The Christian Vs the Yowie

[Yowie bait]

Pictsies pixies lepricans whatever..

[Lozza62]

Some people are off with the pixies.

[Lozza62]

Interesting debating yowie versus religion considering religion does accept evolution presuming they are a early hominid or maybe thier a cryptid from the bowels of hell....it all comes down to personal belief.

[sensesonfire]

These Faries and pictsies are not to be made light of. I have seen their skeletons on the fairy doco on youtube and they're terrifying. They even have wings and sharp teeth and look like something from the dephs of hell. Id rather have a run in with dogman or bigfoot than those evil little monsters.

You're right Yowie, this guy in Oregon, I think, has a patch of woodland he calls his ''enchanted forest''which he wanders through taking random pics of the bush. He sees the little fairies sitting up in the tree branches staring down at him as he walks through. Goes home to analyse the photos and see all soughts of creatures including two very large Dogman camouflaged against the tree. They obviously intend using those sharp teeth.

[Yowie bait]

These Faries and pictsies are not to be made light of. I have seen their skeletons on the fairy doco on youtube and they're terrifying. They even have wings and sharp teeth and look like something from the dephs of hell. Id rather have a run in with dogman or bigfoot than those evil little monsters.

You're right Yowie, this guy in Oregon, I think, has a patch of woodland he calls his ''enchanted forest''which he wanders through taking random pics of the bush. He sees the little fairies sitting up in the tree branches staring down at him as he walks through. Goes home to analyse the photos and see all soughts of creatures including two very large Dogman camouflaged against the tree. They obviously intend using those sharp teeth.

How creepy would that be. One or two would be a handful let alone a bunch of them!

[gregvalentine]

You're right Yowie, this guy in Oregon, I think, has a patch of woodland he calls his ''enchanted forest''which he wanders through taking random pics of the bush. He sees the little fairies sitting up in the tree branches staring down at him as he walks through. Goes home to analyse the photos and see all soughts of creatures including two very large Dogman camouflaged against the tree. They obviously intend using those sharp teeth.

Sorry for having to say this (well actually, no), but I'm sure he has a propensity for seeing just what he wants to see.

[Wolf]

These Faries and pictsies are not to be made light of. I have seen their skeletons on the fairy doco on youtube and they're terrifying. They even have wings and sharp teeth and look like something from the dephs of hell. Id rather have a run in with dogman or bigfoot than those evil little monsters.

Pictsies???

It's how Terry Pratchett writes it. There are truly excellent artist renditions, I will find one for you and post it.
He writes fiction but funnily very accurate fiction, regarding human behaviour. In one series of his works called The Long Earth he writes of Bigfoots being able to 'step' from one Earth to another... similar to the multidimensional theory.

[Wolf]

Here you go, from his book, The Wee Free Men. He also calls them the Nac Mac Feegle. Apparently a movie is being made...


(Damn, file wouldn't load from my iPad. Sorry)

[Yowie bait]

You're right Yowie, this guy in Oregon, I think, has a patch of woodland he calls his ''enchanted forest''which he wanders through taking random pics of the bush. He sees the little fairies sitting up in the tree branches staring down at him as he walks through. Goes home to analyse the photos and see all soughts of creatures including two very large Dogman camouflaged against the tree. They obviously intend using those sharp teeth.

Sorry for having to say this (well actually, no), but I'm sure he has a propensity for seeing just what he wants to see.

Isnt this the part of the forum where we can discuss faeries, religion, dogman, cloaking, ghost cats etc?

[Yowie bait]

Interesting debating yowie versus religion considering religion does accept evolution presuming they are a early hominid or maybe thier a cryptid from the bowels of hell....it all comes down to personal belief.

Yes its obvious from this thread that christians can think for themselves and out of the box a bit when it comes to this type of thing. The yowie is what it is regardless of our personal beliefs. What we think doesnt change what it is...whatever it is!?

[Wolf]

Pictsies, otherwise known as the Mac Nac Feegle...

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[sensesonfire]

You're right Yowie, this guy in Oregon, I think, has a patch of woodland he calls his ''enchanted forest''which he wanders through taking random pics of the bush. He sees the little fairies sitting up in the tree branches staring down at him as he walks through. Goes home to analyse the photos and see all soughts of creatures including two very large Dogman camouflaged against the tree. They obviously intend using those sharp teeth.

Sorry for having to say this (well actually, no), but I'm sure he has a propensity for seeing just what he wants to see.

I've posted this video some time ago but it's still worth another look. It's about Mark Hawkins from Washington, not Oregon as I stated and his ''enchanted woods''.At 36.14 he mentions him and his wife wandering through the woods and she notices a fairy sitting cross-legged up in the branches of a tree. They have the pic but I would have preferred to see it myself.

As for his propensity to see what he wants to see have a look at the opening of the video and it clearly shows a tall dog-like figure (circled) almost trying to disguise itself as a tree. I noticed, or maybe I'm seeing things, an even larger wolf like figure (uncircled) standing to the right, it's even more defined later in the video. Apparently, there are six types of Dogman and the one to the right is huge. He discovers in his photos a large concrete wall with hieroglyphic type symbols on it which he swears he didn't notice while he was trekking through the bush. I have another name for these woods and it's not enchanted.

[sensesonfire]

Sorry, forgot to add video to my above post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbM-3bEx8

[Yowie bait]

Sorry, forgot to add video to my above post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbM-3bEx8

Those images do like something covered in fur or hair. He says the fairy had feathers!

[sensesonfire]

As this is a religious thread I'm posting these two Psalms from the Bible, Psalm 104:20 I have posted before but Psalm 104: 19-30 is a follow-up.

Psalm 104:20 "You bring darkness, it becomes night, and all the beasts of the forest prowl" prewarns us of the perils that may await even more so Psalm104:19-30 We are to praise and magnify God for the constant succession of day and night. ''And see how those are like to the wild beasts, who wait for the twilight and have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness''. I'm convinced there is more meaning in these two Psalms than what we immediately read. Wild beasts of prey are diurnal and nocturnal so what are these beasts that have fellowship with the darkness? I believe they are Bigfoot and Dogman along with other cryptids.

So to all those descending into the forests at night, be very careful. I believe this has much more relevance to the US where hundreds of people have mysteriously disappeared from National Parks but it does apply to Australia as well.

[sensesonfire]

A correction. Psalm104:19-30 We are to praise and magnify God for the constant succession of day and night. ''And see how those are like to the wild beasts, who wait for the twilight and have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness''.
This was not a direct Psalm but an excerpt to a concise commentary by Bible scholar Mathew Henry as to what these Psalm's actually mean.

[gregvalentine]

A correction.

Yawn...you needn't have bothered.

[ChrisV]

Update - my Christian friend is no longer in contact with me.
maybe it was the conversation - maybe I was too 'fringe' !

There has been some great discussions here considering the original discussion was prompting the for's and againsts.

I was raised as a Christian and have had the benefit of adopting the beliefs into my daily life - ie: Be good to neighbours, respect parents yada yada - but when it comes to reading the Bible or quoting references or psalms Im sorry I can't keep up.
I strongly 'believe' that the Yowie is out there, wandering the bush and is our missing link and our closest relative. He/She/They live in their little families and mean no harm to anyone unless they are threatened or are generally hungry
We have no say if they should or should'nt be here...we share the planet with them...they answer to no one.

[Speck]

Wolf-I read the Pratchett books quite a few years ago-extremely entertaining! I think I missed the last of the series. This may be a bit off topic because I am not steeped in religion (my Dad tried, though) but with so many people thinking the Big Hairy people are connected to Nephilim and those stories were written so long ago is it possible that the Hairy people have changed? What I mean is that human civilization has progressed/evolved since those stories were written, isn't it possible their culture has advanced as well?

I am also wondering how most of these beings who inhabit the world over seem to have a similar protocol they all follow. I mean, Sasquatch seem to live by the same rules no matter where they are distributed-I just don't think that can happen without far reaching communication with each other.

[Yowie bait]

Pastor Baz's posts on the forum are interesting reading and worth checking out. Well worth searching him out on google as well to read about his encounter and thoughts on our hairy freinds.

[Speck]

Yowiebait-Thanks for the suggestion. Very interesting read. It does make me wonder why the paranormal/supernatural aspects are brushed aside. I did start looking into this at the beginning of 2013 because of my events-sure would have been nice to have the 'high strangeness' stuff placed in the forefront instead of hidden away. I've read numerous reports mentioning the odd stuff-it always stood out to me. I really wonder why that aspect is ridiculed when it continues to happen. The 'monkey' crowd probably won't progress much-but the monkey idea does make money. If you want to inform/warn people then it ALL should be laid out.

It does also make me think that if they are part spirit then there would be no barriers for them (none that we know of.) I have read of people calling on Jesus to make the Sasquatch leave-they claim it works.

Such a baffling subject.

[Yowie bait]

Hi Speck. I must admit that when I first started to read about the paranormal stuff, i thought it was rubbish and in fact really infuriated me. I had this full on terifying experience with this oversized hairy beast and i could not believe people were saying they were spiritual and even feeding the damn things!

Ive since changed my tune though and while i do think or even know theyre solid" real" things i still think there is something very odd about them. Ive been told they have these abiities to do all sorts of things which totally contradicts my personal view of what a smelly neanderthal ape man would be like.

Imo you are right to keep an open mind about things. It doesnt matter how intelligent or experienced people may be, they still dont know for sure what these things are.

The paranormal bigfoot thing wont go away though. It doesnt matter what the bigfooters want us to believe ( a cover up inside a cover up?) people will still see weird stuff and report it.

I wonder about their limits as well. Can they survive outside their forests is something i wonder. Maybe there are other creatures the hairy men fraternise with as well. Someone once told me he heard they can remote view through humans . Thats a new one on me but yeah who knows? I know i dont.

As for saying the lords prayer or commanding in jesus name, well i must admit that i was so creeped out by something recently that i did say the lords prayer and it stopped straight away. I am not a practicing christian but i do have a kind of spuritual side and follow the commandments. I would never pray or or ask for anything but i admit i was so scared i copped out and tried it. Lol

[Simon M]

I tend to take the view that every religion is an attempt to explain or understand the divine which is, by definition, beyond normal human experience or comprehension.

I don't think any single religion is entirely correct or incorrect - they're all attempts to understand the inexplicable. All of them exist to provide guidance. Sometimes, religion is misused by fanatics for their own violent ends, but this doesn't make religion itself a bad idea.

Trying to 'prove' that one religion is more correct about something than another is like to trying to 'prove' that one Prime Minister is better than another. It's going to boil down to individual opinions every time, and you'll never get 100% agreement.

We know that these creatures can do stuff we can't currently explain - but attempting to make the facts fit a particular philosophical viewpoint won't work. To do so is to make the same error that many scientists make when they dismiss the existence of Yowies entirely; "This doesn't fit my chosen philosophy, therefore it cannot be correct".

What we're all trying to do - in our own ways - is to come to terms with something which is beyond our current understanding.

[AL Pitman]

I've got your back on this issue ChrisV
I feel those sentiments are just about spot on and very rational ..

[Lozza62]

I think sightings are escalating and more people are actually taking yowie,bigfoot reports more seriously especially since high profile people like Rob Lowe are giving the subject coverage.With the amount of field researchers worldwide studying these creatures I think we are inching closer to answers.Everyone is swapping experiences and we are constantly learning more about them also our technology is improving so IMO we are close to finding answers as to what they are.

[Simon M]

I agree that we're getting closer to being able to openly or publicly discuss things which we cannot explain or quantify easily - people are more 'habituated' to theoretical science these days and several scientists are best selling authors and so on - but I still think most people don't care one way or the other. For those who do care to learn, it's an exciting time. Most people will still just shrug and watch Masterchef or whatever; but that's not the end of the world.

[Lozza62]

I agree that we're getting closer to being able to openly or publicly discuss things which we cannot explain or quantify easily - people are more 'habituated' to theoretical science these days and several scientists are best selling authors and so on - but I still think most people don't care one way or the other. For those who do care to learn, it's an exciting time. Most people will still just shrug and watch Masterchef or whatever; but that's not the end of the world.

Yes Simon you are right most people don't care .....I meant everyone on yowie and bigfoot forums swapping experiences and it's great people are now more open to share than say ten years ago when you were more likely to be ridiculed and branded a nutter.

[Zed]

I hope we are getting closer to the truth, I have a feeling it won't be coming from the camera of "Mark Hawkins" or his enchanted woods.

[sensesonfire]

I hope we are getting closer to the truth, I have a feeling it won't be coming from the camera of "Mark Hawkins" or his enchanted woods.

Hi Zed,
As far as Bigfoot/Yowies are concerned progress towards the truth is going to be ponderous basically because of the indifference or denials by governments, authorities, scientists and probably more than half the human population.

We are, however, forgetting about that other 'elephant in the room' or should I say 'dog in the room'- Dogman. This is one little cryptid people cannot get their head around and don't want to at least here in Australia the US is different.

So I suspect when the truth is revealed it's not going to be what everyone expected.

[ChrisV]

I hope we are getting closer to the truth, I have a feeling it won't be coming from the camera of "Mark Hawkins" or his enchanted woods.

Hi Zed,
As far as Bigfoot/Yowies are concerned progress towards the truth is going to be ponderous basically because of the indifference or denials by governments, authorities, scientists and probably more than half the human population.

We are, however, forgetting about that other 'elephant in the room' or should I say 'dog in the room'- Dogman. This is one little cryptid people cannot get their head around and don't want to at least here in Australia the US is different.

So I suspect when the truth is revealed it's not going to be what everyone expected.

Dogman is going to be a hard pitch to sell unfortunately. Even on open minded forums like this, its hard to get your head around.
And if he does come to reality and is proven, I'm afraid hes in for some serious persecution....