Part 2 of my Yowie Watagans video - found some more evidence

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

As a follow up to my previous post on the Yowie call recording, I just posted a part two where i actually came across more evidence. I need some experts eyes on here, as towards the end of the video I found some stick structures which I am curious about - I thought they were just sticks, but perhaps there's more to it? Im not sure, Yowie experts - have at it!!

https://youtu.be/vUnr63JSCsI

[David]

I've already commented on your video and gave it a thumbs up. I was enjoying your videos before you became "yowie aware", which is a term I first heard from an original member of this forum who had, literally, yowies visiting his blue mountains property for a decade. For tbe first couple of years he was not 'aware' of what what was in the valley of his bush "backyard". Prowler reports were made to the police.. in the end all the neighbors saw or knew, and probably accepted the reality.

Your recording is fascinating. The enhanced version moreso. For what it is worth I have camped for 40 years in dingo and wild dog infested areas of Namadgi and Brindabella National Parks and have spent many nights listening to them communicate between snow plains, ridges and valleys. It was always a consideration for sake of personal safety.. and I have never heard that noise. If I can make a suggestion.. possibly contact Gary Opit, who I am sure would like to hear your audio. If you can put the word expert to an Australian naturalist it would be him when it comes to animal noises. He is easily found on his facebook page and is always ready to help people in this field. If it's a dog he'll confirm it or not.

The sticks pushed into the ground are indeed fascinating but I am, like you, always using the "chances of that happening naturally" yardstick. I'm not one for seeing 'glyphs' in random twigs. But upright sticks pushed into the ground requires dexterity.. a wallaby can't do it. Would a random off trail hiker do it? I don't think so but hey.. people do strange things. I also think multiple sticks in a small area is of interest. How many random stick falls impale themselves in a group? Probably not many.

And what broke the arm off your stick figure? Good video mate.

Dave

[Dean Harrison]

Thanks, Dave.


DMH

[David]

Thanks, Dave.


DMH

Solo camping in the watagans mate. I'm impressed

[Dean Harrison]

Ha! I don’t think so either, Dave. Not from what people have sent us over the years.

No thanks.


DMH

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

I've already commented on your video and gave it a thumbs up. I was enjoying your videos before you became "yowie aware", which is a term I first heard from an original member of this forum who had, literally, yowies visiting his blue mountains property for a decade. For tbe first couple of years he was not 'aware' of what what was in the valley of his bush "backyard". Prowler reports were made to the police.. in the end all the neighbors saw or knew, and probably accepted the reality.

Your recording is fascinating. The enhanced version moreso. For what it is worth I have camped for 40 years in dingo and wild dog infested areas of Namadgi and Brindabella National Parks and have spent many nights listening to them communicate between snow plains, ridges and valleys. It was always a consideration for sake of personal safety.. and I have never heard that noise. If I can make a suggestion.. possibly contact Gary Opit, who I am sure would like to hear your audio. If you can put the word expert to an Australian naturalist it would be him when it comes to animal noises. He is easily found on his facebook page and is always ready to help people in this field. If it's a dog he'll confirm it or not.

The sticks pushed into the ground are indeed fascinating but I am, like you, always using the "chances of that happening naturally" yardstick. I'm not one for seeing 'glyphs' in random twigs. But upright sticks pushed into the ground requires dexterity.. a wallaby can't do it. Would a random off trail hiker do it? I don't think so but hey.. people do strange things. I also think multiple sticks in a small area is of interest. How many random stick falls impale themselves in a group? Probably not many.

And what broke the arm off your stick figure? Good video mate.

Dave

this is exactly why i post this stuff around - to get info like this. 40 years of listening to wild dogs n dingos and youve never heard this call. thats golden data. amd thanks for the tip on Gary Opit - i will contact him when i get a minute and report back on what he thinks.

my theory on the stick figure arm situation is a possum picked it up in its mouth, carried it long enough to taste it, took a quick bite which snapped the arm, then spat it out. either that or a yowie of course haha. but you could make many arguements as t9 what caused the stick figure changes.

thanks for sharing your knowledge mate

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

Ha! I don’t think so either, Dave. Not from what people have sent us over the years.

No thanks.


DMH

people like you saying this makes me second guess my 'bravery' / stupidity hahahah

[Dean Harrison]

I appreciate the videos. Thank you.

Over the years, we have received a lot of Reports and even footage from this location.

After being on the business end of a few of these, I would be apprehensive sleeping out there alone. It didn’t worry me for years, until..... (as most people say).



DMH

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

As ive said before, and im quite sure this is just naiveity on my part, but I feel as though there's no threat. And i know you'll laugh when you read that, and i appreciate why, but so many reports have mentioned feelings of doom and dread, but i have only ever felt entirely at home and welcome in Watagans. It feels like a second home. My logic goes that if they didnt want me there I wouldnt feel so at ease. Then again, maybe there are no Yowies near my location - maybe im reading into things, none of this evidence is relavant and thats why I feel so at ease?? Time will tell, but I sincerely hope that my good energy and positive intention helps me in this regard. Feel free to call me an idiot hahah

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

Secondly, Dean if you could give me a single piece of advice regarding camping in a Yowie hotspot alone, what would it be?

[Dean Harrison]

Be aware of dark patches among the trees. Be aware they pretend to be trees. They will hug a tree with both arms to blend in, hug a tree with one arm out like a branch or stand there with both arms out. More often than not, they will stand behind a tree with just the side of the head peering out. The head comes out, and back again. So, basically just be aware of dark patches in the bush.

Be aware they can see at night and they are aware that we are blind. They will be more bold at night than during the day.

They get away with a lot because they are shaped like a hominid. At a distance, most people wouldn’t look twice, mistaking them for a human. When walking through the bush, most people are looking at the ground and foot placement, not studying the dark patches or paying much attention to what is around them.
Don’t be scared to make plenty of noise at night. The will be curious and come for a look. They like a good vantage point to watch.

Unfortunately, without a FLIR you wouldn’t know they were there.

Never think of them as an animal. A lot of people make that mistake.



DMH

[GregP]

Just set up some night vision cameras, they won't come near you

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

Be aware of dark patches among the trees. Be aware they pretend to be trees. They will hug a tree with both arms to blend in, hug a tree with one arm out like a branch or stand there with both arms out. More often than not, they will stand behind a tree with just the side of the head peering out. The head comes out, and back again. So, basically just be aware of dark patches in the bush.

Be aware they can see at night and they are aware that we are blind. They will be more bold at night than during the day.

They get away with a lot because they are shaped like a hominid. At a distance, most people wouldn’t look twice, mistaking them for a human. When walking through the bush, most people are looking at the ground and foot placement, not studying the dark patches or paying much attention to what is around them.
Don’t be scared to make plenty of noise at night. The will be curious and come for a look. They like a good vantage point to watch.

Unfortunately, without a FLIR you wouldn’t know they were there.

Never think of them as an animal. A lot of people make that mistake.



DMH

fascinating Dean, thanks man. thats some interesting advice. i would assume i would be an interesting subject to study from their perspective - building shelters, visiting regularly, non threatening, campfire podcasts and music at night - if they are around i cant see why they wouldnt be interested.

You think if i noticed one it would be aware? and if so, would it likely freeze, run away, hide or charge? i get curious as to what tonexpect if i ever get the honour of seeing one in person. i suspect their behaviour would vary depending on circumstance

[aaq]

Be aware of dark patches among the trees. Be aware they pretend to be trees. They will hug a tree with both arms to blend in, hug a tree with one arm out like a branch or stand there with both arms out. More often than not, they will stand behind a tree with just the side of the head peering out. The head comes out, and back again. So, basically just be aware of dark patches in the bush.

Be aware they can see at night and they are aware that we are blind. They will be more bold at night than during the day.

They get away with a lot because they are shaped like a hominid. At a distance, most people wouldn’t look twice, mistaking them for a human. When walking through the bush, most people are looking at the ground and foot placement, not studying the dark patches or paying much attention to what is around them.
Don’t be scared to make plenty of noise at night. The will be curious and come for a look. They like a good vantage point to watch.

Unfortunately, without a FLIR you wouldn’t know they were there.

Never think of them as an animal. A lot of people make that mistake.



DMH

fascinating Dean, thanks man. thats some interesting advice. i would assume i would be an interesting subject to study from their perspective - building shelters, visiting regularly, non threatening, campfire podcasts and music at night - if they are around i cant see why they wouldnt be interested.

You think if i noticed one it would be aware? and if so, would it likely freeze, run away, hide or charge? i get curious as to what tonexpect if i ever get the honour of seeing one in person. i suspect their behaviour would vary depending on circumstance

Get yourself a recording Pulsar...

[BushcraftAndCampingA]

Be aware of dark patches among the trees. Be aware they pretend to be trees. They will hug a tree with both arms to blend in, hug a tree with one arm out like a branch or stand there with both arms out. More often than not, they will stand behind a tree with just the side of the head peering out. The head comes out, and back again. So, basically just be aware of dark patches in the bush.

Be aware they can see at night and they are aware that we are blind. They will be more bold at night than during the day.

They get away with a lot because they are shaped like a hominid. At a distance, most people wouldn’t look twice, mistaking them for a human. When walking through the bush, most people are looking at the ground and foot placement, not studying the dark patches or paying much attention to what is around them.
Don’t be scared to make plenty of noise at night. The will be curious and come for a look. They like a good vantage point to watch.

Unfortunately, without a FLIR you wouldn’t know they were there.

Never think of them as an animal. A lot of people make that mistake.



DMH

thanks for excellent advice man. the difficult part if all this is its would be exceptionally difficult to know with certainty if your seeing a patch of darkness, a tree or a yowie. i watch my videos alot when editing (obviously) and theres many times i think i captured something in the trees, only to realise it is a shadow. but good advice is good advice and i will certainly keep it in mind.

in regards to your last line' do you believe it would be possible , sooner or later, for a dialogue of sorts to open up between us and them? do you think theyre 'human' enough for this?

[Austral]

my theory on the stick figure arm situation is a possum picked it up in its mouth, carried it long enough to taste it, took a quick bite which snapped the arm, then spat it out. either that or a yowie of course haha. but you could make many arguements as t9 what caused the stick figure changes.
[/quote]

A possum wouldn’t have done that ! I know because I trapped possums for the first 12 or more years of my life and I know there behaviour. Before anyone says how bad that is, it was a different era . Possums would not bother snapping a twig in there mouth unless it was actual food. Like I said, I know possums as weird as that sounds.

[Dean Harrison]

As GregP pointed out, and is my advice to people who have issues with them around their house or while camping, set up Game Cameras around the perimeter. You're bound to have a quiet night. There's a reason passive IR repels them.


DMH

[aaq]

As GregP pointed out, and is my advice to people who have issues with them around their house or while camping, set up Game Cameras around the perimeter. You're bound to have a quiet night. There's a reason passive IR repels them.


DMH

Passive, or illuminated?

[Dean Harrison]

Hi aaq,

There is a big difference in behavior when using passive in any capacity. No different as installing sensor lights. They seem to avoid both, patterns seem to change and I can only assume why.

Perhaps it's better than nothing..... perhaps not.



DMH

[aaq]

As a follow up to my previous post on the Yowie call recording, I just posted a part two where i actually came across more evidence. I need some experts eyes on here, as towards the end of the video I found some stick structures which I am curious about - I thought they were just sticks, but perhaps there's more to it? Im not sure, Yowie experts - have at it!!

https://youtu.be/vUnr63JSCsI

Awesome video, loved it. Good luck on your next visits!