THE HUNTER, THE HOAXER, AND THE BATTLE FOR BIGFOOT

[macquariedave]

G'day Dave,

I haven't seen any debunking articles on the Yellowstone National Park webcam footage. If you have found one, please let's know. It's just a pity we have the usual situation of blurry pictures and questionable interpretation...(sigh!)

Anyway, it seems today's Daily Mail thought the story was worth a run. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -them.html

Been away and have been busy since - I'll re-look when I am more able.

[Searcher]

Here's a not too enthusiastic review when National Geographic reached out to Michel Sartori, a zoologist at the Museum of Zoology in Lausanne, Switzerland to get his thoughts on the Yellowstone footage. Michel is co-author of the 2014 Brian Sykes study. His comments were as expected. It obvious no scientist is going to come out and endorse something on the basic of watching a controversial video.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... s-culture/

[sapere aude]

This review is a little (ie. a lot) more realistic IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ESvwXK41M

[sapere aude]

This blog even shows (claimed) correspondence with park authorities, who confirmed the "bigfoots" were tourists. If that isn't enough, there is correspondence with one of the tourists themselves and even a pic one of them took of the dangerous bison, that surely no sane person would go near .

Have no idea regarding the comments/attitude to "thinker thunker" as I don't follow his work, but they seem a little unnecessary and OTT themselves. Either way, this clearly illustrates the lack of objectivity within bigfoot research in general (though certainly not all of it).

http://bigfootanarchy.blogspot.com.au/2 ... ppens.html

[themanfromglad]

It is almost universally agreed that the subjects are people on either cross country skies or on snow shoes. ThinkerThunker had a series of good reviews, but has recently blew 2 reviews in a row.

[themanfromglad]

I leave for awhile and I come back and see that you gents have sunk into a state of disarray. I thought that you guys had it all figured out, and now I see that many have returned to the 24/7 Flesh & Blood belief. And then I see ground radar, and UV cameras mentioned. I feel like I just stepped into a Twilight Zone episode and the only way to end it, is to log off.

First of all, the Bigfoot have been proven to scientists, to be paranormal by the U.S. Department of Defense, when they held them in captivity and filmed them disappearing and reappearing inside of a holding cell. Forget about reading the official report unless you intend to break into Pentagon vaults. That being said, this does not mean that they cannot be fully in man's dimension and kick man's butt. Please note that sightings are only of Bigfoot while they are visible as F&B entities. There are no recorded sightings of them being invisible, because that is impossible based on the definition of sightings and invisible being contradictory. Nobody reports "hearings". One of the Bigfoot's alternate states is the orb phase, which can sometimes be witnessed and filmed with infrared equipment. Which is at the opposite end of the visible spectrum as UV. So it is possible that when invisible to man's visible spectrum, that IR equipment may capture it, but don't get your hopes up. The orbs exist in another dimension because I tried to pick one up one time, and couldn't because it passed through my fingers. Similarly, when the Bigfoot are invisible and in a sufficiently distant sub-dimension, they can pass right through you, or you through them. Our bullets would have no effect on them in that sub-dimension. From my experience, the best equipment for detecting them, is ultra-sensitive audio equipment. I use equipment that can pick up my breathing within 40 feet, when I cannot even hear myself breathing. However, you will likely still only hear footsteps, howls and branch breaks with this equipment, (along with crickets, birds, creeks and the wind). Because they make that noise while invisible and not in a close enough dimension to man's, that the equipment will pick up their breathing. You might go back and review your footstep recordings where they ran right by the audio equipment, and you will notice that you got no recording of them breathing. I have had them breathing in my face, and it is fairly obvious. I have stated in the past, that sensitive audio equipment is the best way to go. Obviously, that tip was forgotten soon after it was read. As will these tips described above. And then you will all be back to square one and doing the same old unsuccessful stuff. Those who fail to learn by their mistakes, are doomed to repeat them. I have been told that ghost detector equipment that picks up presumably electronic waves, can detect their presence, it just doesn't point to them. Of course, neither does audio equipment. But I have some of the best recordings that were ever recorded, due to my transition to the equipment that I now use.

[Searcher]

manfromglad wrote:

First of all, the Bigfoot have been proven to scientists, to be paranormal by the U.S. Department of Defense, when they held them in captivity and filmed them disappearing and reappearing inside of a holding cell.

Proven...??? Big statement! Can you show me where can I find some more information about this? I can't believe the MFG is the one and only custodian of this incredible and ground breaking secret knowledge outside of the Pentagon...


manfromglad wrote:

It is almost universally agreed that the subjects are people on either cross country skies or on snow shoes. ThinkerThunker had a series of good reviews, but has recently blew 2 reviews in a row.

My thoughts precisely. Methinks the Thinker is trying too hard to generate hits on his website. And we all know enough hits can potentially earn millions of $$$ in advertising revenue. He’s even selling logo emblazoned T-shirts and caps now! Reckon the Thinker better lift his review game before he becomes known as the SinkerSunker.

[themanfromglad]

Of course I am not the only one that knows about the study. But when I mentioned that the report is in Pentagon vaults, that is code for TOP SECRET. But no worries mate. Bigfoot is easily verifiable to be paranormal in the field, or in your case, the Yowie. All you need is a some very powerful night vision equipment and some call blasting equipment with real recordings. The night vision equipment verifies that there is nothing to see from nearby locations where distinct Yowie related sounds are heard. The call blasting equipment is to expedite everything to happen now. It usually takes no more than 15 minutes to get some action with real recordings and a powerful speaker system. So just like in science where theories can be proven by being reproducible, same goes for proving that the Yowie is paranormal. And go by yourself and stay next to your vehicle. The Bigfoot hate crowds, so the same probably applies to the Yowie.

[Searcher]

I take it that this 'Above Top Secret' information is not available anywhere on the net. I asked to be shown, but no answer was given. Wonder why? Just for the record, my mind is always open. However, a few little facts would go a long way. Any on offer?

Seems only the TMFGladstone and a few trusted Pentagon scientists and Intelligence people have access to this amazing knowledge base. So how come you know all about it? Yeah, how come, buddy? I’m sure the gentle forum folk here would love to know.

Or perhaps you could pull the other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.

[themanfromglad]

I take it that this 'Above Top Secret' information is not available anywhere on the net. I asked to be shown, but no answer was given. Wonder why? Just for the record, my mind is always open. However, a few little facts would go a long way. Any on offer?

Seems only the TMFGladstone and a few trusted Pentagon scientists and Intelligence people have access to this amazing knowledge base. So how come you know all about it? Yeah, how come, buddy? I’m sure the gentle forum folk here would love to know.

Or perhaps you could pull the other leg. It plays Jingle Bells.

OKAY. First of all, you don't live in the U.S., so you are not in a position to draw any conclusions at to who knows what. Secondly, when a report is Top Secret, and for some reason it is viewable on the internet, it will promptly disappear from the internet because the same people that control the internet, control their top secret reports. So there is your answer and you don't need to wonder why anymore. There are thousands of people in the city of Livermore California, who will still remember that commotion that was caused when the Lab had the Bigfoot there. I have mentioned this to a number of so-called researchers in the U.S., and not a single one checked it out. So they are not really researchers, even though they claim that they are. I have heard about the study since the 50's, as part of a government study in high school, from college dorm students, from college professors, and from Lawrence Livermore National Lab employees. That is enough confirmation in my book. I really don't care whether it is enough confirmation in your book. I would guess from your sarcasm, that you cannot deal with a paranormal Yowie. That's your problem, not mine. For all the hints, tips and guidance that I give you guys, I have heard of not a single person going out into the field and using any of it. Apparently, memory is the second thing to go, assuming that you don't write it down.

[Searcher]

Well thanks for that TMFG… some information at last! I Googled “Livermore California + Bigfoot in lab” and got 750,000 hits. Thought you said there was no information out there... Paranoia? Anyway, now I’ve got some reading to do. I'll bet others will be doing the same.

You should know the US Government can’t keep secrets for long. Just check out the Disclosure Project. Everyone is blowing the whistle on ET.

And just for the record, I did say my mind was open. And I hope it always will be.

[Searcher]

To lighten things up a bit, thought this 'Bigfoot in Lab' was really funny...

[ChrisV]

Just read that Livermore California + Bigfoot in laB articles and whoah!!! Not sure if my simple mind can process those concepts.
BigFoot walking thru walls and chasing secretaries.....I won't go any further.

Referring to ThinkerThunker....i'd say yes his last review of the Yellowstone Park figures was off the mark but that should not detract from his previous efforts that have been really compelling.