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Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:47 am
by Bluedog
OK, I've been fascinated by this for near on 40 years, but the more I read, listen, look, I'm no closer to an answer.
Why after over near on 250 years of colonisation, we have no concrete proof of existence that the scientific world would acknowledge?
The same can be said wherever in the world these creatures are encountered, be them yowie, yeren, sasquatch, almasty, orang pendek.
I am a believer, there is enough evidence on this site alone to make most open minded people to consider, OK there is something going on.
Surely with the technology available today if these creatures exist we would have the proof.
So I would like to throw it out there. If they are flesh and blood (jury is still out there) how have they eluded us for so long?
There are people on this site that have spend alot of $$$ and time in the field looking for answers!
Hats of to you for being so dedicated!!!
I'm interested in what you believe we are dealing with?
I appreciate that it's a work in progress for alot of field researchers, but would be very interested in your findings or believes so far.
Whatever if or what you choose to share, opinions, beliefs, speculations.
Anything feedback is greatly appreciated.
Cheers from the Bluedog.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:10 am
by Tracker74
All excellent questions and your certainly not on your own thinking this way. I myself have ponded all these questions and find it extremely hard to come to any sort of answers in regards to Yowies being of flesh and blood. I'm certainly not saying their not but the immense lack of evidence supports the case that they may not be.
I believe that the Yowie is truly a master of disguise and can blend in with its surroundings and when you take into consideration that 90% of hikers/bushwalkers when out and about aren't actually looking for evedence but are just out to enjoy the outdoors could simply overlook a Yowie not 10 feet away. I think that they have adopted and master the saying and practice of hiding in plain sight to their advantage.
One thing that I'm looking into and working on is trying to establish if the Yowie has certain patterns when wandering about other than the usual 'hotspots.' My thinking is, if it is of flesh and blood don't try to follow the Yowie but follow the food source. You'll read a lot of sightings suggesting that juvenile Yowies have been seen and heard so this tells me that breeding is actually taking place. Now one would think that if this is the case the adult Yowie must have a stable diet of a wide range of fruits, nuts and meat to sustain their young. So this is my thinking that certain times of year we could put the Yowie in certain locations possibly fruit orchards ect.
Another factor I'm looking into and certainly some evidence suggests that a few more sightings have occurred in the months of January and February now I've put this down to the breeding season of the Wallaby, maybe just a coincidence, maybe not I'm still looking for evidence to support this. I have tracked a number of animals throughout oz for a hobby in several states but I'll admit the Yowie is a complete mystery. Again the lack of physical evedence of even the basics of something of flesh and blood just isn't there...... Yet.
So as always with my physical evedence hat on but slightly put to the back of my mind for now I am exploring the paranormal side of things which we can't rule out. Paranormal activity has played a major role in my life and I realise some people simply disreguard this phenomena altogether, but it simply can't be ruled out. My belief with the Yowie that it's a bit of both but as you and I know we need the evedence to support any theory so, stay tuned I'm onto it with a few surprises already.
Thanks Tracker74
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:36 am
by adventurer
Hi, there is very little physical evidence because they do not live here. Im not sure how they get here, maybe through dimensions. They "Visit here" which is why they do get sighted occasionally. There brown colour does camouflage anyway. There are countless reports now of strange happenings.
Iv seen it for myself, a huge ghostly massive figure which just doesnt even exist here, anywhere. They dissapear,appear, tiny type lights that run across-up trees. If you feel you are being watched its because you are, thats why you cannot see them. Countless reports of them gliding above the ground.Rarely has anyone been hurt, and those who have have had weapons of some description on them. They are to be 100% paranormal that come here in body form and dissapear again. How does anyone try to explain being followed or touched by something that aint there "physically". i am in the midst of trying to purchase a paranormal only camcorder, this i hope will try prove my point. Thanks matey. Dee
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:04 am
by Tracker74
That's an interesting concept Dee. I myself am investigating the paranormal side of things. It's hard to link something that could possibly be inter-dimensional or possibly 'ghost' like to accounts of livestock being killed and rock throwing. I mean something with these sorts of capabilities one has to ask why would they bother with such primitive activities.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by Bluedog
Paranormal, beyond normal experience or scientific explanations. That is a great explanation of the hairy man phenomenon wherever its is encountered in the world.
Yes it seems these creatures are just not normal in the flesh and blood sense.
If they are inter dimensional when they are "here" it seems they are here in a true physical body. Leaving footprints, hand prints, possibly hair and scat. Many encounters mention them carrying wallabies, chickens and stealing fruit.
Reports of multiple yowies in the same encounter sometime what are perceived to be juveniles seem to indicate possible family groups.
Then it all gets a little crazy, cloaking, glamor, levitation and mind speak. Reading between the lines of Dee's post it seems she has experienced what she was describing in her post. Also a comment by Rusty in a previous thread about how sure ain't no monkey we are looking for, really blows it wide open.
The only people who have any idea of what is really going on are the aboriginal Australians, who may have been encountering and interacting with these creatures for 60,000 years.
Them and other indigenous cultures from around the world all seem to say the same thing. It's a spiritual being who doesn't have to follow the rules of our earthly realm.
So many questions with no answers!
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:59 pm
by Tracker74
Yep Bluedog your right. I guess that’s why a lot of us are committed to getting out there and finding the evidence.

Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:45 pm
by Tim*
I bounce back and forth between:
1) They don’t exist. The whole phenomenon is the perfect storm of human psychology, mythology and cultural influence
2) Flesh and blood, hide and seek champions
3) paranormal and beyond our scope of understanding
Sometimes, all in the same day. Today, I’m feeling option 1
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:53 pm
by Bluedog
Tim* wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:45 pm
I bounce back and forth between:
1) They don’t exist. The whole phenomenon is the perfect storm of human psychology, mythology and cultural influence
2) Flesh and blood, hide and seek champions
3) paranormal and beyond our scope of understanding
Sometimes, all in the same day. Today, I’m feeling option 1

Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:23 pm
by Mad Academic
My 2c worth: they are absolutely normal creatures like humans. Just bigger and hairier.
All this talk about inter-dimensional this and levitational that...?
People seem all incredulous that we haven't got a photo of one posing like Arnold Schwartzenegger.
Get real! Get in a dinghy and go out to sea. Take a camera.
Come back after a month and tell me how many photos of Blue Whales you have (or any whale for that matter...)
We know Blue Whales exist...but there is a hell of a lot of water in between them.
Similar for bush apes and our scrub. Same for the Almasty and the Russian taiga.
Given the number of cars and trucks with dashcams I feel it is only a matter of when, not "if" we will get a photo or video of one.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:57 pm
by sensesonfire
adventurer wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:36 am
Hi, there is very little physical evidence because they do not live here. Im not sure how they get here, maybe through dimensions. They "Visit here" which is why they do get sighted occasionally. There brown colour does camouflage anyway. There are countless reports now of strange happenings.
Iv seen it for myself, a huge ghostly massive figure which just doesnt even exist here, anywhere. They dissapear,appear, tiny type lights that run across-up trees. If you feel you are being watched its because you are, thats why you cannot see them. Countless reports of them gliding above the ground.Rarely has anyone been hurt, and those who have have had weapons of some description on them. They are to be 100% paranormal that come here in body form and dissapear again. How does anyone try to explain being followed or touched by something that aint there "physically". i am in the midst of trying to purchase a paranormal only camcorder, this i hope will try prove my point. Thanks matey. Dee
Great observations adventurer your observations coincide a lot with themanfromglad's who unfortunately we don' here from of late. If only the scientific adherents had as much evidence with their approach as you do with the paranormal then they may have something to present instead of a blank sheet as usual. Remember science never solves a problem without creating ten more maybe that's what stifles their progress. Always interested in your views keep them coming.

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Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:20 pm
by Tim*
Another thing I find puzzling and perplexing in this field is how anyone can take an authoritative stance on what the phenomenon is.
At this stage, with the lack of conclusive evidence, anything and everything is on the table.
I see folks pushing and defending belief systems, at which point the whole thing starts looking a lot like a religion. Is that what this mess has become, a religion? I think for many, it has. Same goes for the UFO and paranormal fields.
To UFO guys everythings UFO
To paranormal guys, everythings paranormal
To bigfoot guys, it’s bigfoot
To religious guys the experienced is based in religion.
I think at this stage all we can do is continue gathering evidence and keep an open mind. I like to use the analogy of this being a 1000 piece puzzle, of which we have 10 pieces.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:21 pm
by Austral
adventurer wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:36 am
Hi, there is very little physical evidence because they do not live here. Im not sure how they get here, maybe through dimensions. They "Visit here" which is why they do get sighted occasionally. There brown colour does camouflage anyway. There are countless reports now of strange happenings.
Iv seen it for myself, a huge ghostly massive figure which just doesnt even exist here, anywhere. They dissapear,appear, tiny type lights that run across-up trees. If you feel you are being watched its because you are, thats why you cannot see them. Countless reports of them gliding above the ground.Rarely has anyone been hurt, and those who have have had weapons of some description on them. They are to be 100% paranormal that come here in body form and dissapear again. How does anyone try to explain being followed or touched by something that aint there "physically". i am in the midst of trying to purchase a paranormal only camcorder, this i hope will try prove my point. Thanks matey. Dee
Hi Dee, i was always for the flesh and blood but the video you made and spoke of the that ghostly mist figure crossing your path is always in my mind.
Didn't you have a photo or footage you were getting analysed ?
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:25 am
by adventurer
Hi Austral, yes the photo is being placed in a movie coming out very soon. I will be keeping you updated on it. It has now been copyrighted thanks to rays help. I know a lot of forum members will read this with there eyebrows raised but the ghostly figure was no joke--if only others saw it then they would go paranormal side to. Fact is i as a paranormal person needs to show footage to prove my point, as do flesh and blood people need to get there footage. I finally feel calm and at ease knowing my new direction i am going in with only paranormal equipment now rather then normal ir cams.Thankyou.
Tim--there is lack of evidence because people arnt opening there eyes. You are correct, we all need to keep a open mind. Believe people--they exist.
Sensesonfire--You, man from glad,many others and yes good ol WELLY. Without all of you putting in your views i dont think i could ever have come forward with mine. I am a persistent person and cant wait to see what happens now with all different equipment.
Mad academic---matter of time hey! How long do we have to wait. I thought that too a while back, someones got to get somethin right?---WRONG--you are in the wrong direction, thats why . Look at rustys brilliant efforts over years. 360 degree cams and all, really, if he cant get that pic--who can!
Bluedog--quote If they are inter dimensional when they are "here" it seems they are here in a true physical body. you are spot on mate. The crazy talk of mind speaking, levitation, cloaking COULD be something maybe we ourselves just havnt experienced yet.
Tracker74-- I believe they stick to there primitive ways because its who they are, they still use there own instincts eg:killing livestock. The rock throwing is still a genius way (as they dont speak) to tell us "There here" or a warning sign ect...They have to hide, us humans are simply killers.Please let me know how you go with your equipment picking up abnomalties out in the bush.
Good luck to you all ( flesh and blood and paranormal) --great thread Bluedog
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:09 pm
by sensesonfire
I'm not saying this in a sarcastic manner but I believe all the scientific based field researchers have virtually been ''hung out to dry'' by the complete denial of these creatures existence. The branches of science such as Anatomy, Anthropology, Biology, Palaeontology, Physics all hold the view that Yowie/Bigfoot/Dogman does not exist. So the chances of a scientific breakthrough are remote, to say the least.
Only leaves one alternative the paranormal aspect of which we have far more persuasive reports by credible people who have been witness to the phenomena.
When A Yowie or more particularly Bigfoot makes an appearance in the bush a feeling of foreboding descends upon not only humans but also animals, birds and insects an apprehension that you have entered a dead zone. A complete stillness not only of the wildlife but also the wind has been reported to have calmed.
Now I ask you what flesh and blood/physical creature alone has the ability to control the elements? none I imagine.
I think you will be far more rewarded with the paranormal endeavour than you will with the scientific.

Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:12 pm
by sensesonfire
Bluedog wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:47 am
OK, I've been fascinated by this for near on 40 years, but the more I read, listen, look, I'm no closer to an answer.
Why after over near on 250 years of colonisation, we have no concrete proof of existence that the scientific world would acknowledge?
The same can be said wherever in the world these creatures are encountered, be them yowie, yeren, sasquatch, almasty, orang pendek.
I am a believer, there is enough evidence on this site alone to make most open minded people to consider, OK there is something going on.
Surely with the technology available today if these creatures exist we would have the proof.
So I would like to throw it out there. If they are flesh and blood (jury is still out there) how have they eluded us for so long?
There are people on this site that have spend alot of $$$ and time in the field looking for answers!
Hats of to you for being so dedicated!!!
I'm interested in what you believe we are dealing with?
I appreciate that it's a work in progress for alot of field researchers, but would be very interested in your findings or believes so far.
Whatever if or what you choose to share, opinions, beliefs, speculations.
Anything feedback is greatly appreciated.
Cheers from the Bluedog.
Hi Bluedog,
I've posted this on the Yowie Controversial segment but since you have posted the question
"If they are flesh and blood (jury is still out there) how have they eluded us for so long?'' I thought I would repeat it here.
I have always said that their DNA ( flesh and blood) is entirely different from the anatomical aspect of human DNA even animals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDL31aWBYY
This is a video that supports my theories regarding the blood of these cryptids tune in at 8:07 I know a lot of YouTube videos can be notoriously fake but I conclude this one to be somewhat legitimate.
n the latter days, the paranormal becomes normal.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:42 pm
by Bluedog
Thanks for posting that link sensesonfire. I have seen it before but I did have another listen, interesting!
For me the jury is still out, but I suppose I've gone from flesh and blood to sitting on the fence.
I hope we get some sort of evidence or irrefutable proof of existence before to long.
Whatever peoples opinion of Rex Gilroy, he is the father of cryptozoology in Australia, he deserves an answer before he passes on.
Cheers from the Bluedog.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:06 pm
by Rusty2
Senses , the only factual part of the above video is the 911 call , the rest is a fantasy .
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:37 pm
by sensesonfire
Rusty 2 you may be right but can you provide a little more detail.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:56 pm
by sensesonfire
I did suspect a strong element of suspicion after I had watched the video for a second time and they started naming army personnel but it was too late I had already posted it. What we need is an edit button.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:05 pm
by Tim*
sensesonfire wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:09 pm
I'm not saying this in a sarcastic manner but I believe all the scientific based field researchers have virtually been ''hung out to dry'' by the complete denial of these creatures existence. The branches of science such as Anatomy, Anthropology, Biology, Palaeontology, Physics all hold the view that Yowie/Bigfoot/Dogman does not exist. So the chances of a scientific breakthrough are remote, to say the least.
Only leaves one alternative the paranormal aspect of which we have far more persuasive reports by credible people who have been witness to the phenomena.
When A Yowie or more particularly Bigfoot makes an appearance in the bush a feeling of foreboding descends upon not only humans but also animals, birds and insects an apprehension that you have entered a dead zone. A complete stillness not only of the wildlife but also the wind has been reported to have calmed.
Now I ask you what flesh and blood/physical creature alone has the ability to control the elements? none I imagine.
I think you will be far more rewarded with the paranormal endeavour than you will with the scientific.
People.
I’ve experienced this personally where theres no chance of Yowies. All it takes is one animal in the ‘choir’ to stop because of you the predator and they all stop. Am i saying this doesn’t happen in the presence of a Yowie? No, but what’s more likely the birds stop singing because of our presence or the presence of a Yowie?
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:20 pm
by Rusty2
Here's the problems .
"Nearly 60% of Americans are taking prescription drugs" .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... 6c5c025595
"Over 44 million American adults have a mental health condition"
http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/issu ... th-america
Couple that with people who have no job or are bored and are willing to say anything for a quick buck and you have a recipe for widespread misinformation or story telling for views .
Pacwest Bigfoot admits to embellishing bigfoot stories and if he's doing it then god knows how many others are doing it for views .
https://squatchdetective.wordpress.com/ ... t-bigfoot/
I wouldn't believe a word anyone one on youtube said unless there was evidence to support them .The chances are extremely high that anyone posting anything fantastic on youtube without any evidence or links to verify there story are more than likely full of it for any number of reasons .
If there are any doubts ask yourself where's the evidence .
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Pacwest Bigfoot.jpg
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:51 pm
by Tim*
Tim* wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:05 pm
sensesonfire wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:09 pm
I'm not saying this in a sarcastic manner but I believe all the scientific based field researchers have virtually been ''hung out to dry'' by the complete denial of these creatures existence. The branches of science such as Anatomy, Anthropology, Biology, Palaeontology, Physics all hold the view that Yowie/Bigfoot/Dogman does not exist. So the chances of a scientific breakthrough are remote, to say the least.
Only leaves one alternative the paranormal aspect of which we have far more persuasive reports by credible people who have been witness to the phenomena.
When A Yowie or more particularly Bigfoot makes an appearance in the bush a feeling of foreboding descends upon not only humans but also animals, birds and insects an apprehension that you have entered a dead zone. A complete stillness not only of the wildlife but also the wind has been reported to have calmed.
Now I ask you what flesh and blood/physical creature alone has the ability to control the elements? none I imagine.
I think you will be far more rewarded with the paranormal endeavour than you will with the scientific.
People.
I’ve experienced this personally where theres no chance of Yowies. All it takes is one animal in the ‘choir’ to stop because of you the predator and they all stop. Am i saying this doesn’t happen in the presence of a Yowie? No, but what’s more likely the birds stop singing because of our presence or the presence of a Yowie?
Adding to my previous post.
I see people throwing the ‘wildlife silencing’ scenario out there as proof of Bigfoot a lot. Heres my take on it.
As humans who spend the majority of our time away from the natural environment, we tend to view ourselves as seperate or apart from nature. We forget that as soon as we step foot in the bush we’re part of that environment. We’re subject to the same laws as everything else in that system.
We also tend to ignore and are unfamiliar with our biological response to being in that natural environment. When animals detect the presence of a predator they stop vocalising . As part of the system, we in turn react to the silence. Could it be that just like the bird that became silent in response to the cicadas that stopped their chorus, our biological response is that sense of dread so often reported? Perhaps that is our biological response to a potential predator.
We have become part of the ‘alert chain’.
I can imagine if tens of thousands of years ago, I was in an environment full of potential predators, the sudden silencing of other wildlife would be pretty handy in alerting me of potential danger.
Just some late night ramblings....
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:28 pm
by Wolf
Although I don't discount a paranormal aspect I am firmly in the flesh and blood camp.
As anyone knows who has spent a lot of time in the bush, it is very easy to stay hidden if you have even a half-decent understanding of how humans perceive their surroundings. Try it yourself... next time you are on a popular bushwalking trail, step off the path a few metres and stay perfectly still. Hikers will walk right past you without even noticing you.
Add to that the bush knowledge that would come with countless generations of surviving without technology of any kind... a tough hide that allows you to be in all elements and wander in and out of creeks and rivers without having to stop to dry your 'protection' (boots and clothing)... a natural, perfectly designed ghillie suit... and an intelligence and cunning exceeding that of the only animal that is a threat (humans) and it is perfectly reasonable to suggest they can remain hidden from us... in fact, I would go so far to suggest we are lucky to know of them at all.
There is nothing 'supernatural' about an animal that is simply beyond our rather pathetic human awareness of our surroundings.
Especially an animal that perhaps possesses the tools of infrasound to confuse and disorient any human lucky enough to see them.
Remember Europeans used to consider the aboriginal abilities to disappear in the bush and track over 'untrackable' terrain as almost supernatural.

Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:47 am
by adventurer
I just wanted to say how awesome that everyone is staying civil on this subject. This makes it easier for me at least to really read your comments and try to get your understanding and views.
I just find the flesh and blood people dont come up with a reasonable explanation on other happenings. I want answers, i want people to prove me wrong, so i can understand, not just say "its pathetic human awareness."
Anyone, anything can hide in a bush being still BUT please explain in detail for me how:
* Something so large with heavy footsteps can run so fast past people in close proximity through thick bush in the dark without hitting trees and not be seen.
* How can a few people be happily walking along, then there body temp drops to freezing point for 20 seconds then immediately comes back to normal.
* How over 3 million trees, the ones that drop are on the same walking path as you ( coincidence again???) and nothing around it to be seen.
* With no wind how does one see only 1 large branch sway with no animal to be seen ( a bird doesnt have the weight)
* ( Dont laugh) How can one be touched with nothing there touching you.( not drunk,no drugs,no mental issues) yet lol.
* Flesh and blood can throw rocks but when 30 are getting hurled, you would assume if you can see rocks in the bush, you would see the thing throwing them.(
you cant stand dead still and hurl a rock).
* How can one hear heavy footsteps behind your back on a trail, turn around and nothing to be seen.
* How can 2 people see a ghostly massive figure gliding across a trail in front of you ( with no physical features).
I could go on and on. Either i am right or i along with 100's of others need to seek medical help that have never had mental issues.
My reasoning for you guys is you just havnt been through this yet.
I dont want to go on and on about this and upset people and eventually get kicked of the site, i am just looking for my own answers. Ta Dee
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:53 am
by Tim*
adventurer wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:47 am
I just wanted to say how awesome that everyone is staying civil on this subject. This makes it easier for me at least to really read your comments and try to get your understanding and views.
I just find the flesh and blood people dont come up with a reasonable explanation on other happenings. I want answers, i want people to prove me wrong, so i can understand, not just say "its pathetic human awareness."
Anyone, anything can hide in a bush being still BUT please explain in detail for me how:
* Something so large with heavy footsteps can run so fast past people in close proximity through thick bush in the dark without hitting trees and not be seen.
* How can a few people be happily walking along, then there body temp drops to freezing point for 20 seconds then immediately comes back to normal.
* How over 3 million trees, the ones that drop are on the same walking path as you ( coincidence again???) and nothing around it to be seen.
* With no wind how does one see only 1 large branch sway with no animal to be seen ( a bird doesnt have the weight)
* ( Dont laugh) How can one be touched with nothing there touching you.( not drunk,no drugs,no mental issues) yet lol.
* Flesh and blood can throw rocks but when 30 are getting hurled, you would assume if you can see rocks in the bush, you would see the thing throwing them.(
you cant stand dead still and hurl a rock).
* How can one hear heavy footsteps behind your back on a trail, turn around and nothing to be seen.
* How can 2 people see a ghostly massive figure gliding across a trail in front of you ( with no physical features).
I could go on and on. Either i am right or i along with 100's of others need to seek medical help that have never had mental issues.
My reasoning for you guys is you just havnt been through this yet.
I dont want to go on and on about this and upset people and eventually get kicked of the site, i am just looking for my own answers. Ta Dee
I wish I could offer you answers Dee but I’ve got no idea what happend to you. My only advice would be to work on getting comfortable with not knowing and don’t invest too much of your sanity in finding an answer.
As for mental illness, I offer you this. Don’t confuse a psycological based experience with mental illness. Having your brain interperet a situation in the bush as something paranormal doesn’t mean you’re unfit mentally.
Anamalous things seem to happen to people in the bush and nobody knows why. Humans have throughout history attempted to make sense of It as we see in folk lore and mythology. That was a different time though and I think people of the past were more given to interpreting things they didn’t understand as fantasy. We seem to attribute anomolous happenings to beings/entities that are consistent with the culture at the time. Had you experienced this 100s of years ago you may think it was faerie related.
Ps, I’m not familiar with your full story so some or all of the above may not pertain to you.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:46 pm
by sensesonfire
adventurer wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:47 am
I just wanted to say how awesome that everyone is staying civil on this subject. This makes it easier for me at least to really read your comments and try to get your understanding and views.
I just find the flesh and blood people dont come up with a reasonable explanation on other happenings. I want answers, i want people to prove me wrong, so i can understand, not just say "its pathetic human awareness."
Anyone, anything can hide in a bush being still BUT please explain in detail for me how:
* Something so large with heavy footsteps can run so fast past people in close proximity through thick bush in the dark without hitting trees and not be seen.
* How can a few people be happily walking along, then there body temp drops to freezing point for 20 seconds then immediately comes back to normal.
* How over 3 million trees, the ones that drop are on the same walking path as you ( coincidence again???) and nothing around it to be seen.
* With no wind how does one see only 1 large branch sway with no animal to be seen ( a bird doesnt have the weight)
* ( Dont laugh) How can one be touched with nothing there touching you.( not drunk,no drugs,no mental issues) yet lol.
* Flesh and blood can throw rocks but when 30 are getting hurled, you would assume if you can see rocks in the bush, you would see the thing throwing them.(
you cant stand dead still and hurl a rock).
* How can one hear heavy footsteps behind your back on a trail, turn around and nothing to be seen.
* How can 2 people see a ghostly massive figure gliding across a trail in front of you ( with no physical features).
I could go on and on. Either i am right or i along with 100's of others need to seek medical help that have never had mental issues.
My reasoning for you guys is you just havnt been through this yet.
I dont want to go on and on about this and upset people and eventually get kicked of the site, i am just looking for my own answers. Ta Dee
Adventurer you along with
Rusty2 are the only ones on this page who have had years of interaction with these creatures.
I have no doubt that you know what you are talking about in this field, unlike others (myself included) who are always seeking out the rationale explanation with a tad of scientific desperation thrown in. Yowie/Bigfoot doesn't seem to be reading from the same pragmatic, reality textbook as we humans.
I'm only going on what has been reported by others who have experienced a terrible feeling of dread that comes over them when a Yowie or Bigfoot enters the zone. They may not necessarily see or encounter the creature but they sense something isn't right. Yes, I agree that the birds and insects go quiet when an intruder enters their domain I have experienced this when I was a kid traipsing through the bush but it doesn't take long for things to get back to normal. This is not the case with Yowie/Bigfoot there is complete stillness including the cessation of a breeze or wind blowing apparently it's like being entrapped in a supernatural environment that you just want to escape from.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm
by adventurer
Hi Senses, absolutely right. There has been countless times i have gone out, get out of the car and hear birds,lizards running up trees, extra large gross toads in the dark scuffling in the leaves, roos bouncing around but most of all thousands of crickets, zichardas ( cant spell) or whatever there called lol being extremely noisy. This is when i get straight back in the car and leave.
The times i arrive and dont hear 1 animal and i can hear a pin drop is the time i go for the walks.99% of the time the hairees are out. Sometimes theres only 1, or up to 30 of them. Generally i guess numbers on the way to the creek, then IF im correct normally my numbers add up to the amount of rock stacks there are in the creek bed.
I have been out there only on a handful of occasions when you get that dread "Get out feeling". The feeling starts at the beginning of entering. Somehow that vibe is so strong i just leave.
Once i went out with Rick and Ron just before dark hit, we got that same bad vibe and this was the only time we pushed through it and kept walking in, only cause rick had guts, i lagged behind. The hairees got pissed, throwing palm leaves, Walking fast stomping, throwing large rocks. We still proceeded. Then it got nasty, the boulders came down at rick, and then thats when ron and i saw that white figure. We left but i couldnt imagine what would have happened if we continued. People have to listen to there warnings.
This dread feeling is felt worldwide by people.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:10 pm
by Bluedog
The only real evidence of existence of the Yowie is the eye witness accounts of encounters people in Australia have had with the creature.
I'm not talking about Satsquatch, YouTube and Satsquatch chronicles would have you believe all you have to do is go and sit in a camp ground wait patiently and you will have an encounter. Most of it is

alot of the people including the hosts presenting these videos or podcasts are pretty dodgy to say the least.
Of the eye witness accounts in Australia that I have read, either on this site or in Tony Healy and Paul Cropper excellent book "The Yowie, In Search of Australia's Bigfoot", 90% would point to a flesh and blood creature.
But I certainly can't argue with sensesonfire, he is right the scientific world based on the evidence is that these creatures can't and don't exist in Australia. It is getting increasingly hard to believe that with the technology available today we can't put this enigma to bed.
But something is going on, there are to many credible eye witnesses who have seen these creatures.
This seems to be all we have got eye witness accounts and some plaster casts, that's it!
Not alot, certainly not enough to make any real conclusions be it flesh and blood or paranormal.
So I will continue to keep an open mind and continue to hope that we do get the elusive evidence we need (a carcass of one of these creatures is what I believe it will take)
I appreciate everyones feedback.
Cheers Bluedog.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:02 pm
by Mad Academic
As a retired biologist (who happens to believe that a bush-ape not only survives, but reproduces, in Australia), I take exception to those who paint ALL biologists with the "can't exist" brush. All we are saying...all we have ever said is: "show us the evidence". That's it.
I agree with everyone that evidence (other than eyewitness reports; sincere though they may be) is hard to come by, but I believe it will come.
Re: Puzzled, perplexed and maybe a little lost?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:50 pm
by Tim*
Mad Academic wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:02 pm
As a retired biologist (who happens to believe that a bush-ape not only survives, but reproduces, in Australia), I take exception to those who paint ALL biologists with the "can't exist" brush. All we are saying...all we have ever said is: "show us the evidence". That's it.
I agree with everyone that evidence (other than eyewitness reports; sincere though they may be) is hard to come by, but I believe it will come.
Hi Mad, it’s interesting that you have a scientific background but also hold a belief that this creature exists. Do you base your belief on personal experience or the largely anecdotal evidence of others?
Genuine question btw, just an interesting dichotomy between science and belief