Pintupi-1 Skull

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Pintupi-1 Skull

Prediction: there will be the discovery of non-sapiens hominid skeletal remains in Australia sometime in the next ten years. Did they already find them years ago at Kow swamp? And lake Mungo?

lf Pintupi-1 was found in Indonesia you’d have to ask would it be seen as H.sapiens? If floresiensis could get to Flores I can’t see why erectus or an erectus/denisova couldn’t get to oz. And we have the evidence for the latter in Australasian/Melanesian DNA

[inthedark]

Great pics, and an interesting comparison!

My only beef is that the final skull (modern human) is overtly caucasoid. It also appears to have an unnaturally tall and rounded (fill in) cranial piece. I would submit that this is an unusual example of modern human - probably from pure Nordic stock. A skull from a mixed race Eurasian or similar would be the best representation of the 'universal' modern human. I suspect such a skull would also be more in line with the first two examples.

[aaq]

Interesting jaw, brow line, eye sockets.

Does anybody know if other related bones were found, eg femur, pelvis, humerus?

I note in this post, relating to Kow Swamp, that the excavation was not completed and bones were inhumed at the request of the local indigenous people(s):
http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.p ... amp#p54212

Was Pintupi/Pintubi-1 met with a similar response or was further excavation undertaken?

[AL Pitman]

Well they all appear to be very happy anyway
TGIF

[Slats]

I think they still would describe it as H.sapiens because the age doesn't fit the "known" fossil record. It's too far a stretch for academia to say that it's possible that H.erectus lived along side modern humans into modern times.
If it doesn't seem to fit the accepted model seemingly it gets described as something it may not be and pushed aside.

Like the QLD site dated to 80k years, it was hottly contested and now the VIC site that's dated 120k years.
A big rethink is needed to take into account the data that is being found.

[Austral]

I was at Kow Swamp in the seventies as a school kid when the Kow Swamp skulls were being dug up. Initially found by accedent with an excavator but there was later, university ( thats what i thought ) students and teachers from Melbourne looking for bones also. Absolutely no Aboriginal involvement what so ever and nobody even thought that they were Aboriginal skulls because anyone that saw them knew they were something else !
Only later the bones were " claimed" by the Echuca black fellas ( Yorta ) and were put somewhere secret and not re buried at the site. I remember one went over seas somewhere but i cant remember where.
A farmer brought a skull into school to show us and thats when the whole class rode our bikes out for a look.
I know the exact location and often drive past it and wonder if there is any more there.

[Wolf]

Great pics, and an interesting comparison!

My only beef is that the final skull (modern human) is overtly caucasoid. It also appears to have an unnaturally tall and rounded (fill in) cranial piece. I would submit that this is an unusual example of modern human - probably from pure Nordic stock. A skull from a mixed race Eurasian or similar would be the best representation of the 'universal' modern human. I suspect such a skull would also be more in line with the first two examples.

I have received similar 'beefs' in the comments section of my video about the Pintubi-1 skull (I will link it below).
But if you look closely you can see a number of factors in the P-1 skull that are 'non-H. sapiens sapiens'...
to whit: enormous eye sockets, sagital keel, pronounced occipital bun, and wide space between nose and top teeth.

As stated in my video, a mould was sent to an Anthropology professor at Michigan U, who noted the skull was akin to H. erectus...
https://youtu.be/DHDQXQrvYRQ

[Yowie bait]

I was at Kow Swamp in the seventies as a school kid when the Kow Swamp skulls were being dug up. Initially found by accedent with an excavator but there was later, university ( thats what i thought ) students and teachers from Melbourne looking for bones also. Absolutely no Aboriginal involvement what so ever and nobody even thought that they were Aboriginal skulls because anyone that saw them knew they were something else !
Only later the bones were " claimed" by the Echuca black fellas ( Yorta ) and were put somewhere secret and not re buried at the site. I remember one went over seas somewhere but i cant remember where.
A farmer brought a skull into school to show us and thats when the whole class rode our bikes out for a look.
I know the exact location and often drive past it and wonder if there is any more there.

Hey Austral that is amazing you got to see those skulls. It may have been you that mentioned in another thread that the actual skulls looked much different to the one depicted in the photographs?

[Austral]

Hi Yowie bait, yeah that was me. As a 10 year old,i may have seen things differently than what they actually are but i remember really large eye sockets and big brow ridges which is like the picture but the forehead sloped back more and the jaw was massive and i have asked some old class mates and we thought they had canine teeth also and several years ago i was talking to my Dad about them and he said they had them too.
Also when you picked one up it felt like it was an inch thick but it probably wasnt quite that. They say they are 10 thousand years old or something but didnt look it.

[Yowie bait]

Hi Yowie bait, yeah that was me. As a 10 year old,i may have seen things differently than what they actually are but i remember really large eye sockets and big brow ridges which is like the picture but the forehead sloped back more and the jaw was massive and i have asked some old class mates and we thought they had canine teeth also and several years ago i was talking to my Dad about them and he said they had them too.
Also when you picked one up it felt like it was an inch thick but it probably wasnt quite that. They say they are 10 thousand years old or something but didnt look it.

Wow thats interesting, especially about the Canine teeth which do get reported with sightings along with human or horse type teeth and very large mouths.

They would need a thick skull to go running head first through tough foliage as well.

Certainly something odd happened there by the sounds of it. You and your school mates may have been holding a yowie skull!

[aaq]

This is an interesting one, four skulls from Victoria. I have just seen it on Gary Opit's page from August.

https://forgottenorigin.com/media-relea ... ld-history

Gary Opit's Facebook page has some short discussion and this article talks in more detail.