Despite my skepticism, I still feel the ice-cold chill fear when reading about yowie encounters and I have said in another post, at the moment I'm too scared to go bush camping after reading those stories.
That said, I am trying to compare the yowie chill-fear with something equally (or more dangerous), e.g. coming face to face with a lion, snake, hippo.
For example:
- If I suddenly faced a lion I would be scared to death but it would not be the chill-fear, just fear. I could still think, vocalise, move.
- A snake, I would freeze and slowly back away but it's the creepy, crawly fear not chill-fear.
- A hippo, I would be scared like the lion, but there's also a slightly comic aspect to it even though the hippo is probably the most dangerous of the lot.
- A yowie, I think I'd just simply s#i+ myself on the spot and cry like a sook. CHILL fear.
Why is this? Is it simply because the yowie is an unknown. I'd love to hear some responses from those who have done field-work and have had an encounter on how they think they would react to these different encounters.
How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Hi Opus im new to this site so bear with me mate.But i think with the Yowie they are some how sending Infra sound type thouhts to the sorrounds when they know there are Intruders on there Land and they dont want you around. What better way to get rid of the intruders. Non contact agrro with out the worry of being seen. Please anybody out there correct me if i am wrong on this subject.
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Hi Opus,
I think a lot of our reaction would depend on knowledge - this is one way of kidding ourselves that we know the possible outcomes. For example, three of your fearful encounters involve creatures that most people know exist in the concrete world we inhabit. Sure, Lions and Hippos aren't running around Australia, but you could probably assume most people know what they are, and how they attack.
Lion: You're in pretty deep trouble if it starts stalking you. You are probably in trouble if it's hungry, and if there are several of them, you are probably in deep shiat. You have claws and fangs and superior strength potentially coming at you FAST.
Snake: If you see it first, you can probably slowly back off and get out of striking range, removing the immediate danger of being bitten, then leave the area. If you don't see it until it moves almost under your feet, it may be more frightened of you than you are of it, and there's a good chance it will take off with no thoughts of biting you.
Hippo: Run like hell, because they are fast on land, and if you are in the water, you are at a distinct disadvantage. Those big tusklike teeth are the diameter of a 600ml Coke bottle and will put some BIG holes in you if it manages to connect.
Yowie: If it's as strong as it looks, you could be torn limb from limb. If it's as toothy as some reports indicate, it may be able to bite you. If it's night time, Yowie has got superior night vision and you don't, so you are immediately in danger of running into a tree, over a cliff, into a river, breaking yourself somewhat in the process of trying to get away. The problem here is nobody really KNOWS what form a lethal (or near-lethal) physica attack on a human can take, as most likely, you may not live to tell the tale. As no Yowies have been studied by anthropologists, kept in zoos, studied in the wild as far as I am aware, their defense techniques are an unknown quantity, which is what makes them so scary.
If you meet any of the other animals, you have at least some rudimentary idea of how they can defend themselves from evidence collected over many years by animal researchers. With the Yowie, you don't know that a physical attack is the absolute last line of defence/attack - but I bet you HOPE that's the case. From what I've read, they aren't generally liable to just attack you flat out - there is often some warning howls, grunts, thrown sticks or rocks, and the stalking behaviour before they figure you aren't getting the message and try to up the ante by becoming physically aggressive.
It's a case of what you know versus the UNKNOWN, which is the part that scares me the most - I just wouldn't know what to expect.
Shazz
I think a lot of our reaction would depend on knowledge - this is one way of kidding ourselves that we know the possible outcomes. For example, three of your fearful encounters involve creatures that most people know exist in the concrete world we inhabit. Sure, Lions and Hippos aren't running around Australia, but you could probably assume most people know what they are, and how they attack.
Lion: You're in pretty deep trouble if it starts stalking you. You are probably in trouble if it's hungry, and if there are several of them, you are probably in deep shiat. You have claws and fangs and superior strength potentially coming at you FAST.
Snake: If you see it first, you can probably slowly back off and get out of striking range, removing the immediate danger of being bitten, then leave the area. If you don't see it until it moves almost under your feet, it may be more frightened of you than you are of it, and there's a good chance it will take off with no thoughts of biting you.
Hippo: Run like hell, because they are fast on land, and if you are in the water, you are at a distinct disadvantage. Those big tusklike teeth are the diameter of a 600ml Coke bottle and will put some BIG holes in you if it manages to connect.
Yowie: If it's as strong as it looks, you could be torn limb from limb. If it's as toothy as some reports indicate, it may be able to bite you. If it's night time, Yowie has got superior night vision and you don't, so you are immediately in danger of running into a tree, over a cliff, into a river, breaking yourself somewhat in the process of trying to get away. The problem here is nobody really KNOWS what form a lethal (or near-lethal) physica attack on a human can take, as most likely, you may not live to tell the tale. As no Yowies have been studied by anthropologists, kept in zoos, studied in the wild as far as I am aware, their defense techniques are an unknown quantity, which is what makes them so scary.
If you meet any of the other animals, you have at least some rudimentary idea of how they can defend themselves from evidence collected over many years by animal researchers. With the Yowie, you don't know that a physical attack is the absolute last line of defence/attack - but I bet you HOPE that's the case. From what I've read, they aren't generally liable to just attack you flat out - there is often some warning howls, grunts, thrown sticks or rocks, and the stalking behaviour before they figure you aren't getting the message and try to up the ante by becoming physically aggressive.
It's a case of what you know versus the UNKNOWN, which is the part that scares me the most - I just wouldn't know what to expect.
Shazz
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Dr. Carl Sagan
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stickyfingers
Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
...Opus my friend... bloody good question! 
... I think that you summed it all up pretty well when you said...
... and I think that Shazzoir said near exactly the way I see it when she said...
...you never know though... if we do ever manage to communicate with a Yowie... we may find out that they are just big cute cuddly Teddy Bears just hanging out to be cuddled by us all!!!
... their aggressive behaviour may just be all bluff and bluster!!! 
... nah!!!!... just kidding!!!! ... please refer back to your first quote... that's what would really happen with me methinks!!! 
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...and Bush Baby... welcome to the AYR Forums
...have fun and enjoy posting!!! ... cheers... Stickyfingers. 
... I think that you summed it all up pretty well when you said......amen to that my friend- A yowie, I think I'd just simply s#i+ myself on the spot and cry like a sook. CHILL fear.
... and I think that Shazzoir said near exactly the way I see it when she said...It's a case of what you know versus the UNKNOWN, which is the part that scares me the most - I just wouldn't know what to expect.
...you never know though... if we do ever manage to communicate with a Yowie... we may find out that they are just big cute cuddly Teddy Bears just hanging out to be cuddled by us all!!!
... their aggressive behaviour may just be all bluff and bluster!!! ... nah!!!!... just kidding!!!! ... please refer back to your first quote... that's what would really happen with me methinks!!! ... ...and Bush Baby... welcome to the AYR Forums
...have fun and enjoy posting!!! ... cheers... Stickyfingers. -
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
The other night after observing the eyeshine with Mikka, I was on my way back to base with Joe going up the steep rock slope and had the worst chills of my life 
. I suspect we were walking up the hill towards one and i could feel it. As soon as it happened I put my finger on the button of my bright spotlight in case i had a reason to turn it on. This light is so bright that your eyes hurt for half an hour if you look into it for less than a second at distance so i do feel i have a good chance if a yowie advances given their love of nocturnal activities i figure their eyes are very sensitive and i can use that to my advantage. I told Joe about this. I dont know why he didnt feel it but i didnt feel safe without my finger on the button at all.
There was a few walking around that night 70 to 100 meters from the camp. The popping of sticks underfoot was unmistakeable.
I have never had chills in the bush before, apart from when the big hairy guy was walking towards us before it growled at us in one of my experiences. That time I had chills because I heard the footsteps and thought a crazy man was in the rainforest stalking us. At that time before it growled I hadnt thought it could be a Yowie at all.
. I suspect we were walking up the hill towards one and i could feel it. As soon as it happened I put my finger on the button of my bright spotlight in case i had a reason to turn it on. This light is so bright that your eyes hurt for half an hour if you look into it for less than a second at distance so i do feel i have a good chance if a yowie advances given their love of nocturnal activities i figure their eyes are very sensitive and i can use that to my advantage. I told Joe about this. I dont know why he didnt feel it but i didnt feel safe without my finger on the button at all.There was a few walking around that night 70 to 100 meters from the camp. The popping of sticks underfoot was unmistakeable.
I have never had chills in the bush before, apart from when the big hairy guy was walking towards us before it growled at us in one of my experiences. That time I had chills because I heard the footsteps and thought a crazy man was in the rainforest stalking us. At that time before it growled I hadnt thought it could be a Yowie at all.
Let the skeptic move in their smaller world - before I knew I did not have a clue.
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Austin, what a great experience! Did the yowie actually make sounds to you both? And did you reply?
Very interested to hear more, if you are willing to discuss it.
Kind regards,
Shazz
Very interested to hear more, if you are willing to discuss it.
Kind regards,
Shazz
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
...a couple of months ago on the... "AYR- Ghosts Spirits and Orbs" ... section in the "Orb Photo" thread that Thycalina posted... I wrote this regarding some lights that I had seen... this will explain...
...do we... "FEEL" ... it's prescence because of what we already know???... it makes you wonder eh???... anyway... they're the thoughts kicking around in my vaccuous headspace... what do you think???... cheers... Stickyfingers.
...looking back at that and then reading this thread... I'm just wondering how overseas visitors or even recent immigrants would react to an encounter with a Yowie?... after all ... most of us that live here already know about the Yowie and how it can have an effect upon us... what would THEY feel being unaware of the Yowie's existence... (yet to be confirmed of course)... would they "FEEL" it's prescence like we tend to do???......sorry to ask you so many questions but you have my curiosity aroused... especially about the ball of light...
...when my family first emmigrated to Australia in 1966... I was 14 years old... we were at a Hostel for immigrants in Elizabeth in the outskirts of Adelaide... it was a hot night in June and the sun had set and I could just see the last rays of light disappearing behind the skyline... just a few seconds later I noticed skimming across an open field about about 5 or 6 little balls of light whizzing around the field weaving in and out around and over each other for about about a minute...
... they were about the size of tennis balls to me but they were probably close to the size of soccer balls in reality because they were a little distant away from me... they moved around each other as described before until they seemed to just vapourise into nothing... they seemed to me to be white to yellow to I imagine light orange and then light red colour from what I can remember all those years ago... all I could hear was a sound like large insect wings flapping really rapidly... but insects the rough size of soccer balls???... a bit hard to imagine methinks...
...at the time... because I was only 14... because we had only been in Australia for about 2 weeks... because I had absolutely no idea of what existed in Australia regarding wildlife or anything at all... because we believed that everyone in Australia had a pet Kangaroo and Koala in the backyard due to our lack of knowledge of anything to do with Australia... I put it down to ..."one of those things that happens in Australia I suppose" type catagories... I did entertain the thought that they could have been giant flying glow worms or even... (should I say it... Fairies... I can't believe that I just confessed to that ... my friends in England would've beaten me up if I told them that!!!...lol!)...
...I never really thought too much more about it until I came onto the AYR website and then similar websites and read about Orbs and Min Min lights type of articles did I really think of them as perhaps being part of that type of phenomena... hence the reason that I'm interested in the ball of light that you saw... sorry to prattle on Thylacina... as I said... you have my curiosity aroused... cheers... Stickyfingers.
...do we... "FEEL" ... it's prescence because of what we already know???... it makes you wonder eh???... anyway... they're the thoughts kicking around in my vaccuous headspace... what do you think???... cheers... Stickyfingers.
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Marius
Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Too easy. Yowies are Ringwraiths. (Nazgul)
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/RingwraithThey were surrounded by an aura of terror, which affected all living creatures; their breath (called the Black Breath) was poisonous, and their cries caused terror and despair in all who heard them. Some of the Nazgul appear to have been accomplished sorcerers and used magic to devastating effect. According to Tolkien, though, it was the fear they inspired that was the chief danger:
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Marius... please post more. Luv ya work!!! Keep the bastards honest...
To the trolls: I am using the the word 'bastard' in it's Australian vernacular context. Just like the Australian Democrats (who should probably be the result of some cryptozoology research these days as well). I believe I saw a Democrat lurking around the last Federal election but couldn't gather any credible evidence...
To the trolls: I am using the the word 'bastard' in it's Australian vernacular context. Just like the Australian Democrats (who should probably be the result of some cryptozoology research these days as well). I believe I saw a Democrat lurking around the last Federal election but couldn't gather any credible evidence...
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Didn't you collect any scats?Opus wrote: I believe I saw a Democrat lurking around the last Federal election but couldn't gather any credible evidence...
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
lolMarius wrote:Didn't you collect any scats?Opus wrote: I believe I saw a Democrat lurking around the last Federal election but couldn't gather any credible evidence...
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Ha ha ha.......
No, I didn't collect any Democrat scat. I couldn't distinguish it from all of the other bulls#i+ left lying around from the mainstream poli's.
I suspect that a yowie sighting, any yowie sighting, has much more credibility than a politician's promise.
No, I didn't collect any Democrat scat. I couldn't distinguish it from all of the other bulls#i+ left lying around from the mainstream poli's.
I suspect that a yowie sighting, any yowie sighting, has much more credibility than a politician's promise.
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Re: How do people explain the 'fear chill' associated with yowie
Hi All.
I think it's hard to explain the "fear chill" unless you're experienced it (which I haven't).
I've spoken to people who have and the one thing that seems to be consistent is they all have great difficulty in quantifying the "deepness" of the fear, even to themselves. It's almost like a primitive type of panic has been awakened.
I was talking to a guy from Bowral a few weeks ago and when I mentioned "Yowie" he seemed amazed that someone else could relate to what he had experienced. He and a friend were walking one night between a farmhouse and some guest houses (about 500 metres) when they became aware of something behind them.
When I asked him what was following him he corrected me straight away and said "We weren't followed - we were stalked. When we walked, it walked. When we stopped, it stopped". When I asked him to tell me what else happened he physically shuddered, looked at me and said "I don't want to talk about it anymore".
The thing that impresses me about witness accounts is how remarkably similar they are, especially when you hear them first hand from someone you trust and you see the emotions that play through them as they try to relate their experience.
The fear factor seems to be the one thing that most witnesses remember more than anything but it also seems to be the one thing they find hardest to describe.
I think it's hard to explain the "fear chill" unless you're experienced it (which I haven't).
I've spoken to people who have and the one thing that seems to be consistent is they all have great difficulty in quantifying the "deepness" of the fear, even to themselves. It's almost like a primitive type of panic has been awakened.
I was talking to a guy from Bowral a few weeks ago and when I mentioned "Yowie" he seemed amazed that someone else could relate to what he had experienced. He and a friend were walking one night between a farmhouse and some guest houses (about 500 metres) when they became aware of something behind them.
When I asked him what was following him he corrected me straight away and said "We weren't followed - we were stalked. When we walked, it walked. When we stopped, it stopped". When I asked him to tell me what else happened he physically shuddered, looked at me and said "I don't want to talk about it anymore".
The thing that impresses me about witness accounts is how remarkably similar they are, especially when you hear them first hand from someone you trust and you see the emotions that play through them as they try to relate their experience.
The fear factor seems to be the one thing that most witnesses remember more than anything but it also seems to be the one thing they find hardest to describe.
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