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Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:45 pm
by Rusty2
Hi there ,
Just thought I'd share with you , part of a timelapse I took earlier this year . Not real clear but look's like a cat to me .
In one of the frames it look's like it's got a black head . I reckon it'a about 1.5 foot high . Saw a post somewhere here reffering to a native ? cat . This is way out at the foot of the mountain's .
Here are two of the four frames and a vid .

Cheer's Rusty2..........

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:40 pm
by lil foot
sorry rusty2, can you give us a mark on the photos to see where we should be looking?
cheers

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:20 pm
by Mike Williams
Lil Foot..I think(hope) Rusty is referring to the animal in the video sequence moving from the rear right..
What frame rate is the video shooting at Rusty.

Mike

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:24 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Hi rust2 I got you pic and put it into cs4 than EXPOSURE at +3.95.
Zoom in and BLOODY HELL that a big cat under the bash good work

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:30 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Rusty2 big cat or big moggy

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:04 pm
by Mike Williams
If that photo The yowie Mrx is talking about is a cat..then there must be 2 cats..because in the video..the black animal moves from right to left..whilst the black blob in the background stays in the same position.
Damn moggies..

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:38 am
by Darwinist
I don“t seem to be able to run the video. Are anyone else expieriencing the same problem? (taz)

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:48 am
by The yowie Mrx
video not woking for me , I would lov to see it....? (claps hands)

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:28 pm
by Rusty2
Sorry for the screw around ,
Have a put the arrows in for clarity . Photo still low res but you can see it . Each frame of the vid is ten second's .
The video file is mpeg4 Hope it work's , my apolagies if it doesn't . Am still new at this ..... (sweat drop)
Yes , it's moving from right to left .

Cheer's Rusty2...............

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:06 pm
by Mike Williams
Thanks for going to that Trouble Rusty..!!
Thats what I was looking at in the video.
The videos wont always play in the forum....just download them..
If you have a pc..they will play since it looks like a windows media video..and for mac`s just download something like
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/flip4mac.mspx
both ways will work..!!

Mike

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:29 am
by NoPolys
Rusty;

Sounds like you are doin great, must be my AV stuff, but when I click to play the video, it logs me out...lol

It's hard to see (as always) when you are some distance away and try to point out an obscure bit in the field of view, I know this from my own sorry attempts.

Can you give us an approximate distance from the cam to the object(s) in the stills?

Thanks for this in advance. Oh, and don't worry about me not bein able to see the vid, the vidcaps are very interesting!

I don't know any of the answers about these things, I'm still working on what questions to ask..... siiiigh

Cheers

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:23 pm
by Rusty2
when I click to play the video, it logs me out...lol

Yeah I sometimes have difficulty with them as well .

Can you give us an approximate distance from the cam to the object(s) in the stills?

About 30 meter's

I don't know any of the answers about these things, I'm still working on what questions to ask..... siiiigh

Your tellin me . I'm sure I saw on a website somewhere someone mentioning native cats . It may have been "Australian rare fauna research" or "Where light meet's dark" ????????

Cheer's Rusty2.............

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:50 pm
by NoPolys
Rusty2;

I think you may be thinking a little apple and oranges. The native cats of Australia are marsupial quolls http://www.environment.gov.au/biodivers ... s2004.html. They were called cats because of the general resemblance to "polecats" in North America and Europe probably due to the coat spotting seen in the civets from those places.

When many folks think of cats, instant visual of a felid comes to mind. In this neck of the woods, it ends up being marsupial...... maybe... (lol)

I say maybe because well, I'm a simple kinda guy who doesn't want to rule anything in or rule anything out.

The short version is, if it looks like a cat and meows like a cat, it may be a cat....... except here in Australia

I Hope the link helps to clarify for you, or at least make ya ask more questions !

Cheers

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:27 pm
by Rusty2
Hey Nopoly's ,
Yes , the quolls . Didn't know they were refered to as cat's . My brother and I saw a black female with white spot's and baby's clinging to it's back , crossing the highway early one morning on the clyde mountain . She's wild country in there . On that note , I saw what I can only describe as a black panther/puma bound across the road in front of my car , west of Moruya very late one night , when I was 20 or so .
So , where do these large cat's come from ? Are you the author of the new book Mike ? It's my understanding they where let loose by the american military at the end of WW2 . Is that correct ? or did they escape from circuses ? My grandfather was in a "posse" that went after a lion that escaped down this neck of the woods in the late 1800's or early 1900's .

Cheer's Rusty2..............

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:30 am
by NoPolys
Rusty2;

You're asking all the right questions!! I would suggest you find a copy of Mike and Ruby's book, there are a lot of answers in it and even more questions. A very good read and I highly recommend you get a copy. Follow the link on the thread list.

There is a lot of discussion where or how the "cats" came to Australia. Some people claim there are native peoples dreamtime stories of "cats" here. Others claim some may have escaped or were released. You need to understand how a population increase dynamic of a non native species works before you put too much faith in any of the stories that are out there. Added to all of the escaped or released animal stories are also a whole lot of feral animals. Can a feral animal grow to be large enough to look like a big cat? I think that depends a lot on how much adrenaline is flowing and how well you can determine a size on something a good distance away and moving to get away from you in a timeframe measured in seconds most of the time..... As for paw prints, a recent newspaper article indicates how easily they can be misidentified (my humble opinion which is subject to change without prior notice!).

So, a lot of the stories may be suspect, a lot of the sightings may be size over estimated and a lot of the paw prints misidentified.................. until you see some that Mike and Ruby have (photos in "the book"....lol) and it becomes more compelling that inside of all of the above information there is still something out there.....

I for one don't know what all may be out in the hills and plains, or how it got there, but I think I have a pretty good grasp of what a cat paw looks like and some prints here in Australia, (as illustrated in "the book") are as large as ones of mountain lions in the Southwest of the US that I have tracked.

So, from one who is still wondering, I have to tell ya Rusty, keep after it, be vigilant and have fun looking and read with a critical eye everything you can on the subject! It's a fascinating and maybe an obessive subject.

I for one wouldn't have it any other way!

Cheers

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:10 am
by Rusty2
Thank's Nopoly's ,
Sound's like there's no definite answer to how they got here . I was looking for our hairy friend's and happened to catch "this animal" on timelapse . I'll pass on any other stuff I capture .

Cheer's Rusty2................. :)

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:37 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Well what a day me and the kids were driveing along Gwydir river rd and saw a big black cat .About 150 m away crossing the road . It run along sized one of the white poles along the road and it was the same size so about 1m. Then it run into long grass I stop the car were it ran but I was not going to get out of the car and get a stick , poke aruond the long grass.

I been told a lot of storys about big black cats in the area but this was me and the kids frist time.

I'm not into the cat thing more the yowie (claps hands)

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:50 pm
by Rusty2
Nice one Yowie Mrx ,
Get's the hair standing up on the back of ya neck hey .
No footage ?
Hope eveything's o.k. with your family .

Cheer's Rusty2......................

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:00 pm
by The yowie Mrx
Hi Rust2 sorry no footage.The kids wanted to get out of the car at the time and me NO WAY IN HELL.
I shot some big ferels in my time but I never see one 1m tall and about 2.5 long before.
And before some one says what tipe of gun (222). I no a 222 is not big a nuff for a 2.5m long big cat (guns pose)

Cheer's Mrx

Re: Moggy ??????

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:31 pm
by sirwin
I've seen a large black cat just outside Tamworth towards Dungowan.

I was travelling with my family into town one frosty morning in June/July 2006. On the sunny side of the road there was tall grass about as high as the white road markers, and sitting in the grass I saw the head and shoulders of a large cat sunning itself. I told my Dad I saw a large cat and we turned the car around to see if he could get a look also but the cat was gone. Imagine seeing that, a cat head and shoulders taller than a road marker.

The next year we had a cat hanging around the property harassing our house cat. One afternoon it got cocky and decided to sit up on a fence post in the paddock out the back. My Dad grabbed the 22LR, firing subsonic ammo, and dropped it with a shot to the chest. This cat would have been about the size of a small dog.

Not long after this cat, we had a white one hanging around the property. It attacked our cat on the back verandah and when it heard the commotion of us inside readying the 22LR again, it took off around the house. It tried to make a break across the back yard but my Dad shot it with a couple of shots. This cat was much larger. It would have been about the size of a medium dog and weighed a lot. I could barely lift it with one arm.

Well, yeah... there's my cat stories. I don't need convincing there are wild cats out there, in relatively close proximity to homes and humans, over the 1 meter mark.