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MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:03 am
by horserider
Has anyone ever wondered how the human or yowie species origenated?
WELL.... if you read this page at the link below you may find some answers
It will also possibly be an answer to the link between "STRANGE LIGHTS IN THE SKY" & Yowie sightings
GUYS ITS A MUST READ, PLEASE SURE UR THOUGHTS.. it also would link to strange lights in sky we see following yowie sightings
http://www.apollonius.net/nibiru.html
The video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7416&hl=en
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:24 pm
by The yowie Mrx
I seen this mob around before.Thay have a theory and then thay back it up with another theory.And then back it up with another theory.Followed with you gessed it, another theory.I for one don't buy what thay say.
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:11 pm
by Dean Harrison
I have always been interested in Sitchin and his views.
His books are well worth the time to read (My humble opinion). Plenty offered on Youtube also.
DMH
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:23 pm
by horserider
Well i think the theories are great
But i understand everyone likes different theories so thats all good we all have our reasons no problemo! I dont definately believe this one but do like it very much

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:31 pm
by The yowie Mrx
horserider you say :-But i understand everyone likes different theories ....

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:54 pm
by Dean Harrison
Most thinkers are well versed in Sitchin, one would have thought.
My theories and suppositions are mine. Those of which I will keep to myself because there are never any certainties with anything.
As with many researchers, I also have a very close bond with Lloyd Pye. We have been strong friends since the mid 90's and swap emails almost daily.
It is always advantageous to be increase your knowledge on all these subjects. No right or wrong, but being open minded and learning all views is so interesting.
DMH
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:45 pm
by horserider
Most definately Mrx, we all have our own likes for theories.... and hey some of us even like a theory for a while than bin it so nothing wrong with disagreeing, & nothing like a good debate too sometimes because it often brings out even more that could be possible.
Its great, & my mind is so open I like to think ANYTHING is possible because at the end of the day... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE & just that is one of the things that intrigues me in this subject.
Dean has me thinking now.. would love to look into his mind & see what the theory is he has.. who knows maybe one day he will tell us!

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:13 pm
by Dean Harrison
My opinion, supposition, assumption or theory is irreverent on this particular subject.
The freedom of interesting thoughts and contributions on various subjects from other people is what's more pertinent, and far more interesting than mine :-)
DMH
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:01 pm
by horserider
awwww thats so nice
Its true everyone elses opinions can always be more interesting than our own but that means yours is interesting too because you are also a "everyone else" to someone else so that makes yours interesting already just in that sense let alone the depth you have researched
But you dont have to tell us, we are already entertained with the wealth of info you have brought us already!! Its great!!!

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 pm
by horserider
hey guys
Just wanted to bring this thread back alive as i am heavily leaning towards this theory now based on my own research & reasons which i cant expand on too much on here if that makes sense
Loved this theory & am discovering it may hold some if not alot of truth
Here's the video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7416&hl=en
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:32 pm
by Rusty2
Hey horserider !
I had a very profound upbringing with the bible . No I'm not going to start preaching , BUT , the bible refer's to these giants as the " nephilem ".
The angel's found the women of earth desirable and came down to .............do stuff with them .....ya know what I mean . This is where the nephilem came from , and's it's where the story of david and goliath came from .
As for where yowie's/bigfoot etc came from , I dont remember the bible mention that the sasquatch and yowie's were hearded onto the ark .

But the bible mention's the " beast's of the forest's " .
Obviously these are my own thought's and dont wish to push them on anyone else .
I see the stange lights story has got you doing some research .

I totally agree , " anything is possible " .
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:10 pm
by Dion
Hey Rusty
We think alike mate, this maybe a bit off topic

but I believe the “sons of God” that the bible speaks of that came down and mingled with the seed of man and created the giants is none other than what people perceive as Aliens or better termed Fallen Angels.
I believe Fallen Angels are indeed Aliens and they corrupted the seed of man and its still going on today with the abduction phenomena and making hybrids.
Anyway I won’t go on about that too much as its off topic.
I haven’t watched the video that Horserider put up but I am guessing your statement had something to do with the video.
Anyway champ It would be great to meet up with you one day we could have a really good conversation on all things Yowie and other things if you get my drift.
Cheers mate.
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:15 pm
by Jo Blose
"Astronomers in general believe that Nibiru exists only in the fears of the credulous and have made efforts to inform the public that there is no threat to Earth in 2012." Wikipedia
It appears this planet "Nibiru" has been likened to "planet X", both of which have been associated with doomsday theories of an unknown and officially unrecognised planet bumping real close to ours every 3600 years and dropping off it's monsterous inhabitants? In the process it causes pole reversal and cataclysmic times. Am I on the right track?
I read an amusing comic book as a youth which had the same plot device. It was called, "Off on a Comet" which was about a comet which regularly visits Earth by crashing into it and taking away with it massive portions of Earth real estate including the portion's Earthly inhabitants, for a galactic trip around the sun and then returns it all. Great story!!!
I'm of the current opinion this theory by Sitchin needs stitchin to hold it together!
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:32 pm
by SAB 8
We think alike mate, this maybe a bit off topic but I believe the “sons of God” that the bible speaks of that came down and mingled with the seed of man and created the giants is none other than what people perceive as Aliens or better termed Fallen Angels.
Sorry but I am going off topic here as well

. Maybe we should transfer this to the UFO forum? D mate, I have been biting my tongue on this for a few posts now. I 100% totally and utterly disagree with your conclusions about ETs.... I just don`t see any evidence in the research or literature which supports the notion that ETs are some demonic-negative force. I feel you have based a lot of this belief on one author`s work who in my opinion has a history of presenting very, very questionable material. I am not alone in that belief as many of his peers in the field have not only shown concerns with his research but have also been heavily critical. I will not name this researcher but Dion knows who I am talking about. By the same token I do not see any evidence supporting new-age notions of angelic ETs about to intervene and rescue humanity from itself. My personal and current opinion is that we are a dealing with a wide spectrum of intelligences (and yes some may not be what we deem benevolent) from a variety of origins and with a variety of intentions. But to say that ALL UFOs or ETs are evil..... is in my opinion simplyfying or pigeonholing the topic too far. Plus, I just haven`t seen any BODY of corroborating evidence/material to support such a belief.
I believe Fallen Angels are indeed Aliens and they corrupted the seed of man and its still going on today with the abduction phenomena and making hybrids.
Again mate, I apologise if this offends, but this statement really reminds me of what one would expect to hear from a christian fundamentalist... where anything and everything outside of conventional knowledge (eg. UFOs, ghosts, paranormal) is the work of the devil!!! I personally think this is a dangerous, dangerous pathway of thinking. I am actually a little alarmed that you seem to be heading in this direction! I see no evidence of evil aliens in the abduction phenomenon. If anything, it all reminds me of how a biologist or scientist would study an endangered species. We go into the field, tranquilise them, put them out, medically evaluate, attempt breeding programs, then when we are done, return them to their environment attempting to minimise the amount of interference we have on the creature/s life..... so does that make the biologist an evil being????? On the contrary, he is very much benevolent towards the species... however, the individual animal will probably be quite traumatised from its encounter and forever associate humans with negative outcomes!!
Also I do not hold much credence in researching possible paranormal material sourced from the bible.... My concern is how can we be certain about the source of the material???? How do we know that the bible has not been manipulated or altered by priestly authorities and scholars over the centuries to fit their laws, belief systems and/or teachings??? Not to mention it is full of contradictions. If one was to believe the bible word by word then we have one very confused and contradictory God on our hands. I say this having been brought up through the catholic school system... I was even an altar boy at primary school (and no I wasn`t touched

) so am very familiar with the various forms of Christian teachings. All in all it is an interesting field but I don`t find much value in it when it comes to determining the true nature of paranormal phenomena. Just my two cents anyway?
I'm of the current opinion this theory by Sitchin needs stitchin to hold it together!
I agree Joe. In regards to Planet X, as far as I can see there is no CONVINCING evidence to back it up.... in all honesty I find it very questionable material which detracts from the more plausible, evidence-based aspects of the UFO phenomenon. I guess I am lucky as I have access to the entire MUFON/CUFOS journal database... as well as hundreds of UFO books and magazines. That being said you can rest assured that Stitchin and other Planet X advocates have been heavily criticised and questioned by what I consider to be well-credentialed and highly respected UFOlogists.
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:46 pm
by horserider
By the sounds of things, some of you are familiar with the angels that came down here to do there stuff & breed...
The "strange lights" got me researching again
Im not following Christianity or Sitchin, in fact i liked the beginning of this vid, not really into the doomsday part of it.
My own intense research which has been going on for yrs which i have kept to myself for private reasons has brought me to theories similar to whats in this vid... and although im not religious i have to hold some respect for the bible considering its an old, very old, ancient book of history / possible knowledge on the past / maybe clues on the past?
But hey... each is entitled to there own beliefs & opinions i respect that...
Im going to sit quiet now & watch what unravels in this thread.. so if i go quiet dont be offended Im just watching & waiting to see what comes out
Dion that would be good, we wouldnt take a breath in one of these chats

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:06 am
by SAB 8
OH.. AND as for fallen angels etc... Here's a liitle bit for you... there would be good & bad angels exactly as Dion said influencing bad & good. We, I believe are a combination of both. The giants / aliens / angels what ever you want to call it i would say were the good seed.. hence why they call them angels, hence it makes sense that they used to come down here many years ago helping us do certain "stuff" so to speak, AND they came from different planets too.. they didnt just fall out of the sky... they fell out of the sky from differnt stars.. falling being flew, flew in spacecraft from different planets visiting the earth... perhaps the bad aliens came to take & hurt & the good came here & defended us? okay im going to shut up now ive said too much! Bye for now! I shall watch this thread & see what comes out of it but say nothing more! Sorry guys enjoy chatting ill be reading & watching hehe
Ok no worries, all I am trying to do here is employ a little critical thinking..... I love people with open minds but sometimes I feel people can open their minds too far. It is important to try and maintain a little balance and question one`s own beliefs. I am constantly evaluating and reviewing the material I take on board. As a result my beliefs systems in regards to the 'bigger picture' of life are constantly changing or evolving. What I ask is what body of work, literature or evidence are you basing this theory or belief system? I am not attempting to debunk or be overly sceptical. Hell, I believe in UFOs, I believe in yowies, I believe in the existence of an afterlife!! In saying that, I also like to think I critically evaluate the material available to justify my personal beliefs.
The theory that human genetics or evolution may have been altered in ancient times by a higher intelligence is quite possible. Why not? When one realises that there are star systems billions of years older than our own which may inhabit life then one realises the possibilities are endless? Even our own scientists are seriously considering the possibilities of tinkering with the natural progress of other planets. For example, the discussion and research involving the terraforming of other planets to make them more habitable by humans
http://quest.nasa.gov/mars/background/terra.html
If you consider that some species may be thousands, millions even billions of years in advance of our current state of development then the notion that these more advanced intelligences may create and/or interact with the evolutionary processes of other intelligence species is quite possible. I am not discounting the possibility. However, there are also a hundred other quite plausible possibilities.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that before I believe something to be so, I need what I consider to be a body of plausible, corroborating research and/or evidence to feel comfortable with such a belief. I`m not so much questioning the POSSIBILITY of the theory or belief you have put forth, I am questioning the evidence or body of material which supports it to be the true reality. There are no doubt interesting subjects, mysteries and puzzles regarding our ancient history, but I haven`t been convinced that one particular theory is the true reality. In saying that, I am no expert and am no doubtedly ignorant to many avenues of research in this field. After all, its almost impossible to keep on top of the huge array of research going on these days. So, if you have some smoking gun evidence you feel adds SOLID weight to your belief then feel free to share it.
I feel at times we need to critically look at our own beliefs or theories (not dismissing them but looking at them from different avenues), because make no mistake, others will, and they will be less diplomatic in debating the material. In my personal experience it is much better to share criticisms or debate with a friend rather than a foe!

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:39 am
by Dion
SAB 8 wrote:OH.. AND as for fallen angels etc... Here's a liitle bit for you... there would be good & bad angels exactly as Dion said influencing bad & good. We, I believe are a combination of both. The giants / aliens / angels what ever you want to call it i would say were the good seed.. hence why they call them angels, hence it makes sense that they used to come down here many years ago helping us do certain "stuff" so to speak, AND they came from different planets too.. they didnt just fall out of the sky... they fell out of the sky from differnt stars.. falling being flew, flew in spacecraft from different planets visiting the earth... perhaps the bad aliens came to take & hurt & the good came here & defended us? okay im going to shut up now ive said too much! Bye for now! I shall watch this thread & see what comes out of it but say nothing more! Sorry guys enjoy chatting ill be reading & watching hehe
Hey SAB 8
Can I ask where you got this quote from?
BTW: Topic Moved to its rightful home
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:39 am
by SAB 8
BTW: Topic Moved to its rightful home
Yer cheers with the move I was going to do it last night but wanted to check if another mod agreed with moving it.
Can I ask where you got this quote from?
???? That was up last night when I was making a reply to Horserider... must have been edited????
Sorry about the disagreement mate but I feel pretty strongly about the subject material.... I`m sure we`ll have plenty of time to go over it in more depth next week.

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:41 am
by horserider
Thanks Dion, i have to agree there... although i believe this topic does perhaps maybe have a link to yowies, its definately way too ET to still be sitting under yowies now tee hee unless someones seen a yowie flying a space ship yet????
hmmm maybe i shouldnt joke, maybe thats the next thing someone will see!!!! as i said before, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
Ah & regarding the edit.. i had some info in there i felt was too much so removed some lol, as for fallen angels idont remember now if they used that quote in this video & i cant re download it, does anyone know if it was in this vid i cant remember as i watched this vid ages ago & only watched a little of it the other night
I guess people are using the term fallen angels just as a way to say aliens landing?
SAB8 regarding subject material if you mean the video i do agree with you that it isnt the best video but i put it up because they describe the giants side of it & there coming down to earth which is something i am very much leaning towards for a few reasons.
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:52 am
by horserider
Sorry SAB 8 i only just saw the previous post
Well I dont blame you for not believing or liking this one because it is very far out there yes
And yes people do need a body of evidence or information to want to like this.
Unfortunately i cant say alot on here
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:57 am
by Dion
Hey Guys
Just to clarify I am not the only one with similar views to them being Demonic.
Here are some quotes from some well-respected UFO researchers that claim UFO are Deceptive and Demonic. People who have been in the UFO game for many years. Make of it as you will.
http://www.mt.net/~watcher/quotes.html
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:11 am
by horserider
Havent read Dions attachment yet but what i can say
What goes up must come down... There is black & there is white, there are good dogs & bad ones, there are good cars & bad ones, there are great horses & really bad ones, there are good days & bad days, there are good souls there are bad souls, there are good aliens there are bad aliens. okay so catch my drift? "Demonic"... what does demonic mean anyway? That they are wicked & play tricks? I could say the same about some horses ive ridden that have played tricks & almost killed people in the process

Good.... bad..... good.... bad..... not sure why people choose to label them all as bad. That would be like labelling a nationality as all bad.. there are good there are bad in every race every country & how about every planet?... & keep in mind, we all come from the same planet & are a mix of good & bad.. these aliens may not even all be coming from the same star, come on guys, there's Bzillion stars out there
It would be like if we went up there & attacked a few aliens on a planet & than they labelled humans as all bad demonic harmful aliens. Broaden your horizon

I agree with sab8 , great example you used regarding the tranquilizing of animals etc, & love the fact you mentioned that some of those stars are billions of years more advanced than us,

And just because some things may read about certain stuff that they are demonic it doesnt mean they are demonic, no one should be afraid of anything thats too secret, unreveiled, or too powerful to comprehend, dont let that make you feel its demonic. Not aiming that at anyone particular but in case a reader has that running through there mind... keep your minds open... happy reading...
Okay i promised myself im saying no more so im stopping now

LOL
Keep in mind also that some researchers keep there information to themselves for reasons beyond anyones imagination

Lol not talking about myself ive just done my own research..
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:47 pm
by Nemo
Hi All, have been reading the debate on this link with alot of interest. I done an assignment on aliens at university many years ago and plowed through a lot of released data from US and UK governments then moved to on to some of the published stuff that you have talked about. Have tried to keep up with more recent books and theories because like everyone here I find the stuff interesting. At the risk of sounding like the ultimate fence sitter, has anyone stopped to think that everyone might be a little bit right. Going on the information to date not all aliens originate from the same place or have the same motives. Adding in the possibility of some thing paranormal and evil using the freindly alien approach to get close to some one is not a far out theorie either. I'm not as articulate as most of you but all I'm trying to say is that I don.t think any single theory is bang on the money. No disrespect ment to anyone.
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:45 pm
by Dion
Hey Nemo
Your right, I think arguments from both sides could be put together to make a whole.
Here are some links for people SAB 8 has already seen these apart from the bottom one:
http://www.bibleufo.com/fallen.htm
http://www.alienresistance.org/
http://www.bibleufo.com/index.htm
http://thestrongdelusion.com/
http://thestrongdelusion.com/index.php? ... 5&Itemid=9
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:10 pm
by horserider
yay you all agree with me than really! Because as i said there is good there is bad!!

Not all are bad!
Fence sitting i love, its great , good for you!! All works for me too!!!!
Does anyone know about the many different alien species that have shown in much egyptian cave art?
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:01 pm
by jeffa
horserider wrote:yay you all agree with me than really! Because as i said there is good there is bad!!

Not all are bad!
Fence sitting i love, its great , good for you!! All works for me too!!!!
Does anyone know about the many different alien species that have shown in much egyptian cave art?
Found this for you Horserider, Hope you enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMgNj1h- ... re=related
Good topic by the way guys.
Hey Nemo, have you any thoughts regarding why they are around? (if thats how I should put it), pending on species that is?
And any other cool info that you have put together in your studies as I would love to learn more.
Cheers
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:57 pm
by horserider
Hi Jeffa just about to watch the video... just so you know when i was asking if anyone knew of different species I was asking to see who else knew not because i didnt know bahaha i have a funny way of wording things, lol, but thank you so much for the video look forward to it, ive just plugged in the earphones & bout to watch it!!!!

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:34 pm
by horserider
Jeffa this video ROCKS!! Im watching it third time in a row

Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by horserider
The earth is such an awkward planet... so confused, so much to be learned, too much unknown, & so advanced in their view yet perhaps so very old style to some other planets
Re: MUST READ LINK may find some answers here
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:27 pm
by horserider
Imagine this for a second ... what if we were created as slaves/servants for the Annanuki or the like.. & what if there is eternal life but for them only & we were designed to be disposed of because we get old & wasted & become useless...??