OK, what do you think a yowie is?

[Bluedog]

I'm interested in what you all think just what a yowie is?
I'm of the opinion that they are paranormal (as defined in a dictionary, beyond normal experience or scientific explanations.)
As opposed to supernatural (transededs the laws of nature)
Im still in the flesh and blood camp, (I certainly don't want to start a online argument , about flesh and blood vs supernatural)
Just interested in peoples genuine opinions on just what a yowie may be!
I don't believe it's an overgrown monkey we are speculating about!
Based on the evidence and audio reports presented on this site what do you reakon it is????

[adventurer]

Lloyd Pye " everything you know is wrong" was very interesting to watch. But hey your asking the million dollar question. I dont know, Ape x human with amazing powers????? Dee

[Titla]

Lloyd Pye " everything you know is wrong" was very interesting to watch. But hey your asking the million dollar question. I dont know, Ape x human with amazing powers????? Dee

How goes it Adventurer? Good call on Lloyd Pye, but how do we resolve the sasquatch-types being of the genus homo while not being known as prolilfic technology users?

[adventurer]

Lloyd Pye " everything you know is wrong" was very interesting to watch. But hey your asking the million dollar question. I dont know, Ape x human with amazing powers????? Dee

How goes it Adventurer? Good call on Lloyd Pye, but how do we resolve the sasquatch-types being of the genus homo while not being known as prolilfic technology users?

Hi, well i wish i could answer that? Obviously the hairees are not tech users, maybe they dont need to. Think i need help from "senses" lol.
All i know is they have been proven to me to be smarter,faster and way above us, spiritually and paranormal in some way. Dee

[sensesonfire]

No one knows what these creatures are we don't have a body and no skeletal remains ( I'm sure I know the answer why?) They appear out of nowhere and disappear just as fast as far as footprints, scats, hair samples all circumstantial evidence. We do know Yowie/Bigfoot has displayed some amazing abilities that we humans have no explanation for.
I believe they are physical but I won't debate the flesh and blood theory I've been over that many times I also conclude they are capable of
shapeshifting, transfiguration and transmutation.
I have my beliefs in what these cryptids are and it's going to take some definitive evidence for me to change my mind and don't even get me started on Dogman different again but I believe I have the answer to that as well.

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

I believe a remnant species of hominid belonging to an earlier time of earths history. perhaps they are simply an animal, perhaps they are remnants of past civilizations that once flourished here. hell, perhaps alien in nature!?

either way, i would personally go flesh n blood with deep connection to nature and therefore seeming paranotmal. but i k ow little and am open to informstion which may develop my opinion further

[gregvalentine]

I believe that only time will tell . . .

[ripperton]

No one knows what these creatures are.
abilities that we humans have no explanation for.

You can only speak for yourself here senses. Most of us have a well defined idea of what they are and what they can do.
Sure we dont have "scientific proof" to satisfy governments but we have other proof that will satisfy us.

perhaps alien in nature!?

Have to agree with you BCC.
I call them Terrestrial Aliens.

[AL Pitman]

I think they a survivors from a long ago time
And because as humans we are an ignorant bunch this has made it easier for them to remain popularly concealed for a very long time ...

[Mad Academic]

I think they a survivors from a long ago time
And because as humans we are an ignorant bunch this has made it easier for them to remain popularly concealed for a very long time ...

I tend to agree with AL in that I believe they are survivors from a long time ago.
I don't know that they have remained concealed because we humans are ignorant, rather than we have different habits, needs and biology.
Humans tend to live in communities, are active during the day and don't have infra-red vision.
It is generally accepted that bigfoot/yowies/sasquatch live in family groups (at most), are more active at night and have very good night vision (infra-red)...evidence of the latter is their ability to avoid IR motion-sensors and eye-witness reports of their eyes being "all-black"...in other words, large, light-gathering pupils.
I believe reports are growing in number simply because human populations are growing and encroaching on their "territory".
But they have been known since ancient times...just ask any Aborigine or Native American...

[sensesonfire]

I tend to listen to Native Americans and Australian indigenous folk because they have had a close association/interaction with these creatures since the 16th century although there doesn't seem to be any reported contact prior to the 1600s. I have no doubt Bigfoot communicated with these people and much knowledge was gained by the Native Americans.
They are increasing in numbers as they are able to procreate but they do not die they are virtually immortal or at least extremely old hence no skeletal remains.

Acknowledged by the majority of Native Americans: Native Americans/First Nations people almost all believe Bigfoot is a non-physical creature. Some Indian tribes mention that they have seen the creature transform into a wolf. Others think that these creatures live in another dimension from the physical plane but can come here as they desire. Some also believe Bigfoot has great psychic abilities, reports of sightings show the creature can be visible to some people, while at the same time remain invisible to others in the same group. There are many reports from non-Indians who saw the creature after a UFO sighting. And others that have searched for, and researched Bigfoot for years are coming to the conclusion that the creature is a spiritual being because he can appear or disappear at will.

I believe what the indigenous people know of these creatures and what religious texts say complement each other the white caucasian race theories are just supposition.

[Mad Academic]

I believe what the indigenous people know of these creatures and what religious texts say complement each other the white caucasian race theories are just supposition.

That's actually quite a racist statement right there...
I think you should just speak for yourself and not others.

[Titla]

While I don't fully agree with Senses here I'm not offended by the race comparison and I don't believe cultural or race comparisons relevant to the topic should be discouraged just on the principle that such comparisons are inherently offensive. The purpose of the statement was not to be offensive therefore I'm not offended, in fact I applaud Senses for putting his thoughts out there

[sensesonfire]

I believe what the indigenous people know of these creatures and what religious texts say complement each other the white caucasian race theories are just supposition.

That's actually quite a racist statement right there...
I think you should just speak for yourself and not others.

I'm no politically correct proponent I detest it. What I'm saying is these people have far greater experience with these creatures they have been dealing with them for centuries the white races are generally new to the whole concept. They know far more about them than we could ever hope for except for a few enlightened individuals like me who are far in advance of science.

[sensesonfire]

While I don't fully agree with Senses here I'm not offended by the race comparison and I don't believe cultural or race comparisons relevant to the topic should be discouraged just on the principle that such comparisons are inherently offensive. The purpose of the statement was not to be offensive therefore I'm not offended, in fact I applaud Senses for putting his thoughts out there

Hi Titla, thanks for the support.

[sensesonfire]

I believe that only time will tell . . .

True Greg, but as Dr Zeus said to Taylor in Planet Of The Apes ''Don't go looking for it Taylor you may not like what you find''.

[Titla]

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I'm no politically correct proponent I detest it. What I'm saying is these people have far greater experience with these creatures they have been dealing with them for centuries the white races are generally new to the whole concept. They know far more about them than we could ever hope for except for a few enlightened individuals like me who are far in advance of science.
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I'm also one of these few enlightened individuals that's far in advance of science Just kidding, being completely honest I'm bout as bright as a big bag of hammers.

I don't know if I strictly agree with every interpretation of native belief systems, although I see there's truth or reality within just about everything they believe. Mainstream modern society is way behind the curve on the hairy man topic and is silly to be ignoring native accounts and beliefs. Mainstream science has a great deal of catching up to do on a lot of things.

[Bluedog]

I have no idea what a yowie is!
But think about a tiger, probably the ultimate predator on the planet, they possess an amazing sense of smell and hearing, able to leap upto 30 feet, incredible strength for size(there are reports of tigers dragging 1000kg buffalo carcases several hundred metres) the ability to stalk to within metres of there prey. Run at speeds of upto 65kmph over a short distance and seemingly able to disappear into there surroundings at the blink of an eye! Combine infrasound with that and its almost supernatural!
Remind you of anything????
A 9 foot yowie or Bigfoot would be the absolute master of its domain, 500 times more capable than a human in the bush. Able to elude and avoid humans at will. (after thousands of years they would be well aware that we are bad news)
Its hard to imagine what abilities a alpha yowie would possess, think of what human athletes are cable of and times it by ten?
I believe they are flesh and blood, physical creatures who because of there incredible physical abilities and bush craft skills sometimes appear to be paranormal or supernatural, all just speculation on my part.
Oh well that's my 2 bobs worth cheers from the Bluedog.

[Titla]

I have no idea what a yowie is!
But think about a tiger, probably the ultimate predator on the planet, they possess an amazing sense of smell and hearing, able to leap upto 30 feet, incredible strength for size(there are reports of tigers dragging 1000kg buffalo carcases several hundred metres) the ability to stalk to within metres of there prey. Run at speeds of upto 65kmph over a short distance and seemingly able to disappear into there surroundings at the blink of an eye! Combine infrasound with that and its almost supernatural!
Remind you of anything????
A 9 foot yowie or Bigfoot would be the absolute master of its domain, 500 times more capable than a human in the bush. Able to elude and avoid humans at will. (after thousands of years they would be well aware that we are bad news)
Its hard to imagine what abilities a alpha yowie would possess, think of what human athletes are cable of and times it by ten?
I believe they are flesh and blood, physical creatures who because of there incredible physical abilities and bush craft skills sometimes appear to be paranormal or supernatural, all just speculation on my part.
Oh well that's my 2 bobs worth cheers from the Bluedog.

That was very good Bluedog. Even assuming they're all flesh and blood, there's nothing to compare, the combination of their natural attributes alone makes for a prodigious wild specimen.

Twice the strength of a gorilla, option to be upright making it easier to hide among the trees of the forest than equally-large horizontal four-legged animals...

Can run as fast as a big cat both bipedally and on all fours, agile as a cougar, 8 metre standing long jump, such incredible night vision their eyes shine and can see clearly in near zero light...

Zero technological reliance, can eat and get calories from just about any kind of Earthly diet, can thrive anywhere from the tropics to the arctic from the desert to tropical jungle from deepest wilderness to the outskirts of urban development...

Live coorperatively in troops, have opposable thumb, communicate in language and are so intelligent they're people not animal.

[Rusty2]

They are increasing in numbers
they are able to procreate
they do not die
they are virtually immortal
the creature can be visible to some people, while at the same time remain invisible to others in the same group.
the creature is a spiritual being
he can appear or disappear at will

Twice the strength of a gorilla
Can run as fast as a big cat
agile as a cougar
8 metre standing long jump
such incredible night vision
their eyes shine and can see clearly in near zero light
Live coorperatively in troops
have opposable thumb
communicate in language
they're people not animal.

Opinions are not facts .

OPINION
A view, judgment , or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter .

FACT
A fact is a statement that is consistent with REALITY or can be proven with EVIDENCE . A thing that is known to be true .

[Titla]

They are increasing in numbers
they are able to procreate
they do not die
they are virtually immortal
the creature can be visible to some people, while at the same time remain invisible to others in the same group.
the creature is a spiritual being
he can appear or disappear at will

Twice the strength of a gorilla
Can run as fast as a big cat
agile as a cougar
8 metre standing long jump
such incredible night vision
their eyes shine and can see clearly in near zero light
Live coorperatively in troops
have opposable thumb
communicate in language
they're people not animal.

Opinions are not facts .

OPINION
A view, judgment , or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter .

FACT
A fact is a statement that is consistent with REALITY or can be proven with EVIDENCE . A thing that is known to be true .

Rusty everyone has opinions, if you're triggered by them you better stick your head in sand.

[MrHead181]

Titla,Rusty would be the last person with his head in the sand. He is so right,we need facts.
I don't think there is any need for talk like this.
Tony.

[Titla]

Titla,Rusty would be the last person with his head in the sand. He is so right,we need facts.
I don't think there is any need for talk like this.
Tony.

You might want to try reading the thread title Tony, "what do you think a yowie is?" That's the que to state our opinions on what we "think" a yowie is. If there's no room on the forum for these kinds of thread questions then I don't know what to tell you.

I understand we might not always be stating solid agreed-upon facts, at worst they're statements of opinion. Everyone states opinions just like we've been doing, including Rusty. I know because I just looked at some of his past posts. There's no need for double-standards.

You'll have to forgive the forward talk Tony but this is the second forum police on this thread today trying to shut things down

[David]

What has happened here is the post should be in the conjecture forum.

[David]

What has happened here is the post should be in the conjecture forum.

Quite a few times, over nearly the past decade that I have been a member of this forum, that old paranormal/flesh and blood conversation has been discussed on this forum. It is one of the main reasons the conjecture forum was created.

[Titla]

What has happened here is the post should be in the conjecture forum.

We’re on the wrong part of the forum. Thanks for letting us know Austral, didn’t even need a dictionary quote to understand it.

[AL Pitman]

Yeah
C'mon all 3 of you airy fairies you have a place to play .
Don't be throwing stones over the fence into our yard Lol

[Titla]

[Rusty2]

you better stick your head in sand.

Look who's talking !

The question was , "what do you think a yowie is" , no one asked for your opinion about what you believe they can or cannot do .
Yet you carry on like you've won the Nobel prize and are giving a lecture to inform us of your vast knowledge of them yet you have no evidence to back up a single thing your saying .

This is NOT youtube and anyone spewing facts without evidence will be questioned .

Would you like a box of tissues ?

[sensesonfire]

They are increasing in numbers
they are able to procreate
they do not die
they are virtually immortal
the creature can be visible to some people, while at the same time remain invisible to others in the same group.
the creature is a spiritual being
he can appear or disappear at will

Twice the strength of a gorilla
Can run as fast as a big cat
agile as a cougar
8 metre standing long jump
such incredible night vision
their eyes shine and can see clearly in near zero light
Live coorperatively in troops
have opposable thumb
communicate in language
they're people not animal.

Opinions are not facts .

OPINION
A view, judgment , or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter .

FACT
A fact is a statement that is consistent with REALITY or can be proven with EVIDENCE . A thing that is known to be true .

Rusty2, don't you think it's time you broadened your outlook to take in the strong possibility that these creatures are way more than flesh and blood. Without being too pointed you've been out there for years with high tech photographic and video trying to get evidence of the Yowie all to no avail even having thoughts of giving it away.
True they are not facts but if we are going to stick to the scientific factual evidence we'll be here till the cows come home waiting. As I've said many times to people time to accept there are many things happening in this universe coinciding with end times that we just do not understand so restricting opinions to simple black or white answers are ridiculous. I agree that this topic should be on the AYR - Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter Discussion page. By the way, I would like to draw your attention and everyone else's to the airy-fairy section of the forum and my thread Evidence Pertaining to The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti. You do realise that out of the 4216 topics mine is the third most viewed which strongly suggests to me people are moving away from the flesh and blood theories towards a paranormal/supernatural persuasion. Possibly not by the die-hard flesh and blood advocates on this forum but by a worldwide audience particularly in the US where they are far more open to lateral thinking than good old Oz.