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In less than two years, it will be the 50th anniversary of the first moon landing. Since that fateful day on July 20, 1969 when Neil Armstrong uttered those immortal words “that’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind”, humans have rarely set foot on the lunar landscape. In all, just 12 astronauts have walked on the moon’s surface, the last being in 1972.

It is mind blowing to contemplate a new iPhone has 1000 times more computing power than the entire Apollo Guidance Computer!! It’s amazing they got there and back in one piece. However, the missions were not without drama as we saw in the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13.

It begs the question why haven’t we been back? A frequent answer is that humans have been ‘warned off’ the moon as alien races mine valuable elements not readily found on earth. The recently discovered element 115 (or UUP… ununpentium) that supposedly powers gravity warp drives, could well be manufactured and stored on the moon.

Back to Neil Armstrong. After returning to Earth, he became a virtual recluse. He would not speak publicly about his lunar experiences. He was a man of great integrity and according to reports from family and close friends, could not bring himself to lie about what he witnessed on the moon.

NASA insiders claim Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin saw alien craft resting on the other side of the crater. Buzz was known to get extremely testy when pressed on this subject during interviews. There is also evidence from other countries from their photographic probes showing alien buildings on the moon. If you have any doubt about this, just watch the highly compelling interview with former US Air Force Sgt Karl Wolfe from the Disclosure project. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE He talks in detail about seeing classified photos from the Lunar Orbiter that clearly showed artificial structures on the moon’s surface.

So…summing up…Neil Armstrong’s refusal to speak publicly after he returned from the moon may indicate he saw things on the mission he was gagged from ever talking about. Now our moon seems ‘out of bounds’ for further exploration. In the last half century there has been a technology explosion. The ability to explore space is advancing in leaps and bounds. Unfortunately, no more manned moon missions are on the horizon. Perhaps SpaceX will do a few orbits sometime in the future for their clientele of space tourists. If it’s possible, Elon Musk will do it. Here is a man with unlimited drive, ambition and so it seems, money. The other side of the coin is Solar Warden... the secret space program using reverse engineered alien technology. Does the TR3B anti gravity spacecraft exist? Is it all real? If it is, it means humans have already travelled regularly to the moon, planets of this solar system and even to the stars!

As an aside, I believe the original moon landing was real but may have also been faked! It is often said NASA had backup footage shot by 2001: A Space Odyssey Director Stanly Kubrick. Maybe it was designed to fill in any ‘holes’ in case of possible alien encounters or breakdowns and they had to switch to a ‘normal’ feed. And as we now know, they really were there… the moon rocks brought back are scientific proof of the journey. And all indications are the aliens are still active there to this day.

Searcher wrote:In less than two years, it will be the 50th anniversary of the first moon landing. Since that fateful day on July 20, 1969 when Neil Armstrong uttered those immortal words “that’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind”, humans have rarely set foot on the lunar landscape. In all, just 12 astronauts have walked on the moon’s surface, the last being in 1972.

It is mind blowing to contemplate a new iPhone has 1000 times more computing power than the entire Apollo Guidance Computer!! It’s amazing they got there and back in one piece. However, the missions were not without drama as we saw in the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13.

It begs the question why haven’t we been back? A frequent answer is that humans have been ‘warned off’ the moon as alien races mine valuable elements not readily found on earth. The recently discovered element 115 (or UUP… ununpentium) that supposedly powers gravity warp drives, could well be manufactured and stored on the moon.

Back to Neil Armstrong. After returning to Earth, he became a virtual recluse. He would not speak publicly about his lunar experiences. He was a man of great integrity and according to reports from family and close friends, could not bring himself to lie about what he witnessed on the moon.

NASA insiders claim Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin saw alien craft resting on the other side of the crater. Buzz was known to get extremely testy when pressed on this subject during interviews. There is also evidence from other countries from their photographic probes showing alien buildings on the moon. If you have any doubt about this, just watch the highly compelling interview with former US Air Force Sgt Karl Wolfe from the Disclosure project. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE He talks in detail about seeing classified photos from the Lunar Orbiter that clearly showed artificial structures on the moon’s surface.

So…summing up…Neil Armstrong’s refusal to speak publicly after he returned from the moon may indicate he saw things on the mission he was gagged from ever talking about. Now our moon seems ‘out of bounds’ for further exploration. In the last half century there has been a technology explosion. The ability to explore space is advancing in leaps and bounds. Unfortunately, no more manned moon missions are on the horizon. Perhaps SpaceX will do a few orbits sometime in the future for their clientele of space tourists. If it’s possible, Elon Musk will do it. Here is a man with unlimited drive, ambition and so it seems, money. The other side of the coin is Solar Warden... the secret space program using reverse engineered alien technology. Does the TR3B anti gravity spacecraft exist? Is it all real? If it is, it means humans have already travelled regularly to the moon, planets of this solar system and even to the stars!

As an aside, I believe the original moon landing was real but may have also been faked! It is often said NASA had backup footage shot by 2001: A Space Odyssey Director Stanly Kubrick. Maybe it was designed to fill in any ‘holes’ in case of possible alien encounters or breakdowns and they had to switch to a ‘normal’ feed. And as we now know, they really were there… the moon rocks brought back are scientific proof of the journey. And all indications are the aliens are still active there to this day.

Hi Searcher, I watched the vid with Stg. Karl Wolfe and a few others. I’ve watched a few of these before,
especially the Sirius disclosure project. They are always interesting and seem to have good evidence to
support their claims.
What I don’t understand is that many of these former employees never exhibit one iota of anything
we would call radical, not in their language or demeanour. They never seem disgruntled by the system
they have lived through or feel that their country or NASA has failed them.

Maybe I’m generalising here a bit, but evoking the american stereotype of apple pie, uncle sam and
deep seated ubiquitous patriotism, they seem happy enough to cough up the goods a few decades
down the track. They mostly come across as nice and contented in their retirement which leaves me
looking for what the hell has been ignited inside them, that leads them to disclosure.

They discuss buildings on the moon as dryly as their golf game. They definitely look like people that
could keep a secret but they don’t.

Sgt Wolfe said that back in the day he feared for his life on more than one occasion,
so why doesn’t that still apply ?
because if you look at the situation and turn things around they are all still doing the work of the govt.
by revealing what has been going on.
The public may be more likely these days to believe a treasoness conspirator rather then a government
representative, but as I said earlier they never come across as treasoness conspirators……why ?

Am I missing the point with what the disclosure project is really about ?



T.

G’day Tuckeroo.

Appreciate your thoughts and POV’s, particularly on the ‘fearing for their life’ bit. There are now many 100’s of whistleblowers on the UFO scene with more arriving all the time. It would be folly to try to eliminate them all! I think the ‘powers that be’ understand the truth will be revealed eventually, so they are probably content to let these controversial UFO experiences be revealed in the public domain.

Every witness has a different personality. This will always be reflected in the way their story is related, so each one tells it in a different way. The Sirius witnesses all say they are prepared to swear on oath before Congress that their testimonies are the truth. Let’s get topical. The North Korean crisis and the threat of nuclear missiles is among the top stories on most news bulletins right now. Perhaps what is needed is the ability already demonstrated by UFOs to shut down Kim Jong-un’s missiles!

Captain Robert Salas’s account of this other worldly attack on his bunkered Minuteman nukes is worth listening to. I would guess Tuckeroo, you have already watched this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... kZWHpP17Rc

I see a quiet determination from this ex-military man to tell the truth about his experience in a very matter of fact way.

As has been claimed, I hope the west really does have access to highly advanced alien technology, as this may be the only thing that will put this North Korean lunatic in his place.

Hi Searcher,

Yes I had seen the vid, I don’t mind watching them again. I don’t know what to believe these days
but I definitely believe the Americans have advanced technology that we don’t know about,
maybe even the Chinese and Russians as well and yes this could help stop Kim Jong-un’s insanity,
going by what Robert Salas said about the UFO neutralising some of the minute-man missiles.

You said there are now 100’s of whistle blowers coming out of the woodwork to talk about UFO’s.
Is this because now days internet culture allows this or is there another reason ?
There also seems to be many things on the net regarding the moon landing being faked.
Internet culture has definitely allowed conspiracy theories to flourish.

There is so much so called evidence out there explaining why they did or didn’t go to the moon,
enough to give anyone an existential crisis. I tend to side with your idea, that yes they went to
the moon but maybe they faked a few photos about it.

I see clearly two different strands of the polemic here; did we go to the moon or not, juxtaposed
with; do ufo’s and advanced technologies exist here and on the moon.
The former group, the moon deniers seem less convincing than the latter group, the gentlemen
golfers from the disclosure project.

T.

You're right Tuckeroo... it's very difficult to know what to believe these days, be it Yowies, Bigfoot, UFO's or cryptid creatures living in the lakes, rivers and oceans of this world.

The weight and quality of the evidence is mostly all we can go by. The internet is wonderful as it facilitates investigation of these issues by allowing presentation of high quality witness testimonies directly into our homes. Then we try to make up our own minds!

It seems many people, particularly those associated government services, just feel it is time to speak out about their experiences with ET and get that weight of their shoulders. At least that's what most say. It would not be lost on them how others are coming forward with similar incredible stories. Perhaps they feel there is safety in numbers.

Another example of the aliens and their ability and willingness to destroy nuclear missiles is described in this amazing witness interview with Professor Robert Jacobs, who was then a Lieutenant in the US Air Force. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4wL4lbwwNU

As stated before, humans have not officially set foot on the moon for over 44 years. The mind boggles when you consider the advances in technology over that time. Was good to see the pro active Chinese touch touch down with their lunar lander and rover in 2013. No doubt the chemical rockets they used to achieve this will soon go the way of the horse and cart when NASA and its collaborators finally admit what they already know about anti-gravity propulsion.

Read an interesting article from ABC news today on the possibility of building moon bases using moon materials and 3D printing techniques. A permanent lunar base will be a given... once we have learned how to deal with those already there!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-05/m ... rn/8397068

What China Found on the Moon is the Most Astonishing Space Discovery Ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7MfYzdlkJY

Searcher wrote:You're right Tuckeroo... it's very difficult to know what to believe these days, be it Yowies, Bigfoot, UFO's or cryptid creatures living in the lakes, rivers and oceans of this world.

The weight and quality of the evidence is mostly all we can go by. The internet is wonderful as it facilitates investigation of these issues by allowing presentation of high quality witness testimonies directly into our homes. Then we try to make up our own minds!

It seems many people, particularly those associated government services, just feel it is time to speak out about their experiences with ET and get that weight of their shoulders. At least that's what most say. It would not be lost on them how others are coming forward with similar incredible stories. Perhaps they feel there is safety in numbers.

Another example of the aliens and their ability and willingness to destroy nuclear missiles is described in this amazing witness interview with Professor Robert Jacobs, who was then a Lieutenant in the US Air Force. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4wL4lbwwNU

Hey Searcher

Possibly Yowies, Bigfoot, UFO's , aliens ,cryptid creatures etc all can be all tied into together and have a common explanation/source.

I have watched a number of videos re Antarctica and will post all links below if I can find them..If it is all/part true then it seems that Hitler/Germany was the first to discover stuff under the ice down south. Then after WW2 about 1946 USA got wind of what the Germans were up to and sent almost the entire US NAVY on an expedition to Antarctica and since then USA as well as many other countries have ongoing under ice excavation activites. Might actually be a lot more happening than is being disclosed. Another example of our governments controlling us and traating us like mushrooms and keeping us in the dark and feeding us nothing but bullshit and lies. The New World Order.

Cheers


Anonymous - Ancient race found in Antarctica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tspfAFfzSjc



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TheBlackStump wrote:What China Found on the Moon is the Most Astonishing Space Discovery Ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7MfYzdlkJY

You are on the right track with China. I think it is very much a case of 'watch this space' !

As for:

Possibly Yowies, Bigfoot, UFO's , aliens ,cryptid creatures etc all can be all tied into together and have a common explanation/source.

Good luck with that! Reckon it will as difficult to bring them all together as Einstein found with his attempts to find a unified field theory! The great man failed to do it and physicists today are still banging heads trying to bring together general relativity and quantum mechanics.

Hey Searcher

This is a bit out there and as strange as it sounds there is a fair bit written and vids about Nazis/Hitler being the first to find stuff down in Antarctica and related to the finds under the ice it is reported Hitler/Nazis had space craft and actually have/had a moonbase.
Have you seen anything on this at all ?

Cheers

TheBlackStump wrote:

This is a bit out there and as strange as it sounds there is a fair bit written and vids about Nazis/Hitler being the first to find stuff down in Antarctica and related to the finds under the ice it is reported Hitler/Nazis had space craft and actually have/had a moonbase.
Have you seen anything on this at all ?

Personally, I give no credence at all to the fanciful stories of Nazi UFO’s and Antarctic or moon bases. It is way too easy to write about far -fetched conjecture like this without having any real evidence. There is always money to be made selling books, articles and videos to people who are quick to believe. That’s my take!

Cheers.

Noticed in the latest Filers Files that China is supposed to be releasing photos of alien structures on the Moon in the coming months. However, I’ll believe that when I see it!

China is not only making surprise visits to Sydney Harbour, it is full speed ahead on Moon exploration with satellites, a lunar lander and also a rover. There is much evidence our Moon has artificial structures and it’s very possible China will take a different view to the West when it comes to releasing data. The Chinese are used to marching to the beat of their own drums!

With the 50th anniversary of the moon landing happening next month, it would be an ideal time for NASA (Never A Straight Answer) to come clean! However, take it to the bank that won’t happen…

A couple of weeks ago, NASA declared “We are going to the Moon to stay by 2024.” NASA also has a new Mars rover that is expected to touch down on the red planet in February 2021. SpaceX is also very keen to go to Mars. They have also launched the first 60 satellites of their Starlink constellation. Over the next few years they will bring that number into the thousands, and eventually as many as 12,000 low-Earth orbiting satellites to provide high speed internet to every corner of the planet.

However, there are many questions about groups like SpaceX and their re-usable rockets. Why are they wasting billions of dollars on chemical rocket technology when people like former Lockheed Skunkworks CEO Ben Rich have famously declared “We know how to take ET home”. The obvious answer is they can make a lot of money in the present and this will help fund future ventures like establishing human colonies on Mars. That's what SpaceX is planning.

It seems government agencies are not yet ready to admit development of alternative energy power sources. Like the ones propelling the UFOs that are seen in Earth's sky around 150 to 200 times every week!! This super technology seems to be locked up in black projects by the clandestine industrial/military complex. Yep… that’s the same group that President Eisenhower warned about all those years ago.

Hey searcher excellent thread you've started, as usual.

Whenever an "insider" comes publically forward with "factual" statements about classified information you should always ask yourself. "why are they violating extremely binding sf312 agreements?"

People simply dont break those. The penalties are way too high. So, that leaves the lingering question. Are those individuals involved in cointel? Or to use the old adage "those that know, dont talk." It's a very true saying.

Einstein was a genius, but not the first nor the last. However, a lot of headway has been made since his day. His ideas of relativity eventually found decent merging with quantum gravity by way of geniuses such as Abhay Ashketar and his Ashketar Variables. Linking Loop Quantum Gravity to General Relativity. A intriguing substitute for Einstein's Relativity is the later developed Brans Dicke Theory. BDT couples well with Mach's Principle.

If one understood correctly whats going on, nothing about it would implicate aliens.

Not to say that there arent the occasional aliens visiting earth. But dont sell humanity short by believing we couldn't possibly come up with "ufo" technology all by ourselves. Homo sapiens are quite virtuosic and bloody brilliant when they want to be.

Hi bassplyr. Thanks for the kind words. You raise some interesting points. I hear loud and clear what is said about security oaths. It obviously works with most people but definitely not all.

The Disclosure Project has over 800 whistleblowers from high level defence contractors, government officials and military/intelligence individuals who are prepared to testify under oath about what they know of ET/UFO secrecy. So despite the threat of penalties, the reality is it does happen!

The proof is there at Sirius Disclosure under Witness Testimony for all to see. And most are not just ‘factual statements’ but in depth, highly detailed interviews.

Have to agree with the thoughts on Albert Einstein. He truly was a great man with an understanding of the universe way ahead of his time. He spent his life attempting to reconcile Relativity with Quantum Mechanics but ultimately failed. I’m very interested in theoretical physics so really appreciate the comments.

I don’t want to sell humanity short, but the fact is we have only been into a computer age for a very short time. Today’s smartphones or a modern car have more computing power than the NASA computer used to send astronauts to the Moon in 1969. That’s progress. Imagine where our technology will be in a hundred or even thousands of years from now. That’s assuming we learn how to survive and avoid Armageddon!

I believe most alien races would likely be way, way ahead of us in both mental and technological advancement. The human brain will surely develop more intelligence given vast amounts of time. Communication by telepathy would be considered normal. It is interesting that many abductees report this type of mental dialogue. Considering the enormous age of the universe and other star systems where a million years is just a drop in a bucket, other visiting races could easily be a million years more advanced. Just my speculative thoughts!

Hey Searcher. Thanks for the reply.

We differ in opinion about the disclosure project and its weight as evidence. I would love for all their or even some of their testimonials to be true. On one hand I believe many of them are cointel -outright fabrication. On the other hand i believe some of the testimonials are by sincere people who did experience things as they described, but came to incorrect conclusions. For instance the gentleman who describes the nuclear missiles shutting down. That may have happened. But, it doesn't mean his conclusion that it was extra terrestrials that did it is correct. Another good example of that is the hoopla about the Nimitz encounters thats being hyped about these days. It sure doesn't sound to me that the pilots were having a run in with aliens. Sounds to me that assets they arent cleared to know about were being tested and they got involved. Its not so unusual for exotic stuff to be tested on the unsuspecting, both military and/or civilians, for live data feedback. And before you take the show on the road with said new technologies or weapon systems you have to test it out on your own first.

Regarding the affirmations given about testifying in front of congress. One can say it. Doesn't mean they'll actually do it.

From my experience the reality is classified military information is not dispensed so flippantly. Most of the time its never given out in a public forum. And the few times when it is, its scrubbed extremely quickly by DIA and their counterparts. Some things obviously do leak out but details are usually very scant or are ultimately inconsequential. People who violate their security oaths get a phone call real quickly reminding them of said oaths and the consequences for going off the leash with information they're not supposed to. With these phobe calls its s a "yes sir, no sir" kinda conversation.

I'm happy that we both share a love for physics. I think more ufo researchers would come to better revelations and conclusions if they took the initiative you do in educating themselves in those sciences deeper. Can a lot of the behaviour of ufos be explained by things not necessarily anti-gravitic? And if so, what do you believe would be a better explanation?

Einstein was brilliant for putting the pieces together so elegantly. But he wasn't ahead of his time. His ideas and thories are direct reflections of the science at the time. He was greatly influenced by giants that came before him. Einstein's theory of time dilation was inspired by the groundwork Leibniz layed out. Newton first came up with the idea of Equivalence between inertial mass and gravity. The mathematical foundation of Einstein's theory of relativity was laid a half century earlier by Reimann. Mach and DeSitter both influenced Einstein's ponderings on the curvature of space and the source of inertial framedragging. Einstein admitted that Lorentz and his Lorentz Transformation equation was one of the cornerstones of his theory of relativity. I know discussion of physics to this degree may sound off topic, but i argue that they are very much the topic when it comes to understanding ufos and their origens being not extra terrestrial in nature.

Back on the topic of neil Armstrong and the rumours of the Apollo crew seeing disc shaped vehicles on the far side of lunar craters and following their capsule. I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. But again, doesn't mean they were aliens.