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Hi all

After Shazzoirs really cool thermal link I found another great clip on you tube. The Guys name is Christopher Noel and his You tube channel Impossible visits has other interesting clips on the squatch. It really illustrates how close these creatures and I suspect the Yowie get to the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/user/impossiblev ... 4tn6VyHjjg
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Thanks for the Post Buck.

Thermal is a great asset for researchers in the field, there's no doubt about that. It discriminates nicely in comparison to NV at distances and with the target hidden in the thicket.

Problem is the clarity issue. It can be picked to pieces by anyone who chooses to scrutinise and leaves a wide open door for skeptics, if being used as 'proof'.

However again, still a useful device. Prices are coming down and Manufacturers in China are now beginning to produce their own versions. An acquaintance of mine in the U.S. brought himself a model second hand for $800 that seems to have a good result.

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Thats what ive been waiting to hear Dean, i seriously want this technology to top off my arsenal, am hitting the field trips in a big way next year along with Nick and Yowie88 out in ArhnemLand, ....please santa i want an affordable Thermal Cam
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Buck and Topender;

Just a thought before you drop several thousand dollars on a thermal imaging system. They are a lot of money and sometimes not that robust in a bumpy place. Consider one of those "laser" style non contact thermometers. They can give you a very fast change in the heat signature of a target from the surrounding area and some are said to be able to reach out to around 30 meters (check the product specifications). I'm told large pongids..... gorillas... have a temp in the 35.5deg C (95.9F) as a temp range if that helps http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17679523. The red light aiming pointer may be a concern as well as the foliage in between you and the target (foliage can also interrupt a thermal imager also, no matter what the marketing people say).

I know this is a left field response to the thermal imager issue, but if I had to drop a thermal imager to jump in the car........ it would be qustionable. With a thermometer I would be willing to throw it and jump without questions (yeah, not only am I cheap, but stingy too....lol).

If you know an interested electro-optical person, there is a paper I read recently that used the sensors from PIR modules (those motion alarm things you see in stores) that showed some promise but they are slow, low res, questionable sensitivity and hand built at this point. The good news is you can build them for under $100.00 if you buy your friend enough beer.... or Mike & Rebecca's book, heheheh

Dean is absolutely correct, a white blob won't be "evidence" unless you already know. It will however allow you to be more aware of the "tactical environment" you find yourself in while walking through the dark places. Not all thermal imagers have video ability or even a video output to grab it, be careful of what you read.

Another aside if I may, if you have a video camera that has a "nightshot" ability of some type, putting an IR pass filter in front of the lens with the IR nightshot mode enabled seems to work well to even out dark areas in heavy cover like thick bush during daylight or dawn/dusk times it also seems to me to highlight forms like warm bodies etc..... but I need to try out a couple more runs on this before I commit to that last statement. At night unless you have a high power IR source, you won't see very far infront of you as I'm sure you already know. That may be the least expensive option of all.

Good Luck and I wanna see the pics and video !!


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Thanks guys

I would love to be able to find a link to the cheap chinese versions. Here's a link to an aussie company with I guess what would be a wish list of equipment.

http://www.nightvision.com.au/groups.ph ... al_Imaging

I already have agreat HD cam which cost a shade over 5k but the last time I took it out into the field I found a little too big to trek and shoot. I have used a smaller sony with it's night shot but it works on IR emission and enough people have said that IR emittive devices seem to be detected by them.

After seeing the crouching sas, hidden squatch in the above link it would be near impossible to get it on normal night vision cameras.

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cheap one's

www.oo.com.au I get a lot of stuff from them.
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ive got one of those Bushnell,s, which does a reasonable job, but does not have the power to penetrate for any distance, ive used it in caves that ive been exploring in the Roper Gulf part of the NT, it's performance in the scrub is only good for about 15 mtrs, i am always on the lookout for something better.
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Thats a great clip by Christopher!
I wonder, was he scanning for another reason or did they hear anything of the creature creeping up on them (how did he come to decide he was looking at a sasquatch?)?. It looks to be quite close to the fire site! Would love to hear more about that evening.. how long they knew about this figure... what other visuals or sounds they encountered. Did they get up and leave this figure still peering at them, or did the figure disappear first??
So many more questions arise when its not just a fleeting encounter!!
Gives me goosebumps thinking about them being spied on from so close! Particularly by something that was possibly twice (?) their size!!
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Hi Selkiedarre

He said somewhere in the clip he just moved away from the fire and pointed the camera at the tree line, which is beyond the pile of wood. He mentioned that the camera doesn't allow him to see what's being filmed and it's only on reviewing the tape that he was aware of anything being there at all. I'm guessing that the type of thermal camera he has, might be one that would be patched into a monitor like a security camera. Being out in the woods it might be hard to rig all that up.

I find it fascinating that it has come in so close and is so low to the ground.
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Of course Buck, I do recall him saying that now. Got too wrapped up in the subsequent analysis, forgot the start.

Can you guys imagine what it would be like to have an evening outside, hanging out, to see such footage afterwards suggesting this may have been a sasquatch there the whole time.

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Saw this vid somewhere a while back where they analyzed it in depth, the "arm" ended up being a cat, ferret or squirrel I can not remember which

But the "hand" end was just the head of the animal looking around, its actually quite obvious its not an "arm" when it moves position, the animal is now just front on to the camera (so the bigfoot is not magically missing the middle of its arm heheh)

I cant remember what they said the "eyes" were, but personally that vid never struck me as it being a sasquatch

The other thermal video posted on here however, now that was some good footage! if you haven't seen it already you should go check it out.
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Hi Sealo

Could you post the link to where you saw this vid being analysed. That would be great.

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Hi Buck,

I will have a look for it mate, I cant remember exactly what show it was ( i watch, listen and read anything i can get my hands on sasquatch/yowie related hahah)

will post it here if i can find it online somewhere :)

Edit: here is a small read on the vid,

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptotourism/mike-solved/
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Thanks for the link Sealo.

It's a shame that elements of this story, impact and tar the efforts of others in the field. Still tracking down cheap thermal cameras... I have the matching underwear :)

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