but in the bush it just sits and goes rotten. Weird!!

[ripperton]

Poor guy, far be for people to relay knowledge from the experiences of other researchers as opposed to facts shared only through personal experience and sheer intuition. Hang on I’ve just got a reading from my own sheer intuition, they’re saying ripperton from YHF is “out there” and he’s further “way out there” than everyone.

Let your fact-only sheer intuition/personal experiences have some warm milk and a big lie down, it’s been working serious overtime and is getting nose bleeds.

WTF, now youve lost me.
That rant was totally irrational.
Im actually saying everybody here is "out there" to some degree.
I'll just call you a wanker till you explain yourself.

[Titla]

Poor guy, far be for people to relay knowledge from the experiences of other researchers as opposed to facts shared only through personal experience and sheer intuition. Hang on I’ve just got a reading from my own sheer intuition, they’re saying ripperton from YHF is “out there” and he’s further “way out there” than everyone.

Let your fact-only sheer intuition/personal experiences have some warm milk and a big lie down, it’s been working serious overtime and is getting nose bleeds.

WTF, now youve lost me.
That rant was totally irrational.
Im actually saying everybody here is "out there" to some degree.
I'll just call you a wanker till you explain yourself.

Is that another reading from your fact-only sheer intuitive bubble-boy? What else are they telling you?

[ripperton]

they are now telling me to report your post.