Yowie Manifesto

[David]

I know quite a few people from this forum over the years so thought I'd post here about what I'm up to for those interested. Having recently come back to the forum, and having this week moved interstate, I have had time to reassess where I am going with Yowie Research and what I now believe after 8 years dabbling in this madness. I have to admit that after a short while I allowed myself to get carried away being so sure I could prove this thing in short order. Eventually, and I offer this as a warning to people new to research, this became, for me, an unhealthy obsession that lasted 5 years. I have now deleted or made private all video from my past research for the reasons I have written in the link. I am going to continue my research but plan to do it differently from now on. If I publish anything it will be done in my own name from now on.

https://daverohanreid.blogspot.com.au/2 ... festo.html

Cheers Dave

[Dion]

Hi Dave

Stick to what you believe in, if that be for instance a change of heart then go for it, if it be something else then thats fine as well.

We are all entitled to believe in what we want.

My opinions have changed drastically over the years especially from when I first started. We all go through the same processes.

Cheers

[David]

Thanks Dion.. I have anguished over this more than one should. The frustrations I have felt over the years certainly invoked many theories that in the end were just that.. theories and the yowie world is full of them. All I know is that there is 'something' going on with these creatures far beyond our current understanding and sometimes wild speculation just muddies the waters. If DNA analysis in the United States, and I am presuming the bigfoot/sasquatch and the Yowie are similar creatures, that the possibility of them being some form of human hybrid may be the answer we are looking for. But that presumes the human female mitochondrial and the male unknown.. just what the unknown is might lend an idea to the yowies extraordinary ability to remain hidden from the scientific method. It's all as clear as mud. All I know is personally I need to change my outlook on these creatures and any method of research.. like the saying goes.. if you keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. A recipe for dissapointment and at the end of the day a pointless exercise.

[Dion]

Hi Dave

Try not to get too stressed about it, theories is all we have frustrating as that may be, even if some see that as pointless its a building block to do more and discuss how to do things better or its simply a trigger response for people who cant handle the possibility of some paranormal phenomenon. Its good that you are at least asking yourself the questions. Your right though DNA concept is a conundrum, I have my thoughts on it but I'll leave it there, other than to say I dont think results will come any time soon.

I just look at some of the facts as of what we have now coming from ordinary people, some of these include;

1. They are big, some small.

2. A heap of eyewitness reports of a "Hairy Giants" that seems to roam the world sometimes in suburban areas? or areas where they should not survive?.

3. They are seen one minute and gone the next.

4. Require a population of high proportion operating in groups of three to four at a minimum to sustain life. Yet they are most often seen solitary.

5 .They are sometimes accompanied by an irrational fear of dread, the forests go quiet.

6. They are sometimes accompanied by a strong Sulphur like smell.

7. Reports of Psychic abilities, telepathy and reports of vanishing into thin air.

8. They evade the camera.

9. They seem to predominately be more active at night when night vision should be low for a so called "ape species".

10. Sometimes reported with glowing eyes which range in colour.

11. Footprints show no consistency, two, three, five, six toed prints. Stop/start suddenly.

12. With the human population growing, no bones have ever been recovered that we know of, no specimen, fossil records. (some may beg to differ)

13. Reports of them seen near or around UFOs and other phenomenon.

14. They act more like a Ghost or Poltergeist phenomenon.

15. Indigenous cultures often describe them as being spiritual beings.

etc

I could go on and on, of course the scientific mind will not accept what's been suggested above, somehow they filter out these cases/reports and only believe that a Giant colony of Hairy Apes lives and breathes in the forests of the world and has somehow been able to out smart or evade detection for thousands of years.

With no proof whatsoever of anything that would give the scientific community a purely flesh and blood creature I am not sure why people cling to the hope of it being one. Just some of my ranting thoughts.

[sensesonfire]

Good list Dion here's a couple more.
1. reversed footprints
2. the ability to levitate
3. able to run at tremendous speeds with very little arm or leg movement
4. has been seen in a pixelated form.

[David]

Thankyou Senses.. I am developing a more open mind to this stuff everyday. Great list by the way. Well thought out and expressed.

[Yowie bait]

I know quite a few people from this forum over the years so thought I'd post here about what I'm up to for those interested. Having recently come back to the forum, and having this week moved interstate, I have had time to reassess where I am going with Yowie Research and what I now believe after 8 years dabbling in this madness. I have to admit that after a short while I allowed myself to get carried away being so sure I could prove this thing in short order. Eventually, and I offer this as a warning to people new to research, this became, for me, an unhealthy obsession that lasted 5 years. I have now deleted or made private all video from my past research for the reasons I have written in the link. I am going to continue my research but plan to do it differently from now on. If I publish anything it will be done in my own name from now on.

https://daverohanreid.blogspot.com.au/2 ... festo.html

Cheers Dave

Great to read your experienced observations Dave. Sounds to me like youve learned quite a lot about our hairy friends. Enough to realize that there is something very odd going on with them.

I think the audio is the way to go. Im sure they have been captured on camera but just nothing solid or convincing enough. I think eventually with mega or giga pixel digital camera technology and multiple burst shots that maybe its possible but we are a long way from that atm!

Just my opinion of course!

[David]

I agree Yowie Bait.. better technology might help.. I'm reminded of Yowiedans video which I think is the real deal.. interesting though he caught it by accident.

[Yowie bait]

I agree Yowie Bait.. better technology might help.. I'm reminded of Yowiedans video which I think is the real deal.. interesting though he caught it by accident.

Yes its interesting that Dan caught that one on video when he was distracted and not actually looking for it. Funny that as if they know? Im sure they realise we are looking for them.

Your peeking figure is interesting as well. You can see it approach from the shadow but if you enlarge it, then it appears to be transparent. Very freaky indeed!!

Would love to see Bigfoot Tony or similar break both videos down.

[David]

Yeah.. I pondered my video for a long time but I don't think about it anymore. It quite disturbed me at the time discovering that something had been so close to me without my knowing. Unfortunately it was a very cheap camera even for back then and the light was fading at the time I placed the camera.. after lots of thought it was probably a person in a balaclava.. illegal bow hunter perhaps in the national park. I really don't know what it was but it made me very wary of being alone in the bush for a while... I actually traveled to Dan's spot in the Blue Mountains where he filmed that subject and measured the rockface where it went around the corner. Must have been nearly 9 feet from memory. I still think its the best peice of video evidence out there and having been to the spot and looked up from where the tree break was I am convinced it was what we are looking for.

[Yowie bait]

Yeah Dave i dont know what else Dans image could be. A nine ft stalker perhaps?
Ive had a good look at your image and can see how it could be a balaclava or material but too hard to call.

More worrying if it wasnt a yowie! Maybe trying to give you a scare off otherwise why look at camera?

[David]

Have to put that one in the too hard basket I'm afraid mate. If only the image was better.

[Yowie bait]

Have to put that one in the too hard basket I'm afraid mate. If only the image was better.

Yes i agree. Too hard basket for sure. I gotta few of them too.

[Black]

Australopithecineoz,
I've noticed there is no "Hall of Fame" section where longtime researchers such as yourself can announce your results, your conclusions, and your theories as a result of all your time spent and hard work.

A Hall of Fame section would allow fellow researchers and visitors alike, to compare work and achievements at a glance, as well as promoting a feeling of achievement for the researcher.

At present, veteran researchers such as yourself, express achievements in random fashion on threads like this, in different sections, at different times. sprinkled through years of posts on this forum. Words are easily lost in the mix, and the deserving merits and appreciation rightly yours, is never felt. I believe your research is important, and important enough to be included in an Ayr HALL OF FAME section.

Is a Hall of Fame, a board feature, members need to vote for?

[David]

Thankyou Black but to be honest I don't think I know anything more really than when I started. There are many other researchers on this forum who legitimately deserve recognition. I am at an end to what I can do to contribute until I formulate a different method of some type or another and I don't know what that is at the moment. All I know is if I keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result then I am kidding myself. But I do appreciate your kind thoughts.

[Simon M]

There really are people who post here who've put in a great deal of time, effort and money and they deserve to be recognised for it, I agree.

Sadly, as I've often said, we're all essentially declaring ourselves as members of what the mainstream would call 'the lunatic fringe' just by posting here and discussing this topic rationally. You're always going to be labelled as a nutter unless you toe the line and speak about this topic in the required tone (ridicule, disdain, derision). We all know that, and I don't think that anyone even expects to get that one video or image that convinces the scientific community, or even the general public, that this is anything more than just a story people tell around the campfire.

Everyone interested in this topic, even total armchair warriors like me, is well aware that the issue is so complex (and our knowledge of it so limited) that unless you have virtually limitless funds and inexhaustible enthusiasm you've got no hope of ever achieving very much of anything. I know that sounds fatalistic, but that's what I've learned from reading what actual field-researchers have written here. To work so hard, and gain so little seems soul destroying.

Even if I had the money and the physical capacity, I don't think I'd attempt to find these creatures. I'm already convinced they're there, even if I cannot be sure exactly what they are. It's a belief I've had for many years, and one I cannot back up with anything other than anecdotal evidence.

[sensesonfire]

While I basically agree with most of what of what AustralopithecineOz and Simon M has stated I'm not sure about Blacks ''Hall of Fame'' suggestion. None of Yowie/Bigfoot researchers can claim fame to anything as that in my view would require tangible evidence that these cryptids exist. Although we all know that they do it cannot be proven at present but I think that will occur sometime down the track under totally different circumstances that we might expect.
As AustralopithecineOz has indicated "Thankyou Black but to be honest I don't think I know anything more really than when I started."
I think that applies to all of us.
Here we have all this documentation of, we hope, evidence that these creatures exist but nothing can actually be verified and I sadly suggest that the ''unbelievers'' believe they hold the upper hand.
A physical creature, yes, ( I now refuse to use the term ''flesh and blood'') but also a supernatural being that every indigenous person around the world who have had contact with Bigfoot/Yowie will affirm too. That is why these beings will always stay more than one step ahead of we humans.
Although at the moment it does seem like a game of the dog chasing its tail we must continue on the trail because I'm certain we will discover the truth.
There's an example of me not stating anything different than when I first started.

[Yowie bait]

A hall of fame for people pursuing a hobby? That is preposterous!

[Black]

On the contrary, Australopithecineoz. You have have learnt a great deal about this mystery, and you are closer to solving it than you think. It may seem that you know nothing more than when you first started, but if you sat down and really thought about it, you'd find that isn't true.

If you set forth to prove the yowie is flesh and blood or can be photographed like any normal creature, I'm sure you have a long list of attempts and strategies that didn't work. Likewise, I'm sure you have a long list of experiences in the bush, that allude to a spiritual being.

While you think you have failed, you actually haven't. It is no coincidence that nobody has ever filmed or photographed an old person. Perhaps your attempts and experiences help affirm the old people are not an undiscovered race of people like the pygmies were?

When I say hall of fame, I mean hall of discovery in this social circle.

[Wolf]

I like the concept.
It would tidy things up a bit, dim down the 'noise'...

Not sure how exactly it would work though...

[Yowie bait]

I can see the point for archiving valid research but hall of fame seems silly to me.

[Black]

Silly, huh? If you can think of a better way of archiving research, yowiebait, be my guest. What hasn't worked or may have worked, is beneficial information. Unless you're afraid people will find out something embarrassing?

[Yowie bait]

Silly, huh? If you can think of a better way of archiving research, yowiebait, be my guest. What hasn't worked or may have worked, is beneficial information. Unless you're afraid people will find out something embarrassing?

No im not afraid Black. Good luck with that.

[Yowie bait]

That actually sounds like a personal threat there Black. Since my laptop was hacked last night then i may have to be a bit suss on that last comment. " something embarrassing" hmmm??

[Black]

Boy, you must really be sweating right now, hey yowiebait?

Imagine when everybody finds out what you did?

[Yowie bait]

Boy, you must really be sweating right now, hey yowiebait?

Imagine when everybody finds out what you did?

I am sweating but nothing to do with you. I am worried about my security though and dont appreciate the personal artack or accusation or whatever it is so you win and i am asking admin to delete my account. Im sure there will he a lot of happy forum members. Serves me right for being a smartass i guess....

[Black]

Why would you make an assumption the hacking of your computer had anything to do with this site or members on this site? My question about something embarrassing was frivolous, not directed at you or anyone.

You sir, are paranoid. Suddenly you're running scared like a rabbit in the headlights. I wonder what you've been up to?

It was probably just the police remotely checking out your downloads. Nothing to worry about I'm sure.

[hillbilly]

A Hall of Fame would be a great idea. Lets make one, shall we.....when one of us has actual proof.
There is really no point to having a Hall of Fame for researchers with our inconclusive blobsquatch pics and hair samples.
No.

[hillbilly]

I am just wary of contributors who lack cred, suggest that greatness/ fame has been overlooked, proffer hollow compliments in a general act of flattery. It just smells.

[Black]

Hillbilly, there is nothing hollow about acknowledging work. Am I the only one that sensed the futility in australopithecineoz's title post? I already explained why a Hall of "something" is important without anyone proving anything.

Otherwise each of the individual researchers and the work they've done, will gradually slip into obscurity with no acknowledgement, as if they were never here.

I find it odd. This is a site and forum centred on research, is it not? Research is the bread and butter. Yet, people's research efforts can go by totally unrecognised?