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What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:36 am
by squatchbait
In the USA there are some people trying to access government data on "bigfoot" and "sasquatch". They are using various methods, including their Access to Information Act (this is a Canadian name; in the USA they have the equivalent). Apparently there are numerous sightings of soldiers training in remote forests, also sightings at Armed Forces Bases, and also some corpses found in the burned forests of Mount St-Helens after the volcano eruption. I know the conspiracy theorists are numerous in the USA, but some testimonies start to emerge that seem to confirm that the US government knows the sasquatch and has been studying it in total secret. Would you have any indication of this happening in Australia, and is any of you investigating the government files?? As a matter of general interest in the USA army files:
The "1975 Washington Environmental Atlas, Army Corps of Engineers", indicated the areas of sasquatch sightings in Washington state. Most areas indicated were unknown to the public since no sightings are reported in public web sites at those locations, so they seem to indicate sightings reported by US soldiers. This map showed up in the public eye and is shown at the Washington State Historical Society exhibit currently shown, called: Giants in the Mountains: The Search for Sasquatch Now through June 27
http://www.wshs.org/wshm/featuredexhibi ... tains.aspx
Then various stories difficult to research since the origins are not clear:
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/stories/nightsta.htm
http://www.xnewsnow.com/2010/06/sasquat ... overnment/
SO, anything like that, downunder? Thank you, mates (love the way you pronounce mate...) :)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:47 am
by Mike Williams
Hi Squatchbait
SO, anything like that, downunder?

As in govt employess having sightings..sure..
As in govt studies..
Zilch...if it exists and is "hidden" then we would never know about it anyway.
But, since "yowies" dont have any effect on the political/ecological/sociological or financial frame work here..then I doubt they could give a rats arse other than the usual snorts of derision and laughter..



Thank you, mates (love the way you pronounce mate...) :)


And I love the way Texans say "you all".. (happy)

Mike

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:16 pm
by Ella
Mike, it's "yall", not "you all". Only some people in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia say "you all", and probably then only under duress.

And Squatchbait, don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Speaking for myself, I do firmly believe there's a government cover-up here in the US for fear of mass panic, and of course the usual financial pressures such as the timber industry, oil and gas exploration, real estate development, and even religious uproar between the creationists and the evolutionists in case BF turns out to be human. Although I don't see how either faction could have a problem with that, since all creatures great and small, the Lord God made them all, so who GAS? (taz)

And of course the "pork barrel projects" like the dam that was proposed for the Sulphur River in East Texas, which would have flooded thousands of acres of wildlife habitat--what if BF were protected as an endangered species, as they surely should be? The livelihood of thousands of people would go down the drain, jobs that would be created by the building of such great dams. Only fair for the wildlife and the environment not to build the dam, but politically disastrous for some people in the state of Texas. (2guns)

I'm fixing to read your links now to see what you came up with. Later -d-u-d-e. (See, that's the way not to change that word to "mate" on this board. Yall say "mite", like the bug. In Texas, it only signifies the procreative act between animals. (no no) )

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:01 pm
by rickrocket2010
Hi Guys....Squatchbait i say our Government know's full well these things are out there, but i cant see them spending a sigle dollar looking for them....but saying that look at that S.A.S Army assult that took place between a Big Guy or Guys...and our Top Elite soliders ...the S.A.S done Squat to stop the buggars...hell they didnt even slow em down...(the report is on this site i think)...so yes the Government Knows..there would have to be a full report set out after the Account...one thinks...Take care

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:21 pm
by Ella
Tony, that story sounds like a real good hoax to me! (taz)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:22 pm
by SAB 8
In regards to that SAS encounter I`m pretty sure they weren`t under the jurisdiction of the Army at the time. They conducted the exercise independent of the Army so that being the case there would be no official documentation.

I`m not sure if there is any form of knowledge at an official level??? Its hard to say? I have noticed however that there are a lot of 'hotspots' in restricted areas (usually well signed with threats of heavy fines and imprisonment). Whether this is just a coincidence or not who knows?

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:35 pm
by Ella
But is it about Yowies? (I mean the severely threatening warning signs to keep out.) I just find that kind of incredible. To me, it seems that those signs could pertain to any number of things, and Yowies hanging around the area would really be a non-issue. Of course, I know nothing about Australian law or the Australian military. I only know that in the US, the last thing that warning signs would be posted about would be relevant to any Bigfoots being around. Cover-up or not, they don't hang around anywhere they would be under human threat. They'd hightail it out of there to safer places. Just seems to me the Yowies would do the same. Or at least hide well and not come out. (taz) (sneaky)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:41 pm
by SAB 8
But is it about Yowies? (I mean the severely threatening warning signs to keep out.) I just find that kind of incredible. To me, it seems that those signs could pertain to any number of things, and Yowies hanging around the area would really be a non-issue.
Your exactley right Ella. Thats why I pondered whether it was just coincidental or not. I didn`t say 100% that they were putting signs in just because of yowie activity. If I had to bet I would say it is just a coincidence. Maybe the restricted human activity in these areas provides a haven for the creatures to congregate in??? Dunno - all just speculation on my behalf.
Cover-up or not, they don't hang around anywhere they would be under human threat. They'd hightail it out of there to safer places. Just seems to me the Yowies would do the same.
This case was an exception to the 'normal' (if there is such a thing) as it involved what was believed to be an extremely aggressive creature. Its aggression may have stemmed from the clearing of habitat and the incredibly quick urban development which was (and still is) going on in that particular area of Australia. There were several encounters leading up to this event where threatening/aggressive behaviour was displayed.

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:44 pm
by Ella
Well, shoot, no wonder! I'd get extremely aggressive too if somebody aggravated me that much. No wonder the poor old Yowie was p*ssed off. Don't blame him a bit. (taz) (no no) (2guns)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:43 am
by squatchbait
SAB 8 wrote: I`m not sure if there is any form of knowledge at an official level??? Its hard to say? I have noticed however that there are a lot of 'hotspots' in restricted areas (usually well signed with threats of heavy fines and imprisonment). Whether this is just a coincidence or not who knows?
Interesting... I have noticed that some "wilderness areas" and "provincial state parks" have been set-up in the USA and Canada respectively since the 60"s just to protect "wildlife" and without any roads crossing them, protected sometimes by fences and signs saying that while trekking is not forbidden, camping is at your own risk, no fire should be lighted up, and if you get lost, you're on your own... everything to discourage the average citizen with his "blonde", as French Canadians say (missy in Australian I believe). We have the fully organized provincial parks in Canada, and those smaller and unreachable protective parks where we discourage people to show up. Without a road around, there is nothing to protect on Crown lands, millions of square kilometers actually, across Canada, nobody will show. SO perhaps these parks were created to protect sasquatches from people, or vice-versa.

In Bristish Columbia, about 15 years ago, I was crossing the Vancouver island with my blonde (lots of sightings reported there) from Nanaimo to Tofino, and I stumbled across a BC provincial government road sign (official government blue sign) saying: "Warning! This is sasquatch country: please report any sighting to the warden." I smiled, as I thought that this was a joke from the nearby fishing lodge owner or something like that, and I stopped to take a picture. A car behind me stopped also, a German tourist came out and introduced himself: a doctor from Dusseldorf, asking me what was a "sasquatch". I answered, stressing the wild aspect of it, the size and territorial behaviour, and the suspected abductions of women. He looked at me pensively, glanced back at his car on the rear bench of which were sitting two twin blonde girls of about 8 years old, cheerfully playing with an etch-a-sketch, and said gravely: "Thank you, mein herr!" He jumped in his car, turned around, and went back to Victoria ! (uh uh) This was so funny; now there is a German doctor out there telling everybody that we have huge forest beasts in Canada that beat their now extinct Neanderthal in size and savagery! Well, this is exactly true actually... Anyway, I returned there last summer and looked for the sign; it was gone! A sasquatch probably took it down. (bushman)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:55 am
by squatchbait
rickrocket2010 wrote:Hi Guys....Squatchbait i say our Government know's full well these things are out there, but i cant see them spending a sigle dollar looking for them....but saying that look at that S.A.S Army assult that took place between a Big Guy or Guys...and our Top Elite soliders ...the S.A.S done Squat to stop the buggars...hell they didnt even slow em down...(the report is on this site i think)...so yes the Government Knows..there would have to be a full report set out after the Account...one thinks...Take care

I am interested to find the story; will look for it herein... unless someone can tell me quickly where to find it?
AND, going back to my original post, is anyone in Australia trying to search officially the government records asking for information on the Yowie? Do you have a method to ask the government to search their databases and answer the question? An access to information act, forcing the government to answer? I think I will use our law to do that with Wildlife Canada, the Ministry of Mines and a few others... It cost about 100$ per search. If it is covered by the Official Secret Act, they are not obligated to answer. Otherwise they are. If anything turns out i will let you know. In the USA, there is an excellent research group who is trying that: see http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/Bigfootd ... oject.html

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:17 am
by rickrocket2010
Ella wrote:Tony, that story sounds like a real good hoax to me! (taz)


Hi Ella im not sure if its a Hoax or not...BUT Just Maybe if its true...Thats a Real Down to Earth Kick in the ASS to the Military....And to tell you the truth Ella if it was real..( and im going to get shot for saying this...lol) Im 110% on the Big Guys side Other words dont push them because they can push back 100 times harder....Take care Dear.....

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:29 am
by Ella
Exactly right, Rick! Leave them in peace, be they Sasquatch here or Yowie over there. I'm 100% no-kill, and I believe that killing one would be murder. Anybody that gratuitously tries to hurt a furball deserves to have their a** kicked by same. So I'm on your side, too. (taz) If I were a Yowie, I wouldn't hesitate to clean their clock.

"Blonde"? "Missy?" In the USA, it's just "girlfriend"--kinda trite and prosaic, huh? (BTW, "Missy" is my daughter's nickname, for M'Lissa.) There has never been a change in that term for a...well, girlfriend! Even if she's 95 years old. Well, wait, actually it's "lady friend" when referring to the elderly, if an old woman is fool enough to take up with some nappy old geezer. (jest) (hearts) (claps) (thumb Down)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:35 pm
by NoPolys
nappy old gezer?.... hmmmmm I may qualify there Ella, well except for the bald head part...... next time I visit Texas, ya'll may get a call Ma'am!

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:06 am
by Ella
Would love to visit with you, Nop, but while I may be a crazy old woman, I'm not a child molester. You're way too young. But come along if you get to Texas, and bring your wife or your girlfriend. Meanwhile, go after them Yowies! (taz) :lol: (jest)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:48 pm
by suspect
theres no doubt that there is something or some one running around the australian bush and theres too many witnesses from all kinds of back grounds too pass it off as a story from the town drunk. the government knows their out there but take into consideration the public reaction not to mention the cowboy shooters that will go purpously hunting the yowies for a nice trophy lets face it imagine having a stuffed yowie head over your bar it would really be something. i think just leave them be i support groups such as the yowie hunters that are doing their best with the limited resources available to them to study and try to understand the yowies. i just think it would really be something if somebody managed to comunicate with one.[quote][/quote]

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:22 pm
by Dion
suspect wrote: i just think it would really be something if somebody managed to communicate with one.
You and me both

Although it looks like the basic communication is just throwing rocks, roaring in ones face, stalking, tree tapping, etc lol

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:06 am
by deadpool
Well, don't the Australian military call their camo suits that snipers wear "ghillie suits" or "yowie suits"? Also on that, if I remember correctly, wasn't there a sighting by a sniper during training? All above board of course, but essentially he thought he had one of his "targets" in sight, radio'd it in only to find out there was no-one in the near-by area.. so he takes another look down the scope and it was actually our big hairy friend doing whatever it is when they're not hiding from you and/or chasing/being chased by us folks who just want to say "hi, you're on camera!" :D

Apparently they call them "Yowie suits" because of the smell that builds up after a few hours of lying there motionless and stuff. Which makes you think.. if the Australian Military coined the phrase, they'd have to know at-least the existence of them.

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:53 am
by Ella
Alex!!!! "Motionless and stuff"??? I thought the term "and stuff" was strictly outworn American vernacular from the 1990's. You must of meant "and stiff". And I agree completely, if they was motionless, they obviously were stiff. So happy to have you back, my 4th of July is now officially MADE!!! (taz) (2guns) (thumb up) (cool)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:57 pm
by panzerjager
deadpool wrote:Well, don't the Australian military call their camo suits that snipers wear "ghillie suits" or "yowie suits"? Also on that, if I remember correctly, wasn't there a sighting by a sniper during training? All above board of course, but essentially he thought he had one of his "targets" in sight, radio'd it in only to find out there was no-one in the near-by area.. so he takes another look down the scope and it was actually our big hairy friend doing whatever it is when they're not hiding from you and/or chasing/being chased by us folks who just want to say "hi, you're on camera!" :D

Apparently they call them "Yowie suits" because of the smell that builds up after a few hours of lying there motionless and stuff. Which makes you think.. if the Australian Military coined the phrase, they'd have to know at-least the existence of them.
I can definitely vouch for the smell Yowie suits generate lol. But i don't think that is the cause of their naming. I believe it has more to do with the visual appearance of the suit. Covered in strips of hessian and camo uniform the wearer not only looks bigger and bulkier but looks extremely hairy not unlike or bush friends. Especially after months of use when parts become dirty and matted and mixed with ground matter. Cheers,

Panzerjager

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:50 pm
by cryptobotanica
It must be remembered that there is "The Gubberment" and then there are individual public servants who work for the government. Unfortunately, one or even many individuals of a certain belief or persuasion have very little hope of actually implementing any significant changes at a policy-making level. Course, sometimes that works out for the best, and other times, not so well.

Many Parks and Wildlife officers, Rangers, foresters etc are in the know. Many people working in close liason with Aboriginal communities in more out of the way places, especially up the Cape have picked up the odd grain of wisdom (and probably a large grain of salt also!) in their travels. Some military people have their reports, and so on.

Of course, for every individual that has some belief, or some experience, there are others that do not believe, or put it all down to rather more mundane causes. It is also regrettably true that simply being employed by an upstanding, well regarded organisation does not guarantee that a person is immune from spinning yarns, decorating the truth or what have you. My old man often shakes his head listening to some of the pure A grade fiction cooked up by returned serviceman... all he can say is "eh... I must have been to a different war? Don't remember any of that!" (lol) (tank) .

I have often observed helicopters flying around some hairy spots of Southern Queensland, without running lights, between 11pm and 3am. These are often focused on mountainous terrain, are most commonly sighted (or heard) on fairly still nights with moderate cloud cover. I have spotted their outline and feint reflection off glass etc on clear nights with a good moon. They approach an area on a beeline at significant altitude, only to drop to around 600m as the land rises and proceed to fly a fairly fixed "spoked wheel search" pattern. From sounds, and brief glimpses they are something akin to a fairly standard BellRanger.

These are not search and rescue craft, nor are they paramadics (apart from knowing how the local rescue choppers sound just from repeat exposure, any of the above always have their running lights up). There is a large helicopter training centre at a military base some distance away..actually, two of em... but both have ready access to very similar country much closer to their home turf.

These choppers at times seem to be using "silent running" techniques - you may see a glint off a reflective surface , at a range of around 2km, while being unable to hear the rotors, or as they go past it sounds like a standard chopper but with your fingers in your ears - and often, after working a set search pattern for some time, seem to go a bit freestyle and alternate between cruising along rideglines and saddles, and then dropping further into valleys and flats.

A few occasions have seen this type of activity very close to my own home (Kilcoy region)and repeated patterns at that. I have also been flown over at VERY low altitude by what I believe to be the new "eurocopter", though that was during the day in very good visibility and they simply went straight over the house, to come back about half an hour later. Looked quite different to other platforms I have seen, and it suited the eurocopter Wiki very closely. I do not believe that one off sighting has anything to do with the other, more mysterious craft... more likely a simple training or testing run between bases/training grounds, taking a somewhat indirect route by simply following the ring of the ranges across, down and then back around.

Note - the odd ones are not cropspotters, those have a mode of operation all their own and the abovementioned more mysterious craft have been observed in seasons definitely outside of the cropspotting window. They pay more attention to southern and western sides of hilly country than they do to the sunnier aspect (OS readers, remember in Australia, it's all upside down... sun to the north) and besides that, have been spotted working over the same well defined areas on a number of occasions, rather than single fly-overs every so often.

I have also observed small fixed wing craft flying with one white light, no port or starboard lights, executing the odd loop around mountaintops and down between them.

Also, and this is the odd part...many occasions of seeing very new model, well equipped and maintained four wheel drives full of large, humourless looking blokes wearing nondescript dark blue/grey "workwear" style clothing.King Gees with class. These vehicles have almost always been spotted in groups of 3 or 4, are festooned with radio and satellite gear, appear very well maintained and display no markings, insignia, "max loading" or the like. They barrel into the scrub and reserves at odd hours, typically returning two or three hours later and leaving as quietly as they came. I am familiar with wildlife survey teams, and they simply do not have the same vibe about them.

They are always very, very clean and would seem to have sublegal or very nearly sublegal tint on the windows. All externally mounted gear seems to be of a similar age, that is, fitted at roughly the same time rather than civilian fourbies where you can see they added this CB mast a while ago, that satnav stalk a while later, and so on.

They do not slow along the way, they never stop at the usual "wow, look at that view!" spots that most weekend warriors seem to stop at and they have little in common with more typical official vehicles that you see doing the rounds, such as rangers, energex or telco workers, police or any other govt. entity of which I am aware.

As a reformed govt employee, I am pretty well able to spot govt vehicles and methods of approach and these guys are definitely either govt or VERY well organised and financed private sector.

Interestingly, both my fiance and myself have noticed our mobile phones have a strange habit of turning themselves on and off around the same time as these vehicles or aircraft are sighted. I have wireless broadband, and often find that my dual band capacity is slashed right back, at times even failing entirely and defaulting to GSM, when they are in the vicinity and it's not uncommon to have more dropouts in the next two hours than we would experience in the rest of the week.

These choppers take a distinctly different route and operate very differently to the typical 'hawks etc that I see heading between shoalwater and amberley, oakey and the coastal regions. I have spotted a couple during the day, and just at sunset, with no running lights, no discernible markings. No, they weren't Black Helicopters :P I'd say "navy issue grey" helicopters.

I have yet to reach anything like a definite conclusion about these events but I am sure you can come to your own suspicions. These incidents have happened roughly every 6 weeks for the last 12 months, or thereabouts. The fleet of suspect fourbies almost always has appeared in the area within 48 hours of the last fly-by.

No way of knowing what they are looking for, of course, but they are very definitely looking for SOMETHING... and looking very, very hard at that.

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:04 pm
by deadpool
Simple question: under what "section" of our government would be.. I can't think of the word, so i'll go with affiliated with our hairy friends? Wildlife? Preservation? Parks & Services? RSPCA? (lol)

In all seriousness now.. off we go into hypothetical land for a moment. Say someone actually finds one, gets a clear as day image of one and/or video of one. Walking around, roaring, etc. That and a good blood/hair sample to go along with it. So theres no more "what if's" - it would be finally proven that there is something out there and it is real. What would be the next logical step? Inform the world that yes, there are giant apes roaming the bush/forests? Don't say a word to anyone? Hype it up for a few weeks then stop, but keep going in secret?

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:36 pm
by huey1
fairly standard BellRanger. ???

I presume you mean Bell 206 Jetranger.



These choppers at times seem to be using "silent running" techniques - LOL

NO SUCH THING.... Trust me I fly them for a living, there is no helicopter in the world capable of so called silent running. End off.

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:44 pm
by deadpool
I know they developed 2 in the US around the late 90's for rec/attack situations, but the stealth part was just to deflect radar, etc. Did some research about stealth 'choppers, and the above ones mentioned were Boeing/Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanches. Think an Apache tankbuster, but stealth.

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:54 pm
by Dion
huey1 wrote:fairly standard BellRanger. ???

I presume you mean Bell 206 Jetranger.



These choppers at times seem to be using "silent running" techniques - LOL

NO SUCH THING.... Trust me I fly them for a living, there is no helicopter in the world capable of so called silent running. End off.
Hey there Huey1

I noticed you signed up on the forums early last year good to see you finally poked your head up.

Welcome to the forums (thumb up)

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:18 pm
by Shazzoir
It never fails to amaze me the diverse backgrounds and knowledge our posters have.
I'm thoroughly enjoying your well written posts, Cryptobotanica.
Huey1, good to see you posting too :)

If I were an Organisation Of Authority, and I'd found either definitive proof of
a) an alien base
b) yowies
c) some extremely valuable natural resource

I'd probably stick with a LOT of covert reconnaissance until I knew exactly what I had found. You would look a right fool blurting out you'd found something majorly important without having first got as many facts straight as you could. If this is what's going on, then there seems to be an assumption that normal everyday people wouldn't be able to cope with news of this magnitude (though I reckon only a very small fragment of the population would have a full-on psychotic freakout at any of these bits of news), and therefore, we need to be protected from knowing the truth (whatever it may be). Anyway, before the tin foil hats come out, that's all I wanted to say, LOL!

Shazz

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:29 pm
by topender
Many Parks and Wildlife officers, Rangers, foresters etc are in the know. Many people working in close liason with Aboriginal communities in more out of the way places, especially up the Cape have picked up the odd grain of wisdom (and probably a large grain of salt also!) in their travels.

Which is why i automatically put my hand up every time there is work (teaching) to be done in remote communities athat they around the NT....i currently have about 13 contacts in about 8 remote communities...these contacts are older senior Aboriginal people who have a wealth of knowledge in the " yowie" area, and point out area's they inhabit

cheers

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:49 pm
by cryptobotanica
If I found a yowie, indisputably, I'd leave it alone and contact the QLD Museum. They're pretty cluey and have access to enormous numbers of specialists etc. Certainly not the media. RSPCA wouldn't do a whole lot (they're strapped for resources and people-power as it is) and I guess if you find one flattened out the front of your house, call WIRES or whatever your local "report injured native animals to us" organisation is.

Hah, thanks Huey1. Of course, NOTHING can move silently under it's own power. I should worded that more clearly.

Assuming I don't know the entirely correct terminology (not flying em for a living, and all ), I guess I meant "significantly quieter than far more obvious and legit seeming helicopters that I usually see or hear flapping around" :wink:

Even fairly dull, disinterested visitors have noticed it going on. First time I heard it (or didn't hear it?) I actually kept my eyes open for a fireball as it plopped onto the ground - sounded almost stalled. But no free fireworks show.

I am familiar with the "pocketing" effect on sound of pilots cruising low over mountainous areas, this is quite different to that. Imagine there's your typical chopper thrashing madly , about a k away , 800m or so off the ground, in still air, and you can barely hear it. More as if it were three times that distance away.

Something along these lines I guess...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_noise_reduction

these would make a LOT more sense to you, than to myself. Pretty happy on the ground, me although I was in and out of a few when I lived up north.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... t/mh-x.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/webextras/ ... opter.html

and this kind of experience... though I know it's a fairly cheesy site :D

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread338759/pg1

So it seems there is certainly something to it, though I hadn't looked before now to be honest.

Simply, significantly more quiet, and pretty much imperceptible if you are inside with the telly on, until they are right on top of you. I tend to pay attention to anything flapping madly over my head.

Maybe someone's just using the backcountry to test something obscure? Who knows. But it's pretty strange.

edit: found this, interesting stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:36 pm
by Jim Hocking
Ella wrote:Mike, it's "yall", not "you all". Only some people in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia say "you all", and probably then only under duress.


Yall say "mite", like the bug. In Texas, it only signifies the procreative act between animals. (no no) )
(off topic) What Team in sport. "Yall" say "rooting for" we say barracking. we leave "rooting " for a few undesirable young ladies to look after with part or all a team. And it is considered procreative as well.
It sure embarrased me as a kid when some guy asked me who I was Rooting for. :oops:
If I was doing that it would have only been for my partner and myself

Re: What do the Australian Authorities know about the Yowie?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:24 am
by cryptobotanica
Correction - some people from the southern states,people more than 1000km inland in somecases, and kiwis (New Zealanders) , say "mite". Everyone else says "may-t". Paul Hogan buggered up a lot of things but then, I think he lives in FL. on a tax dodge these days, anyway . As a general rule, if your parents had different last names BEFORE being married, don't wear ug boots in summer and can cook something other than beef mince and cabbage, you probably say "may-t" rather than "mite" or "moyit".

But then we tend to talk with "dead tongues", as the lingusits say, versus americans who talk with their tongues wrapped around their lower teeth and the brits who talk with their tongues wrapped around their top teeth. our vowel sounds are typically, exactly what they are meant to be. We don't think the letter "R" is a vowel, for example, so it is pronounced without being accentuated.

Actually most of us only use "mate" when it comes time to butter up tradies,(uhh... tradesmen?) taxi drivers and harmless drunks. Australia has never had more than single digit percentage of it's population living or working in the rural sector, despite the legend of us all being bronzed bushman. Most of us are complete townies. Then again, certain european nations beat our annual beer consumption figures too... the most aussie thing in the world is to not let the facts get in the way of a good story. We apparently invented the clothesline, the small truck and democracy, if you believe the hype.

Exception is "owy'go'n'mayt" which is aussie for "hello".

And to clear up the yall thing, a lot of us contract the hell out of just about every word and sentence, especially as you get further north. So to aussie ears, we year "y'all" which is obviously a short form of "you all", whether anyone else expects us to hear it like that, or can remember that that's what it means, or not.

Example...

english - "welcome to our humble home, we trust your journey was an uneventful one, please, make yourself at home!"

strayan - "owyago'n'mayt, owzy'drive,ennycoppaz? ehhhcomein, grabajink"

Cross an Irish , with an Aboriginal accent, and you have Standard Australian. Which is why we NEARLY make sense to most nationalities, but rarely make complete sense to anyone (lol) Course, 1 in 4 of us has a parent born OS, so it tends to play havoc with generalisations :wink: