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Roughly 6:20 into the video onwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUfqLMdZuGs

Despite the fact there's no yowies seen in the video, conjectures may be made from the evidence seen in the environment.

There's three plausible explanations for the den of sheep bodies which I can see, and the most likely and probable one is yowie interference from the conjectures available to be made.

1. Humans are using the area as a dumping pit to dispose of their dead livestock. If the heads are all ripped off and not cut off, I do not consider this to be a likely explanation. The amount of force required to do such a feat isn't an easy task for a human, let alone a normal practice.
Why would the farmers be ripping the heads off sheep which are already dead? They have no need to do that.

2. A human/humans have interfered with the corpses and taken them there, either a homeless person or cultists performing a ritual. However there is no evidence of fire indicative of cooking of the corpses if it was a homeless person, and there's no evidence in the environment seen of any ritualistic signs or symbols drawn in the dirt, candles etc, which would indicate a ritual was performed. The corpses had been stripped of flesh and the guts disposed, whatever did it ate the flesh raw.
Considering how far the walk was, how remote and hard to access the area was for a human as demonstrated in the first 7 minutes of the video, It doesn't seem to be a plausible explanation that a human dragged the carcasses up there to dump them either.

3. Yowies which have been reported to live near creeks and rivers on the outskirts of national parks, have stolen livestock and taken them to a den where they consume them raw, close to a drinking water and well out of the way of civilisation.
Whatever creature did it would require opposable thumbs to rip off the heads of sheep. There's no other plausible explanation for how so many heads could be ripped off the bodies of the sheep in the same area, and no wild animals could accomplish that feat to over 10+ sheep in the same area. It certainly wasn't wild dogs as they rip sheep into a hundred pieces.
Using deductive reasoning and the process of elimination, Yowie den seems to be the most likely explanation for the scenario seen in the video on the balance of probabilities, considering how unlikely the other two options are when considering the fact there is little to no evidence seen in the environment to support the other two conjectures.

Yep, and the violence committed on the sheep carcasses is beyond feeding.

That is a creature that is enjoying the killing for the killings sake.
I'd be keeping my kids well away from the site in case it gets a good whiff of their scent
and starts stalking.

Again I've experienced a touch of the craziness so I'm biased toward a Yowie as the culprit.

Chilling stiff mate.
Cheers

P.S

Anyone remember the Marcus Gormly death?

Found only half of his body and he was a six footer tank of a man.

Cheers

After watching the full video, the scene reminded me of this case...

MODERN AND RECENT REPORTS
11 june 2014 South coast: Body found decapitated

Members of the South Coast Bushwalking Club made a grisly discovery during an afternoon walk in the Royal National Park on Sunday.Club member and Wollongong resident Philip Allen was one of eight bushwalkers who had veered "off the beaten track" and discovered a tent with a badly decomposed body inside.

"We were hiking from Waterfall to Engadine via Audley and had lost the track and had been bush bashing for a number of hours when around 3pm we came across a secluded weather-beaten tent on a ledge and noticed a leg bone sticking out," Mr Allen, 67, said.

"We peeped in the tent and could see that the body was headless - maybe animals had got to it - and that it had obviously been there for some time as it was quite badly decomposed.

"As you get older you can handle these sorts of things a bit better, but we didn't stick around too long after that."

The group immediately contacted Engadine police on a mobile phone to notify them of the discovery and gave them the co-ordinates of their position.

It was very much off the beaten track and very rough country," Mr Allen said.

"We met the three police officers at a track junction and led them to the difficult-to-find location and waited until specialist police joined them.

"We then made our way to Engadine station, tying ribbons to trees at the request of the police so they could find their way back." Mr Allen said.

"We were happy that we were able to help."

A NSW Police media spokeswoman confirmed that a badly decomposed body had been found at a campsite on the Bottle Forest Loop fire trail near Kangaroo Creek in the national park.

The spokeswoman said a crime scene had been set up, although police did not believe there
were any suspicious circumstance

Here's another yowie den https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIsJkjImpdI

paulmcleod67 wrote:After watching the full video, the scene reminded me of this case...

MODERN AND RECENT REPORTS
11 june 2014 South coast: Body found decapitated

Members of the South Coast Bushwalking Club made a grisly discovery during an afternoon walk in the Royal National Park on Sunday.Club member and Wollongong resident Philip Allen was one of eight bushwalkers who had veered "off the beaten track" and discovered a tent with a badly decomposed body inside.

"We were hiking from Waterfall to Engadine via Audley and had lost the track and had been bush bashing for a number of hours when around 3pm we came across a secluded weather-beaten tent on a ledge and noticed a leg bone sticking out," Mr Allen, 67, said.

"We peeped in the tent and could see that the body was headless - maybe animals had got to it - and that it had obviously been there for some time as it was quite badly decomposed.

"As you get older you can handle these sorts of things a bit better, but we didn't stick around too long after that."

The group immediately contacted Engadine police on a mobile phone to notify them of the discovery and gave them the co-ordinates of their position.

It was very much off the beaten track and very rough country," Mr Allen said.

"We met the three police officers at a track junction and led them to the difficult-to-find location and waited until specialist police joined them.

"We then made our way to Engadine station, tying ribbons to trees at the request of the police so they could find their way back." Mr Allen said.

"We were happy that we were able to help."

A NSW Police media spokeswoman confirmed that a badly decomposed body had been found at a campsite on the Bottle Forest Loop fire trail near Kangaroo Creek in the national park.

The spokeswoman said a crime scene had been set up, although police did not believe there
were any suspicious circumstance

That's rightly fucked up...

Just another fucked up incident to add to the list with the dissapearance of John Shaw.. Rocky Eiao and the lack of coroners reports released and no official confirmed causes of death for these cases, which is an obvious indication of a coverup of information.

The official authoritarian response for "Fucked if we know but its bad!", is

"No suspicious circumstances and a report is being prepared for the coroner by police".

Then followed by a quick burial in a sealed casket whereby the victims family can't even view the body.
Missing people are briefly searched for en mass for about a week, generally in the wrong area.
Then their case files are shelved by authorities and rarely mentioned on mass electronic media.

Often times they turn up dead in bush land only a few miles from their homes in area's later found to have already
been searched. Nothing to see here move along....move along.

The official, bureaucratic shiny bum consensus is that six out of ten people are psychopaths, child abductors, wife beaters and get lost going to the local shops when on foot and of course that, we are all too stupid to identify our own kids let alone mythical monsters conjured up by ignorant peoples that never invented anything that creates more mess than it helps.

The reality is in fact the reverse. A high degree (pun intended) of "on paper " intellects are predisposed to mental instability, deviant behavior, neurosis and early death by misadventure or murder suicides. And from their high walled concrete encased towers the look upon the world from screens like the institutionalized prisoners they really are. Not that I'm cynical mind you....umm?

Cheers mate have enjoyed your posts.
Keep em coming.
Cheers

And to those that thought my last post above was a bit extreme...I offer this...

https://www.ministerjustice.gov.au/Medi ... fault.aspx


The Hon Michael Keenan MP
Minister for Justice
Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Counter-Terrorism

Wednesday, 15 November 2017

New Missing Persons Research to Inform Future Law Enforcement Efforts
Media release

Today I released the National Missing Persons Research Report: Missing Persons: Who's at Risk? which will inform our law enforcement agencies on the latest statistics on missing persons in Australia.

This research is the first of its kind in over a decade – commissioned by the Australian Federal Police's National Missing Persons Coordination Centre and undertaken by the Australian Institute of Criminology.

Between 2008 and 2015, over 305,000 missing persons reports were made to Australian state and territory police. In 2015, 40,580 missing person reports were received with almost half of these reports relating to young people aged 13 to 17 years – four times that of other age groups.

Young Australians were also found more likely to be reported missing a number of times. Data from the Northern Territory showed 42 percent of people reported missing three or more times in a given year were young people aged 13-17 years.

Data from Victoria shows elderly Australians, those suffering from a disability or mental health condition and individuals likely to cause self-harm or attempt suicide are at a higher risk of being reported missing. Five percent of reports related to people involved in domestic violence.

The report also showed more men were reported missing than women, except those aged between 13 and 17. Missing persons with a mental illness and those who commit suicide were more likely to be male and middle-aged.

These statistics are alarming. Our law enforcement agencies and their partners are doing excellent work to tackle the high number of missing Australians evident by most missing persons reports being resolved within 48 hours.

But every member of our community can help. If you have information about the whereabouts of a missing person please contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.


I just wanted to re-interate the figures quoted above

"Between 2008 and 2015, over 305,000 missing persons reports were made to Australian
state and territory police".

In 2015, 40,580 missing person reports were received with almost half of these reports relating to young people aged 13 to 17 years – four times that of other age groups".

345,580 people missing between 2008 and 2015 with the statistical anual addition of another 38,000 missing persons cases per anum since then.

So we can add roughly another 76,000 people the the stated 345,580.

Whilst the bulk of the case have good outcomes

1600 per year are long term and unsolved missing persons cases.

So lets apply that to the above statistics

THATS AN AVERAGE OF 14,000 UNSOLVED MISSING PERSON,S SINCE 2008

This does not include recovered human remains statistics.

Think about the size of a group of people numbering 14,000 standing in a given area....

Doofmagic wrote:
That's rightly fucked up...

Just another fucked up incident to add to the list with the dissapearance of John Shaw.. Rocky Eiao and the lack of coroners reports released and no official confirmed causes of death for these cases, which is an obvious indication of a coverup of information.

Language, young man, language.....

And by the way, that other word is spelled "disappearance".

gregvalentine wrote:

Doofmagic wrote:
That's rightly fucked up...

Just another fucked up incident to add to the list with the dissapearance of John Shaw.. Rocky Eiao and the lack of coroners reports released and no official confirmed causes of death for these cases, which is an obvious indication of a coverup of information.

Language, young man, language.....

And by the way, that other word is spelled "disappearance".

I have to admit I snorted my coffee across the table when I read "Language, young man, language..."

Only because I was reminded of Captain America's comment to Tony Stark of "Language" in the Second Avengers movie. No offence intended Greg...it was an involuntary laugh.

I better go wipe all that java up I suppose.

paulmcleod67 wrote:Yep, and the violence committed on the sheep carcasses is beyond feeding.

That is a creature that is enjoying the killing for the killings sake.
I'd be keeping my kids well away from the site in case it gets a good whiff of their scent
and starts stalking.

Again I've experienced a touch of the craziness so I'm biased toward a Yowie as the culprit.

Chilling stiff mate.
Cheers

There is no way you can tell how any of the animals in that video died simply by watching it. No way in the world. You can't say they died violently with any confidence at all - the claim is even outlandish.

Jim wrote: There is no way you can tell how any of the animals in that video died simply by watching it. No way in the world. You can't say they died violently with any confidence at all - the claim is even outlandish.

A big thumbs up for that comment Jim.
Finally someone talking sense.

Doofmagic wrote:Roughly 6:20 into the video onwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUfqLMdZuGs

Despite the fact there's no yowies seen in the video, conjectures may be made from the evidence seen in the environment.

There's three plausible explanations for the den of sheep bodies which I can see, and the most likely and probable one is yowie interference from the conjectures available to be made.

1. Humans are using the area as a dumping pit to dispose of their dead livestock. If the heads are all ripped off and not cut off, I do not consider this to be a likely explanation. The amount of force required to do such a feat isn't an easy task for a human, let alone a normal practice.
Why would the farmers be ripping the heads off sheep which are already dead? They have no need to do that.

2. A human/humans have interfered with the corpses and taken them there, either a homeless person or cultists performing a ritual. However there is no evidence of fire indicative of cooking of the corpses if it was a homeless person, and there's no evidence in the environment seen of any ritualistic signs or symbols drawn in the dirt, candles etc, which would indicate a ritual was performed. The corpses had been stripped of flesh and the guts disposed, whatever did it ate the flesh raw.
Considering how far the walk was, how remote and hard to access the area was for a human as demonstrated in the first 7 minutes of the video, It doesn't seem to be a plausible explanation that a human dragged the carcasses up there to dump them either.

3. Yowies which have been reported to live near creeks and rivers on the outskirts of national parks, have stolen livestock and taken them to a den where they consume them raw, close to a drinking water and well out of the way of civilisation.
Whatever creature did it would require opposable thumbs to rip off the heads of sheep. There's no other plausible explanation for how so many heads could be ripped off the bodies of the sheep in the same area, and no wild animals could accomplish that feat to over 10+ sheep in the same area. It certainly wasn't wild dogs as they rip sheep into a hundred pieces.
Using deductive reasoning and the process of elimination, Yowie den seems to be the most likely explanation for the scenario seen in the video on the balance of probabilities, considering how unlikely the other two options are when considering the fact there is little to no evidence seen in the environment to support the other two conjectures.

Seems to be a common theme here as to how Yowies despatch their prey by ripping the animals heads off.

One comment on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpSkTtxkQwE
Bruce MacKinnon
1 year ago
I know a truckie who carried stock through Pilliga- and one of his drivers was out ahead. He heard a commotion from the cattle he was carrying and the trailer started rocking. He pulled over-something you should never do at night in the Pilliga, took the torch out and looked at what was going on in the cattle boxes. Before he could take one look he was knocked over by the ripped off head of a cow. When he saw what was doing it, he got such a shock he ran all the way back to Coonabarabran without stopping. 30ks or more. Came back the next day with police. Six cattle were dead and headless in the top level of the truck.
The second driver the owner came through 4 hours later and when he got to the yards at Moree, he was told five cattle were headless in his load.

A guy from Nissan 4x4 forum (if I remember correctly), mentioned when he was driving through a dirt road in bunyip national park, he saw a carcass, hung on the top of a tree, with limbs stripped apart.

Regarding the video in the OP.

I think the biggest clue might be when the girl says "It's near where the dog tracks were"

The sheep carcass vid does not say where the property was.
I am not familiar with decomposing sheep but I did not see any wool/fleece on the ground anywhere and I thought I would see some.
So assuming it was a jungdee or dooligahl then it is said that jangadee are meat eaters and dooligahl are not meat eaters so in such case would it be reasonable to assume then that it could be jungadee that killled/ate the sheep.
Also I have read previously that jungadee are reported to wear animal skins/fur at times for warmth. So just another assumption that if it was a jungadee then perhaps the sheeps skin/wool was taken by jungadee to use to wear to keep warm or even maybe to use as a form of bedding.

Images of sheep decomposing.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=shee ... 17&bih=735

Some researchers found a similar thing with cattle bones inside a tree or stick construct. They did some actual research and asked around neighbouring properties only to find out the previous landowner lost a lot of cattle and dragged them there as a dumping ground. Apparently its quite common. Someone left a similar comment in the comnents section. Hope thats helps a bit with the mysterious yowie den. Anything that moves is a " yowie" on yowie chronicles. Lol

NO.
I DO have to deal with dead animal carcasses. I do dump them in secluded places on my property.
Doesn't every one? Really.
Stupid post/ thread.
The Hollywood style of some / this, YouTube video producers is haunting from the first moment, the music, then the bloodlike screen font, etc, etc, etc. he is searching for a certain viewer -that's you!
The more you check it out, the more money he makes. Lol.
These animal carcasses are in a well advanced sage of decomposition. They could be years ago. Lol.
Heads will come off easily when the meat has been eaten, and tendons have been chewed.
It would be hard to remove the head?.......no
NOT HARD, when there are Eagles, goannas, feral pigs, dogs, cats, and foxes.
Easy head removal when predated upon and also decomposed. The carcasses could also have been carried there by flood waters. IT is next to a creek/ river isn't it. Did any one think about a flood time???
Really , we have to be hard on our own evidence, so we are not discredited. If we accept every little bit of questionable evidence we become gullible fools. We have to be hard on the evidence that is offered. This producer doesn't care , but he is looking for " hits" which equals dollars for him.
Let's be hard on suggested evidence and be positive toward our goal.

Yowie Bait and Hillbilly. Glad to see critical thinking(common sense) being applied here.

Unfortunately it will be lost on the 'true believers' who will just skip past it to get to the next sensationalist post that feeds into their fantasy.

Heady stuff here, if you’ll pardon the pun.

Using your head will help sort the signal from the noise as hillbilly has done in his enlightening post. Well said!