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Pic was taken in the early 1900s in NSW I believe . Look on far r/h side of pic. What do you think ?

You mean the two people sitting in the shadow?

If you magnify the RH side and look really carefully you can just make out "Photoshop, TM Microsoft".

Hi Mad Academic

Thanks for your feedback. My computer skills are pretty basic and I can not see what you are saying about photoshop.

Can anyone else confirm photoshop in photo

Cheers

TheBlackStump wrote:Pic was taken in the early 1900s in NSW I believe . Look on far r/h side of pic. What do you think ?

I think it is a photograph of some Origine people.

theloneranger wrote:You mean the two people sitting in the shadow?

yes mate see the 2 end people , in particular the darker one at the rear.

I can't see the trade mark. What are we suppose to be looking for?? They all look like people to me with the people at the right end a bit darker.

Zed

Zed wrote:I can't see the trade mark. What are we suppose to be looking for?? They all look like people to me with the people at the right end a bit darker.

Zed

I just got this photo from an initiated indigenous man/friend I have known for over 30 years. He told me he obtained a copy of the pic from the Mungo Visitors Centre where it is displayed.

My friend tells me that the rear figure on r/h side of pic is a hairy man/jungadee .

My friend also told me the story as told to him that the camera operater was not aware of hairy man when taking pic. Only after pic was developed did camera operater see hairy man in the pic. The camera man then showed the pic to some of indigenous persons in the pic and asked if they knew that the hairy man was there. Indigenous persons did confirm to camera operaror that yes they were aware that the hairy man was also there with the group at time of photo being taken.

There has been discussion about this pic before.
The general consensus was that it was the shadow that was causing the darker feature and the impression of hair.
I'm not saying thats a definitive answer but it lends itself well for a probable explaination.
Also does the size/appearence of this figure represent common descriptions of the Jungadee?

Hi ChrisV

Thanks for your comments

Is it possible for you to provide a link to the previous discussions ?

My personal subjective observations of the pic are...

Re shadows ...I see that the young indigenous person on far right of pic is turned on more of an angle away from sun than others in pic which gives their front of torso skin a darker appearance .Personally I do not see any shadows from trees etc on any of the subjects in the photo including alleged hairy man.

The indigenous woman next to the alleged hairy man seems to me to be possibly distancing herself and leaning slightly away from alleged hairy man and encroaching on space of woman next to her.

All indigenous children in pic were placed in front of all adults in pic. All indigenous women are placed in second row in pic as is the alleged hairy man or maybe it may be a hairy woman. Alleged hairy man/woman is in the second row and is either kneeling , squatting or sitting. All indigenous men are in back row and are standing.

Sun can be seen on nose and one cheek skin of alleged hairy man/woman. The sun is hitting on left side of nose and left cheek of hairy man/woman appears to me to be hitting the face/cheek of hairy man/woman on same/similar angle as it hits all/most other persons in the pic. photo.

Brown patch seen on left side of head hair of alleged hairy man/woman is in my opinion hair shine from the sun and if you look at hair shine from sun on left side of head on some other persons in pic (depending on the angle each person is positioned in relation to the angle of sun ) you will see the same/similar hair shine on them as is seen on alleged hairy man/woman.

The one thing that strikes me is the feeling of being isolated from the rest in the pic.

I notice too that the subjects to the right of the photo lack definition and clarity, compared to the subjects at the left and centre. Perhaps a result of the "dip" into the developer fluid.
My opinion is that it is a young woman, sitting in the row of women. She has a similar hair silhouette to other subjects.
She lacks picture image detail as do others on that side of old picture. Just my opinion.

Sure is an interesting photo. I can see how it's lighter on that side as Hilbilly has pointed out.

Seems to be something else there as well in another part of photo but could be my eyes of course..

Hi Yowie Bait

Good pickup mate. The baby does appear to have an unusually healthy head of hair for its age , but no hair on babies body. Also look at the woman that is holding the baby hand/fingers. The dark hair comes down and loops back around womans fingers/hand.

Also look at the chest of the hairy man/woman and you will see a dark patch. Dark patch may be a shadow cast from the hairy womans left breast by the sun.

What i was pointing out is actually behind the spear. You can see the spear in front of it. Could be something that blokes holding?

Yes i can see something on the hairy ones chest as well. Its to hard to call for me. A job for bigfoot tony i think.

I also doubt any Aboriginals would be making it up as they take these things very seriously but they could be mistaken. I showed someone else and they said " half breed" !!!!

Ok so I see a white sandy bank and brown lines possibly on the white sand or possibly being held by the guy... are you referring to the brown lines or ?

I attemped to contact Mungo Visitors Centre today by phone to see if I could maybe get any sort of history on the pic. No direct line to visitors centre so I contacted NPWS and was put through to manager of NPWS Darling region. I spoke to the manager and was advised they were not familiar with the pic I described to them . They told me the visitor centre was upgraded a few years back and a contractor was responsible for all of the interpretations in upgrade. I need to send an email to NPWS with my enquiry and they advised me they would forward email to contractor.

Interesting Photo

The old black box brownie cameras can show up a lot strange stuff, from ghosts, orbs, disfigured people etc, take the below image for instance, most will see a man on the left who looks almost ghostly with no legs and a black face.

I dare say the junjudee thing maybe a play on light, I only say that because it doesn't sit right with me for some reason, the head and hair are rather indigenous to the rest of the picture which makes me think its just a play of light.

For what its worth, its probably nothing but here is what i was pointing out. Even if the main figure is something, its not a clear image anyway which is a shame.

Ok thanks for clarifying , I am with you now YB. Yes pity it is not clearer.

So if I let my imagination run a bit here I can now possibly see the woman holding 2 babies with her arm. One black hairy baby and one baby with no hair.

TheBlackStump wrote:Ok thanks for clarifying , I am with you now YB. Yes pity it is not clearer.

So if I let my imagination run a bit here I can now possibly see the woman holding 2 babies with her arm. One black hairy baby and one baby with no hair.

I wouldnt read too much into it mate. I cant help but try find things in photos. Thing is just the suggestion of what it could be makes it an interesting photograph. I will say though, and this is just my opinion of course, that the yowie or at least some, do look kind of indigenous...just covered in hair!

TheBlackStump wrote:Hi Mad Academic

Thanks for your feedback. My computer skills are pretty basic and I can not see what you are saying about photoshop.

Can anyone else confirm photoshop in photo

Cheers

Sorry,

It seems my attempt at wry humour went awry.
There is no "Photoshop" mark.
I'm just a bit "over" people trying to find things in old photos that really aren't there.
The usual explanation is "Paradolia".

MA

no probs MA

yes i understand and agree with what you are saying... that is why in my first few posts in this thread I held back saying anything and waited for someone else to spot it.

cheers

Yowie bait wrote:

TheBlackStump wrote:Ok thanks for clarifying , I am with you now YB. Yes pity it is not clearer.

So if I let my imagination run a bit here I can now possibly see the woman holding 2 babies with her arm. One black hairy baby and one baby with no hair.

I wouldnt read too much into it mate. I cant help but try find things in photos. Thing is just the suggestion of what it could be makes it an interesting photograph. I will say though, and this is just my opinion of course, that the yowie or at least some, do look kind of indigenous...just covered in hair!

Hey Y B

No i am not reading into it too much mate. As I said previously ... if I let my imagination run a bit here..... however what you pointed out is a possible point of interest IMO.

Anyway I will shoot a PM off and see if I can get more history , if possible , re the pic. If/when I get more history I will definitely post it . It would be cool if the negative was still around and in good nick and I could get another pic made up.

Cheers

TheBlackStump wrote:

Yowie bait wrote:

TheBlackStump wrote:Ok thanks for clarifying , I am with you now YB. Yes pity it is not clearer.

So if I let my imagination run a bit here I can now possibly see the woman holding 2 babies with her arm. One black hairy baby and one baby with no hair.

I wouldnt read too much into it mate. I cant help but try find things in photos. Thing is just the suggestion of what it could be makes it an interesting photograph. I will say though, and this is just my opinion of course, that the yowie or at least some, do look kind of indigenous...just covered in hair!

Hey Y B

No i am not reading into it too much mate. As I said previously ... if I let my imagination run a bit here..... however what you pointed out is a possible point of interest IMO.

Anyway I will shoot a PM off and see if I can get more history , if possible , re the pic. If/when I get more history I will definitely post it . It would be cool if the negative was still around and in good nick and I could get another pic made up.

Cheers

I just dont want to lead you on by pointing that out is all. I did think it was worth pointing out though, especially since you can see the spear in front.

I dont think everything is pareidolia either but it is a real problem as MA has pointed out. From what i have read and heard from people who have seen and observed or tried to observe them, yowies blend in so well with their surroundings that they could very well be a part of the forest themselves.

Hard to find with the naked eye or in a photograph!

That would be excellent if you could get hold of those negatives if they still exist.

Good on you for presenting something for discussion.

It looks like the person is wearing an emu pelt. Young male soon up for manhood initiation (maybe not that day)? The standing guys are all bearded too. Possible he's done the ritual but is still considered a newbie hence the pelt and postition.

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I just dont want to lead you on by pointing that out is all. I did think it was worth pointing out though, especially since you can see the spear in front.

I dont think everything is pareidolia either but it is a real problem as MA has pointed out. From what i have read and heard from people who have seen and observed or tried to observe them, yowies blend in so well with their surroundings that they could very well be a part of the forest themselves.

Hard to find with the naked eye or in a photograph!

That would be excellent if you could get hold of those negatives if they still exist.

Good on you for presenting something for discussion. [/quote]

Hey Y B

I would not expect to get the negative if it were still around but if it is still around my thought would be to offer to pay to get a print/s processed from it and perhaps there was more than one pic taken of the group and if so get prints of other pics also. A new print may give a clearer definition on r/h side of pic than exists on current pic. Bit of a longshot all around , but if you do not ask......

I have never had a hairy man sighting but have had an experience about 20 years ago approx which I clearly remember to this day and logic can not explain. I made a report about it last year to AYR. Another encounter from about the same time was reported here.
http://www.yowiehunters.com.au/index.ph ... wales-1997
My experience was indentical to that described in above link except my experience occurred during a cool/overcast afternoon in cooler months of the year. It was at the public boat ramp at Brooklyn. I had driven down from Central Coast and stopped car at boat ramp to get out to stretch my legs. No other persons were in the area at the time . Other sightings have also been previously made from the same area back about that time.

Re hairy man/yowies blending in... I have never heard of or read anywhere of the following happening . I was told of an experience of an indigenous man which occurred out Brewarrina NSW way. So the indigineous man was out on country just walking along and a hairy man/jungadee materialised out from the earth directly in front of him. Maybe there are other report/s of this happening ?

Cheers

TheBlackStump wrote: Re hairy man/yowies blending in... I have never heard of or read anywhere of the following happening . I was told of an experience of an indigenous man which occurred out Brewarrina NSW way. So the indigineous man was out on country just walking along and a hairy man/jungadee materialised out from the earth directly in front of him. Maybe there are other report/s of this happening ?


These discussions and opinions on the Yowie make for good reading but it gets us no closer to understanding what these creatures are. The above-underlined shows we really do need an analysis of this unexplained phenomena and until we get a satisfactory answer nothing will sway me on my beliefs on Yowies. There have been numerous inexplicable events reported but they all get pushed aside for the more academic approach.

Using UFO terminology I am only interested in close encounters of the first and fifth kind that is seeing a Yowie within 150 metres and direct communication between Yowies and humans and both of these have been reported on the Yowiehunters forum.

TheBlackStump wrote:Hi ChrisV

Thanks for your comments

Is it possible for you to provide a link to the previous discussions ?

My personal subjective observations of the pic are...

Re shadows ...I see that the young indigenous person on far right of pic is turned on more of an angle away from sun than others in pic which gives their front of torso skin a darker appearance .Personally I do not see any shadows from trees etc on any of the subjects in the photo including alleged hairy man.

The indigenous woman next to the alleged hairy man seems to me to be possibly distancing herself and leaning slightly away from alleged hairy man and encroaching on space of woman next to her.

All indigenous children in pic were placed in front of all adults in pic. All indigenous women are placed in second row in pic as is the alleged hairy man or maybe it may be a hairy woman. Alleged hairy man/woman is in the second row and is either kneeling , squatting or sitting. All indigenous men are in back row and are standing.

Sun can be seen on nose and one cheek skin of alleged hairy man/woman. The sun is hitting on left side of nose and left cheek of hairy man/woman appears to me to be hitting the face/cheek of hairy man/woman on same/similar angle as it hits all/most other persons in the pic. photo.

Brown patch seen on left side of head hair of alleged hairy man/woman is in my opinion hair shine from the sun and if you look at hair shine from sun on left side of head on some other persons in pic (depending on the angle each person is positioned in relation to the angle of sun ) you will see the same/similar hair shine on them as is seen on alleged hairy man/woman.

Hi BlackStump
I can't recall where that thread was but the picture has defintely been seen before and there was some discussion on it. I can not remember exactly where - sorry.
After revisiting it again after re-reading your comments, I still think its the case of light and as Dion said, a trick with older photographs showing bizzare effects.
Its a great pic to discuss and can actually promote some interesting discussion.
For eg :
If it was a Jungadee, would such an interaction with the local aboriginal community be possible? Would it happily sit and pose for a picture with the tribe? There has been talk of interactions of this type but I was under the impression that it was the elders who could sometimes communicate with them - and that is just a story that has been passed down! Also their apparent temprament was believed to be shy and reclusive?

I received this photo several years ago. Perhaps a higher Res...

As Chris says, it had been posted before.

The individual in question was no doubt very hairy. Simply a hairy person - who knows, however I suspect so.


DMH

TheBlackStump wrote:

I just dont want to lead you on by pointing that out is all. I did think it was worth pointing out though, especially since you can see the spear in front.

I dont think everything is pareidolia either but it is a real problem as MA has pointed out. From what i have read and heard from people who have seen and observed or tried to observe them, yowies blend in so well with their surroundings that they could very well be a part of the forest themselves.

Hard to find with the naked eye or in a photograph!

That would be excellent if you could get hold of those negatives if they still exist.

Good on you for presenting something for discussion. [/quote]

Hey Y B

I would not expect to get the negative if it were still around but if it is still around my thought would be to offer to pay to get a print/s processed from it and perhaps there was more than one pic taken of the group and if so get prints of other pics also. A new print may give a clearer definition on r/h side of pic than exists on current pic. Bit of a longshot all around , but if you do not ask......

I have never had a hairy man sighting but have had an experience about 20 years ago approx which I clearly remember to this day and logic can not explain. I made a report about it last year to AYR. Another encounter from about the same time was reported here.
http://www.yowiehunters.com.au/index.ph ... wales-1997
My experience was indentical to that described in above link except my experience occurred during a cool/overcast afternoon in cooler months of the year. It was at the public boat ramp at Brooklyn. I had driven down from Central Coast and stopped car at boat ramp to get out to stretch my legs. No other persons were in the area at the time . Other sightings have also been previously made from the same area back about that time.

Re hairy man/yowies blending in... I have never heard of or read anywhere of the following happening . I was told of an experience of an indigenous man which occurred out Brewarrina NSW way. So the indigineous man was out on country just walking along and a hairy man/jungadee materialised out from the earth directly in front of him. Maybe there are other report/s of this happening ?

Cheers[/quote]



Yowie bait says.

Hi Black stump
Sounds like The copy of the clearer photo Dean mentions is confirmation that it is actually a hairy man or hairy boy of some type. Still be nice to get a real good clear photo for a good look of they are saying its a junjudee.

There is a few reports of them dissapearing or running through trees and in partly transparent form.

Wellymon talks of them dissapearing in his" finally got to see the hairys" thread and i think in the "is the yowie a highly evolved hominid?" thread and the running though the tree account is in the " highly evolved" thread as well.

I spoke recently to a girl from far north Queensland. She told me the reports up there from the local Aboriginals are amazing. Another mate spends a lot of time up north and he says the tales from a few of the local trappers are equally astounding.

I dont see the point of having our minds made up about these things. Anything is possible and there are so many reports of the stranger behavior of yowies and bigfoot that there must be something to it.

Theres a reason people don't talk about this stuff!!

Is your encounter available to read? Sounds interesting!