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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OvzOH60HqA4

There are so many unanswered questions re the latest shooting.

1, why does it sound distinctly like there are two shooters firing? Granted echoes in built up areas can be deceiving but to my ears it sounds at times like two weapons of different calibers firing together.

2, how did t shooter manage to get so many guns into his room in one of the most heavily surveiled cities in the world, past very tight security?

3, why does the official story state the shooter moved into the room on the 28th when his room receipts for room service have the 27th on them?

4, why did a 'Hispanic-looking' female warn concert goers 45 mins before the gullets started flying, "You are all going to die tonight!"

4, if it is a false flag, as many factors do indicate, to bring in more gun laws and disarm the people... why did 'they' not use a Trump supporter as the patsy and attack a gay/liberal/SJW concert? One would think this would suit their agenda better and reinforce the left wing side of the impending civil war they are trying to start.
The only answer to this I can think of is that 'they' are trying to get support for stricter gun laws from the social grouping that is generally pro second amendment... "Look, because of slack gun laws the lefties can get guns and kill YOU!"

The bought-and-paid-for media has been openly pushing for and promoting violence against Trump and his supporters since before the election. Many on the so-called alt right have been warning of false flags exactly like this for ages.

The PTB obviously want stronger, more authoritarian laws pushed through to better control the people, it just seems to me they would have been better off reinforcing support from the 'choir' rather than attempt to swing a few 'second amendment folks' thier way? Unless they are trying to push the patriots/Trumpers to retaliate?

I must say, it does smell a little like the Martin Bryant story. Except Martin B got to live. Look up the Martin Bryant Conspiracy.

hillbilly wrote:I must say, it does smell a little like the Martin Bryant story. Except Martin B got to live. Look up the Martin Bryant Conspiracy.

I was living in a bus when Port Arthur happened.

The front pages of the papers told me right away that it was a clear false flag. Then I began looking into it in more depth.

The first big give away was the 'kill rate'... incredibly high for a long arm in tight conditions (inside). While in no way a marksman myself (I prefer bows) I know enough about guns from being around them all my life to know that there was simply no way an 'amateur' could be so accurate with a long arm at such close quarters. In fact I would go so far as to say the amount of people in the entire world who could carry off such an act would number only 3 or 4 figures.

Then, this incredibly accurate 'killer' had trouble even hitting police cars when they pulled up at his house and started shooting!

Next was the fire... obviously Bryant was meant to die in it but he ran out of the house on fire instead.

The next big indicator was the political reaction... it takes months, sometimes years to write acts, yet the guvmint had it all ready to go, immediately!

-Eyewitness reports from victims saying Bryant was not solid enough to match the shooter were hushed up.
-The bloke who sold him the guns was told to shut his mouth.
-Bryant himself was not given a fair trial.
-The UN rep who practically wrote the UN 'disarm-the-people' laws was in Australia at the time.
-To this day no-one is allowed to interview him or talk to him... it goes on and on.

Notice the media NEVER talks about crimes stopped by guns?
Only the week before this Las Vegas incident a Sudanese immigrant attacked and shot up a white church. The reason only one person died was because one of the congregation was armed and took the killer down.

Also notice the Aussie media NEVER talks about all the shootings being carried out by crims? Why? Because it does not fit the narrative that Australia is safer now with the gun laws.

hillbilly wrote:I must say, it does smell a little like the Martin Bryant story. Except Martin B got to live. Look up the Martin Bryant Conspiracy.

Someone told me years ago that the Officials who were at Port Arthur handling the situation, just happened to be at the Bali Bombing site years later. Who is to know?

IMO staged events are real as I have said before however...., I think conspiracy theories abound in today's age because there is just too many people with mobile phones or witnesses to these events to keep a planned event quiet.

The shooter is now linked (via his aircraft and employment history) to the FBI.

The people are digging and it seems some spooks wiped the FAA but not a website that copies FAA data...

From https://www.infowars.com/vegas-shooting ... -suggests/


"Suspected Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock maintained deep ties to ISIS, suggests new evidence as a clear picture of what actually happened comes into focus.
Here’s the takeaways from the evidence so far:

1) Paddock had been radicalized, either for real or as part of a cover as he had the hallmarks of an intelligence agency cutout. Intelligence agencies were behind the rise of ISIS.

2) Paddock worked for a major aerospace company which had connections with Skunkworks – and he held multiple pilot licenses.

3) There was more than one shooter, and Paddock was clearly not acting alone.

4) Paddock was spending millions of dollars a year as an “apartment complex manager” while traveling the world and was a frequent guest at casinos – and, interestingly, casinos are one of the few legal places where someone can still launder money. You exchange money for chips, no questions asked, and even if you lose 20% or 30% from gambling, the casino gives you the rest of your money back when you turn in your chips.

5) There is a major cover-up of the shooting that is frustrating state and federal-level investigators who are being roadblocked by deep state insiders, sources told Infowars.

6) There were over 20 firearms transported to Paddock’s room in a casino which is under constant surveillance, even in the hotel rooms themselves. Notice how the mainstream media was so quick to claim Paddock was a “lone operator” the morning after the shooting, despite this clear discrepancy.

7) Evidence is suggesting that Paddock was possibly a gun runner for an intelligence agency, which would explain all the guns and the other aforementioned oddities surrounding the shooting. Even his radicalization would still fit into that narrative – remember, former CIA Director John Brennan was rumored to have converted to Wahhabism.
This video lays out all the evidence indicating there was more than one shooter:

And, as we reported earlier, a former Trump campaign official said he was leaked information from high-level sources that Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock made an ISIS propaganda tape.
While Infowars does not outright endorse the veracity of the official’s claims, there’s other evidence which similarly emphasizes Paddock’s ties to ISIS.
After a FBI source told Infowars that photos taken in the Middle East and Antifa literature was found in the suspect’s hotel room, Clark Co. Sheriff Joe Lombardo hinted the shooter may have been “radicalized” and wasn’t acting alone.

And it wasn’t until after Infowars reported the Middle Eastern photos that officials revealed Paddock’s girlfriend had visited Dubai.
Clearly there’s more than one shooter, FBI sources confirmed to Infowars, and one of the shooters was firing at fuel tanks near the concert in an attempt to ignite them.

Video reveals two different types of firearms firing simultaneously.

Also, law enforcement sources believe the unidentified couple who told concert goers they were “all going to f***ing die” if they didn’t leave were likely part of the group behind the shooting, but later got cold feet and were trying to warn others of the impending massacre.
ISIS featured a photo of the Mandalay Bay hotel drenched in blood on the cover of its latest newsletter – and the terrorist group also claimed Paddock was radicalized six months before.

New York Times correspondent Rukmini Callimachi even admitted that “ISIS has rarely claimed attacks that were not by either their members or sympathizers.”
As far as the Antifa connections, we reported on Tuesday how members of Antifa are receiving military training in the Syrian Civil War as part of a dark triad between Antifa, anarcho-communist Kurds and Kurds linked to ISIS."

The injury stats might include everything from a bullet wound to a papercut. In the stampede there would have been a lot of assorted injuries.. The media loves big numbers to talk up.Buy I agree a lot of the story stinks.

hillbilly wrote:The injury stats might include everything from a bullet wound to a papercut. In the stampede there would have been a lot of assorted injuries.. The media loves big numbers to talk up.Buy I agree a lot of the story stinks.

I heard one report from a victim that had been shot in hte knee as she ran AWAY from the shooter. Thing is, the bullet passed from front to back IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION from the shooter!

This incident is just the start. The Left has been saying for ages they were gong to trigger something Oct 1st as the prelude to a violent, widespread attack on republicans and Trump supporters on Nov 4th.

Wolf wrote:[I heard one report from a victim that had been shot in hte knee as she ran AWAY from the shooter. Thing is, the bullet passed from front to back IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION from the shooter!

a) Nobody really knew in those first moments where the shooter was. She could have, like others, been running blind, not knowing the shooter was in front of her. It was night time, with lots of bright lights from the concert and big screen to confuse and dazzle anyone looking up for a source of the firing.

b) Ricochet must be a considered possibility

c) The "I heard..." straight away has no factual content - it's hearsay. Please bear that in mind.

Shazz

Shazzoir wrote:

Wolf wrote:[I heard one report from a victim that had been shot in hte knee as she ran AWAY from the shooter. Thing is, the bullet passed from front to back IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION from the shooter!

a) Nobody really knew in those first moments where the shooter was. She could have, like others, been running blind, not knowing the shooter was in front of her. It was night time, with lots of bright lights from the concert and big screen to confuse and dazzle anyone looking up for a source of the firing.

b) Ricochet must be a considered possibility

c) The "I heard..." straight away has no factual content - it's hearsay. Please bear that in mind.

Shazz

Ok, let's look at the 'facts'...

1, somehow this older gentleman was able to carry 20+ firearms PLUS many kilograms of ammunition up into his room without any help, without hotel security being aware of it.

2, ex navy SEALs have described the audio as multiple weapons of different caliber being fired AT THE SAME TIME!

3, ISIS has claimed the shooter was 'one of theirs', backed up by calls from a prominent Muslim Brotherhood/jihadist for white converts to carry out mass killings in the Las Vegas strip.

4, a concert goer claims a woman warned other concert goers 45 minutes before the shooting started that they "were all going to die tonight."

5, prominent US politicians from the left have been saying for weeks that "something big is going to happen" within months.

6, 'revolutionary' leftists like anti-fa have called for violence against 'white, trump-supporting' America to begin on the 1st of October (an "Octobe Surprise") followed by mass 'action' scheduled to take place on the 4th of November (watch this space).

There are many more inconvenient facts not being covered by the MSM but these will do as a start.

7, Youtube is 'tweaking' search algorithms to stop alternative viewpoints...


(from https://www.infowars.com/youtube-tweaks ... oes-viral/)



"In Silicon Valley’s ongoing crusade to make sure that you only consume mainstream media propaganda, you know because $100,000 worth of Facebook ads crushed Hillary’s campaign and changed the course of human history forever (sarc), YouTube has joined the likes of Facebook and Twitter in saying that it will promote more “authoritative sources in search results” going forward. All of which, once again, begs the question of who gets to determine who is an “authoritative source?”

As the Wall Street Journal points out today, YouTube searches for “Las Vegas Shooting” earlier this week included a video from “End Times News Report” with the title “Proof Las Vegas Shooting Was a FALSE FLAG Attack – Shooter on 4th Floor.” The video, created by Jake Morphonios who posts YouTube videos in his spare time, quickly went viral and amassed over 1.1 million views in just 27 hours…but all that changed when YouTube decided to censor Morphonios’ content and replace it with mainstream media videos…you know for your protection.

For example, the fifth result when searching “Las Vegas shooting” on YouTube late Tuesday showed the video titled “Proof Las Vegas Shooting Was a FALSE FLAG attack—Shooter on 4th Floor.” The video said there were multiple shooters in Sunday’s mass shooting, a claim dismissed by law enforcement. Posted by a channel called the End Times News Report, it amassed more than 1.1 million views in about 27 hours.

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The high search ranking of the End Times News Report video claiming there was a second shooter in Las Vegas helped it gain 371,000 views over four hours late Tuesday. On Wednesday, YouTube removed the video.

Jake Morphonios, who runs the End Times News Report along with a damaged-inventory-liquidation business in Kernersville, N.C., said the video eventually reached 2.5 million views. “It was a hot topic, of course, and was going to get some views anyway, but it really did get caught in [YouTube’s] algorithm and went viral from there,” he said. “Clearly it got into featured videos or something.” The 43-year-old said he has posted about 800 videos and typically gets about 5,000 views each.

He said he aims to offer viewers information on news events that mainstream news sources won’t. “It’s my opinion, it’s my analysis, and everyone’s got an opinion, and I can understand that maybe they don’t want me to be considered the equivalent of The Wall Street Journal or the New York Times or something like that,” he said. “But still, I’m not presenting myself as mainstream media. I’m just a guy with a computer offering an opinion. And to be punished for that is, well, it’s draconian.”

Not surprisingly, YouTube said the the “tweaks” made to their search engines were designed to promote more “authoritative sources,” especially when searches are related to “major news events.”

In response to criticism on social media of some search results this week, a person familiar with YouTube said the company is accelerating the rollout of planned changes to its search engine. On Wednesday night, the video service began promoting more authoritative sources in search results, especially pertaining to major news events, the person said. YouTube doesn’t disclose how it determines which sources are authoritative.

But while YouTube refused to offer any insights into how they plan to decipher “authoritative sources” from “non-authoritative sources”, running the same search for “Las Vegas shooting” today, after YouTube’s ‘tweaks’, provides some clues on their methodology…

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Conclusion, YouTube’s ‘tweaks’ have turned it into nothing more than a mainstream media echo chamber."

Insider Trading Vegas False Flag (from http://stevepieczenik.com/financial-foolery-at-mgm/)

Soros and MGM Stock Sell Short

Put options purchased 8/14

1.35 million shares

Soros manages an investment fund that has to file quarterly statements with the SEC to disclose its positions.

On 8/14, he filed a 13f. The one previous to that was filed on 5/15. By looking at these two forms, we can see the changes he made to the portfolio during that time.

When it comes to gambling stocks, he does not seem too interested, OTHER THAN MGM.

5/15:

LVS (Las Vegas Sands, Sheldon Adelson’s casinos) – Soros owned 5,000 shares.

WYNN (Wynn Resorts, Steve Wynn’s casinos) – Soros owned 3,500 shares.

MGM – Soros held no position.

8/14:

LVS – Soros sold 1,400 shares, leaving him with 3,600.

WYNN – Soros sold all 3,500 shares, leaving him with no position.

MGM – Soros bought put options, which means he was short the shares, to the tune of 1,350,000 shares.

CEO MGM James Murren was in on it too, probably connected to Soros.

Murren funded far left groups, to include CAIR. Murren also holds a position with Dept of Homeland Security.

He dumped most of his MGM stock ($13.7 million worth) in the months leading up to the shooting!

Also, on September 12, someone was placing much larger than normal bets that the MGM stock would go down! MGM Resorts International (NYSE:MGM) was the target of unusually large options trading activity. Investors purchased 11,909 put options on the company. This is an increase of approximately 164% compared to the typical daily volume of 4,509 put options.

https://finance.yahoo.com/screener/insi ... EN%20JAMES

SECRET SOCIETY?

MGM Resorts (Mandalay Bay, Luxor, etc) seem to have their very own secret society called ENLIGHTENED SOCIETY FOR GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION. Here’s their trademark logo, originally registered by MANDALAY RESORT GROUP in 1995

The pyramid

https://www.trademarkia.com/enlightened-society-for…

James Murren: CEO of Mandalay Bay/MGM Resorts International is a sitting member of the Homeland Security National Infrastructure Advisory Council-he’s responsible for getting legislation and regulations passed for security & technology infrastructure in public places. Things such as x-ray backscatter machines. So the CEO of Mandalay Bay is a sitting member of the Homeland Security National Infrastructure Advisory Council? This is not normal people!!!

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/potential…/209280

Ceo Murren is on the list



The National Infrastructure Advisory Council (NIAC) shall provide the President through the Secretary of Homeland Security with advice on the security of the critical infrastructure sectors and their information systems

https://www.dhs.gov/national-infrastruc ... ry-council

Mandalay Bay CEO Jim Murren funding extreme and radical groups with shareholder money. In bed with Islamic terrorist. Hillary praises Heather Mur

Murren declared that he’d match all donations from his employees to CAIR, and radical left-wing anti -Trump groups like Southern Poverty Law Center and ADL – Anti-Defamation League. His wife, Heather Murren also worked for the Obama administration on Obama’s “Commission for Enhancing National Cybersecurity” in 2016.

This site has a timeline of events, reads like a Tom Clancy/Robert Ludlum type novel...
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threa ... inks.1742/

Here is an excerpt:

"George Soros purhased $42 million worth of Put Options in MGM Resorts last June. That month MGM Resorts had an Adjusted Close High on June 23rd of $34.05. Since the shooting on Oct. 1st, MGM Resorts stock has dropped from an Adjusted Close of $32.59 on Sep 29 to a low of $29.69 and only broken $31 once. The important thing to know about these put options is what their expiration date was or is. United States Securities and Exchange Commission Form 13F does not list put/call option expiration dates. July only dropped to $30 for a period of 3 consecutive days, and for the period of July to Sept 29, the stock has averaged high $32s. The MGM Resorts stock has averaged very low $30s since October 1st. If the expiration date of Soros' $42 million in put options is still in the future, he stands to make a killing, provided his strike price is the $34 price from June 23. If the expiration date of these put options was before Oct. 1st, then this was unrelated to the attacks. Soros could easlly end the speculation by publishing the expiration date of these put options.

Current CEO of MGM Resorts James Murren sold 80% of his MGM Resorts stock in September. This despite MGM Resorts International Sep. 5th announcement of their adoption of a $1.0 billion Share Repurchase Program. "Our new share repurchase program, along with the initiation of our quarterly dividend earlier this year, clearly highlights the board and management team's firm belief in our strategic plan – the successful execution of our long-term growth prospects, our disciplined capital allocation strategy, and our ongoing commitment to maximize sustained value for our shareholders," said Jim Murren, Chairman and CEO of MGM Resorts. Why would he then sell 80% of his MGM Resorts stocks that same month?

As the SEC insider transaction reports detail, from July to September, approximately 6 million shares of MGM were sold by NINETEEN officers and/or directors of the company, totaling approximately $200 million in proceeds to sellers. Included in this group is the selling of approximately 450,000 shares by MGM CEO and Chairman James Murren (a seller of size since late July) and who appears to have sold more than 85% of all holdings. We also see that MGM Board member Grounds William Warwick sold 5.2 million shares of his MGM stock on 9/7/17.

Shares of MGM Resorts International fell nearly 5% in trading the Monday after the shooting, with the casino company’s market capitalization dropping to $17.8 billion after police said Paddock had opened fire at concertgoers from the 32nd floor of the nearby Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. It led the sell-off of casino management companies with heavy presences on the Las Vegas Strip, with shares of Wynn Resorts (WYNN, +0.39%) , Red Rock Resorts, Caesars Entertainment (CZR, +1.23%) , and Boyd Gaming (BYD, -0.63%) all falling following the news. In total, the five casino and hotel companies shed a total of $1.8 billion from their market capitalizations by midday Oct. 2nd as the Las Vegas shooting fanned worries about tourists returning to the strip following the tragedy.

While Las Vegas has accounted for the bulk of MGM’s revenues, MGM has been diversifying since its near-bankruptcy experience following the financial crisis. Now, investors are largely looking toward the casino management firm’s expansion on the U.S. East coast and Asia for future growth. So they were already moving away from Vegas anyways. So why not cash out with a bang?

Former head of DHS Michael Chertoff of underwear bomber naked body scanner fame and OSI Systems, manufacturers of naked body scanners and metal detectors, have a ponzi scheme in the works to merge their security firms into one entity that will install naked body scanners and metal detectors in ALL hotels and public venues across the USA under the new federal security laws that are expected to be enacted following this shooting through the lobbying efforts of political heavy hitter, fundraiser, deep state insider, and CEO of Las Vegas Sands, Sheldon Adelson, who has historic ties to the CIA.

The media is already hyping the need for more stringent security measures at hotels and public venuies, and a Dem pulled support of the sportsmen bill which would have relaxed purhcasing requirements for gun accessories such as suppressors. Other very vague bulls to ban accessories are now being introduced."

Conspiracy theories crop up everytime there is an incident like this. Just like weeds.

Martin Bryant carried off his successful killing spree because he was using a long arm and long arms are deadly accurate at the range he was shooting. There is no mystery, no false flag. Just a deranged killer with a gun which he knew how to use. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. There was no second Shooter on the grassy knoll.

Same with the Last Vegas shooting spree. One perpetrator, in one vantage point with one agenda. No mysteries. Just a killer who deserves the death penalty.

Scarts wrote:Conspiracy theories crop up everytime there is an incident like this. Just like weeds.

Martin Bryant carried off his successful killing spree because he was using a long arm and long arms are deadly accurate at the range he was shooting. There is no mystery, no false flag. Just a deranged killer with a gun which he knew how to use. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. There was no second Shooter on the grassy knoll.

Same with the Last Vegas shooting spree. One perpetrator, in one vantage point with one agenda. No mysteries. Just a killer who deserves the death penalty.

And your experience with rifles is?....

Bryant's 'shooting spree' was inside a cafe at close quarters. Anyone who knows anything about guns knows such accuracy at close range with a long arm only comes with intense training. It is simple physics. The longer the gun barrel the harder it is to use in close quarters... a handgun, yes, but a longarm with such a high kill ratio demonstrates extraordinary skill.

As to JFK, please explain why the secret service agents who were supposed to be standing on the back of the presidential vehicle were ordered OFF their positions moments before the shooting? The footage of the agents stepping off the special positions is readily viewable on YouTube. One agent even holds his hands up in an obvious questioning motion.

(There are many more 'facts' ignored about this incident but I find this one particularly telling)

From memory not all Port Arthur shootings were in the cafe .There were also more persons killed outside of the cafe in the general area ?

I have heard military firearms experts state it was impossible for Bryant to posses the firearms expertise needed to do what he is accused of.

Also some of the eye witnesses to shootings stated that Bryant was definitely not the person they saw shooting people.