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Dion wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am Paul a few more questions regarding you video below, why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.

Tell me what sort of Yowie is going to be standing there right in front of you like a branch [cough] just so you can film it in broad daylight? None!

Please explain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GypAi_A13Vw

Explanation of images:


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2.jpg

Dion wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am ..... why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.

Dion wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:01 am Again

Dion wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:06 am ..... why is it that you have deliberately mislead people?

In the video we have a tree branch which you have deliberately put through paint.net and or you colour filters to highlight the tree branch to make it stand out as something different to the tree. You are deliberately manipulating images yet again.

Images 1,2,3 are pictures of branches why have you highlighted part of one of the branches in pictures 4,5,6?

paulmcleod67 wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:09 am PHYSICAL REMAINS, OF THE "YOWIE"
HAVE WE OVERLOOKED PLACES OF BURIAL?
BACKGROUND
The prehistory of Australia is the period between the first human habitation of the Australian continent and the colonization of Australia in 1788 which marks the start of consistent documentation of Australia. This period is estimated to have lasted between 40,000 and 60,000 years. This era is referred as prehistory rather than history because there was no consistent written documentation of human events before 1788.

CLUES IN ORAL TRADITION

YOWIES ARE TRADITIONALY ABORIGINAL GHOSTS.

When a man died his yowie or soul (as distinguished from the dowie or dream spirit, which wandered far afield while the owner slept) haunted the place where he died or was buried. A camp was always immediately shifted after a death, for the dead mans ghost was greatly feared and might work harm on the tribe.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic.) Sat 17 Jan 1931

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

THE DOOLIGAHS

One of the Dooligahs watched the children playing, and as he watched his stomach began to rumble, and his mouth began to water. He made a sign of silence to his companions, and soundlessly crept down to where some children were hiding from their friends. The Dooligah grabbed the children, burying their faces in his long hair so that their screams could not be heard, and ran to his cave where he promptly ate the fattest one, and imprisoned the other two so he could fatten them up for later.
Now, in those days, all Kurrajong trees were hollow, and even during the most severedrought, the Kurrajong always bore plenty of seed high in its branches, and the roots always contained plenty of water. The Kuritjahs met with the Dooligahs and told them of the wonderful Kurrajong tree which provided both food and shelter. The Dooligahs followed the little Kuritjahs to the Kurrajongs, where they greedily ate their fill, and drank the water from the roots and fell asleep deep in the hollow of the trunks.

While the Dooligahs slept the little Kuritjahs sealed up the trunks of the trees, leaving only a narrow crack for the Dooligahs to breathe. Their brothers were now safe, they could have all the food and water they would need, and war would be averted. But the Kuritjahs were still worried. What would happen if a strong wind came and blew the trees down? Or if lightning struck the trees and toppled them over? Or maybe, some day, some foolish man would come along and cut the tree down. The Dooligahs would then be able to escape. And they would be very, very angry.

http://www.phansw.org.au/Rohpo/brachychiton.pdf

MYSERIOUS REMAINS FOUND ENTOOMBED IN TREE STUMPS

THURSDAY 19TH JUNE 1906
MYSTERY OF THE BUSH
BRISBANE
WM Loskow a Bundaberg farmer on Bingera estate , while clearing away a hollow tree which had fallen across the track discovered human remains under a quantity of clay in the trunk.The remains consisted of bones, the arms and legs of which had been broken suggested that the body had been mutilated and then passed into the tree through a hole cut about three feet above the ground and the clay had afterwards been through the hole on the remains in order to prevent putrification attracting attention. Apparently they had been in the tree for many years and would have remained undiscovered but that the wind on Monday blew the tree down. The police are investigating the matter.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

The Beaudesert Times Fri 7 May 1909
Human .Remains in a Hollow Stump.

ROMA.

Tuesday At the polic court , yeslerday afternoon Messrs. Saunders and Taudevin J'sP an inquiry was hold into llid discovery of human remains" near Surat. Constable M Donald stated that on April 28 in consequence of information given he and Mr Briggs of Stratton station, and a man named Brown went to a hollow stump about two miles from the head station. There they found the skill and some bones of a human being, and brought them to Romit.
Dr.Pratt who examined them, stated that they included the skull ribs, two shoulder blades, part of a leg and part of an arm. From appearances the skull was that of an adult aboriginal. The inquiry was adjourned to Surat.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser Sat 24 Nov 1866

HUMAN REMAINS FOUND IN A LOG

Information was brought to the police at Murramburrah on Thursday that the remains of a human body had been found in a tree near Spring Creek, on Galong run.
Mr. T. E. Pearce, Police Magistrate, Young, accompanied by constable Haughey, proceeded to the spot, and found it a hollow box tree, which appeared to have been blown down within the last two years, a skull, under jawbone, some arm, thigh, and other bones. In the stump of the tree more small bones were dismembered,which showed that the remains had been placed in the hollow of the tree before it had been blown down.

There were also some oyster shells, opossum and iguana bones found with the remains, which appeared to indicate that the human remains were those of an aboriginal buried according to the rites of his tribe. Dr. Temple certified that from the low narrow fore part of the skull and the thickness of the frontal bone he was of opinion that it was the skull of an aboriginal .

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... rchLimits=

IMAGES FROM FORGOTTEN ORIGINS BY STEVEN STRONG

http://forgottenorigin.com/three-plus-o ... e-hominids

paulmcleod67 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:42 am A) Mate paint dot net is an IMAGE program it is incompatible with video footage (you might mean Photoshop which I've never used
and don't have.

paulmcleod67 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:42 am A) Did you actually watch the video? Its called "Tree damage in the Thicket at Chuwar"
I will state here that I believe the thing in the tree is possibly a Yowie. However I never state that in the video...anywhere. And
I did that specifically because of advice from this forum concerning making overstated claims.
Also because Youtube have strict rules about click baiting in order to increase traffic for financial gain.
(My video's are non profit anyway)

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.

paulmcleod67 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:47 pm

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.

I wouldn't have the first clue how to use Photoshop anyway mate. I use a small open sourced paint program called Paint dot net
no more advanced than the paint program that comes with every lap top or computer that operates on Windows.
My techniques are no more advanced than any run of the mill selfie adjustments.
Cheers

Rastus wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:56 pm Paul, with the above video and the images you posted from it, if that was a yowie...how the hell could you not see it at that range at the actual time? It literally looks 10 feet in front of you and the camera and in plain view and you only got a second or so of footage??

Man, I want to believe you are onto something because you do appear to put a lot of time into it and you should be commended for that at the very least, but I and many others are having a very hard time being convinced.

My advice ( not that it means anything) is to stop manipulating ,"enhancing" , drawing lines, making comparison shots with apes etc in your photographic evidence and just present the original unaltered version and people will see what they see. Being lead or coerced into seeing something in an image that may not be there is a subtle form of brainwashing that to some is not really legit way to present evidence.

On another note thanks for clarifying your stacking statment. I did not understand you meant you "stacked" the exact same image, I thought you meant stacked multiple seperate images. By the way, programs such as Lightroom, P/Shop and ACDSee Ultimate or any other pro level photoeditors will let you do all those adjustments on a single image without having to edit and stack the same image multiple times.

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

None of these images are acceptable for evidence of anything. Serious researchers should be gathering hairs, taking comparison shots etc etc otherwise your just a glorified bushwalker ( like me!) even if you are encountering the hairys.

Fair enough if youve captured something interesting and feel the need to share it but using photoshopped images is misleading even if its not meant to be.

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

paulmcleod67 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:39 pm

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:24 pm I think this manipulating of images has to be stopped. Whether intentional or not it is misleading. There should be a rule on here that only raw footage is accepted then if manipulation is required to prove a point then fine.

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/earth-sciences/g ... urces/9389

"In raw imagery, the useful data often populates only a small portion of the available range of digital values (commonly 8 bits or 256 levels). Contrast enhancement involves changing the original values so that more of the available range is used, thereby increasing the contrast between targets and their backgrounds."

What you are suggesting amounts to anti science and enforced censorship .All fine if you live in a Totalitarian or Fascist regime.
Cheers

Yowie bait wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:08 pm As someone with an interest in this subject AND one of your subscribers( i find the eyeshine video compilation interesting but not animated enough to be definite of anything) ,what i would like to see is a solid type and remarkable subject that moves from one spot to another or is present in one photo and not the next. That would get my attention and im easy to please.

Not a stationary figure or what could be a tree blowing in the breeze or a rock but a definite figure that moves. I really hope you get that. It could be purple with polka dots for all i care as long as its convincing and the original footage provided.

hillbilly wrote: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:35 am ....A thought on image enhancement.. it is fine when it makes a tree stump into a clearer tree stump, or a celestial body into a clearer image, but when it turns a dead tree stump into a gorilla, its going way too far.

Black wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 amI wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on Paul, check out any of the fifty videos Rusty has produced, for starters.

Black wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 am Jesus, Yowiedan, talk about having your grumpy pants on! Didn't you get any in the early hours of the morning when you decided to plonk your posts up?

Lol, I wouldn't be so quick to put all the blame on Paul, check out any of the fifty videos Rusty has produced, for starters. It's not like this site and forum has rules for posting up research images, is it?