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This Washington Post article about the head of the Pentagon's secret UFO office making evidence available to the public is worth a look, as is the F18 IR camera footage.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 9114898238

Hi Searcher,

Not sure if this is the same sighting in the link of your posts, but this clip is also interesting.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/12/ ... acrobatics

You are right, Yowie88, this story is growing legs! I also saw it on the Channel 9 site this morning.
It has been on most of the world's major news sources.
Commander David Fravor thought "it was not from this world".

Searcher wrote:You are right, Yowie88, this story is growing legs! I also saw it on the Channel 9 site this morning.
It has been on most of the world's major news sources.
Commander David Fravor thought "it was not from this world".

Yes its great footage. Can't really discount that.

If you watch carefully the object tilts whilst moving - very strange indeed.

ChrisV wrote:

Searcher wrote:You are right, Yowie88, this story is growing legs! I also saw it on the Channel 9 site this morning.
It has been on most of the world's major news sources.
Commander David Fravor thought "it was not from this world".

Yes its great footage. Can't really discount that.

If you watch carefully the object tilts whilst moving - very strange indeed.

Notice also the great big "hush" among the community of doubters!

Huumm lol.

As ever, though, a blanket of silence has descended - the story, which would seem to be a newsworthy one from a valid source, is already yesterday's news.

It's already been 'dismissed' as "experimental drone technology" that the pilots who recorded the vision weren't aware of. That seems to be the party line that the mass media are going along with.

If Air Force pilots were flying in an area where secret drones were being tested, wouldn't it have been someone's job to maybe - for example - not let that happen? Wouldn't someone in authority be aware of things like that ahead of time and ensure that the top-secret stuff wasn't going to be recorded by anyone without the clearance to know about it? Even assuming that was someone's job and they stuffed up right royally we'll never know at any rate...but it seems like such an obvious cop-out to me.

At least the "experimental drone technology" explanation is a bit more creative than the "swamp gas" versions we have been asked to swallow in the distant past...

Let's face it, the "powers that be" or the government funded debunkers (like Seth Shostak and Jill Tarter) will always come up with some alternative view. That's what they do.

For example, skeptics say the mile wide craft that flew low over Phoenix, Arizona in 1997 and was witnessed by many 1000's of people were just flares dropped by the military.... Wrong! I prefer to believe the eye witness reports that included airline and civilian pilots who all say they actually saw a huge boomerang shaped object moving slowly and silently above them.

The mass media (or rather, those whose interests they serve) will always spin things to maintain their version of the status quo. Unless something dramatic and irrefutable occurs (possibly involving multiple people live streaming or uploading to the web en masse images that no one can possibly explain away), they'll always come up with a pissweak cover story.

There are too many glimpses of oddness that manage to slip through the veil of BS for me to accept any 'official version' of events. I'm not sure exactly what we're seeing in that video but it's something a bit more interesting than drones.

Simon, are you me? Hahaha. You seem to have a very similar train of thought as what I do regarding this subject, and present your views so clearly and succinctly.

Shazz

Thanks, Shazz.

I think that, if you're someone regularly posting here, you've already managed to think your way out of the mainstream world view that prevails in the mass media and much of society. There are layers of understanding, and on some level everyone knows that most of what's shown in the media is questionable to say the least. The extent to which a person consciously acknowledges this and behaves/speaks accordingly varies from one individual to another.

As I've said before by posting here and saying "I think there could be Yowies" we all label ourselves as part of what 95% of people would call 'the lunatic fringe'. Just discussing the possibility of Yowies would garner you some funny looks and some rude comments in most social settings - not to mention most of the internet.

Let's not even get started on UFO's.

Basically I'm prepared to accept a whole range of different possibilities within the bounds of known physics, recorded history and common sense. I still think these are living, breathing animals - not demons from an ancient religious text - and I still think that science will show us this some day. I also accept that there are a number of pervasive societal influences that have an interest in keeping the majority of people ignorant and compliant.

So all is not as it seems...I think we can all agree on that much no matter what our beliefs about Yowies may be. There is more going on in the world than certain influential groups would have the rest of us believe. Most of this is to do with money, some of it is to do with religion or politics and some is to do with common bigotry and ignorance. Some of it is a combination of all these things.

I believe that there are scientifically unidentified animals in Australia and that sometimes people see them. That's all I can say with any certainty. It's still a belief, however, and nothing more.

Simon M wrote:

Let's not even get started on UFO's.

Hey Simon... it's OK!!
You can if you want to. After all, this is the UFO section of the forum...

Well the Phoenix lights are pretty concrete that they were not military exercises. Too many people witnessed it and the flare theory is rubbish. I think its safe to say that a large triangular object with lights decided to fly nice and low over Phoenix and put on a show. If it was 1-2 people then you could challenge it - but thousands? Nope.
The footage from the F-18 aircraft is again very compelling. Its official video ( whatever that means! ) . The air force has released it without comment and left it open to public debate. Personally I think it looks pretty interesting. The smoking gun for me is the comments regarding the take off speed which leaves the pilots in awe. Such a reoccurring theme when these crafts depart the scene.

This kind of stuff makes life interesting.

Definitely.

The official silence you mentioned is telling. It's like that whole 'if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all' stuff your Mum tells you when you're a kid. They can't comment without inviting more questions than they want to answer, so they don't comment at all. In this case, they've decided that dishonesty is the best policy...and the simple fact that so few people question this is the amazing part, I think.

If they say they cannot explain something then they believe they risk 'causing a panic', so just coming up with the old 'it was probably a weather balloon' type of answer seems to be their default position.

I really think that, now more so than ever before, people in general are ready to know and accept whatever the truth of this stuff may happen to be. There are a larger number of reasonably well educated people spread across the world now than there have been in a really long time, and I doubt anyone's life would be radically changed by knowing what the heck's actually in that video (and others like it).

I think fear of a mass uprising (or something like it) is what fuels the need the 'powers that be' feel to control and suppress so much information. The world that spawned the French Revolution is long gone, but the fear that the super-rich have that their precious 'global economy' might be harmed (depriving them of their fair share of the world's yachts, tax-havens, mansions and expensive prostitutes) is what drives the suppression of knowledge, which is increasingly becoming the most precious commodity of this Century.

Once the time comes that enough people have 3D printers that they can design and make their own stuff with (no need for so many factories), and renewable energy is the norm (mines a thing of the past), how will the super rich remain so? Information access and the control of primary industries will be the way they'll go (Gina and her Chinese business partners have started investing heavily in Australian cattle farms...I wonder why?).

Sorry. Ranting again.

Yes, I think it'd be helpful if the general populace were allowed to know what the hell is going on. It'd be good if factual became the new normal. Not that I'm holding my breath for that to happen. Lots of old fashioned ideas have to go the way of the dinosaurs before we'll have a genuinely informed and honest debate about some of this stuff.

There are updates and more video on the Pentagon UFO story on today’s (March 13) ABC News site.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-13/u ... re/9542484