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Unfortunately the said photos, are hoaxed. Simply plagiarised/copied from Media leading back over 10 years ago.

Many of us had uneasy feelings regarding the photos and story surrounding the pictures, and as such, searched high and low through all manner of Cryptozoology and Palaeontology books and films over the past 24 months.

I had never endorsed the book, nor the photos, and stated I would not unless the negatives were located and authenticated.

We temporarily placed the book on our home page, as we would be expected due to its nature.

Alarmingly, we found new information regarding the initial story pertaining to these pictures Brett had claimed to have shot, and it had shifted significantly over a period of 13 years.



Again we were perplexed, and of course further investigation was required.



Sadly, our investigation has now revealed the photos to be hoaxed. Just by chance, the background looked remarkably similar to the location where I was hit in 2009, which kept us initially interested.

After spending two years at the location trying to piece each photo together with the background landscape and trying to patch them with the story, we are very thankful we now have closure.




DMH

That's disappointing Dean for yourself to find out you were lied to from the start and for what...........a couple of book sales .

May I ask where Brett plagiarised/copied the pics from ?

G’day Dean,

If you remember, even without having seen the photographs, because it was not allowed and relying exclusively upon the detailed “encounter” description, as supplied by Brett Green, I gave my opinion that this was a hoax. My reasons were based upon a number of incongruities and unlikely events as stated by the witness which were extremely inconsistent with dooligahl behaviour. Foremost of these improbabilities was the supposed opportunity to observe a number of these hominoids, at close range, unobstructed and during daylight, without having been detected but still allowing sufficient opportunities for them to be observed and photographed. There were other issues as well. For me, seeing the photographs at a later date was simply confirmation of this ruse.

Dean Harrison wrote:Unfortunately the said photos, are hoaxed. Simply plagiarised/copied from Media leading back over 10 years ago.

It would benefit the reputations of the broader research community if you could post Brett Green’s photographs together with the original source photographs that these images were copied from? Such evidence would further assist in clarifying the matter.

Neil

Hi Neil and Rusty,

Attached are two of the photos in question




DMH

G'day Dean,

Seems extremely damning evidence! Thanks.

Neil

Brett's amazing trilogy of lie's .

I'm sure the bbc would like to know about this . Copyright infringements for starters . Is this fraud ??

Thanks Neil & Rusty,

We have put nearly 2 years research into finding the truth regarding the photos and story. We have collected enough information to write a book, about - the book.....

And we also have to give Credit to Gary Opit, whom I had lunch with at Broadbeach a few Weeks ago.




DMH

Congrats to Dean and the crew for putting in the effort to investigate thoroughly, and just as importantly, making the results of the investigation public.

As an aside, I'd wondered if that was the source, I waded through a few of the episodes looking for "the smoking frame" but never found quite the right fit (although a few of the Australopithecus scenes looked pretty similar...).

Great work Dean & crew

The most frustrating thing from this type of BS is the wasted time and resources required to rought these boneheads out it's time that could be spent in the pursuit of real evidence.

Good work guys. It's a shame that people can go to such effort to hoax people.

Hi Tim,

We had compiled a large amount of background material, Gary came up with 2 pics in Ep. 3 of the series and Steve found some in Ep.4.

Yes Al, it was exhausting. Exhausting and fundamentally disappointing.


The investigation was an undercurrent of which we never spoke of publicly.


The less we said, the best situated we were.


DMH

G’day,

Some of the members will remember Mike William’s posts on Brett Green’s book. The following Youtube video and extensive comments are worth a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLdJ4r-zYhM

Neil

G’day Dean,

What a shame that Night Stalker was not able to expose this hoax himself, despite devoting a very substantial part of his internet life in attempting to uncover such frauds, using his investigatory skills! He must feel that he has waisted a great deal of time and effort.

What a missed opportunity! Ed, should be very disappointed with yourself, simply because everyone else knew the truth for a considerable period of time!

In his defense, Ed will most likely quote cases from the past, including the Gympie examples. He will claim that all researchers are hoaxers and that Bret Green is inclusive of this set, rather than a subset. He will probably express or quote some preemptive doubt about this hoax. New evidence, outside the current set, will be news to him - for example, Sir Bret.

What is worse is that most researchers already knew the reality and were conducting an extensive and lengthy investigation to confirm the evidence, rather than adopting a simple reactive and irrational approach. Clearly, this forum is capable of ratting out its own transgressions, given time.

Ed, get your act together! Your a slacker!

Neil

Im disgusted and left feeling rather gobsmacked at the minute over this news.
I never suspected for a second that Brett could be so deceitful, much like everyone else here Im guessing. Chatting with him was always a pleasure for me, never rude and just an all round good guy.....
This is just down right heart breaking

Once again fortune vomits on our eiderdown, to lightheartedly quote Blackadder. Seriously though, this is just the worst kind of thing to find out about, but in a way, I'm glad so many of you are hard-nosed and with just enough skepticism to want to see hard evidence, even though that evidence turns out to be falsified.

Pretty sure that this is the nail in Brett's coffin vis a vis his history of Yowie literature, and while I didn't know the guy, I'd heard of previous unrest surrounding his name, so I suppose it pays to hesitate. Good work Dean and Co. Sad result, but better the info is out there than others be fooled.

Shazz

Tales of the Arabian Knights
Tales from the Crypt
The Tales of Beatrix Potter
Grimm's Fairy Tales
Tales from the darkside (Tv series)
Old Wives Tales
Marvel Tales
Strange Tales
Tales To Astonish
Vampire Tales
Tales of Suspense
Tales from Beyond Science
Incubus Tales
Weird War Tales
Weird Western Tales
Ghostly Tales
True Love Comics Tales
Tales from the Boneyard
Tales of the City
Tall Tales (Books)
Traveler's Tales (Publishing House)
The Canterbury Tales
Tiger Tales Books (Publishing House)

What's the two common denominators with each book title?

It depends I suppose, what's your point?

My point is, in a playful way, the author was actually up front and people who purchased the book purely for the "evidence", are being overly harsh. Those who were following behind the scenes should also cool their jets.

The choice of the word "Tales" in a book title is critical here and was overlooked in this instance by myself and many others. Perhaps many of us didn't want to acknowledge that word's presence or just chose to ignore it. The only other books I could find with the word "Tales" in the title, are clear works of fiction. It's absolutely the last word in the dictionary you would want to include in the title of a book of deemed true stories unless the author is winking at the reader for some hidden reason. Either the author knows all the stories are fiction or knows there is a thread of truth to the stories but by using the word "Tales" is his way of refusing to commit one way or the other.

Upon the book's launch, at least two of the stories were deemed to be totally true as they were first hand accounts from the author himself, with one story backed with photos. With the photos exposed for what they really are, all the stories are now anecdotal and those two stories are suspect. The definition of the word "tales" thus must move away from being accounts of people's experiences, and towards the mainstrean usage of the word being stories of exciting and dramatic, imaginary events.

As we can now see, there was good reason for choosing to use the word, "Tales".

As a prologue, when we allow the power of belief and wanting to believe to take front seat, we can be blinded to the obvious.

Scarts wrote:My point is, in a playful way, the author was actually up front....

Well looking at the flyer etc again now, well after the fact, I can see how someone could try to make that argument - but - that's definitely not the impression that was given at the time, in particular by Brett and yourself.

Eg:

BJGreen wrote:...
The book Yowie Tales was designed as a general read for the public to help them understand the stories behind the legend and is in no way controversial.
All I am going to say is that the cover image was taken from a genuine photograph from 1998; verified; and has been kept under "wraps"since then along with 3 others.
...

Jo Blose wrote:I'm more than a little disappointed by some of the comments above which condemn an author's works based purely on someone else's opinion.

The book in question is fully referenced and devoid of opinions passed as facts...

But yeah, you're right, maybe that word in the title should have rung more bells than it did.

Scarts wrote:
As we can now see, there was good reason for choosing to use the word, "Tales".

As a prologue, when we allow the power of belief and wanting to believe to take front seat, we can be blinded to the obvious.

G'day Scarts,

Everyone I know has moved on from this. The general feedback I have recieved from long term members of this forum probably added up to this. Perhaps using the word 'tales' was a veiled wink at fiction but it was definitely a work of deception aimed at a target audience. In fact from memory pre-orders were advertised here. I still view this forum as a serious discussion about a real phenomenon. To promote a work for financial gain with previously copyrighted re-produced images as the 'bait' was simply promoting a hoax. Nothing more. We can lump this one in with the Gympie pyramid...

Yeah, I wonder what came first - an idea ready to go waiting for some footage to fit, or watching the show and realising that the location resemblance was striking...

Either way, it must have made it all the harder to track back.