Yowiehunters Forum

hillbilly wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:15 am I have used day/ night trail cameras for nearly ten years, and gone through a half a dozen of them, and my FLIR scout just this year with no luck. It has been mentioned a million times that they are sensitive to the IR detectors, which I agree with.
I was thinking I might get a camera set on time lapse only. So no infa red detections. Has anybody tried this? My concern is the night flash, which is supposed to be virtually invisible, might be a deterrent.
And, has anyone used Black Flash Cameras?

Dion wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:07 am I posted this up somewhere else but for all you others you may wish to see this Sony's iso capability.

Pretty awesome.

I'm gobsmacked at the capabilities of that Sony camera!!

It literally turns night into day. Night stalking Yowies and the likes... BEWARE! The cover of darkness is gone forever.

Searcher wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm gobsmacked at the capabilities of that Sony camera!!

It literally turns night into day. Night stalking Yowies and the likes... BEWARE! The cover of darkness is gone forever.

Yowieman27 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:29 pm Does anyone think carrying a gopro around would be good for footage and sounds?

JohnnyAnonymous wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:28 am I've had a theory now for years that no one seems to want to try with the argument that it would be too difficult for someone to do. I'd like to add that I think this would work best and tried with the no glow Trail-cams. I also think that now with the lighter-weight tree ladders (for deer hunters, etc) that this is more possible than what it was 6-10 years ago.

It revolves around the idea that our bipedal target is more prone to look forward rather than upward (visually on plane with the horizon). My idea is simple enough to climb a good height on a a tree and aim the camera at an downward angle. This (might) take care of the possible lense appearing to look like an eye (which might encourage the fight or flight urge), and also the Ir would not be triggered unless the subject was more directly below the camera.

With it being up at a higher altitude say perhaps 25 feet or more (depending on your cameras FOV and IR strength obviously) your also eliminating the smaller targets that are going to 'false' trigger the camera. With the sensor not pointing at tree branches (and other), you'll not have those false triggers and a card full of useless shots. With the smaller cameras able to now stay observant for up to 6 months on 8 AA batteries, once placed, you could leave it undisturbed for a lengthy time (which would not draw attention to your camera-base).

Also with it up substantially higher, your chance of detection should drop, (as I believe they are very observant of their environment, leaves, branches on ground, rocks, etc). Also if they did observe it and tried to take it down, this would lend more proof that a smaller animal didnt (the process of elimination). And if they climb a tree to take down the camera, you have a greater percentage of possible prints and hair samples to collect. This also would be a discouragement to that other animal "Man" from seeing and possibly stealing the camera (to much work for most thieves).

This idea came from a number of years ago when I was shown footage of a (supposed) Sasquatch walking below a birds nest of eagles that had a camera above the birds (which also included the ground below).

The other idea I had was a hollowed out tree stump with 3 cut out holes for the camera lense (in a triangular fashion to cover more area). The holes would be covered with Womens hose (thats what they're called here in the USA). It's sheer enough to shoot through yet even up close, you can barely see anything beyond it.

We used to use (back in the old days of photography) 'womens hose' as means to soften the picture up. This would be something of course that would translate over in this case too, but if it captures the target, I'll take soft-focus versus Blurry-BlobSquatch.

AnyWho... A few thoughts that I thought I'd toss into the mix here,
Johnny

JohnnyAnonymous wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:32 pm
Please excuse my very rough attempts of drawing, thank goodness I'm better with recording devices. The hose would be stretched and covering the cut-outs. This original concept I had was for over here in the USA, but I'm sure could be modified.

Stump Gifting.jpg

JohnnyAnonymous wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:16 pm From what I've been gleaning from watching your videos and reading your posts of your own experiences, the Yowie's run a completely different game-plan, yes?

Rusty2 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:23 am

JohnnyAnonymous wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:16 pm From what I've been gleaning from watching your videos and reading your posts of your own experiences, the Yowie's run a completely different game-plan, yes?

What the yowie does depends on what your doing . I go into the forest anonymously wearing normal clothes . They have no idea what I'm doing , who I am or what I've left behind . This leaves them in the dark and they react . The reaction can be aggressive or passive . The reaction is automatically caught on audio and sometimes on the cameras . I visit that place once and move to the next piece of forest and repeat the procedure .

If you can catch them in a time lapse sequence then there's the possibility of hair and footprint collection which will add weight to you time lapse sequence . This completely ignores anything about them and relies on their curiosity alone . No friendships . They walk into the trap (camera and audio trap). This is a whole lot cheaper than habituation and it's more about information collection , building a body of evidence . Having audio recorders and cameras running 24/7 has served me well and produced some thought provoking audio and time lapse sequences .

If you want to build a relationship they can be quite friendly , anything but aggressive . But this comes at a cost . Do you want to make friends or will you be pretending to be friends , because they know the difference , their just like us . A true friendship means no electronics . I wore an audio recorder on my visits and still managed to collect information . A true friendship will grow , a false friendship won't .

I made friends with a small group and it was very rewarding , no electronics , I became very attached to them but decided in the end to leave them alone . I pursued information collection instead which for me was the right decision .

I think Ron Morehead's audio is just amazing .

I'm not trying to tell you what to do , I'm just relaying what happened with me , hope this helps .

Rusty2 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:23 am

JohnnyAnonymous wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:16 pm From what I've been gleaning from watching your videos and reading your posts of your own experiences, the Yowie's run a completely different game-plan, yes?

I made friends with a small group and it was very rewarding , no electronics , I became very attached to them but decided in the end to leave them alone . I pursued information collection instead which for me was the right decision .