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Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:52 pm
by Rusty2
Hello Everyone ,
I've been doing the yowie thing for 10 month's now and I can't tell you how frustrating it is to know that there's something there
but it doesn't want to be photographed . Had in place , 2 ir motion activated video camera's , a timelapse camera (which take's 3500 photo's a day ) a voice activated recorder , a canon around my neck and a jvc everio full hd in my hand . Have got some very interesting recording's but the clincher is the photo . Everyone I show , either goe's oooh or just gives me a funny look .

Would be interested in anyone's comment's .......

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:33 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Hi rusty2
Nice print. There might be 2 to 3 yowie types out there.
The size of the print looks like its around 11 inch ?
It looks like the blue mount rangers one.
Where are you roughly ?

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:10 pm
by Rusty2
The yowie Mrx wrote:Hi rusty2
Nice print. There might be 2 to 3 yowie types out there.
The size of the print looks like its around 11 inch ?
It looks like the blue mount rangers one.
Where are you roughly ?

Hey Mrx , I'm situated on the far south coast of N.S.W. I had a ruler in the 4b but forgot to use it . Still a bit green at this .This photo was taken about 7 month's ago . I estimate it was only a size ten or eleven . I think there's 2 types here . I saw something out there 3 week's ago out of the corner of my eye . This thing was 8 or 9 foot , black and lumpy . That's the only way I can describe it . Only saw it for a split second . I think it let me know it was there . It couldn't possibly have a size ten foot . To scared to drive out there at night let alone get out of the car . lol

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:20 pm
by Dion
Interesting footprint there Rusty2

Can I ask were this foot print was found? general area no specifics needed.

Was it found along a creek bed?

Cheers

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:33 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Good work mate.


Size 10 is about 11 inch and It does look like what I seen from over researcher. From the rangers to the coast of N.S.W.

I think deadpool putting all the prints from all the researcher together so we can get a better look whats going on.

Cheers Mr X

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:11 pm
by Rusty2
Chewy wrote:Interesting footprint there Rusty2

Can I ask were this foot print was found? general area no specifics needed.

Was it found along a creek bed?

Cheers
Yeah mate , I found it in a mud puddle on a 4wd bush "track" . It does see some traffic . Mostly bikes . The bush in the area is very dense , covered in vines . It would make sense that an intelligent creature would use a track for access in the night rather than trudging through the bush . Dunno...........

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:20 pm
by Jezebel
Hey Rusty2

Can you share any more details on the interesting recordings you've got? Were they visual or audio recordings? If audio, were they calls, grunts, tree knocking, bipedal-sounding footsteps through the bush or anything like that?

Promise we won't give you any funny looks. : )

Great print, too. Nice work. Sounds like you are putting in a lot of time, thought and effort. Good luck!

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:57 pm
by Rusty2
Jezebel wrote:Hey Rusty2

Can you share any more details on the interesting recordings you've got? Were they visual or audio recordings? If audio, were they calls, grunts, tree knocking, bipedal-sounding footsteps through the bush or anything like that?

Promise we won't give you any funny looks. : )

Great print, too. Nice work. Sounds like you are putting in a lot of time, thought and effort. Good luck!
Hey Jezebel ,
The only recording I should explain is the "Sneakin/snorting" recording , where my recorder is tied to a tree in a camoflauged pipe . Something sneek's up to it , grabes the tree my recorder is tied to and goes in for a sniff and a snort . The other's are self explanitory . Realy they might be anything but the footprint "and" the recording's tell's me , there is something out there .

Cheer's Rusty2.........................

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:21 pm
by deadpool
The sneaking & snorting recording is good. I put a gain amplifier (like turning up the volume, without the distortion) through the mp3 and replayed it back several times; the last snort/intake of breath before it ends sounds like it is coming from something big.

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:01 am
by Rusty2
deadpool wrote:The sneaking & snorting recording is good. I put a gain amplifier (like turning up the volume, without the distortion) through the mp3 and replayed it back several times; the last snort/intake of breath before it ends sounds like it is coming from something big.
Hey deadpool ,
Yeah , it's freaky ! From what I can gather , it was there within hour's of me putting it there . The camo pipe I had the recorder in was covered in sprayon tar and grass . I reackon it could smell the tar or hear the electronic's . I've got one more here . It's something tapping stones together , walking through the bush near the recorder and the last segment is a rockslide . The recorder only last's for 24 hour's in this cold weather . So I figure it's in the vicinity ???? .........

Cheer's Rusty2........................

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:09 am
by Dion
Interesting audio you have there Rusty2

Thanks for sharing

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:50 am
by Mike Williams
Hi Rusty..I just spotted this thread...damn nice "work" you are doing..!!
Still a bit green at this
We all are "green"..so to speak..there are no "experts" in any of this.. (cool)
There are the mildy confused..and the totally confused..the latter is where i fall.. (jest)

Mike

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:26 am
by Rusty2
Thank's Chewy , thank's Mike ,
I've given up on that immediate area and am going to focus on a farm about 4 k's away .
Hopeing that I can get some footage there . There's plenty of livestock and new calf's . I think it's like ringing
a dinner bell .

Cheer's Rusty2...................

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:31 am
by AL Pitman
I have always pondered the frquency / amount of times to tap rocks together when trying to make contact , if it was to many then the subject would obviously realise it was not one of their own kind .

As in the audio 3 times in quick succsession feels about right for something trying to communicate but at the same time not wanting to divulge their immediate position , after replaying the audio several times I think you can hear it and or them dropping the stones straight after effecting the tapping sounds . This gives hopefully a little bit of insight as to what may be required to produce a result . Cheers for the audio , " GREAT WORK "



I AM NOT LOST I AM WHERE I WANT TO BE ............

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:44 pm
by NoPolys
I'm nodding with Mike here, I'm more than mostly confused at times !! (lol)

Great work Rusty2 !! Mind if I ask what kind of recorder and how big the tube was you put it into?

Great idea on the spray on tar and grass, as curious as we know they are, it seems they shy away from a lot of the scents we never thing about (wad up a bunch of new cammouflage netting and stick it up to your nose for a long sniff and ya get what I mean).

I considered briefly rubbing pineapple all over my fluffy self as a cover scent, but it didn't take long for me to realize I'd smell like a big pina colada (oops) .

Al;

Three seems to be a magic number for some reason doesn't it? also, the size of the rock seems to have some bearing too.... tone maybe? I dunno.

cheers

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:34 pm
by Dean Harrison
My interpretation is, as always has been, the tree knocks are used as communication to allow others to know their position, and ask for the position of others. Which is why we often hear a response.

If there is no return communication, this could either mean that one is too close to us to expose his position or perhaps there isn’t another of its kind within audible range.

They are in no way as solitary as some may think, and they certainly interact. This I do know.

The wood knocks in the audio is at a greater pace than I have heard before. There well could be, and reasonably so, a difference in meanings depending on the rate and intensity of the impacts. Certainly not unrealistic to fathom.

DMH

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:49 pm
by Rusty2
That's a really great theory . Quicker tapping / knock's and the frequency mean different stuff . Jeez , I wish I knew what they were saying . To Answer Nopoly's question , it's an sony "ic" recorder . $150 from dick smith , Voice activated . It has low / high / and super high quality settings . Very small and fit's inside a piece of 75mm plumbing .
Seeing is believeing but listening is great . I would encourage anyone to use one in the field . Maybe we can start up a database and decript what there saying .

Cheer's Rusty2............................

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:09 am
by deadpool
I think your "standard" wood knock would be like a "hey, i'm over here" kind of thing. Maybe if they're closer & the tapping is faster, it might be like a "hey, theres someone here!" reaction.

Curiosity, was the tapping recording before or after the sniffing/snuffling recording? That could very well tell us something.

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:53 pm
by Rusty2
deadpool wrote:I think your "standard" wood knock would be like a "hey, i'm over here" kind of thing. Maybe if they're closer & the tapping is faster, it might be like a "hey, theres someone here!" reaction.

Curiosity, was the tapping recording before or after the sniffing/snuffling recording? That could very well tell us something.

Hey Deadpol , yep ! Month's apart . I visit there most weekend's to collect the files , but the recorder only last's for up to 24 hour's in this cold weather . So that's one chance in seven per week at getting any recording's . It last's 2 or three day's in summer . I've been going there for at least 7 month's .

Cheer's Rusty2......

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:48 pm
by Jim Hocking
Dean Harrison wrote:My interpretation is, as always has been, the tree knocks are used as communication to allow others to know their position, and ask for the position of others. Which is why we often hear a response.

If there is no return communication, this could either mean that one is too close to us to expose his position or perhaps there isn’t another of its kind within audible range.

They are in no way as solitary as some may think, and they certainly interact. This I do know.

The wood knocks in the audio is at a greater pace than I have heard before. There well could be, and reasonably so, a difference in meanings depending on the rate and intensity of the impacts. Certainly not unrealistic to fathom.

DMH


I believe it is basically looking for food, which must consume most of it's time.
Find a suitable tree give it a knock. Hmm sounds good go up and down to find the Grub and wham o another limb or tree bites the dust. Scent alone would let them no of a mates location, possibly backed up with a verbal sound or tree / stone tapping.
They are not concerned by us at all, other than to avoid us as much as possible.
If they are sprung in the open they make themselves disappear pretty quick.
They survive only by being stealthy and only if cornered will stand their ground, Hopefully bluffing the threat. And that information was from my Grand father from family stories from his youth. Family settled Mt Wills area Vic 1856. Yowie sightings were quite common to the Mountain Miners then.

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:37 pm
by deadpool
They survive only by being stealthy and only if cornered will stand their ground, Hopefully bluffing the threat. And that information was from my Grand father from family stories from his youth. Family settled Mt Wills area Vic 1856. Yowie sightings were quite common to the Mountain Miners then.
Thats awesome. Does your family have any more stories like that you'd care to share? If Yowie sightings were common back then.. maybe be able to shed some light on the subject of their behaviour. Or, just as we have, the Yowies have adapted too and have become more recluse & even more stealthy.

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:57 am
by rickrocket2010
Hi Rusty i have to Agree with the guys Communication for Sure with the Stones clacking great audio capture mate...well done keep up the fine work buddy...and take care out there

Re: Can anyone identify this footprint

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:17 am
by Rusty2
rickrocket2010 wrote:Hi Rusty i have to Agree with the guys Communication for Sure with the Stones clacking great audio capture mate...well done keep up the fine work buddy...and take care out there

Hi and thank's Rickrocket ,
I'm in total agreement with all the above ..........

Cheer's Rusty2