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A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:38 pm
by paulmcleod67
A: Where do you think would be the best location in Australia to launch a long term expedition, encompassing something along the lines of
a base encampment (from which to mount equipped, outreaching search parties) and for the base camp to be set up and manned constantly (rotating volunteer roster?).

B: What technical equipment would be needed for such an en devour? (Any chance of a list on this)

C: Should or could, an primatologist or anthropologist be contracted/ approached or be persuaded to become involved in said expedition?

D: Any opinions as to weather or not crowd funding could help cover costs this hypothetical expedition.

E: What would be needed to apply for a grant for partial costs of said hypothetical expedition.

F: Has anybody or any organisation tried such an ambitious long term search?


I really think it's the right time to start considering the above from a practicle application p.o.v

What say ye all?

Cheers

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:51 am
by paulmcleod67
Taking the idea further I've already begun to set up a crowd funding campaign via this site...

https://www.mycause.com.au/personal-cau ... Ahgt8P8HAQ

With the aim of attempting a major scientific search for the Australian yowie with all necessary field equipment funded by the people.

However there are a few major steps that I need help and or suggestions with such as a rewards system for contributors

and of course a goal amount to be reached, which is why I have asked those more experienced than myself for advice and or hands on assistance.

Those that are keen to help will be provided password access to the application on the site.

I'm pretty keen to have a go at this and will accept any and all help or suggestions as to how this proceeds.

Cheers and thanks guys.

Paul

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:04 am
by Scarts
Have you got your listening ears on, Paul?

Rex Gilroy carried out very large scale expeditions in the blue mountains in the seventies. Dean and others carried out large scale expeditions and ongoing researches in the late 90s and 2000s right up to 2011. I was part of it.

It has all been done before and lessons learnt.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Any expedition in a quest to expose the Dooligarl or Junjudee for all the world to see, is deemed an act of disrespect by them and will amount to nothing. You will gain nothing, but along with your precious time, will lose your sanity over time. If you choose to arrogantly persist, the Dooligarl or Junjudee will stop you in your tracks, but not in the way you'd think or like.

Think I'm pissing on your parade or your big boy boots just for the sake of it? Ask Dean about it, check out how Rex Gilroy is going these days, or any of the long-time Bigfoot researchers over in the States.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:58 am
by paulmcleod67
No offense matey but what's the point of any of this then? Stagnation into endless rhetoric and hoping some random person either runs one over or gets one on film running away into the distance? I don't question what you have expressed and I respect the experiences of all members here but I have to ask Is there a way forward on this subject?
I would certainly like some sort of real world answer as to what attacked myself and my fiancee in 2012? "My Big boy boots" is an odd thing to say, have I angered you in some way?

Cheers

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:32 am
by yowiedan
There is no area any better then others because i have found by doing overnight research at the same area on different occasions i have had alot of success then when i go back there totally nothing. So it proves they travel around searching for food. I have spots where i have had more success then others but i tend to not go there alot so i can continue having encounters there when i decide its time to research those areas again. Even though i do alot of field work during the day and nights our hairy mate is so hard to find. Most times we just get lucky or we get tips off people from recent sightings.So mate pick your area you think is the best from past or recent sightings and i wish you the best of luck.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:56 am
by VicYowieResearch
Scarts wrote:Have you got your listening ears on, Paul?

Rex Gilroy carried out very large scale expeditions in the blue mountains in the seventies. Dean and others carried out large scale expeditions and ongoing researches in the late 90s and 2000s right up to 2011. I was part of it.

It has all been done before and lessons learnt.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Any expedition in a quest to expose the Dooligarl or Junjudee for all the world to see, is deemed an act of disrespect by them and will amount to nothing. You will gain nothing, but along with your precious time, will lose your sanity over time. If you choose to arrogantly persist, the Dooligarl or Junjudee will stop you in your tracks, but not in the way you'd think or like.

Think I'm pissing on your parade or your big boy boots just for the sake of it? Ask Dean about it, check out how Rex Gilroy is going these days, or any of the long-time Bigfoot researchers over in the States.

Very well put Scarts. You will have far more luck by going quietly, showing respect, and allowing them to come to you. We are not the 'top dog' in the bush, not by a long shot!

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:01 pm
by VicYowieResearch
paulmcleod67 wrote:No offense matey but what's the point of any of this then?LOL!! Stagnation into endless rhetoric and hoping some random person either runs one over or gets one on film running away into the distance?IF even that! I don't question what you have expressed and I respect the experiences of all members here but I have to ask Is there a way forward on this subject?Considering whatever 'they' are, they are perfectly well aware of what cameras are, and are quite capable of destroying them from behind the lens I would respectfully suggest the obvious scientific reductionist method is doomed to fail.
I would certainly like some sort of real world answer as to what attacked myself and my fiancee in 2012?I would suggest that as you are alive, they did not want to kill you. You may have accidently pissed one off in someway. "My Big boy boots" is an odd thing to say, have I angered you in some way?

Cheers

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:25 pm
by Wolf
Thing is Paul, even if you managed to get that 'money shot' or amazing video of one up close and personal, Big Brother would step in real quick and discredit you and your footage, or shut you up with threats of jail time for some trumped up offence against the state... or even worse.

If you think you live in a 'free' society where the rule of 'Law' prevails I have some beachside property in Alice Springs to sell you. Big Brother can do whatever he likes to you regardless of the law, something I have experienced personally IN COURT where the 'law' is supposed to be pre-eminent!

The 'system' is all-powerful and WILL shut you up if you threaten the status quo in any way... whether it is proving a major flaw in the legal system or proving a relic hominid's contemporary existence. If you are lucky they will simply make you out to be a conman, fraud or mentally unstable and ruin your name in the controlled media. If you are unlucky you will simply disappear...

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:28 pm
by ChrisV
VicYowieResearch wrote:
paulmcleod67 wrote:No offense matey but what's the point of any of this then?LOL!! Stagnation into endless rhetoric and hoping some random person either runs one over or gets one on film running away into the distance?IF even that! I don't question what you have expressed and I respect the experiences of all members here but I have to ask Is there a way forward on this subject?Considering whatever 'they' are, they are perfectly well aware of what cameras are, and are quite capable of destroying them from behind the lens I would respectfully suggest the obvious scientific reductionist method is doomed to fail.
I would certainly like some sort of real world answer as to what attacked myself and my fiancee in 2012?I would suggest that as you are alive, they did not want to kill you. You may have accidently pissed one off in someway. "My Big boy boots" is an odd thing to say, have I angered you in some way?

Cheers
I think the heavy handed approach on Paul's question is a bit uncalled for.

Researching Flora and Fauna in the bush is a legitimate pass time. Understanding the subject matter is also vital. If there are Aboriginal or Spiritual issues to consider then the smart researcher will ack these apsects and work within their parameters. An idiot would ignore such things and suffer the consequences. I would not rate Paul in that crowd.

So yes it seems like some folks have gone out and researched the topic. Some famous - some not so. My question to those folks who have done it would be - was it worthwhile - what did you learn?
Obviously you believe something because your still on these forums discussing it....

We all know there is something going on out there.... I have been out there - I have had my experience. Would I do a long term research project, probably no as I have other things that take up my time but kudos to those who are willing to learn more....no matter what that is.

Respect to all researchers here.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:31 pm
by ChrisV
Wolf wrote:Thing is Paul, even if you managed to get that 'money shot' or amazing video of one up close and personal, Big Brother would step in real quick and discredit you and your footage, or shut you up with threats of jail time for some trumped up offence against the state... or even worse.

If you think you live in a 'free' society where the rule of 'Law' prevails I have some beachside property in Alice Springs to sell you. Big Brother can do whatever he likes to you regardless of the law, something I have experienced personally IN COURT where the 'law' is supposed to be pre-eminent!

The 'system' is all-powerful and WILL shut you up if you threaten the status quo in any way... whether it is proving a major flaw in the legal system or proving a relic hominid's contemporary existence. If you are lucky they will simply make you out to be a conman, fraud or mentally unstable and ruin your name in the controlled media. If you are unlucky you will simply disappear...

Wolf - You are correct.
The great revelation ( if that ever happens ) will just be shutdown, called a hoax or whatever and that will be that.

No different to the UFO thing.....
People know these beings are fact but its safer to keep it too ones self.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:34 pm
by AgeV
Well said (thumb up)

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:14 pm
by VicYowieResearch
ChrisV wrote:
VicYowieResearch wrote:
paulmcleod67 wrote:No offense matey but what's the point of any of this then?LOL!! Stagnation into endless rhetoric and hoping some random person either runs one over or gets one on film running away into the distance?IF even that! I don't question what you have expressed and I respect the experiences of all members here but I have to ask Is there a way forward on this subject?Considering whatever 'they' are, they are perfectly well aware of what cameras are, and are quite capable of destroying them from behind the lens I would respectfully suggest the obvious scientific reductionist method is doomed to fail.
I would certainly like some sort of real world answer as to what attacked myself and my fiancee in 2012?I would suggest that as you are alive, they did not want to kill you. You may have accidently pissed one off in someway. "My Big boy boots" is an odd thing to say, have I angered you in some way?

Cheers
I think the heavy handed approach on Paul's question is a bit uncalled for.

Researching Flora and Fauna in the bush is a legitimate pass time. Understanding the subject matter is also vital. If there are Aboriginal or Spiritual issues to consider then the smart researcher will ack these apsects and work within their parameters. An idiot would ignore such things and suffer the consequences. I would not rate Paul in that crowd.

So yes it seems like some folks have gone out and researched the topic. Some famous - some not so. My question to those folks who have done it would be - was it worthwhile - what did you learn?
Obviously you believe something because your still on these forums discussing it...


We all know there is something going on out there.... I have been out there - I have had my experience. Would I do a long term research project, probably no as I have other things that take up my time but kudos to those who are willing to learn more....no matter what that is.

Respect to all researchers here.
ChrisV I was not trying to be heavy handed, I just didn't want him to waste his $$$$$$$$ and time.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:56 pm
by adventurer
Good luck Paul--you do what you need to do. Others have done it and if you feel the need to do it too well good luck--truelly. I do believe though you need to get the answers for yourself. Forget acting like a hunter. I think you need to learn them, let them know your there as a friend and definitely let them come to you. If they feel u are a threat you WILL get nothing, i believe you said they have already harmed you, so there is no trust for starters. You will get nothing on film, you will get frustrated and you will feel you have wasted peoples time.

If im wrong and you are the one to get that 1 great photo--hoodoos to you.

I myself am doing a lot of research myself starting May, i know whats out there but i have a small group with me that wants to see what i see.They are not there to harm them, these people with me are calm and are willing to spend there time understanding yowies RULES so to speak.No trick cams or ir, just there own eyes to get the experience.

These creatures are truly amazing and if the world new what was really in our back yards it would be chaos.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:31 am
by Simon M
These people did what Paul's suggesting, and here's their report.

http://media.texasbigfoot.com/OP_paper_ ... 112015.pdf

It's interesting, but while I think the search for factual information is vital (and admirable) I doubt the 'powers that be' would ever let such facts come to light (as Wolf has said) unless there was money to be made, or it suited the agenda of the rich and powerful - and given the way most mining and logging companies routinely disregard and and all environmental concerns, I don't reckon it does suit their agenda. I think Yowies are just too much of a pain in their collective arse so they try to contain any information about them by tarring people with the 'lunatic fringe' brush if they speak up. If you make something laughable, it seems like less of a threat. People laughed at Trump and many still do...doesn't mean he isn't a threat in real world terms.

If the odd random person is killed or goes missing, the authorities don't care. If there's big money to be made they'll move heaven and earth to make it, but if it's more trouble than it's worth they won't lift a finger.

I've assumed for years that most national parks are just areas that the big mining companies have no interest in, or that state/territory governments keep that way for reasons of their own (tourism is lucrative for local governments, for example). It's also possible that there are areas which they know are full of Yowies and that the fewer people who go there or know about them the less hassle it will cause them ('conservation areas' and the like where only park rangers can go, etc).

It's impossible - in my view - that these things have gone totally unnoticed. It's just easier for the authorities to ignore them than to acknowledge them.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:33 am
by Simon M
* 'any and all'

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:02 am
by theloneranger
Come on. Youre giving Paul a bit of stick. Due to living in Germany i cant do any research of my own but i love reading all this stuff. But the fact that they "break cameras from behind" well put up 4 cameras to cover 360 degrees.

If they truely do exist someone will get a photo or video that cannot be disputed and with the internet out there the main stream media doesnt mean s#@t.

Good luck Paul. I hope its you that gets the shot. If not I will probably be moving back to sydney in a few years and i might get it :)

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:25 am
by VicYowieResearch
theloneranger wrote:Come on. Youre giving Paul a bit of stick. Due to living in Germany i cant do any research of my own but i love reading all this stuff. But the fact that they "break cameras from behind" well put up 4 cameras to cover 360 degrees. They thought of that, still destroyed the cameras!

If they truely do exist someone will get a photo or video that cannot be disputed and with the internet out there the main stream media doesnt mean s#@t. Still waiting for just ONE decent photo/video after all this time...

Good luck Paul. I hope its you that gets the shot. If not I will probably be moving back to sydney in a few years and i might get it :)

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:56 am
by AL Pitman
Paul
Do you mean by long term study base
To set up a camp in an area or (hot spot) kind of like a fossey, gorillas in the mist type base camp ?
If so I like this idea and your rotating occupation roster as well .
To expand , if a large military tent was set up you could run seminars with videos or powerpoints .
Spread the knowledge and make the general punter aware of whom or what they are sharing the bush with !!

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:45 am
by sensesonfire
All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:06 pm
by gregvalentine
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.
Just don't try that method with the wife!

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:20 pm
by MW83
Paulmcleod67:

It sounds like what you propose to do is very similar to what the NAWAC organisation in the US did with both Operation Forest Vigil and Operation Endurance:

http://woodape.org/index.php/our-resear ... rest-vigil

http://woodape.org/index.php/our-resear ... cts/206-oe

I would recommend trying this gear as well as wrapping any game cams in this stuff too, to minimise any electromagnetic signals being detected:

http://www.hecsllc.com/product

Best of luck with your efforts.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:30 pm
by Scarts
Paul, my big boy boots comment refers to the boots you put on literally and also metaphorically in your state of mind, whenever you go bush in search of the dooligarl or junjudee.

Instead of obsessing over what attacked you and your fiancee, start by writing down exactly what you and your fiancee were doing when you were attacked. Compare this information with the circumstances of similar reports.

If you want to learn what they are, I suggest you go quietly to a bush location where you have previously experienced them or others have. It goes without saying to always tell someone where you are going, what time you'll be leaving, and when you'll be getting home.

Divest yourself of all metal and technological devices, including phone and camera and go bush with a notebook and pencil, and ok, maybe your wrist watch. Soak in your surroundings and jot down notes or make sketches. Develop an interest in what's happening around you, and welcome any interaction with the dooligarl or junjudee. Next, be appreciative when you experience nothing and appreciative when you experience something. Be patient and persistent, and you will get results. Only an hour or two at a time is all you need.

I know it sounds like crazy hippy talk. Give it time, six weeks.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:16 pm
by Wolf
Scarts wrote:Paul, my big boy boots comment refers to the boots you put on literally and also metaphorically in your state of mind, whenever you go bush in search of the dooligarl or junjudee.
...cept he don't wear boots, only chinese slippers...
Scarts wrote: Instead of obsessing over what attacked you and your fiancee, start by writing down exactly what you and your fiancee were doing when you were attacked. Compare this information with the circumstances of similar reports.

If you want to learn what they are, I suggest you go quietly to a bush location where you have previously experienced them or others have. It goes without saying to always tell someone where you are going, what time you'll be leaving, and when you'll be getting home.

Divest yourself of all metal and technological devices, including phone and camera and go bush with a notebook and pencil, and ok, maybe your wrist watch. Soak in your surroundings and jot down notes or make sketches. Develop an interest in what's happening around you, and welcome any interaction with the dooligarl or junjudee. Next, be appreciative when you experience nothing and appreciative when you experience something. Be patient and persistent, and you will get results. Only an hour or two at a time is all you need.

I know it sounds like crazy hippy talk. Give it time, six weeks.
Well said... I have been planning on 'stealth camping' with that attitude in what I feel to be an excellent, inaccessible creek for a full week for over a year now. But life always gets in the way.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:05 pm
by Yowie bait
Wolf wrote:
Scarts wrote:Paul, my big boy boots comment refers to the boots you put on literally and also metaphorically in your state of mind, whenever you go bush in search of the dooligarl or junjudee.
...cept he don't wear boots, only chinese slippers...
Scarts wrote: Instead of obsessing over what attacked you and your fiancee, start by writing down exactly what you and your fiancee were doing when you were attacked. Compare this information with the circumstances of similar reports.

If you want to learn what they are, I suggest you go quietly to a bush location where you have previously experienced them or others have. It goes without saying to always tell someone where you are going, what time you'll be leaving, and when you'll be getting home.

Divest yourself of all metal and technological devices, including phone and camera and go bush with a notebook and pencil, and ok, maybe your wrist watch. Soak in your surroundings and jot down notes or make sketches. Develop an interest in what's happening around you, and welcome any interaction with the dooligarl or junjudee. Next, be appreciative when you experience nothing and appreciative when you experience something. Be patient and persistent, and you will get results. Only an hour or two at a time is all you need.

I know it sounds like crazy hippy talk. Give it time, six weeks.
Well said... I have been planning on 'stealth camping' with that attitude in what I feel to be an excellent, inaccessible creek for a full week for over a year now. But life always gets in the way.
I think thats a great approach if your not looking to prove anything. I go to a place fairly regular and also drop in for lunch or a few hours after work if im in the area.

Something interesting usually happens, even if its a goanna running about or watching some birds attack a snake or whatever. I was swapping rock stacks with something or someone for most of last year.

I occasionaly find garbage ( usually from the 80s) and go back and clear it out but leave anything i think a yowie may use. Lol.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:00 am
by Tim*
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:48 pm
by TrevorPeters
Tim* wrote:
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?

Hey Tim,
If you read through this topic you might be better informed on what Sensesonfire's position on these and other creatures might be.

Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti

Cheers
Trev

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:20 pm
by sensesonfire
Tim* wrote:
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?
Tim* wrote:
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?

Hi Tim,
Just like to re-phrase my above sentence. Apparently, Yowies prefer the term Bunyip, so, continue with the granite stones to get their attention and say ''If there are Bunyips present I command you to appear''. I'm certain it will work.

I've come to this conclusion (right or wrong), through listening to a program from the US where these two brothers were having constant visits from Bigfoot right up to the verandahs of their houses. They contacted a psychic who had converted to Christianity and she decided to pray with the brothers asking to rid the properties of these terrifying visits, apparently it worked as Bigfoot never put foot on the property again. They described hearing Bigfoot roaring like lions fighting in a hilly, forested area near the boundaries of their land. More related to the ''command'' though was the guys had noticed a tall, elderly woman strangely attired who had been traversing the land morning and late afternoon and seemingly interacting with the Bigfoots, being somewhat concerned about her well being they called out to her to stop but was always ignored. So one day they called out to her''I command you to stop''which brought an instant response. The woman stopped, turned and looked at them with the most evil look.

The brothers reported this to the psychic and her shock reply was she was not a woman but a demon.

I can give you the whole program if you are interested.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:42 pm
by Wolf
sensesonfire wrote:
Tim* wrote:
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?
Tim* wrote:
sensesonfire wrote:All you researchers out there how long have you been trying to find Yowies, capture a picture or video evidence? This I believe is not going to happen. Some of you have been fortunate enough to have intermittent contact with them all on Yowie terms. I personally have no desire to seek out any contact with any cryptozoological creature but if I was I would apply two strategies, firstly, two granite rocks (granite makes the most distinctive sound ) and secondly, and this is most important make a statement ''I command you to appear''. I know this sounds simplistic but it may just work.



Hi Senseonfire.

Could you please expand on this?

I understand your paranormal angle but what has led you to think this would work?

Hi Tim,
Just like to re-phrase my above sentence. Apparently, Yowies prefer the term Bunyip, so, continue with the granite stones to get their attention and say ''If there are Bunyips present I command you to appear''. I'm certain it will work.
Interesting you should say that. My wife and I were just this moment discussing the point that we both think Bunyips are in reality Yowies. I am sure Yowies spend a lot of time in and around water holes in the hot Aussie Summers, perhaps even sitting in it up to their necks.
sensesonfire wrote: I've come to this conclusion (right or wrong), through listening to a program from the US where these two brothers were having constant visits from Bigfoot right up to the verandahs of their houses. They contacted a psychic who had converted to Christianity and she decided to pray with the brothers asking to rid the properties of these terrifying visits, apparently it worked as Bigfoot never put foot on the property again. They described hearing Bigfoot roaring like lions fighting in a hilly, forested area near the boundaries of their land. More related to the ''command'' though was the guys had noticed a tall, elderly woman strangely attired who had been traversing the land morning and late afternoon and seemingly interacting with the Bigfoots, being somewhat concerned about her well being they called out to her to stop but was always ignored. So one day they called out to her''I command you to stop''which brought an instant response. The woman stopped, turned and looked at them with the most evil look.

The brothers reported this to the psychic and her shock reply was she was not a woman but a demon.

I can give you the whole program if you are interested.
Great episodes of Sasquatch Chronicles. For the first episode the brothers were aggressive and freaked out. Then later when Wes spoke to them again they were calm and relaxed, without any of the intense fear they had been suffering. They had put away thier guns and commanded the Sasquatch to leave them alone.

It is my belief that Homo Nocturnus rarely harms humans. They will do their damndest to scare humans off that are disrespectful in their ignorance, whether for laughs or to drive them away from their hunting grounds is irrelevant, the humans, in their fear, just react.

Sometimes they run (which probably makes them laugh)

Sometimes this leads to gun violence, which pisses them off big time.

They (rightly) consider themselves the apex predator, the 'Boss of the Woods' so any challenge will usually be answered with ever more intimidating actions... banging on houses, stealing food (livestock/pets), screaming, tearing up trees, etc.

They demand respect.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:49 pm
by Wolf
In saying that, there are countless reports of 'savage' tribes allowing enemies like white men into their midst unharmed if said enemy approached without fear and as a respectful equal, so perhaps 'commanding' Homo Nucturnus to appear would work if done with respect.

Re: A question for Dean and the more experienced field guys

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:19 pm
by Yowie bait
Seasonfires suggestion is fair enough. Ive heard the same thing from a few people. Not commanding them though but asking nicely. I will "command" some bunyips on the weekend and see how i go. If i get eaten i will come back as a dogman and chew Seasonfires best slippers...