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True or False??

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:56 pm
by Lasso
Found this one on youtube.......true or false???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBlqFncDhlQ

Lasso

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:18 pm
by stickyfingers
...I think that what Crazyflea23 said in the comments below the video...
If its triggered by motion sensors, why was the camera active before the motion happened?
...makes complete sense... myself... I believe that it's a fake... but still... pretty cool to look at even so... cheers... Stickyfingers. (cool) (happy) (jest)

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:48 pm
by Tracey
I dont really like to comment on footage because my sister and I have actually witnessed a big heavy door swinging close like that at Quarantine Station hospital in sydney and just before it happened she was on the bed and felt a pressure on top of her. That night I got a photo as I left that hospital of what i believe to be the top of a child and its little fingers on the ledge, looking out the window at me taking the photo. Then a subsequent visit there I got an evp of a child giggling in that room so................

i know that ghosts do close doors like that. Looks just like that.There was no wind, person or anything that could have made that door close like we saw that night.

Also...shadows. Yes they look like that too some of them though many I have seen of shadow ghosts are very inky black.

We have a shadow come across some trigger objects we had set up at Maitland gaol. We put the IR camera on it and then we sat quietly and still on each side of the cell block while the camera was going in the middle agains the wall at the end. We captured a shadow go across just like that. We went back the next time to see if we coudl recreate the shadow but we couldnt. We also got video of the positions that we were sitting in and not one of us could have caused the shadow.

That is why I dont comment on such things because i know some of them are hoaxes but I truly believe that soem of them are the real deal. I would have disabled the comments section if I was this person. You always get rude people make comments in a very disrespectful way.

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:41 am
by BillTheCat
Totally Fake!!!!

Motion sensors trip 'at the time' that motion is detected...

The camera was rolling (still, unmoving door) long before the 'apparition' trotted past.

If it was real then the footage would cut in 'just after' the movement of the apparition.

Assuming of course that 'motion sensors' can detect apparitions, which is highly unlikely!!! In which case the footage should have kicked in when the 'physical' door started to close.

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:19 am
by Lasso
Thanks for your imput guys, tracey, sticky.......

BillTheCat thank you for your thoughts. I have a lot to learn about these things and you have given me alot to think about next time I find a youtube video.

There is so many fake ones out there maybe you can hunt one down that you think is the real deal.



Lasso

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:40 pm
by Tracey
BillTheCat wrote:Totally Fake!!!!


Assuming of course that 'motion sensors' can detect apparitions, which is highly unlikely!!! .
How do motion sensors work exactly?

I kwow that ghosts can trigger infrared door bells. We have witnessed that on numerous occasions in Berrima courthouse when we used to investigate that place nearly every weekend for about 2 yrs. The activity in that place back then was very high & could be described as poltergeist activity. Often we would watch 2 people go through and many times it would go off the third time like someone else walked past it following them. It wasnt faulty, behaved normally other times. Often too we would be in the courtroom and it would go off. We would be locked in the place with all of us, usually about 7 of us, in one room at one time. We used to experience other stuff also like the audio courtroom story would go off and that needed a button to be pressed on the the stand. That happened a few times. ONe time about 4 cameras all malfunctioned at the same time and it was common occurance for DVR and camcorders to be turned off. We saw shadows, lights, heard furniture scraping and we always touched.When we were touched it wasnt just vague feelilngs ,it was very distinct touchings like having your backside touched or one time we were sitting in the judges chamber, having a quiet time adn I had my big toe grabbed. I pulled my foot back (was wearing open toed shoes)deciding whethr to mention it to the others when it was immediately grabbed again.
I know that that footsteps are a classic sign of a haunting but I swear this place had the loudedst footsteps i have ever heard and i never really been nervous in any place before but when i first heard those footsteps come up to us, I nearly bolted for the door lol.
I will post some of the footage in another post.

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:14 pm
by BillTheCat
Tracey,

You answered your own question a couple of times:
  • Motions sensors can be faulty
  • Motion sensors (infra red) as I understand it detect changes in heat and as such respond to heat signatures which can be varied according to the sensitivity level that they are set at.
In any case, I can tell you two things:

1. I have an outside motion sensitive light (I live in a rural estate which is very dark at night, no street lighting, houses significantly far apart). Lately it has been going off because I inadvertantly set it to be too sensitive. Too sensitive to the point where small insects were setting it off. Typical scenario, a loose cat or fox sets it off. Moths, insects are attracted to it, timer turns it off, insects start to move again, motions sensor turns it back on, timer turns it off, insects move, motion sensor turns it on again, loop, loop, loop, I get out bed and turn it off at the switch.

2. You missed the real point of my post. The Youtube video was supposedly of an apparition that was captured by the motion sensor triggering the video capture. The video capture was already running for 10 to 20 seconds before the apparation (or the door) moved. There was no motion sensor triggering the recording... If the apparation has tripped the motion sensor then the video would have started at the same time the apparition passed by the doorway. If the door had have triggered the motion sensor then the video would have started when the door started to close (and the apparition would have been missed).

Hence, unless this person just leaves their video running in the hopes of capturing apparitions passing their door and closing it, this is just a very poorly thought through hoax. It proves nothing and only serves to de-value other more mysterious and intriguing examples.

Hope that explains my position better.

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:41 pm
by stickyfingers
...as I said in my previous post...
...I think that what Crazyflea23 said in the comments below the video...

Quote:
If its triggered by motion sensors, why was the camera active before the motion happened?



...makes complete sense... myself... I believe that it's a fake... but still... pretty cool to look at even so... cheers... Stickyfingers.
...I have to agree with BillTheCat... regardless of whether these things do exist and do set off triggers or not... the person that put that video together doesn't seem to have thought it out enough in advance... but thanks for posting the link Lasso... cheers... Stickyfingers. (cool) (happy) (jest)

Re: True or False??

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:12 pm
by Lasso
Tracey wrote:[I will post some of the footage in another post.
I would love to see some of this footage tracey. You seem to have had quite a few experiences in this feel.

Look forward to hearding more about them.

Lasso

Re: True or False??

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:41 pm
by Stainmaster
i have seen black figures moving past me in rl and looks very real but in saying that it is so easy to fake things these days so i stay open minded

Re: True or False??

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:40 am
by intrigued
Hi all,

It's taken some courage, but I'm finally ready to tell my story - I think you'll appreciate it Tracey.

Earlier this year I became good friends with a lovely girl who just happens to have an extremely interesting job. She had mentioned that there are tours where she works and I had expressed interested in going on one, which she said wouldn't be a problem. She insisted that her workplace is haunted, and that she had seen ghosts on a daily basis for many years, so I was pretty excited. My mother's side of the family has the gift to sense spirits, and I was keen to be exposed to them. Silly me. What I haven't yet mentioned is her job.

My dear friend just happens to be the Curator of the Quarantine Station. Which means she lives onsite. Let's call her R.

One Friday night a few months back, a few of us were on facebook complaining of being bored, when R invited a few of us around for an impromptu party at the Q Station. We got there about midnight and settled in to drink our red wine and laugh. There were 5 of us - 2 men, and 3 women, with myself being the youngest. At around 2:30am, R decided we should go down to the theatre and do karaoke on the PA system. Suitably tipsy, we all decided it was a marvellous idea and we were all in fine voice to serenade "the wee ghosties". So we walked down the hill towards the Station itself, and R told us she wanted to take us to the shower rooms. I felt immediately uneasy and not a little bit nervous, and we were making quips about how that was a terrible idea because "we didn't bring any towels!" So to the shower rooms we went, red wine glasses in hand, freezing in the middle of winter.

I'll never forget this night for so many reasons. R prefaced opening the door by telling us that there were ghosts in the shower rooms at the moment, and that we shouldn't be scared and to feel free to go in. R also told us that every migrant went through these showers which was a mixture of water and 10% acid designed to strip away the first layer of skin as quarantine. Upon opening the doors, we all peeped in, and R informed us that there was a older man towards the end of the room that she could see. I was immediately disappointed that I couldn't see him, and the others went in to poke around and investigate. I stood on the steps, feeling ill at ease, like something was troubling me. I wasn't going in there for love or money. Something was decidedly not right, and R came over to ask if I was ok. Suddenly, I got this image in my head and I just started talking - "There's a woman here, R. Middle aged, and she's scared. Like, really scared. She doesn't know what's going on." I was a bit spooked by this revelation, but I could see her in my mind's eye. R nodded her head and said, "That's right. She's here at the moment too. She's just over there". I looked where she was pointing, again disappointed that I couldn't see anything. I moved to the other side of the stairs and looked out over the courtyard. There was some floodlighting, but it was mostly fairly dark. R came back out and stood on the step with me, and I felt the lady move in between us, like she wanted to be near me for comfort, like I had the answers to calm her down. I said to R "She's here, she's outside here on the step with us" and then the others wandered out to stand on the step. Suddenly I felt cold on my right side (the side closest to her) and my right leg began trembling. It was shaking and I couldn't stop it, let alone move it. I grabbed R's hand "My leg just started freaking out. Feel it! I can't move it!" She put her hand on my leg and looked at me with her mouth ajar, and just as suddenly my other leg started shaking too and I was stuck where I was. Everyone touched my legs and felt that they were shaking. I was starting to become unnerved, when I felt a real calmness come over me and I thought she doesn't want to hurt me, she just wants to be comforted. I smiled and said "It's ok". And just like that, my legs stopped trembling and I could walk again.

R shut the doors to the shower room and we went in the boiler room next door on the way through to her offices. She was telling us about how this was where they mixed the chemicals and the water for the showers, and there were a few artefacts that the others were looking at. I could feel something, a very playful, sweet innocent energy. There was a little girl in a dress and stockings who was wanting us to play with her! R walked over to me with a knowing smile on her face and asked "Who do you feel now?" I told her there was a little girl and she just wanted to play, she was begging us to play with her. My leg had started quivering again, but not as intensely and I could still move it. She laughed, and confirmed that there was a little girl who was always in this room, just wanting to play. R showed us her offices, and the little girl didn't want us to go. As we made our way over to the theatre, the little girl wasn't there anymore. I now know why. R opened the doors to the theatre, and turned on the lights. As soon as I walked in, I gasped. I felt a heavy pressure on my chest, and I told R what I felt - that there was an old man sitting at the back of the theatre watching us. She smiled and said "You're good - are you sure this is your first experience?" and told us all about the old man in the theatre whom she and her colleagues had all seen many times, and who didn't like her. I sat in the front row of the theatre by the door, and felt like I was being watched - it was like when you sit on the train or the bus and you know someone's looking at you and you just ignore them. I took my camera and turned to take a photo in the direction I sensed him. (Unfortunately, nothing came out on it.) R had been trying to make the PA system work for about 5 minutes, and the boys were mucking around on the stage, waiting for R to turn to microphone on. Everything was on, but nothing was happening. The boys went to help her, but nothing happened and they got bored and went back to the stage. Something told me to go and help her, so I walked to the other side of the theatre to where R was. "Hey," she said. "I can't work out what's wrong. Everything's on" and I said to her "I just had to come and help you make it work". As soon as the words were out of my mouth, the microphone began to work and the boys voices were amplified through the whole theatre. They danced and sang, and we laughed and laughed, though I had the feeling that the man was not happy with their choices of 'Edelweiss' and 'American Pie'. It wasn't long until the other lady had her turn, and the boys sat with me. I didn't want to sing, so R got up. As soon as she started to sing, the hairs stood up on the back of my neck. She was right - he was angry. I don't know what happened, but suddenly I did NOT want to be there anymore. I ran for the doors and pushed them open (they were heavy, but I could NOT have stayed in that room!!) and rushed across the courtyard. The others followed me out and asked what was wrong. I looked at R, scared, and said "He wants us to leave. NOW." She shut the doors, leaving the lights on, and we all hurried to the stairs. I grabbed onto a 40 yo man in our group and asked him not to let go of my arm as we brought up the rear. (I told him he was "my anchor" and "my shield", thought I don't know what that meant. I just felt like he had to be there to protect me) We started walking up the massive stairs back to R's house, and he could tell I was really scared. I wanted to turn around and look behind us - I could sense that we were being closely followed - but something inside me was literally SCREAMING not to turn around. It was terrifying. I mumbled to my friend a few times not to turn around and that we were being followed, and told everyone to just keep walking to the top - once we got to the top, I knew we'd be safe. And we were. I felt nothing when we got there, and I checked behind us a few times on the way back to the house, but sensed nothing else for the rest of the time we were there.

It was a very intense night for me, but I have no doubt there are spirits. This is the first time I've really allowed myself to think about what happened that night. I felt very vulnerable by the end of the night!

Can someone tell me, are these "normal" reactions/feelings? The legs shaking, the heaviness on the chest (I knew immediately he was male), the PA system not working until I did what I was told to... Has anyone experienced or heard of similar things happening? It's a lot to get off my chest, but I'm glad I have.

I'd really love your feedback.


intrigued x