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Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pm
by Dion
Just found these Youtube videos pretty impressive, looks better than some Hollywood stuff.

Which has me thinking how easy would it be for someone to fake digitally a Yowie or Bigfoot walking through the woods?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUWyoWfl ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMzxtzJ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVv0F1mP ... re=related

Re: Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:00 pm
by deadpool
Looks like a Maya/Cinema4D rendering. Probably a kid in a motion capture suit. Either way I contacted the person who made the shorts and asked how they did it. Hopefully I get a reply back.

The "wood imp" sounds like its talking like something out of Star Wars.

Re: Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:33 pm
by sealo
Nice work, even bothered to make the forest litter move at his feet, def not a stretch to think someone could put together a pretty legit looking fake.

I dont know if you guys are familiar with Sylvanic.com

http://www.sylvanic.com/home.html

Heard this guy on a podcast once, pretty well spoken and an elaborate story to go with, absolutely sensational if true, but they were selling their vids2 and 3 and now i see a "Novel" link down the side, signs are pointing to BS, anyway check the vid on the link, just a few frames needing some simple cg, the guy who made the "tree imp" could replicate this in his sleep.

What are your thoughts?

Re: Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:23 am
by Dion
Hey Sealo, Alex

That sylvanic stuff is what I was more getting to "how easy would it be to fake digitally a Yowie/Bigfoot walking through the woods?"

And yes I reckon its all fake and BS Sealo same as you!

Re: Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:39 am
by deadpool
How easy would it be to create a fake digital yowie? Well, i'll give you a comparison for an example.
Using a digital puppet created by Jason Schleifer and Bay Raitt at Weta Digital, animators created Gollum's performance using a mixture of motion capture data recorded from Serkis and the traditional animation process of keyframing, along with the laborious process of digitally rotoscoping Serkis' image and replacing it with the digital Gollum's in a technique coined rotoanimation.
I don't need to tell everyone what thats from :D

But since then, its got a lot easier. Find someone who would be good at 3D modelling, get them to make the model in Maya/Poser/Cinema4D, find someone who's tall & bulky or even just tall, and bulk them out with pillows or something. Make the guy wear a black wetsuit with yellow ping-pong balls attached to it. Film him walking along twice, once with him in it, once without (mark along where he walks, so unseen persons can move trees, etc). Take that footage, put it into Maya/Cinema4D with your already 3D digital yowie, use a process what they call Inverse Kinematics (basically, it simulates the way bones, muscles; amongst other things, work). Then render your final product on a blue background. Then put that into a program that can handle keyframing (blue screen) and bam, digital yowie taking a stroll. If you could find someone who was REALLY good with 3D modelling, you could probably come out with something like the wood imp videos.

Re: Digital effects Yowie related

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:07 am
by deadpool
I hate waking up early, but i digress.

On the "digital yowie" thing; i realized it can be done. All I really need is the right models for a program/game I own called Garry's Mod. Its basically a sandbox (open ended) game where you can do pretty much whatever you want to do. If you can think it, it can be done in the game. So all I need to do is find a good yowie/bigfoot model to put into the game, animate it and, well there you have it. It won't be as top notch as the YT videos in the first post, but I can make it look pretty schmick nonetheless.

The process itself would be something along the lines of this:

1: find bigfoot/yowie/yeti model
2: put into game with a forest type map & animate the yowie taking a stroll
3: add in another virtual character that spots bigfoot & does something (freaks out, gets chased, runs away)
4: record the result & put it into Sony Vegas or some other video editing program
5: add real sound effects for the bigfoot, growling, etc (may even sample that video of rick being followed (for the footsteps), if thats okay with him)
6: post-process & render final footage
7: upload you YouTube & post final link on here

That, or find a good 3D model of a bigfoot (know of a few places I can find one) & put that into a 3D rendering program I have (its production quality, they used it to make some of the background scenery in Pirates of the Caribbean) - wouldn't be animated, but it'd look more photorealistic than the animation I mentioned above.